From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 27 Aug 1999 to 28 Aug 1999 Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 2:02 AM There are 18 messages totalling 544 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. New Pic on Site (2) 2. Chris's New Look (7) 3. what the dilly? (2) 4. 5. Rolling Stone 6. Euphoria = Low Sales 7. satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas 8. travel with your ears open. 9. Excellent New Thread (If I do say so myself) 10. EM at CDnow To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:10:10 EDT From: Chad Misselhorn Subject: Re: New Pic on Site i don't think he looks like a biker i think he looks goth anyways, isn't he into bikes anyways, so technically he is a biker haiku II she is seventeen and i am left to wonder she seems so clever ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:13:12 EDT From: Nick Boos Subject: Chris's New Look hey all Just wanted to comment on how we all are talking about Chris's new look. Personally I dont like it at all. The music is great, dont get me wrong. My favorite look on Chris was from the cover of Details a while ago....I need to get a picture of that because i want to emulate that look (send me a jpg if you can....all of em from the article would be awesome!). The new look i'm not so down with....just wondering what all of you thought about it. -Nick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:27:33 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: Re: Chris's New Look In a message dated 8/27/99 12:17:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, SubPop77@AOL.COM writes: << The new look i'm not so down with....just wondering what all of you thought about it. >> I agree to an extent, I mean ONE Dave Navarro is plenty. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:13:30 PDT From: Monnica Lewis Subject: Re: Chris's New Look I like this look better than that 'short hair sticking up all over his head look' he was sporting towards the end of SG. He kind of has a look now that says "I am an artist", y'know. Of course, I've never quite gotten over him shaving off his long curly locks... :-) Monnica >From: Nick Boos >Reply-To: SubPop77@AOL.COM >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Chris's New Look >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:13:12 EDT > >hey all > >Just wanted to comment on how we all are talking about Chris's new look. >Personally I dont like it at all. The music is great, dont get me wrong. > >My favorite look on Chris was from the cover of Details a while ago....I >need >to get a picture of that because i want to emulate that look (send me a jpg >if you can....all of em from the article would be awesome!). > >The new look i'm not so down with....just wondering what all of you thought >about it. > >-Nick > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:38:28 -0700 From: Amber Subject: Re: Chris's New Look i can't say that i like the look better, but it certainly suits the music that he's making. somehow i can't picture chris singing these beautiful delicate songs with spiky hair..that look was more rock...more aggressive rockstarish....now he's got the introspective goth look going on.... still enticingly yummy, just not as indie and rebelish...unfortunately...plus it seems like there's a lot more effort going into his image than before, which is obviously necessary for the solo road...doesn't mean i have to like it...and he seems to have gotten over his desire for complete personal privacy...i mean, christ, telling the public you're trying for a baby....none of that is as appealing as the chris as he was in the days of sg...but alas life goes on.... oh, and i totally miss the long hair too :) amber Monnica Lewis wrote: > I like this look better than that 'short hair sticking up all over his head > look' he was sporting towards the end of SG. He kind of has a look now that > says "I am an artist", y'know. Of course, I've never quite gotten over him > shaving off his long curly locks... > > :-) > > Monnica ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:15:37 EDT From: Igor Nepomnyashchiy Subject: what the dilly? there are two 15 song CDs being released iwth SNL performances... and... none of them have SG's performance!!!! WHAT THE DILLY????????????????? -Igor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:03:02 -0400 From: Kim Subject: Re: Chris's New Look On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Nick Boos wrote: > hey all > > Just wanted to comment on how we all are talking about Chris's new look. > Personally I dont like it at all. The music is great, dont get me wrong. Okay, I don't write to the group that often. I'm one of those hermits who only reads and rarely speaks. Now I'm gonna speak. I've become quite disillusioned with Chris over the past month. I have yet to hear anything from his new album, except for CCM. I don't like it. It reminds of Jeff Buckley. I like Jeff Buckley, but Chris ain't Jeff. Chris is fucking Chris. I want to hear Chris. I know his solo career is meant to go in a different direction from Soundgarden. Y'know, a stripped down, vocals-emphasized, acoustic-type sound. That's fine. However, when did he stop being Chris Cornell? He reminds a lot of Billy Corgan nowadays. The 'I'm-a-tortured-artist/poet-who-also-happens-to-be-a-pretty-boy' look. I'm assuming most of you read the Ray Gun interview. Not only were they fawning all over him, commenting on his 'delicate' features and so on, but Chris came off sounding like a flake. Maybe it's due to my new perception of him, and that influenced how his words came out. Who knows? I was excited beyond words when I heard he was going to do a mini-tour. That was about a month ago. Last week, when I couldn't get tickets, I really didn't care. I'll still buy EM the day it comes out, and I can't make a conclusion until I hear the album, but until then, consider me one disappointed mega-fan. -Elliott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:26:09 -0500 From: Mike Liacone Subject: Re: what the dilly? i hate to say it, but soundgarden's performances on SNL were sub-par ----- Original Message ----- From: Igor Nepomnyashchiy To: Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 12:15 PM Subject: what the dilly? > there are two 15 song CDs being released iwth SNL performances... and... none > of them have SG's performance!!!! WHAT THE DILLY????????????????? > -Igor > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:39:15 +0200 From: "Huib, Mandy & Sanne Mulder" Subject: Re: Chris's New Look I remember him saying once that they didn't want to change their clothing because he didn't want their fans to spend a lot of money on it (because we would copy it somehow). And I saw him a couple of months just before the split up (it was on MTV or something) and he wore a blazer (jacket) and underneath a very flashy shirt (blouse). It was quite different from the usual black t-shirts. So there was definitely a difference in Cornells clothing as a bandmember and private, not that it was a surprise. Anyway, the long hair was fine with me but I like the short hair better. In the end it doesn't really matter to me. Mandy. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Amber Aan: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Datum: vrijdag 27 augustus 1999 18:38 Onderwerp: Re: Chris's New Look >i can't say that i like the look better, but it certainly suits the music that >he's making. somehow i can't picture chris singing these beautiful delicate >songs with spiky hair..that look was more rock...more aggressive >rockstarish....now he's got the introspective goth look going on.... > >still enticingly yummy, just not as indie and rebelish...unfortunately...plus it >seems like there's a lot more effort going into his image than before, which is >obviously necessary for the solo road...doesn't mean i have to like it...and he >seems to have gotten over his desire for complete personal privacy...i mean, >christ, telling the public you're trying for a baby....none of that is as >appealing as the chris as he was in the days of sg...but alas life goes on.... > >oh, and i totally miss the long hair too :) > >amber > >Monnica Lewis wrote: > >> I like this look better than that 'short hair sticking up all over his head >> look' he was sporting towards the end of SG. He kind of has a look now that >> says "I am an artist", y'know. Of course, I've never quite gotten over him >> shaving off his long curly locks... >> >> :-) >> >> Monnica > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:54:45 -0700 From: johnny utah Subject: Hiro lost confidence in himself, Jason was shite. Too shite for Nirvana, too shite for Soundgarden. Even too shite for Mindfunk- and that's saying something! So he buggered off and joined the navy. Alex __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:56:12 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: Re: Chris's New Look I have never found Chris Cornell looking bad, long hair, short hair, shaven or mustache. He'd probably look good if he had a mowhawk! I'll have to go check out Raygun to see if it this stills is true. Robin ! ----------- In a message dated 8/27/99 11:36:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mulder.hms@GIRONET.NL writes: > Anyway, the long hair was fine with me but I like the short hair better. In > the end it doesn't really matter to me. > > Mandy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:37:06 +0200 From: "Huib, Mandy & Sanne Mulder" Subject: Re: Rolling Stone Foreshocks was a promo cd. I think it was for DJ's only. It contains: Jesus Christ Pose Spoonman Heretic Hands All Over Loud Love Come Together Black Hole Sun Fell on Black Days Outshined Superunknown Big Dumb Sex HIV Baby Mandy. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Joe Franks Aan: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Datum: donderdag 26 augustus 1999 10:02 Onderwerp: Rolling Stone >On the rolling stone web site they mention a Soundgarden Album called >foreshocks made in 1994. I never heard of it and I wonder if any of you >guys had and if ya had what songs are on it. > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:18:41 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Euphoria = Low Sales Don't expect Chris' album to be a big seller, unfortunately. Here's what I picked up at SonicNet. "Rage will be huge, but aside from Streisand and Jay-Z, there's nothing bigger out there for us than NIN," Krumholtz said. As an example of the demand he expects for The Fragile, Krumholtz said he plans to make an unusually large initial order of 1,000 copies, versus the 200 or so Cornell's album will garner. So, what does this show us, boys and girls? Well, NIN are destined to make a bundle of cash this September 21, as retailers are stocking more of The Fragile than Euphoria Morning by a count of 5:1. Add in Tori Amos, Sloan, Our Lady Peace, some rap groups, and it seems that Chris Cornell's album is not destined to be in the top 10 album sales for that week. I expect, and its unfortunate that I'm saying this, that Chris will have a top 20 album, and slip down to the 80's.. Unless Jimmy has a trick up his sleeve, then we all will have a critically acclaimed, low-selling CD in our hands. Ah, and I remember I picked up DOTU when it was #2 on the charts. *sigh*. Jimmy will get respect off me if he markets this album enough so people can appreciate what we're all wasting our time on SOMMS for :) Dave P.S. Oh, and the reviews I've seen for EM, on Deb's site..SHIT...can they pound it anymore? Its like "been there, done that.". ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:49:54 PDT From: kristina allen Subject: Re: New Pic on Site >From: Joe Franks >Reply-To: Joe Franks >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: New Pic on Site >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:58:04 PDT > >Just wondering if anyone has checked out the new CC pic and the web site. >Chris kinda looks like a biker dude > > i like the picture and all the other ones i don't think it matters how >the picture was taken or hoe he looks it's the fact that it is chris >cornell!!!!!!! >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:20:49 -0400 From: Tom Gipson Subject: satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas hey, gues who just scored a copy of BMF / SOMMS? me! yeah! i got it off of ebay.com! both cds are in perfect condition with no scratches. the only thing is, the case has one of the little tabs broken off. oh well though who gives a fuck. anyways, is that list of somms owners still around? if so, can you add me? thank you. Also, i have two copies of the FOBD single. one of them is kind of brown on the cover, has a thin case and three songs, FOBD, Girl U Want, and FOBD Demo. another is a big wierd black case. it looks as though it is meant to hold two cds, but i only got one with it. on the back it lists fobd, motorcycle loop, girl u want, and fobd demo. this is the listing for the cd i have. on the inside, there is a cardboard thing that lists fobd, kyle petty son of richard, and fobd live. am i missing a cd? if so that sucks! anyways, sorry to boast! -=t0m=- .---------------------------------------. | http://w3.to/4sum5sum | .---------------------------------------. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:39:24 EDT From: Niki Freer Subject: travel with your ears open. found this in raygun issue #71 - chris cornell cover - pg 115. just... a bit of coincidence, i suppose. band: Euphoria album: Euphoria label: Six Degrees "Euphoria brings a uniquely guitar-driven twist in electronica. Slide guitars meet competing grooves and ambient soundscapes to create an entire-new world of sound." --mindriot ps- go check Jukebox. Buffer *THIS* realaudio! [ gestures wildly a la Fear & Loathing in LV ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:27:07 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: Excellent New Thread (If I do say so myself) Since we really haven't delved into song interps for Chris's new stuff, I had an idea. Which of the songs on the new album can be interpreted as being about the breakup of Soundgarden? (In your opinion of course.) I will say Preaching The End of the World. The whole idea of something ending kind of makes me think that. That line about being twenty four with everything to live for seems to be about the youthful optimism they all had. Then the line about the end saying "there will be no commitment no confessions, and no little secrets to keep," reminds me of that press release we all saw on April 9, 1997. How it kind of just ended with out a bang. Anyway I chose this thread also because you all don't need access to the songs, but you can read all the words here (http://www.chriscornell.com/lyrics.html) Be Well, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:30:24 +0800 From: dream sister Subject: EM at CDnow At 14:18 27/08/99 PDT, wellwaterc@HOTMAIL.COM wrote: >So, what does this show us, boys and girls? Well, NIN are destined to make a >bundle of cash this September 21, as retailers are stocking more of The >Fragile than Euphoria Morning by a count of 5:1. Add in Tori Amos, Sloan, >Our Lady Peace, some rap groups, and it seems that Chris Cornell's album is >not destined to be in the top 10 album sales for that week. Well, regardless of sales, CDNow apparantly has enough faith to let you pre-order "Euphoria Morning" for $12.99. Of course advance orders for NIN, Tori Amos and Sloan are availabe as well. And there's no doubt that these artists (I don't know about the latter) *will* hit big in the charts that week. Their singles and the videos are already out. But what's more important, their huge (loyal) fanbases alone, are enough to propel them to the Top 10, without much help from the media. ds ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 27 Aug 1999 to 28 Aug 1999 ************************************************