From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 28 Aug 1999 to 29 Aug 1999 Date: Sunday, August 29, 1999 2:02 AM There are 5 messages totalling 532 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Chris, le chanteur 2. Can't Change me & Radio 3. christi mp3 4. can't change me single.. 5. Album Review (Yes, another one). To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:00:40 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: Chris, le chanteur Someone posted from Japan the other day that the Japanese version of EM has an extra track - Chris singing Can't Change Me in French. It appears the UK version has too! There's a copy on sale on ebay. I find the whole idea of Chris singing in French really weird. I wonder if he pulls it off? B/c French spoken/sung badly (by me for instance :-) sounds awful. Deb PS If it's about Susan - who studied Chinese at university - he should maybe have gone for Chinese :-) (now, Deb, you're just been silly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:17:14 +1000 From: Mansel Ismay Subject: Can't Change me & Radio This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BEF179.2BEAD660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I'm Australian, and for all the aussie fans, there is a single out here = (and everywhere). I just got it, it's not bad. I've heard Can't Change = Me alot more on the radio than I would thought - the morning guy played = it for like the past 2 weeks running at some point in his show. He = seemed to like it. =3D) -Mansel ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BEF179.2BEAD660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
I'm Australian, and for all the = aussie fans,=20 there is a single out here (and everywhere). I just got it, it's not = bad. I've=20 heard Can't Change Me alot more on the radio than I would thought - the = morning=20 guy played it for like the past 2 weeks running at some point in his = show. He=20 seemed to like it. =3D)
-Mansel
------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BEF179.2BEAD660-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:33:45 -0400 From: Kendrick Kay Subject: christi mp3 I stumbled across what i think is a completely different recording of the Reading Festival (8/27/95) performance than what's out there. _Much better_ quality. well, i encoded the one and only Christi performance from it. to get it: ftp to 140.247.174.249 login: sg password: sg or use ftp://sg:sg@140.247.174.249 in your web browser and check my list at http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~kay/sg.html if you want ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 02:28:15 GMT From: The Koggle Subject: can't change me single.. Okay i'm an idiot.. walk into HMV look under C in the singles section, find Can't Change Me single $9.95. Easy as that.. I didn't know about the Poncier cd either, so thank you to those who asked.. I would kill to hear Chris sing CCM in French.. What's it called? Ne Change-Moi Pas? eeheheheh Like Big Sugar's Le Scene.. (i'm still on the lookout.) >Funny how the album track of Fluttergirl appears as a B-Side. It sounds >like >a single in it's own right to me. It's not the album version. It's the one without the factory sounds (chugga chugga chhhh). I prefer the album version, personally. It is more final. The chorus ends on a final note. Musically, i'm sure this could be explained. this poncier version seems to go on and on really.. it gives it a totally different feel. When I'm Down.. i'm a bit sceptical of songs whose lyrics are openly contradictory. I mean i haven't analysed it fully, but these lyrics make me laugh.. "I'll only love you when i'm down, i'll only miss you when i'm down.. one thing you should keep in mind, i'm down all the time" like uh great. you're saying this why? But the sound/feel of it is almost like You call me a dog or Say hello to heaven.. Again, the lyrics could be better. The reason why some of you might be having problems with the ftp address is probably how your mail does the whole automatic hyperlink thing. Hotmail chopped it into two different links which obviously wouldn't work.. so double check that. Use CuteFTP or something.. a browser sucks for that kind of thing. Hey do you think the australian version of Euphoria Morning is going to have a yobbo version of CCM on the end? "My sheila's not gunna make me do nothin" or something like that.. a romantic and tension filled ballad of one woman's attempts to part an aussie bloke and his beer... heheh later guys Kogg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:32:05 +1000 From: Mansel Ismay Subject: Album Review (Yes, another one). This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEF233.A642C480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey SOMMster's, Dave and the like have had their input, so I'm gonna give another review = on Euphoria Morning. I've indicated it in the topic, so if you're sick = of the reviews, you can just delete the E-mail. =3D) Can't Change Me Well, we've all heard it. Not a bad song, but then not really a = fantastic song, and definately out of whack in the album. I like it, = it's alot better than whats out there, it has a nice blend, the drums = are Matt-like (Which in my books is a HUGE bonus!) and as in every song = on this album.. the bass plays a pretty vital role (As it usually does). = Perhaps an overuse of effects, but I get a feeling Chris might be using = a Vox amp, and I love Vox. As a whole, I'd give it 7 out of 10. Flutter Girl Initially I liked it, but my opinion of it has gone down a bit since. I = still like it, it's alot more decisive than the original, but then it = does have a very different feel to the original. It kinda makes me feel = like Chris is standing around with a bunch of mates talking down to this = girl and getting her real upset, but then in the chorus he takes her = aside and says "Look, I'm sorry, but this is the way I am".. (Even = though he probably wouldn't stand around with friends ridiculing = someone). it flows alot better than the original and the quirky funny = background factory sounds are really funky.=20 8 out of 10 Preaching the End of the World One thing Soundgarden could always do is really write a good, sad, = deppressing song. And I love those kind of songs, that kinda make you = wanna cry out of unhappiness, but also at extreme pleasure of listening = to the song at the same time. No resemblance to BUTOW in my opinion, = because it's alot more upbeat and optimistic, in this Chris seems to be = offering an answer, or looking on the bright side of a situation, = whereas BUTOW was just complete "hey this is fucked". I like this song, = Chris has done well. 8 out of 10. Follow My Way Not one to believe in absolute perfection, but this song is excellent. = This was the third song I heard and subsequent songs have been judged = compared to this for me, in my opinion the best song on the album (my = opinion remember). Chris' singing is reminiscent of his days with = Soundgarden, the bass is doing weird stuff that I can't follow but I = still love, and the guitar, well, at first I didn't realise that it's = actually lightly distorted. It's a thought provoking song, with alot of = soul and the musical aspect is some of the best writing I've seen Chris = do. 10 out of 10. When I'm Down Well, if you like All Night Thing and Call Me a Dog, you'll probably = like this one. The verse has the upbeat romantiscism of All Night Thing = and the more sombre, humble chorus is comparable to Call me a Dog. It's = like a jazz song, really. It's something I can see myself listening to = when I'm 60 or something.. it's a relaxed song, not my favourite on the = album, but I do like Chris' singing on it, and the writing and variety = of instruments shows Chris has a pretty good understanding of his key.=20 7 out of 10. Mission Sounds like a Soundgarden song to be honest, and it's not too bad. It's = dark, and brooding but its not slow, and doesn't plod along, it gets to = the point, the background singing in the chorus kinda sounds like Alice = in Chains. The only thing that seperates it from SG is I can't find the = trademark bend that SG always used to do. =3D) All in all, maybe the = heaviest song on the album. 8 out of 10. Wave GoodBye Excellent song. This is something that if Chris didn't write, Jeff would = have. =3D) It's very Buckley-ish but still retains Chris' originality. = Chris' vocals are very clear in this, more so than any other song. Chris = has honoured the memory of Jeff well. But I don't like his attempt at = singing like Jeff though, I personally don't think that's not his style. = Chris tends to wail or cry out when he's singing, and Jeff tends to have = a more "honey" like voice, it's very distinct. So is Chris'. 9 out of 10. MoonChild This is the only one I haven't heard. Can't wait. =3D) Sweet Euphoria This is a beautiful song, Chris' singing at it's most diverse on the = album. If his description of his work being "stripped vocals" then it's = none moreso than in this song, beautifully kept in key with the guitar. = This song in my opinion shows us that Chris has shown the world a new = thing about solo work, that it's not restricted to some guy like George = Michaels singing with a whole backup group and synthesized music with = words about some girl he wants to get into. Chris has shown is true = musicianship in a solo way with this song. 10 out of 10. Disappearing One Didn't like it as much as I thought I would, but it's definately a good = song. During the verse the humm of the bass along with Matt's drumming = creates an atmosphere comparable to that of nothingman by Pearl Jam, the = rapid and surpsisingly sudden change of chords and tempo could have = something to do with Matt's percussive influences, another good example = of Chris singing with his vocals "stripped". 8 out of 10. Pillow of Your Bones Well, when I first heard this I thought "Chris has got Travis Meeks on = guitar for this!". It sounds alot like something from Days of the New, = and if Soundgarden ever went unplugged I could see them playing this, = it's like what grunge is when transferred to acoustic, the chord = changing during the chorus is heavy and powerful, Chris' singing gets = more powerful as the music gets more picky. It's a good contrast and = blends beautifully. 9 out of 10. Steel Rain This is a song I can see myself listening to alot when I get the = album... It kinda reminds me of the Superunknown - BMF days, in Seattle, = because of the rain thing, and because the tone and atmosphere sounds = like the kind of harmony played with the countless shows about Kurt's = death. Overall, I've run out of words to describe it, so I'll just = settle with awesome. 9 out of 10. I know I haven't been as harsh as Dave and the others, but I honestly = believe the album is awesome, and that this is Chris' songwriting at a = stage that I think we'll all remember. I think most of you will like it, = and I believe the large portion of SG fans will dig it too. There's alot = of contrast, and I honestly believe these is still some SG influence in = this whole album, and that instead of escaping the grunge stereotype, = Chris takes his music onto a whole new level that we've never seen = before, this is solo work unlike whats out there, and I personally = believe this could still fit into the Rock/grunge category, but as a = branch of it. Overall Chris, an excellent piece of work. Keep it up and = you'll send me broke getting all your stuff!! =3DP Feel free to critiscize, try not to flame. -Mansel ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEF233.A642C480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey SOMMster's,
Dave and the like have had their = input, so I'm=20 gonna give another review on Euphoria Morning. I've indicated it in the = topic,=20 so if you're sick of the reviews, you can just delete the E-mail.=20 =3D)
 
Can't Change Me
Well, we've all heard it. Not a bad = song, but=20 then not really a fantastic song, and definately out of whack in the = album. I=20 like it, it's alot better than whats out there, it has a nice blend, the = drums=20 are Matt-like (Which in my books is a HUGE bonus!) and as in every song = on this=20 album.. the bass plays a pretty vital role (As it usually does). Perhaps = an=20 overuse of effects, but I get a feeling Chris might be using a Vox amp, = and I=20 love Vox.
As a whole, I'd give it 7 out of=20 10.
 
Flutter Girl
Initially I liked it, but my opinion = of it has=20 gone down a bit since. I still like it, it's alot more decisive than the = original, but then it does have a very different feel to the original. = It kinda=20 makes me feel like Chris is standing around with a bunch of mates = talking down=20 to this girl and getting her real upset, but then in the chorus he takes = her=20 aside and says "Look, I'm sorry, but this is the way I am".. = (Even=20 though he probably wouldn't stand around with friends ridiculing = someone). it=20 flows alot better than the original and the quirky funny background = factory=20 sounds are really funky.
8 out of 10
 
Preaching the End of the = World
One thing Soundgarden could always = do is really=20 write a good, sad, deppressing song. And I love those kind of songs, = that kinda=20 make you wanna cry out of unhappiness, but also at extreme pleasure of = listening=20 to the song at the same time. No resemblance to BUTOW in my = opinion, =20 because it's alot more upbeat and optimistic, in this Chris seems to be = offering=20 an answer, or looking on the bright side of a situation, whereas BUTOW = was just=20 complete "hey this is fucked". I like this song, Chris has = done=20 well.
8 out of 10.
 
Follow My Way
Not one to believe in absolute perfection, but this = song is=20 excellent. This was the third song I heard and subsequent songs have = been judged=20 compared to this for me, in my opinion the best song on the album (my = opinion=20 remember). Chris' singing is reminiscent of his days with Soundgarden, = the bass=20 is doing weird stuff that I can't follow but I still love, and the = guitar, well,=20 at first I didn't realise that it's actually lightly distorted. It's a = thought=20 provoking song, with alot of soul and the musical aspect is some of the = best=20 writing I've seen Chris do.
10 out of 10.
 
When I'm Down
Well, if you like All Night Thing and Call Me a Dog, = you'll=20 probably like this one. The verse has the upbeat romantiscism of All = Night Thing=20 and the more sombre, humble chorus is comparable to Call me a Dog. It's = like a=20 jazz song, really. It's something I can see myself listening to when I'm = 60 or=20 something.. it's a relaxed song, not my favourite on the album, but I do = like=20 Chris' singing on it, and the writing and variety of  instruments = shows=20 Chris has a pretty good understanding of his key.
7 out of 10.
 
Mission
Sounds like a = Soundgarden=20 song to be honest, and it's not too bad. It's dark, and brooding but its = not=20 slow, and doesn't plod along, it gets to the point, the background = singing in=20 the chorus kinda sounds like Alice in Chains. The only thing that = seperates it=20 from SG is I can't find the trademark bend that SG always used to do. = =3D) All in=20 all, maybe the heaviest song on the album.
8 out of 10.
 
Wave GoodBye
Excellent song. This is something = that if Chris=20 didn't write, Jeff would have. =3D) It's very Buckley-ish but still = retains Chris'=20 originality. Chris' vocals are very clear in this, more so than any = other song.=20 Chris has honoured the memory of Jeff well. But I don't like his attempt = at=20 singing like Jeff though, I personally don't think that's not his style. = Chris=20 tends to wail or cry out when he's singing, and Jeff tends to have a = more=20 "honey" like voice, it's very distinct. So is = Chris'.
9 out of 10.
 
MoonChild
This is the only one I haven't heard. Can't wait.=20 =3D)
 
Sweet Euphoria
This is a beautiful song, Chris' singing at it's = most diverse=20 on the album. If his description of his work being "stripped = vocals"=20 then it's none moreso than in this song, beautifully kept in key with = the=20 guitar. This song in my opinion shows us that Chris has shown the world = a new=20 thing about solo work, that it's not restricted to some guy like George = Michaels=20 singing with a whole backup group and synthesized music with words about = some=20 girl he wants to get into. Chris has shown is true musicianship in a = solo way=20 with this song.
10 out of 10.
 
Disappearing One
Didn't like it as much as I thought I would, but = it's=20 definately a good song. During the verse the humm of the bass along with = Matt's=20 drumming creates an atmosphere comparable to that of nothingman by Pearl = Jam,=20 the rapid and surpsisingly sudden change of chords and tempo could have=20 something to do with Matt's percussive influences, another good example = of Chris=20 singing with his vocals "stripped".
8 out of 10.
 
Pillow of Your Bones
Well, when I first heard this I thought "Chris = has got=20 Travis Meeks on guitar for this!". It sounds alot like something = from Days=20 of the New, and if Soundgarden ever went unplugged I could see them = playing=20 this, it's like what grunge is when transferred to acoustic, the chord = changing=20 during the chorus is heavy and powerful, Chris' singing gets more = powerful as=20 the music gets more picky. It's a good contrast and blends=20 beautifully.
9 out of 10.
 
Steel Rain
This is a song I can see myself listening to alot = when I get=20 the album... It kinda reminds me of the Superunknown - BMF days, in = Seattle,=20 because of the rain thing, and because the tone and atmosphere sounds = like the=20 kind of harmony played with the countless shows about Kurt's death. = Overall,=20 I've run out of words to describe it, so I'll just settle with=20 awesome.
9 out of 10.
 
 
I know I haven't been as harsh as Dave and the = others, but I=20 honestly believe the album is awesome, and that this is Chris' = songwriting at a=20 stage that I think we'll all remember. I think most of you will like it, = and I=20 believe the large portion of SG fans will dig it too. There's alot of = contrast,=20 and I honestly believe these is still some SG influence in this whole = album, and=20 that instead of escaping the grunge stereotype, Chris takes his music = onto a=20 whole new level that we've never seen before, this is solo work unlike = whats out=20 there, and I personally believe this could still fit into the = Rock/grunge=20 category, but as a branch of it. Overall Chris, an excellent piece of = work. Keep=20 it up and you'll send me broke getting all your stuff!! = =3DP
 
Feel free to critiscize, try not to = flame.
-Mansel
 
 
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