From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 9 Sep 1999 to 10 Sep 1999 (#1999-1) Date: Friday, September 10, 1999 6:37 AM There are 26 messages totalling 786 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Californication 2. Hey Diddle Diddle (2) 3. first show in Cambridge, MA 4. Voting for the video... 5. More album reviews (6) 6. is this the END?!? (8) 7. oh yeah, i forgot! 8. This isn't the end 9. since we're on the subject... 10. Another Mag Review 11. Fwd: is this the END?!? 12. Chris in Billboard 13. seattle supergroup again To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 06:16:38 PDT From: Monnica Lewis Subject: Re: Californication >From: tonerkin > > Hey Monnica, I'd go for this. When I come visit Mom and Dad I could >swing by and see you and we could invite cousins Chris and Suzie over for a >BBQ!!! I'll bring the banana puddin!!! You could always volunteer to "dog >sit"! That would make you an invaluable friend and neighbor!! > > toni Well, I'll doggie-sit their german shepard but the two little ones are on their own. I have an aversion to minature dogs; all that annoying yip yip barking- there are some things I just can put up with, even for Chris! ;-) Monnica ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:43:18 EDT From: A Lytt Subject: Hey Diddle Diddle < Subject: As for Chris, I thought he was around to write good songs, not be an iconic figure for girls to diddle themselves to...oh no, that's it, I'm wrong.>> Johnny, just cause Kim used that stupid nursery word doesn't mean you have to. Male and female fans jerk-off looking at Chris and other SG ex-members, and listening to their music. It's a natural thing to do. What's your friggin problem? Anne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:31:06 EDT From: Mike Stevenson Subject: Re: first show in Cambridge, MA In a message dated 09/07/1999 7:46:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kay@FAS.HARVARD.EDU writes: << The really weird thing is that this building has built-in seats and seats a max of 1166 people. >> I went to buy tickets the morning after the night it went on sale and they were already sold out. It made me pretty sad. Anyway, why would he pick such a small place to do it in? I'm sure he knew that more people would want to go. -Mike "If this isn't making sense, It doesn't make it lies" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:40:38 +0000 From: Babette Subject: Re: Hey Diddle Diddle I do not! ::::she said trying to keep a straight face AGAIN :::::: I've never 'diddled'. Drill myself to the headboard...now THAT I've done. Naturally. :P ~ CynicLgrrl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:10:13 -0600 From: Fluttergirl Subject: Voting for the video... Do we want to get "Can't Change Me" on Total Request Live? here's the link if you want to vote: http://www.mtv.com/mtv/tubescan/trl99_new/playmy/playmy.tin Fluttergirl (new and improved! more diddling in every email!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:12:12 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: More album reviews I now have new reviews from Rolling Stone, Kerrang, Rocksound and Metal Hammer on my fan page (too long and too numerous to post on here I think). So far it seems like the British press likes the album a whole lot more than the Americans do! www.rustycage.u-net.com/discography/reviews.htm Deb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:27:18 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: More album reviews Deborah Baker wrote: > So far it seems like the British press likes the album a whole lot more than > the Americans do! It's cause Americian press only likes what is popular at the time. they are afraid of change. That is why Rocket from the Crypt is big in Europe and tour there a lot, and they get the star treatment there. Here in America they don't sell as many albums cause as Petey X said once in an interview.... "The people in the US don't like us cause we scare em. we are to different from what they are used to and they don't know how to take us in." All i know is the US press and album reviewers SUCK. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:36:05 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: Re: More album reviews Generalize much? >> So far it seems like the British press likes the album a whole lot more than >> the Americans do! > > >It's cause Americian press only likes what is popular at the time. they >are afraid of change. That is why Rocket from the Crypt is big in Europe >and tour there a lot, and they get the star treatment there. Here in >America they don't sell as many albums cause as Petey X said once in an >interview.... "The people in the US don't like us cause we scare em. we >are to different from what they are used to and they don't know how to >take us in." All i know is the US press and album reviewers SUCK. > > >-- >-AS >mailto:asnod@home.com >http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ > >|---------------------------------------------------------------| >| "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | >| Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | >| Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | >| And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | >| | >| - Wesley Willis | >|---------------------------------------------------------------| > > --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:04:59 EDT From: Chad Misselhorn Subject: Re: More album reviews it's not about americans liking what's popular.. it's b/c the british have a long history of not rocking (except for the major exceptions of sabbath and zeppelin). europe is all into all that techno pop and softer stuff, radiohead-ish, beatles-ish stuff.. hence them liking cornells new stuff. he doesn't rock as hard anymore.. he's more (ugh) british. i can't wait for this damn album to come out. btw that little 'suddenly i know' vocal tidbit in CCM invades my brain every waking hour. and my god.. that MTV real video.. it's wonderful how metal chris used to be thrashing all that thick hair and no shirt.. jesus h. christ (pose) and as far as this 'eat something' crap goes.. i think it was the 'other' chris cornell web page that had a still of him in the water at the end of the video.. his arm looks pretty muscled to me. i can't believe i got caught up in that shallow crap. haiku fish tank look at all my fish do they know that i'm their god? i should feed them now chad 'master of irony' misselhorn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:12:29 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: More album reviews Chad Misselhorn wrote: > > it's not about americans liking what's popular.. > > it's b/c the british have a long history of not rocking (except for the major > exceptions of sabbath and zeppelin). europe is all into all that techno pop > and softer stuff, radiohead-ish, beatles-ish stuff.. Well that explains the reason of Rocket from the Crypt, who are far from techno pop or soft stuff, are big in Europe. Must be because the sound like radiohead. hahaha This was all in good fun. no flame intended. Just bringing the word or Rocket back to the list. haha -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:15:33 EDT From: Charlie Mccutcheon Subject: is this the END?!? hello music fans! i'd just like to announce that i've completed what may be my final solo album...for a while at least. if you don't own one of my homemade tapes already, or aren't interested in any small fries inspired by soundgarden and its various spin off groups, delete now. if you're still around, thanks a lot. my latest is entitled "chester moon- another first". it's 10 songs packed onto a 60 min tape for the shockingly cheap price of $5 US (plus postage for those other countries). i still have a few instros on it, but now the songs are primarily with vocals. as an added bonus, all the songs are mixed to be listennable, and masterred to pro volume. for more info (song titles, descriptions, my addy, other bits and bobs), please reply privately. thanks, charlie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:31:43 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: is this the END?!? I don't think the SOMMS list should be used for this sort of thing. What does everyone else think? >Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:15:33 EDT >From: Charlie Mccutcheon >Subject: is this the END?!? >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > >hello music fans! i'd just like to announce that i've completed what may be >my final solo album...for a while at least. if you don't own one of my >homemade tapes already, or aren't interested in any small fries inspired by >soundgarden and its various spin off groups, delete now. > >if you're still around, thanks a lot. my latest is entitled "chester moon- >another first". it's 10 songs packed onto a 60 min tape for the shockingly >cheap price of $5 US (plus postage for those other countries). i still have a >few instros on it, but now the songs are primarily with vocals. as an added >bonus, all the songs are mixed to be listennable, and masterred to pro >volume. for more info (song titles, descriptions, my addy, other bits and >bobs), please reply privately. > >thanks, >charlie > > --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:33:26 EDT From: Charlie Mccutcheon Subject: Re: is this the END?!? In a message dated 9/9/99 6:28:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, billh@EXIT118.COM writes: > I don't think the SOMMS list should be used for this sort of thing. What > does everyone else think? essentially, i'd agree. however, this is something i've done before. of course i also threw in some sg content before. and i personally would have no problem hearing about some other sommster's band. if i didn't think someone would be interested, i wouldn't have posted it. thanks charlie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:36:35 EDT From: Charlie Mccutcheon Subject: oh yeah, i forgot! i'll also accpt trades for bootlegs! charlie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:39:18 PDT From: Joe Franks Subject: Re: More album reviews It doesn't suprise me that the Americans didn't review it too highly. The same thing happened with Superunknown and Down on the Upside. I'm betting they felt like shit when they found out that the album they put as 3 stars turned out a #1 or #2 album. I'm sure this will be thrown right smack dab in there faces again. Mark my words. -Chris From: Deborah Baker Reply-To: Deborah Baker To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: More album reviews Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:12:12 +0100 I now have new reviews from Rolling Stone, Kerrang, Rocksound and Metal Hammer on my fan page (too long and too numerous to post on here I think). So far it seems like the British press likes the album a whole lot more than the Americans do! www.rustycage.u-net.com/discography/reviews.htm Deb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:39:30 EDT From: Tammy Read Subject: Re: is this the END?!? billh@EXIT118.COM writes: << I don't think the SOMMS list should be used for this sort of thing. What does everyone else think? >> It's not like it happens on a daily basis - so in my opinion, I don't see it as a big deal. It kinda goes back to that "In what ways has Soundgarden inspired you?" Well, it obviously inspired him to get off his bum and to make some music : ) -Tammy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:43:06 EDT From: James Connolly Subject: Re: is this the END?!? i think it's acceptable, but then i like small-time hardworking musicians (Porta 02 4 life!!!)..charlie rules! see ya jimmy jimmy: hey guess what! i'm the gen-x posterboy! nonbeliever: i don't believe you. how can one be the posterboy for a generation that he doesn't belong to? jimmy: well, let me SHOW you **EXISTS** believer(formerly nonbeliever): wow! you're absolutely right! the way you sit on your ass all day and play guitar and wear a Racer X baseball T makes me think gen-x all the way! ps i don't really know what generation x was supposedly like, but i've got this vague idea. i'm just being dumb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:11:39 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: This isn't the end I stand corrected. Charlie, my apologies, and best of luck with your music. --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:35:25 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: since we're on the subject... Since Charlie has been self-promoting (way to go Charlie!! whoo hoo!!), I think it's more than fair for me to announce that my old band, False Indigo, is now through, and I'm in a new band with 3 other guys. We're doing something I've never done before - covers! that's right, I'm going in reverse of the traditional path bands take. I'm going from an original to a cover. I just lost some of my creative edge, plus I wanted to pay tribute to some of my favorite songs. We have an awesome setlist, though we are yet to record. The list includes: Days of the New - Enemy Chris Cornell - Pillow of Your Bones Creed - What's This Life For?, Higher, Allusion, and Torn Weezer - Say It Ain't So and The World Has Turned and Left Me Here Dave Matthews - Crush Tonic - If You Could Only See Fuel - Shimmer and Sunburn Jimi Hendrix - Hey Joe Live - White, Discussion and Waterboy Mountain - Mississippi Queen Less Than Jake - Never Going Back To Jersey Sublime - Don't Push, Date Rape, Santeria, and Scarlet Begonias 311 - Beautiful Disaster and Feels So Good Like I said, we are yet to record, we might not ever record. I just wanted to do some shameless self-promotion. The new band is called Release. This new band is a far cry from my original band. I think there's a few on this list who have an FI tape (they can tell you that i'm the sheeyat on bass), one of whom I think is Charlie (whoo hoo Charlie!). My old band was Sublime meets RHCP. As funky as rich white boys can get! wow, i sound conceited. what was i talking about? may da funk be witchoo! --Mike-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:41:00 +1200 From: Adrian Humphrey Subject: Another Mag Review Hey everyone. I've just finished typing up a review/interview of EM/CC from Real Groove (a free, New Zealand music magazine) but it's kinda big (around 30K). If anyone has a problem with me sending it to the list then speak up now or I'll just post it. I don't want to get toasted for sending something too big so I thought I'd warn you now. I'll post it tomorrow if there are no objections. Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:04:18 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: Fwd: is this the END?!? --part1_2a8c8d31.2509a502_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I think Charlie kept it short & sweet so no harm no foul & no body had to > finsh reading it if they were truly uniterested. Every once in awhile people > will get oof track & that's ok with me as long as it isn't obnoxiously long > or the only thing being discussed for too long (3 or more posts) besides, > Chrlie being the avid "poster" that he is should be cut a little slack for a > happy announcement (that does relate to music at least!) for all the time he > puts into sharing his ideas with the list. Peace! > Robin ! --part1_2a8c8d31.2509a502_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: RobinWarr@cs.com From: RobinWarr@cs.com Full-name: Robin Warr Message-ID: <4850056d.2509a4cd@cs.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:03:25 EDT Subject: Re: is this the END?!? To: billh@EXIT118.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 64 I think Charlie kept it short & sweet so no harm no foul & no body had to finsh reading it if they were truly uniterested. Every once in awhile people will get oof track & that's ok with me as long as it isn't obnoxiously long or the only thing being discussed for too long (3 or more posts) besides, Chrlie being the avid "poster" that he is should be cut a little slack for a happy announcement (that does relate to music at least!) for all the time he puts into sharing his ideas with the list. Peace! Robin ! ------------- In a message dated 9/9/99 3:28:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, billh@EXIT118.COM writes: > I don't think the SOMMS list should be used for this sort of thing. What > does everyone else think? > > > >Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:15:33 EDT > >From: Charlie Mccutcheon > >Subject: is this the END?!? > >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > > >hello music fans! i'd just like to announce that i've completed what may be > >my final solo album...for a while at least. if you don't own one of my > >homemade tapes already, or aren't interested in any small fries inspired by > >soundgarden and its various spin off groups, delete now. > > > >if you're still around, thanks a lot. my latest is entitled "chester moon- > >another first". it's 10 songs packed onto a 60 min tape for the shockingly > >cheap price of $5 US (plus postage for those other countries). i still have > a > >few instros on it, but now the songs are primarily with vocals. as an added > >bonus, all the songs are mixed to be listennable, and masterred to pro > >volume. for more info (song titles, descriptions, my addy, other bits and > >bobs), please reply privately. > > > >thanks, > >charlie --part1_2a8c8d31.2509a502_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:11:31 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: Re: is this the END?!? that & I remeber getting a bunch of pissy emails when I made 2 posts outside of SG topics & everybody responded that it was wasting thier time (as miffed sounding as possible), but they'd oddly waste more of thier time to write me to say so......I guess its all good now, mellowed out a bit, which is fine by me! Robin ! ------------ In a message dated 9/9/99 5:06:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, RobinWarr@CS.COM writes: > > I think Charlie kept it short & sweet so no harm no foul & no body had to > > finsh reading it if they were truly uniterested. Every once in awhile > people > > will get oof track & that's ok with me as long as it isn't obnoxiously > long > > or the only thing being discussed for too long (3 or more posts) besides, > > Chrlie being the avid "poster" that he is should be cut a little slack for > a > > happy announcement (that does relate to music at least!) for all the time > he > > puts into sharing his ideas with the list. Peace! > > Robin ! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:14:42 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Re: is this the END?!? > >I don't think the SOMMS list should be used for this sort of thing. What >does everyone else think? I think you should shut the fuck up. That's what I think. Why are you even suggesting we not post messages promoting indie music. Fuck, is Charlie becomes the next Soundgarden, I'm gonna laugh in your face. Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:52:23 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Chris in Billboard Chris' Can't Change Me is #8 after rising 5 spots from #13 this week on the Modern Rock Top 40 Billboard charts. Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:10:34 EDT From: Chad Misselhorn Subject: seattle supergroup again regarding the seattle supergroup bit.. remember AIC's 'right turn'.. mark arm, layne stayley, jerry cantrell, and chris that is pretty F A N tastic as far as what seattle has to offer vocally now i gotta go find the mp3 while it's in my head no haiku tonite ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:10:49 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: Re: is this the END?!? >Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:14:42 PDT >From: Dave George-Cosh >Subject: Re: is this the END?!? >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >> >>I don't think the SOMMS list should be used for this sort of thing. What >>does everyone else think? > >I think you should shut the fuck up. That's what I think. Why are you even >suggesting we not post messages promoting indie music. Fuck, is Charlie >becomes the next Soundgarden, I'm gonna laugh in your face. > >Dave Well Dave, I'm sorry you felt the need to be so rude. I tried to present a polite question to the list and you respond like this. If you bother to read the rest of today's posts you might notice I apologized to Charlie and wished him well. Can't say the same for you, though. To paraphrase you, I think you should grow the fuck up. --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 9 Sep 1999 to 10 Sep 1999 (#1999-1) *********************************************************