From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 21 Sep 1999 to 22 Sep 1999 (#1999-13) Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 2:02 AM There are 17 messages totalling 677 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. CORNELL IN SF!!(Part One: The Concert) 2. CORNELL IN SF!!(Part 2: The Ensuing Melee!) 3. (no subject) 4. Beacon Theatre show 5. Waking on this Euphoria Morning 6. CD stuff 7. DC review...well kind of (3) 8. CC session TONITE! 9. Chris acoustic session tonight 10. CC interview - read it now 11. EM 12. Chris Cornell in San Franciso 13. Boston OnSale date Announced 14. free 7" 15. my 2 cents To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:07:13 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: CORNELL IN SF!!(Part One: The Concert) Man oh man, what a night. I was 2 when John Lennon was killed. I was 6 when The Police went on permanent hiatus. I was 17 when our beloved SG broke up (at least I got to see them once.) But all of that sadness, all of that time in between DOTU and Euphoria Morning, all of my doubt about Chris as a performer, just dissappeared. The voice is real. You've seen the SNL "Pretty Noose" clip (worse, you've heard it) that Chris Cornell is missing in action. The man who showed up in SF tonight was quite literally on a Mission. I won't bore you with the setlist, it's the exact same as every other show. Observations: Leave Alain and Natasha alone. Simply put, if music was still meant to be played the way Soundgarden did, they would still be together. The kids from Eleven are doing exactly what they were supposed to do. Just because Alain can't do the solo in Like Suicide the same way as Kim doesn't mean he is supposed to mimic him. Even Alain is no Kim Thayil, what's your point? Kim is no Nigel Tufnel yet he managed to pull off Big Bottom. I remember the glib headline in Newsweek re: the breakup, "Maybe Somebody Got Happy." I'm guessing that's true, I'm guessing that someone was Chris. What a joy to watch a man who is loving every bit of a performance. I think that spirit is really what pushed his voice to the limits that have been heard on this tour. I really can't put much else into words right now, mostly because my neurons are completely frying on frappuccino and PowerBar, the only reasons I survived the long drive home. Let me leave you with this bit of personal reflection, especially you naysayers. My parents were divorced when I was barely one year old. As much as I wished that they had stayed together, I now realize that it's better they didn't. And yes, I struggled with the step-parents. But now there are loving relationships all over my life. So when he time for something has come, it's okay to struggle at first, but things will wok out. (Pardon my abstract tangents at the end, but I'm sure you understand what I'm getting at. Plus, remember the caffeine/carbo high I'm on right now.) Be Well, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:31:32 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: CORNELL IN SF!!(Part 2: The Ensuing Melee!) Anyways!!! After the show, I was able to hook up with two lovely lady SOMMSters. It was my pleasure meeting both Sgardengrl and moonsta693! I was able to fenagle (sp?) Greg Upchurch's set list (even though I had written down the set during the show.) That's when I decided to wait outside the exit to get the thinged signed by as many key players as possible. I'll spare the boring details of barricades, and the part where it dawned on Moonstar and I that we were in fact fellow SOMMSters. about an hour after the show, we saw our first target, Ric Markman. Really nice guy, (Aussie too) he signed the setlist that I had gotten (To Mat, he left out a "t", but hey, bass player right?) he also answered some bass questions for a lady in line. Once again nice cool guy. Then Jeff Ament comes out! He politely declined to sign autographs (saying he was "on hiatus" from doing that or something, oh well). I figured signing autographs for SG fans would be the least he could do after stealing our drummer!!!! (calm.....) After Jeff came another long wait. But after said wait, who should walk out but shredmaster Kirk Hammett himself! He was very nice about quickly scrawling his John Hancock on available posters, setlists, breasts etc. (not really breasts, but I had him sign my setlist for some reason.) There were very few of us waiting, at least fewer than you'd think. That's when Alain and Natasha came out. And I must say, these are two of the most gracious people ou would ever want to meet. Alain was very glad to sign his name on my setlist. Natasha even had me puff out my chest so she could use my rock hard pecs as a surface to autograph my setlist (note: author's pectorials are considered "rock hard" due to the fact that there is no tissue between skin and bone.) Then we saw Greg. Here's how it went (M= Me, G=Greg) M= Hey Greg, awesome job. I took this setlist from your kit, I hope by signing it, that it will be a show of your forgivness. G=Alright, I'll sign it on one condition, you hold my beer. Have a sip if you want. I'm underage and had a three hour drive ahead of me so I politely declined the chugging part, but I got the signature anyway. I started to realize a pattern in these musicians that Chris has chosen to surround himself with, they are the nicest people you will ever want to meet. So true was this, that Alain had to keep calling for Natasha to get on the bus because it was leaving. So she did, but not before the last moment of virtue from the keyboardist. Three of us: Natasha, we were wondering if perhaps you could please have Chris sign our (poster, setlist)? (You see Chris had already somehow snuck on the bus) Natasha: Three? (looks around) Alright, wait here. Moonstar, the third party, and I became litle children on Christmas. Moments later Santa (Chris' road manager) emerged from the bus with our sacred relics, now signed by the man himself. Plus all of his onderful warm musicians. Plus Kirk Hammett..... Oh what a night/morning. Screw class tomorrow, this boy's sleepin' in. Be Well, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:44:26 -0400 From: Heather Aston Subject: (no subject) >Deb >PS He and Alain were wearing matching trousers at the DC show - can you >imagine if he'd tried to get Kim to go for that!? :-))))) I'd forgotten until you mentioned it. He and *Natasha* were wearing the same pants at the NYC show. I wonder where they shop? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:52:08 -0400 From: Heather Aston Subject: Beacon Theatre show Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:12:22 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: 11/14 Beacon Theatre >I send this message on a somber note. the ticket info that nadezha (sorry if >the spelling's wrong) is incorrect. the tickets to the NYC show on nov. 14 >are already on sale, and judging by the shitty location of my seats, they >have been on sale for a while. Thanks for posting this. When I went to Ticketbastard's website at 10:15 Saturday, the "best available" was in the loge section. Seemed kind of strange-I know Chris is popular, but not that popular. I'm not going. I just went to the show at Town Hall. There, however I had a second row center seat. For that I'll gladly pay $30. But to sit all the way in the back? No thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:31:19 -0600 From: Fluttergirl Subject: Waking on this Euphoria Morning This is not a review, not really anyway. First a little talk of record stores. NONE (that I know of, at least) were open last night at midnight. I planned on grabbing my copies of Euphoria Morning and The Fragile and then just driving out into the west desert listening. Today I went to the closest record store to me (media play, argh) and they didn't have either yet. Fortunately I recieved my promo copy of EM today (which I had to retrieve from the post office, or I would have had it yesterday). So I've just finnished listening to EM in it's entirety -- sitting back in my chair with my eyes closed and the music loud. It was really strange -- I lost all sense of space. At one time my room felt bigger, as if the stereo were now several feet away from me. Another time, I felt like the room had shrunk and that I was towering over everything. Very interesting. Moonchild was the only song that I hadn't heard, but I also had not heard the ending to Steel Rain yet. And of course I'm expecting to be blown away because I love the rest of the song. So I guess I was let down. I don't like the ending at all. It seems like an inappropriate mood change to the song. Maybe after a while I'll get used to it, who knows -- first impressions aren't always lasting impressions. Fluttergirl (new and improved! more euphoria in every email!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:52:34 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: CD stuff Well, I just bought the CD (a wonderful punctuation mark to this 24 hour period!) I bought it from Tower so I got the CD-ROM thingy. All it is, is those same "CCTV" interview segments from the Official Site. Except of course we don't have to watch them in crappy RealVideo. Kinda cool, I guess. Hey it's free right? Be Well, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:55:19 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: Re: DC review...well kind of In a message dated 9/21/99 9:07:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mliacone@PROFESSIONALOUTLOOK.COM writes: << Natasha has a nice body, but other than that, shes a beast. >> What an awful and irrelevant thing to say about ANYONE, let alone one of the most congenial people I've ever met. Grow the fuck up. (Disclaimer: I did not write this just because she got Chris' signature for us, or because I'm trying to look good for all of the lady SOMMSters.) Be Well, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:06:52 -0500 From: Mike Liacone Subject: Re: DC review...well kind of whatever dude. i can say whatever i feel. unlike you i speak my mind (as twisted as it may be). i never said anything about her personality. besides, i didnt insult you, so what concern is it to you???? everyday i am cluttered with mail about how chris looks in this picture, or how great chris looks with a cat on his bed. i give my opinion on something similar, and it bothers you. get a life, dont let 'irrelevant' things that people say bother you. have a nice day. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Hammons To: Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 1:55 PM Subject: Re: DC review...well kind of > In a message dated 9/21/99 9:07:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > mliacone@PROFESSIONALOUTLOOK.COM writes: > > << Natasha has a nice body, but other than that, shes a beast. >> > > What an awful and irrelevant thing to say about ANYONE, let alone one of the > most congenial people I've ever met. Grow the fuck up. > > (Disclaimer: I did not write this just because she got Chris' signature for > us, or because I'm trying to look good for all of the lady SOMMSters.) > > Be Well, > Matt > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:38:32 EDT From: Paul Nicholson Subject: CC session TONITE! tonight on radio 1 (uk) chris is apparently doing a session or something...the show starts at 12:00, ends at 2, i'll be taping it. GET WITH IT! acme+ paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:39:04 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: Chris acoustic session tonight In case anyone missed my recent post, tonight the BBC Radio One Rockshow with Mary Anne Hobbs here in the UK is broadcasting Chris playing an acoustic session. Radio One now broadcasts over the internet @ www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/ The show is from midnight till 2am UK time so that's 7pm till 9pm for East Coasters. The rest of you can figure out your zones from there I'm sure. Other Chris news - a friend emailed the Lisner in Chicago to be told that Chris' show there on Nov 12th has been cancelled and probably won't be rescheduled! Dunno what that's all about. Maybe he is switching venues. PLUS You can sing in French all you want Chris, but HMV here in London have not only lumped Euphoria Morning in with Soundgarden CDs, they have moved Soundgarden from Rock and Pop to the Metal ghetto! Deb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:23:06 -0600 From: The Opon Family Subject: Re: CC interview - read it now dream sister wrote: > Someone from the newsgroup posted this, and I thought I'd pass it on. > > http://allmusic.com/zine/ccornell_set.html > > It's one of the longest and most in-depth interviews I've read so far. Thanks so much for this info. This is definitely the longest, most indepth interview I have ever seen on Chris or Soundgarden. A positive "must read"! Kathie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:17:20 -0700 From: mywave Subject: EM I'm speechless to say the least-well not really speechless but you know what I mean. It is the most bueatiful thing I have ever heard-Preaching the End Of The World is phenomenal. Chris's voice has never sounded so beautiful and expressfull(is that a word, if not yall know what I mean) It does atimatically take you away from your surroundings. I was listening at work and I couldn't do my job because it forces you to close your eyes and relax and attempt to take it all in. AMAZING! With a recording being able to express so much what is it going to be like in concert. I cryed it was so moving. You might think I'm a wierd one but its true. It' a tear from the eye dreaming......Peace Love and SG and CC........... Thanks for reading my meaningless banter. I'm done ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:32:24 EDT From: Zenia Diokno Subject: Chris Cornell in San Franciso Hey everyone! I went to the Cornell show in SF last night and..... I still need to catch my breath. The Fillmore Theater is set up a little differently than some theaters. There's no back entrance or side alley or anything, so his bus was parked up front. We got in line 3 hours before doors were scheduled to open. It may sound a little anxious, but I saw CHRIS WALKING FROM THE BUS TO THE THEATRE!!! There were about 12 of us in line and he didn't even look up or wave! That really disappointed me- but I got over it. The show was very similar to all the other ones I've heard about. There was about a half a hour delay- which made some people, myself included, a little mad. The anxiety was just too much. By the time he came onstage, the audience was roaring. I won't tell you about the show cause it was almost exactly like all the other reviews. Same setlist and even some of the same comments (i.e. the first "Chris Cornell show" being back in 91 or 92 with Matt Cameron). He dedicated "When I'm Down" to Natasha and during one song- I forget which one- he was, like, singing to Natasha. They were staring at each other for half the song! I thought that was really weird. Nevertheless, he forgot to introduce her when he was introducing the rest of the band. He looked incredible! I think I may have left a puddle of drool. He was a little on the skinny side, but he still looked hot. He was wearing a sleeveless green shirt and those pants that he's always wearing now a days. The ones with the weird design sort of thing on the knees. And the "fly" of the pants were like the holes for shoelaces. In fact the string that was holding his pants together looked like shiny, silver shoelaces! I noticed Alain was wearing the same pants, but in regular denim. Chris' voice, of course, was spectaclar. I was completely awestruck. My only complaint was that, for a show that was supposed to be more about the vocals rather than intruments, they had the guitars turned up awfully loud. I couldn't distinguish one word for another during most songs. It still sounded amazing though. The crowd went wild during "Like Suicide". I personally thought it sounded good- although Alain messed up on a few of the notes. I left the show a very happy Chris Cornell fan. The man truly knows how to deliver a great show. I can't wait to see him in November in Sacramento. Plus, I took about 9 pics (the guard asked me to stop taking pics) and I can't wait to get them developed. Louder Than Love, Zenia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:12:13 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: Re: DC review...well kind of In a message dated 9/21/99 12:03:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mliacone@PROFESSIONALOUTLOOK.COM writes: << whatever dude. i can say whatever i feel. unlike you i speak my mind (as twisted as it may be). i never said anything about her personality. besides, i didnt insult you, so what concern is it to you???? everyday i am cluttered with mail about how chris looks in this picture, or how great chris looks with a cat on his bed. i give my opinion on something similar, and it bothers you. get a life, dont let 'irrelevant' things that people say bother you. have a nice day. >> Hmmm. I really hate to continue this, and I don't meant to accuse the above person specifically. My "grow the fuck up" line was a bit uncalled for, I apologize. But still, all of the problems that SOMMS has faced recently can be traced back to fundamental lack of respect. The fact is, I was insulted. I thought SOMMS was better than that. I know it is. I know in the age of Howard Stern and South Park it seems archaic to have respect for the feelings of others. But think about it, this list was founded on a respect. Respect for those guys who named their band after some pipe sculpture. Please don't misunderstand. I'm not asking everyone to be all politically correct. I see no need for all of the hyphenated euphemisms we've had shoved down our throats. But I am insulted when I hear terms in contexts specifically designed to demean somebody as a person. I call Puff Daddy a talentless hack, but I would never call him the "n" word. I don't like John Waters' movies, but I don't call him a demented faggot. Bringing us back to the original offendind word "beast." Not the colloquial Beast like in the X-Men, or the image of sexual fervor in hearing "you beast!" But "beast." A modified and augmented "ugly." Yes I am insulted, as anyone who believes that their is still some integrity left in SOMMS should be. As anyone with a respect for fellow people should be. There is a difference between "speaking your mind" and having something to say. Be Well (everyone), Matt P.S. I'll try and stop sending so much stuff to you guys. You're welcome. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:44:57 EDT From: Niki Freer Subject: Boston OnSale date Announced Internet Onsale: Saturday, Sep 25 1999 , 11:00AM from ticketmaster.com under a search for Chris Cornell. someone please give the guy a guitar. really, i mean it. the whole thing just sounds ODD to me. and forgive me... i'd always seen When I'm Down directed to his wife, Susan. -mindriot [building a reputation anymore that i'm not proud of, sorry guys...] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:44:32 -0700 From: Amber Subject: free 7" has anyone else looked at the official chris site and seen the free limited 7" offer? ok, what the hell is that? anyone have an idea? i'm nowhere near any of the cities it's being sold in so i'm shit out of luck.... amber ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 00:32:40 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: my 2 cents --part1_6854b6e0.2519b5e8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the American idea of free speech is good & everyone should say whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, even if we don't want to hear it, but................being pleasent helps. Robin ! > > In a message dated 9/21/99 4:14:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Nothng2Say@AOL. > COM writes: > > > << whatever dude. i can say whatever i feel. unlike you i speak my mind > > (as twisted as it may be). i never said anything about her > > personality. besides, i didnt insult you, so what concern is it to > > you???? everyday i am cluttered with mail about how chris looks in > > this picture, or how great chris looks with a cat on his bed. i give > > my opinion on something similar, and it bothers you. get a life, dont > > let 'irrelevant' things that people say bother you. have a nice day. >> > > > > > Hmmm. I really hate to continue this, and I don't meant to accuse the > above > > person specifically. My "grow the fuck up" line was a bit uncalled for, > I > > apologize. But still, all of the problems that SOMMS has faced recently > can > > be traced back to fundamental lack of respect. The fact is, I was > insulted. > > I thought SOMMS was better than that. I know it is. I know in the age > of > > Howard Stern and South Park it seems archaic to have respect for the > > feelings > > of others. But think about it, this list was founded on a respect. > Respect > > for those guys who named their band after some pipe sculpture. > > > > Please don't misunderstand. I'm not asking everyone to be all > politically > > correct. I see no need for all of the hyphenated euphemisms we've had > > shoved > > down our throats. > > > > But I am insulted when I hear terms in contexts specifically designed to > > demean somebody as a person. I call Puff Daddy a talentless hack, but I > > would never call him the "n" word. I don't like John Waters' movies, but > I > > don't call him a demented faggot. > > > > Bringing us back to the original offendind word "beast." Not the > > colloquial > > Beast like in the X-Men, or the image of sexual fervor in hearing "you > > beast!" But "beast." A modified and augmented "ugly." Yes I am insulted, > > > as > > anyone who believes that their is still some integrity left in SOMMS > should > > be. As anyone with a respect for fellow people should be. > > > > There is a difference between "speaking your mind" and having something > to > > say. > > > > Be Well (everyone), > > Matt > > > > P.S. I'll try and stop sending so much stuff to you guys. You're welcome. > > --part1_6854b6e0.2519b5e8_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: RobinWarr@cs.com From: RobinWarr@cs.com Full-name: Robin Warr Message-ID: <8431026e.2519b555@cs.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 00:30:13 EDT Subject: my 2 cents To: Nothng2Say@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 64 I think the American idea of free speech is good & everyone should say whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, even if we don't want to hear it, but................being pleasent helps. Robin ! In a message dated 9/21/99 4:14:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Nothng2Say@AOL.COM writes: > << whatever dude. i can say whatever i feel. unlike you i speak my mind > (as twisted as it may be). i never said anything about her > personality. besides, i didnt insult you, so what concern is it to > you???? everyday i am cluttered with mail about how chris looks in > this picture, or how great chris looks with a cat on his bed. i give > my opinion on something similar, and it bothers you. get a life, dont > let 'irrelevant' things that people say bother you. have a nice day. >> > > Hmmm. I really hate to continue this, and I don't meant to accuse the above > person specifically. My "grow the fuck up" line was a bit uncalled for, I > apologize. But still, all of the problems that SOMMS has faced recently can > be traced back to fundamental lack of respect. The fact is, I was insulted. > I thought SOMMS was better than that. I know it is. I know in the age of > Howard Stern and South Park it seems archaic to have respect for the > feelings > of others. But think about it, this list was founded on a respect. Respect > for those guys who named their band after some pipe sculpture. > > Please don't misunderstand. I'm not asking everyone to be all politically > correct. I see no need for all of the hyphenated euphemisms we've had > shoved > down our throats. > > But I am insulted when I hear terms in contexts specifically designed to > demean somebody as a person. I call Puff Daddy a talentless hack, but I > would never call him the "n" word. I don't like John Waters' movies, but I > don't call him a demented faggot. > > Bringing us back to the original offendind word "beast." Not the > colloquial > Beast like in the X-Men, or the image of sexual fervor in hearing "you > beast!" But "beast." A modified and augmented "ugly." Yes I am insulted, > as > anyone who believes that their is still some integrity left in SOMMS should > be. As anyone with a respect for fellow people should be. > > There is a difference between "speaking your mind" and having something to > say. > > Be Well (everyone), > Matt > > P.S. I'll try and stop sending so much stuff to you guys. You're welcome. --part1_6854b6e0.2519b5e8_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 21 Sep 1999 to 22 Sep 1999 (#1999-13) ***********************************************************