From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 29 Aug 1999 to 30 Aug 1999 Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 2:05 AM There are 27 messages totalling 876 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. A little non-Chris to clean the pallet.. 2. LA shows (2) 3. Video tomorrow (2) 4. Making the Video WHEN?????? (6) 5. When I'm Down 6. Badmotorbassdrum (2) 7. Chris talks to XFM today! hear it on the net! 8. LA Shows 9. When I'm Down [was Re: cant change me single...] 10. S.F. Sommsters 11. info on the london show... 12. Concierto de Barcelona. 13. DOTU vinyl 14. everyone else is doing it, why can't I 15. Can't Change Me on Amazon.com 16. 17. I got my copy!! Hot damn! 18. Chris Cornell Tickets in L.A. 19. Wave Goodbye To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:31:08 PDT From: Arden SunGod Subject: A little non-Chris to clean the pallet.. Sommies! In amidst all this chris-news... I met Kim Thayil tonight! Lookin' healthy, happy, and same as ever if you interested :) and for those girls of the Kim persuasion.. he was holding himself pretty close to a very nice lady there :) So while he may not be a-hoppin' to get b-sides done.. he's takin' care of himself. :) -Arden ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:41:09 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: LA shows Has anyone had any luck getting hold of tickets for the LA shows? B/c a friend has just been told by ticketmaster - about 5 mins after the tickets for both LA shows supposedly went on sale - that they have all gone! But more tickets may be available at a later date as there is a strong demand. Now TM may have got this wrong - this tour has been plagued by confusion as far as ticket sales are concerned - but it looks like scalpers are going to make a mint from Chris' LA shows. Anyone wanting tickets for LA should maybe call ticketmaster and see if they get the same story. Deb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:53:56 +0200 From: "Huib, Mandy & Sanne Mulder" Subject: Video tomorrow This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BEF20C.CA8B2AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think MTV Europe will show us the video tomorrow. They've got a = different kind of programming. I think it's for the US only. I've mailed = them, but no answer yet. Does anyone know more???? Damn. So if we Europeans don't get to see it yet, we will get a full review of = you SOMMies who will?! Mandy. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BEF20C.CA8B2AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't think MTV = Europe will show us=20 the video tomorrow. They've got a different kind of programming. I think = it's=20 for the US only. I've mailed them, but no answer yet. Does anyone know = more????=20 Damn.

So if we Europeans = don't get to see=20 it yet, we will get a full review of you SOMMies who will?!

Mandy.

------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BEF20C.CA8B2AC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 02:08:39 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: LA shows Deborah Baker wrote: > > Has anyone had any luck getting hold of tickets for the LA shows? > > B/c a friend has just been told by ticketmaster - about 5 mins after the > tickets > for both LA shows supposedly went on sale - that they have all gone! But > more tickets may be available at a later date as there is a strong demand. > Now TM may have got this wrong - this tour has been plagued by confusion > as far as ticket sales are concerned - but it looks like scalpers are going > to > make a mint from Chris' LA shows. > > Anyone wanting tickets for LA should maybe call ticketmaster and see if they > get the same story. > > Deb Both shows are in fact SOLD OUT!!!! HOWEVER, for people who ordered over the phone with credit cards, some might get declined so their tickets will go back on sale. My bro and i got row DD of the first show and we got ours right at 12 noon. the gey right behind us, the only other person there to get Cornell Tickets, got row JJ of the second show. the lady who sold em to us even went through and checked to see if there were any other better seats for us and they were all gone. She had never heard of Chris and thought that the venue, Henry Fonda Theater, started selling tickets at the door eairlyer in the day. But who knows. should be a great show. Can't wait. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:12:36 EDT From: Lance Huber Subject: Making the Video WHEN?????? Can someone out there gimme some help? We live in the forgotten time zone (Utah - the Mountain Zone). So does anyone know when Chris' Making the Video will be on in UTAH?????? I have to work late that night, so my wife has to record it for me & I need to know what time to tell her to push the button! Your help is greatly appreciated in out struggle against communism. Lance Huber Salt Lake City, Utah (The nation's new Tornado Alley) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:32:54 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: Video tomorrow Mandy wrote: >I don't think MTV Europe will show us the video tomorrow. They've got a different kind of programming. I think it's for the US only. >I've mailed them, but no answer yet. Does anyone know more???? Damn. I don't think so either :-( I just returned from HMV in Oxford Street ("Chris Cornell? Didn't he used to be in a band?) where I was told the UK release of the single has been pushed back from tomorrow until October 4th, presumably to coincide with the European tour. Deb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:45:02 -0400 From: Anne Beyeler Subject: When I'm Down This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEF213.EE0D44E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Koggle, in reference to the lyrics : I only love you when I'm down, I'm only near you when I'm gone...Keep in mind, you know I'm down all the time. In other words, he loves her all the time. I thought it = was really sweet, ever had to be away from someone you love for long=20 periods of time?? This song captures every nuance of that torture. It's not contradictory at all, it just takes being away to remind you of what you have. a. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEF213.EE0D44E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Koggle, = in reference=20 to the lyrics : I only love you when I'm down,

I'm only = near you when=20 I'm gone...Keep in mind, you know I'm down

all the = time. In other=20 words, he loves her all the time. I thought it was

really = sweet, ever had to=20 be away from someone you love for long

periods of = time?? This=20 song captures every nuance of that torture. It's

not = contradictory at all,=20 it just takes being away to remind you of what

you = have.

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEF213.EE0D44E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:46:27 EDT From: Nick Boos Subject: Badmotorbassdrum For all you weirdo's like me. Doesnt the bass drum on EM sound almost exactly like the one on Badmotorfinger? I guess Chris really liked this sound, because since he recorded on Pro-Tools, he could have made it sound like anything he wanted. Just a weird comment. -Nick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:44:18 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: Chris talks to XFM today! hear it on the net! Just got this message from dee jay Claire Sturgess at XFM 104.9.- a radio station in London. ***Hi Deborah Hope you're listening to Xfm this evening, (Sunday) because Ian Camfield is talking to Chris Cornell on the Rock Show from 10pm bye bye claire*** You can listen to XFM via their webpage http://xfm.co.uk . You need real audio. Click topleft on the page. London is 5 hours ahead of Eastern time. Deb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:12:29 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: Re: Badmotorbassdrum Well, I've read Cameron doubled lots of the drum tracks on BMF, and I'm sure Pro-Tools could do that sort of thing quite easily. >From: Nick Boos >Subject: Badmotorbassdrum >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > >For all you weirdo's like me. > >Doesnt the bass drum on EM sound almost exactly like the one on >Badmotorfinger? I guess Chris really liked this sound, because since he >recorded on Pro-Tools, he could have made it sound like anything he wanted. > >Just a weird comment. > >-Nick > > --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:35:04 -0600 From: Fluttergirl Subject: Re: Making the Video WHEN?????? I'm finally going to have to admit that I'm a utah sommie. I think "making of the video" airs 10:30 eastern time, so in the mountain time zone, it would be 8:30 pm. Fluttergirl (new and improved! more utah in every email!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:43:13 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: Making the Video WHEN?????? Fluttergirl wrote: > > I'm finally going to have to admit that I'm a utah sommie. I think "making > of the video" airs 10:30 eastern time, so in the mountain time zone, it > would be 8:30 pm. > > Fluttergirl > (new and improved! more utah in every email!) If i'm not mistaken, it's on at 10:30 no matter where you are in the US. They always have the Making of a Video specials on at the 10 Spot which don't start until 10, hence the name. So check you local listings to make sure what time it comes on. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:49:38 -0600 From: Fluttergirl Subject: Re: Making the Video WHEN?????? >If i'm not mistaken, it's on at 10:30 no matter where you are in the US. >They always have the Making of a Video specials on at the 10 Spot >which don't start until 10, hence the name. So check you local listings >to make sure what time it comes on. Actually, the 10 spot does start at eight here. I always watch Daria on Wednesdays, which would be on at 10:30 during the 10 spot, but it's on at 8:30 here. Fluttergirl (new and improved! more 8 spot in every email!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:50:24 EDT From: Star McVeigh Subject: Re: Making the Video WHEN?????? Well, I was watching mtv and it said that they will be showing house of style at 10:30 on monday. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:12:59 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: Re: Making the Video WHEN?????? >Reply-To: Deadgirrrl@AOL.COM >From: Star McVeigh >Subject: Re: Making the Video WHEN?????? >Well, I was watching mtv and it said that they will be showing house of style >at 10:30 on monday. > Where do you live? --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:56:47 PDT From: Jen Brittingham Subject: Re: LA Shows Hi I went to a Wherehouse in Arcadia to get tickets and no one was there.... When the tickets went on sale at noon, I was first in line and there was one girl behind me to get Chris Cornell Tix. Anyways, the guy who worked there told me that the first night would sell out quick because the first so many rows are taken up by radio stations(K-ROQ). Well, it sold out in like 2 mins. So I got two ticket for the second night (row K); which sold out in 5 mins. I have the feeling when the tour was planned, they didn't think so many people would want to go to the shows and that's why the venue changed from the El Rey (a much smaller club) to the Henry Fonda Theater.....I hope to see some of you there! Jen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:05:25 EDT From: Niki Freer Subject: When I'm Down [was Re: cant change me single...] Kogg the rockin aussie hockey gal writes: > When I'm Down.. i'm a bit sceptical of songs whose lyrics are openly > contradictory. I mean i haven't analysed it fully, but these lyrics make me > laugh.. "I'll only love you when i'm down, i'll only miss you when i'm > down.. one thing you should keep in mind, i'm down all the time" like uh > great. you're saying this why? mmm Kogg, you've heard me bash the life out of the lyrics ever since i first read them, but I'm particulary drawn to When I'm Down's lyrics. the tiny piece of the song i have heard so far [c/o CCTV] impressed me greatly. Thats the type of voice / song i suppose i was looking forward to. Not SG, Not "seasons," but Not some goofy drum-machines either. But the emotion, the kind of apologizing for seeming distant more often than not, the remorseful "oh no, she feels like i'm using her just for an ear when i need to talk." it's.. i understand these lyrics a lot, they hit home. ever have a friend accuse you of only being there when you needed something, or talking about certian things only for the sake of drawing compliments for yourself? this is what i feel this is like, but from a romantic relationship. Depressives hide inside till they need help most, and even though we love the people that we go to when we're lowest ALL the time, it might sometimes seem we only love them when we're really down. But, like he says, we're down all the time, we always love them. I love the lyrics, a lot. > But the sound/feel of it is almost like You call me a dog or Say hello to > heaven.. Again, the lyrics could be better. Very much it reminds me of 'Four Walled World' [no, i haven't heard the whole thing]. If you take most of cornell's lyrics out of the song, more often than not they look a little odd if not... completely wrong. As in the chorus to "times of trouble." i Love this song, Love the lyrics. But i love them much more when it's with the song, they look a bit hokey otherwise. I think Cornell's lyrics for these songs off of EM center around the vocal line, and the feel of the music, what they'll sound like with the song as the backdrop. Without the song, they lose a lot of oomph. Look at "Preaching." I think the lyrics to this are just.. ick. But, his voice carries them well, especially in the chorus "it's just the end of the wooooorld" is a favorite line of mine. I'm not big on this song, but the lyrics sound better along with the music. :) -mindriot the lyrical hound ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:17:56 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: S.F. Sommsters Sorry to use the list again, but I won't have a phone line at my new place until Wednesday and AOL doesn't have the address books on their server. Anyway, Norcal SOMMSters, I sincerely hope you scored tix because according to BASS the show is sold out (as we've seen at every other venue on the tour so far.) So anyone who GOT their tickets and still wants to do NorCalSOMMSfest, mail me and we will see if it is still a "thing." Be Well, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:41:24 +0100 From: alan ball Subject: info on the london show... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01BEF288.C50892A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recieved a letter on saturday morning from the ticket office, telling = me that the show is no longer seated, hence everyone will be = standing!!!! They asked me in the letter to confirm that it was ok. = Has everyone else had this info given to them yet? I think it will be = better standing anyway. (thought I'd just share) --Alan. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01BEF288.C50892A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I recieved a letter on saturday morning from = the ticket=20 office, telling me that the show is no longer seated, hence everyone = will be=20 standing!!!! They asked me in the letter to confirm that it was = ok. =20 Has everyone else had this info given to them yet? I think it will = be=20 better standing anyway. (thought I'd just share)

--Alan.

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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF293.A116E8A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:10:53 -0400 From: Graham Appleby Subject: Re: DOTU vinyl my dotu vinyl had the same sticker on it, saying limited edition etc, and it was only a scummy black vinyl. Graham ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:28:25 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: everyone else is doing it, why can't I In light of everyone reviewing the new album, I have chosen to do the same. And remember, MY OPINION IS THE ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS!! So there. Can't Change Me. Anyone who bashes this song has reason. It's a damn good song, but not quite what we were expecting for the first single. it just doesn't compare with the rest of the album. those complaining about trite or poor lyrics should just shut up. he's not shakespeare for god's sake. not every song is gonna be a lyrical masterpiece. there were soundgarden songs that were poorly written. get over it. it's good. 3 out of 5. Fluttergirl. This is the only song I'm disappointed with. Not because he speeded it up a bit, but because it just sounds weird. where the effects sound cool and original on other songs, they just sound stupid on this one. chris still does a good job singing, but the music is damn annoying. 2 of 5 Preaching the End of the World. AWESOME!!! Chris never ceases to amaze me. This is the way songs are meant to be made. Amazing vocals. Well written. Nothing else needs to be said. 5 of 5. Follow My Way. This song totally reminds me of Temple for whatever reason. So in other words, anything that sounds like Temple is awesome. Another great song. Great chorus. A good commentary on conformity in my opinion. 4 of 5. When I'm Down. Now this was interesting. This song proves my belief that Chris is the greatest singer ever. His range is unmatched and his pure talent is remarkable. This song proves that experimentation is a good thing. Mission. Indeed the most Soundgarden of the songs. Totally powerful. Another keeper. 4 of 5. Wave Goodbye. A fitting tribute to Jeff Buckley. In fact, this album reminds me of Buckley now that I think about it. And there's nothing wrong with that. Moonchild. Haven't heard it yet. Disappearing One. Anyone complaining about Matt not being noticealbe needs to get over it. It's true, but this is not a Soundgarden or a Matt Cameron album. It's another song of Chris's new style, so of course it's not gonna be an all-out assault on the set. 4 of 5. Pillow of Your Bones. The only thing that saves my respect for Eleven is this song. In my opinion, this song is what's gonna make the album move. by far the best song, preaching in second. if chris weren't trying to be experimental, he should've made the whole album like this song. I wouldn't mind a bit. 6 of 5. if that's possible. Steel Rain. a quality hard ballad. i don't really feel like analyzing this one. it's good as all of the songs are. not quite as great as the others. i don't really like the chorus though. 3 of 5. so that's my review. i give the album a 4.5 total. it's really everything i expected. not quite perfection, but damn close. got my tix to town hall. third row on the balcony. whoo hoo! i also got creed tickets. i love creed. the new song is awesome. i loved them at woodstock. they and live had the best performances. and those are the two albums i look forward to most this fall. next to chris of course. i hope they put on another great show. --Mike-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:47:09 -0600 From: Fluttergirl Subject: Can't Change Me on Amazon.com I apoligize in advance if this has already been posted (but I don't think it has). Can't Change Me is available for pre-order on amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000K3FP/o/qid=935976559/sr=8-1/002 -5859604-4683260 (Copy and paste might work better than clicking the link, it just depends on how it shows up in your mail progran. Anyhoo, I hope the link works. If not, you could always search "Chris Cornell" in the music section.) It lists it as an import (for those of us outside the UK, I guess) and it is $12.99. Is that a decent price? The single isn't available at CDnow, but is there anywhere else on the internet where one could buy it? Fluttergirl (new and improved! more pre-ordering in every email!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:05:33 +1200 From: Adrian Humphrey Subject: >The single isn't available at CDnow, but is there anywhere else on the >internet where one could buy it? It might be available at ubl.com, but don't quote me, I haven't checked. Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:30:49 -0500 From: Joe Corroney Subject: I got my copy!! Hot damn! Hello All- Went out to my car this afternoon to pay a visit to some fam and noticed something in a blue sleeve under my windsheild wiper once i got in my car. I reached out the window, grabbed it, opened the sleeve and found a recordable compact disc inside. Thinking this was very odd and not knowing what to expect, i slid the cd into my player in my car and expected some government agent voice to come on and give me a 'mission', then tell me the cd would self destruct in five seconds (cue the Mission Impossible music). Imagine my surprise when i heard the first few notes of CCM, then scanning thru the rest of the tracks finding the entire album, all 12 tracks, in completion. Someone anonymous scored me the Euphoria Morning album on a burnt cd. All my friends knew i was anticipating this cd and what a big Sg fan i'm am so i was pretty excited to say the least today. Actually i think my benefactor is an old friend of mine i used to work with at a job i was fired from a few years ago. He has a mutual friend who writes for a local music zine and scores promo copies of stuff all the time. This was especially cool after spending all night downloading about six of songs on mp3 from Kendrick's site (thanks Kendrick btw). And in case any record execs are reading this post and are on the list, I WILL buy the actual cd when it hits stores to support my favorite musician. So far i love the album and in many ways it's much better than i expected (and i did expect it to be at least awesome, so there ya go). Hopefully later in the week once i have some more time and have digested the album, i'll throw my cards into the hat and give a quick review of Euphoria Morning also. Jut a quick note, my fave songs so far are Disappearing One, Sweet Euphoria, and When I'm Down. Now if chris could just schedule a show abit closer somewhere in the Midwest to Ohio.. -Joe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:33:03 EDT From: Sarah Bucolic Subject: Chris Cornell Tickets in L.A. Hey. I went to buy my tickets for the two Chris Cornell shows on Saturday. I was the first person in line. After I was done getting my tickets, the tickets were sold out. Tickets were on sale at noon and then 3 minutes later they were sold out. I knew that the tickets were going to sell out quick but I didn't know that it would sell out in 3 minutes. I was the first person in line and I didn't even get the pit or front row. It kinda sucks but I'm glad I got tickets. I felt bad for the people in back of me. I'll be sure to write up a review of the concert. Is there a S.D. and L.A. SOMMSters meeting before the concert still going on? Please let me know. Take care and rock on fellow SG fans!!! Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:39:46 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: Wave Goodbye An important part of my review of the album was left out. It involves Wave Goodbye. ok... CAN YOU SAY CHILI PEPPERS?!?! this song is so blood sugar sex magik. it's awesome though. very funky. ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 29 Aug 1999 to 30 Aug 1999 ************************************************