From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 26 Aug 1999 to 27 Aug 1999 Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 2:02 AM There are 37 messages totalling 1454 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Rolling Stone 2. EM Japanese version 3. Howard Stern 4. Some thoughts on EM (2) 5. SG mention in Filter interview (2) 6. Natasha is not a newbie 7. Missing MTV 8. Balcony C 9. mp3s of new album 10. old school questions (6) 11. venue change!!! 12. SG webcast 13. Whats the deal? 14. Euphoria is catching :-) 15. SG '92 pics 16. DOTU vinyl (3) 17. Oh, I almost forgot.... (3) 18. hey SF SOMMSters 19. you can tell by the company she keeps... (2) 20. New Pic on Site 21. Fwd: allstar Daily News - 8/25 (2) 22. Follow My Way 23. newsweek EM review 24. cant change me on radio To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:01:44 PDT From: Joe Franks Subject: Rolling Stone On the rolling stone web site they mention a Soundgarden Album called foreshocks made in 1994. I never heard of it and I wonder if any of you guys had and if ya had what songs are on it. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:40:22 +0900 From: Kaolly Uozumi Subject: Re: EM Japanese version Hi. MARCO, Japanese edition has two extra tracks. but no information what they are. I suppose one of them is a CCM French version. Chris tald in the Japanese magazine that there is different version in CCM which is called French one. When I heard CCM for the first time,I found it like Paris Musette(?). I looking forword to it. *********** Kaolly Uozumi URL: http://www.win.ne.jp/~kaolly/ E-mail: kaolly@super.win.ne.jp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:55:01 EDT From: Tammy Read Subject: Howard Stern I'm listening to Howard Stern right now, and I've just heard two SG clips - JCP and Dusty. It's early, and that's my cheap entertainment this morning... :) Just thought I'd share that. Tammy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:41:19 -0500 From: Greg Garfield Subject: Some thoughts on EM This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEEFAF.87F13600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just can't get over how incredible this album is. I was expecting it = to be, but I had no idea. It's got grammy written all over it, not that = it matters! I don't have time to post a full review, so I'll just make = a few comments. =20 =20 Preaching The End of The World - Magnificent ballad. Soulful. The churning drum sample thing really = grew on me. I didn't really find any notable similarities to BUTOW = (save of course for the semi-apocalyptic lyrics) - this is a really = unique song in its own right. =20 Follow My Way -=20 This was the first one I really latched on to. Strong Zep influence, = middle-eastern strings, vocals sliding around like warm butter. Bass is = wonderful and fluid. A true credit to the song. I strongly disagree = with whoever said something to the effect of 'Chris tries to scream too = much in this one'. It has a judicious balance of crooning and = screaming. And the screaming, as always, is artful. The lyrics are = majestic and oracular, very SG. (to digress, I think in the first = verse, Chris might actually be saying "through oblivion I'm charged", = instead of "through oblivion I charge", as he does later). It certainly = appears this one is not only a partial tip of the hat to Soundgarden = fans (as, I believe, is 'Disappearing One'), I think it's a brave baring = of Chris's soul to us in his fears and daring on going solo after such a = great success as SG, and a plea to follow him on a new adventure = ("follow me down into a swan dive"). GLADLY, my boy. =20 When I'm Down - YES! YES! YES! MAGNIFICENT! I had precisely the same image as the = SOMMSTER who envisioned Chris in a smoky bar crooning this one pianoside = a la 'The Fabulous Baker Boys'. I agree that this is experimental much = in the Buckley sense. This one would have fit in perfectly for Jeff on = Grace. But it's all in Chris's inimitable style. I did get a major = TOTD vibe in this tune. The gospelish harmonies during the guitar solo = are AMAZING! LOVE IT. =20 Mission I like it. To be honest, it's the one that grabbed me the least, = though, on the first few listens. It just hasn't really inspired me = like all of the others, but it could easily grow on me more. Yes, I've = said it before, and others have too - it's very Alice in Chains. =20 Wave Goodbye Wonderful! It really wasn't what I expected this one to sound like, but = I was pleasantly surprised. Funkadelic. It's wistful, but oddly... I = don't know.... celebratory. Like a New Orleans funeral party. I agree = that Chris's falsetto trills at a couple of points in this one are pure = Buckley, a la Mojo Pin. And why not? It's almost eerie. But it's = Chris's own style for the rest of the song. The "Lay Down and Die" = scream gave me chills. As did the beauteous hybrid Jeff-Chris falsetto = transition part that follows. Thanks for sharing something so personal, = Chris. =20 Moonchild - LOVE IT! I'm a little surprised to hear people expressing = disappointment with this one. I think it beatiful and purely Chris. = "Lonesome as gold in a poor man's smile". HA! I love it! The chord = progressions are in the tradition of Chris's finest. Like melancholy = bleeding into majesty then resolve. Particularly following the tasty = guitar solo into the transition "And when if is only yes and no, and now = becomes too soon." And how Chris sings "you'll be aaAAAlriight" still = gives me goosebumps. Got a Floyd vibe in one part. I will say, if you = want to make a comparison to BUTOW, this is the tune, but only for the = ending fade out. I mean, the first time I heard it, I was singing the = phantom part, "blow up the outside.......blow up the outside.......blow = up the outside..........." You'll see what I mean. =20 Sweet Euphoria Amazing. Truly the most stripped down on the album and VERY emotive. = I'll leave it at that. =20 Disappearing one AWESOME! Love it!! Matt's playing is the epitome of grace and = simplicity. The drum roll pattern that follows the first chorus and = appears later is absolutely TASTY. I will digress at this point as a = drummer to say that, although the other drummers performed better than I = thought they would, and do the album justice, Matt shows us in this one = why he's drumGOD, and I do wish that he had played the entire album. = Freese's fills are just...OK. They're what you'd expect. But at times = they just peter out at the end, whereas Matt's original and sycopated = fills always begin, play out and end STRONGLY, with methodically placed = kick drum accents. That said, overall, I iterate that Freese, Indrizzo, = and Rieflin do an admirable job, considering they're not quite at Matt's = level. That was quite a digression. I apologize. Anyhoo, this tune is = brooding and melancholy, a true pi=E9ta. (Which makes the amazing = 'Christ' lyric that much more poignant) I think this one's about Chris = killing and resurrecting his muse in a new body. The chorus almost = sounds like a reassurance to SG fans, but in all likelihood it's Chris's = muse addressing him. Wonderful imagery. This is truly one of my = favorites (what am I saying? Almost all are my favorites!). Radiohead = in parts. That's good. =20 Pillow of Your Bones- Astonishing. Dark, heavy, gothic. Natasha, you have impressed me. The = lyrics are some of the finest on the album. Truly an expressionist = painting of words. These and Follow My Way are the closest to the SG = style of lyrics that you'll find on this album. (Yes, I know Johannes = and Shneider contributed). I LOVE the verses, as well as the creepy, = dreamy prechorus and the chorus itself. This song bubbles and seethes. = DIG the ominous transitions between chorus and verse. =20 Steel Rain- Another WONDERFUL brooding tune. A good choice for last song. = Wonderful emotive slide solo. I'll leave it at that again, except to = say that, again, I am suprised to hear it said that some think the end = "falls apart," or is somehow inappropriate to the song. I think the end = is the best part. I LOVE IT! You can almost hear what falling steel = rain sounds like. Like something off the soundtrack to the Last = Temptation of Christ. Pure Gabriel and Middle-eastern. Johannes is a = MEAN tabla player. =20 *gasp!* I said more than I thought I would. Sorry. BUY THE ALBUM!!!! *G ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEEFAF.87F13600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just can't get over how incredible = this album=20 is.  I was expecting it to be, but I had no idea.  It's got = grammy=20 written all over it, not that it matters!  I don't have time to = post a full=20 review, so I'll just make a few comments. 
 
Preaching The End of The World = -
Magnificent ballad.  = Soulful.  The=20 churning drum sample thing really grew on me.  I didn't really find = any=20 notable similarities to BUTOW (save of course for the semi-apocalyptic = lyrics) -=20 this is a really unique song in its own right.
 
Follow My Way -
This was the first one I really = latched on=20 to.  Strong Zep influence, middle-eastern strings, vocals sliding = around=20 like warm butter.  Bass is wonderful and fluid.  A true credit = to the=20 song.  I strongly disagree with whoever said something to the = effect of=20 'Chris tries to scream too much in this one'.  It has a judicious = balance=20 of crooning and screaming.  And the screaming, as always, is = artful. =20 The lyrics are majestic and oracular, very SG.  (to digress, I = think in the=20 first verse, Chris might actually be saying "through oblivion I'm=20 charged", instead of "through oblivion I charge", as he = does=20 later).  It certainly appears this one is not only a partial tip of = the hat=20 to Soundgarden fans (as, I believe, is 'Disappearing One'), I think it's = a brave=20 baring of Chris's soul to us in his fears and daring on going solo after = such a=20 great success as SG, and a plea to follow him on a new adventure = ("follow=20 me down into a swan dive").  GLADLY, my boy.
 
When I'm Down -
YES! YES! YES!  = MAGNIFICENT!  I had=20 precisely the same image as the SOMMSTER who envisioned Chris in a smoky = bar=20 crooning this one pianoside a la 'The Fabulous Baker Boys'.  I = agree that=20 this is experimental much in the Buckley sense.  This one would = have fit in=20 perfectly for Jeff on Grace.  But it's all in Chris's inimitable=20 style.  I did get a major TOTD vibe in this tune.  The = gospelish=20 harmonies during the guitar solo are AMAZING!  LOVE = IT.
 
Mission
I like it.  To be honest, it's = the one that=20 grabbed me the least, though, on the first few listens.  It just = hasn't=20 really inspired me like all of the others, but it could easily grow on = me=20 more.  Yes, I've said it before, and others have too - it's very = Alice in=20 Chains.
 
Wave Goodbye
Wonderful!  It really wasn't = what I=20 expected this one to sound like, but I was pleasantly surprised. =20 Funkadelic.  It's wistful, but oddly... I don't know.... = celebratory. =20 Like a New Orleans funeral party.  I agree that Chris's falsetto = trills at=20 a couple of points in this one are pure Buckley, a la Mojo Pin.  = And why=20 not?  It's almost eerie.  But it's Chris's own style for the = rest of=20 the song.  The "Lay Down and Die" scream gave me = chills.  As=20 did the beauteous hybrid Jeff-Chris falsetto transition part that = follows. =20 Thanks for sharing something so personal, Chris.
 
Moonchild -
LOVE IT!  I'm a little = surprised to hear=20 people expressing disappointment with this one.  I think it = beatiful and=20 purely Chris.  "Lonesome as gold in a poor man's = smile". =20 HA!  I love it!  The chord progressions are in the tradition = of=20 Chris's finest.  Like melancholy bleeding into majesty then = resolve. =20 Particularly following the tasty guitar solo into the transition = "And when=20 if is only yes and no, and now becomes too soon."  And how = Chris sings=20 "you'll be aaAAAlriight" still gives me goosebumps.  Got = a Floyd=20 vibe in one part.  I will say, if you want to make a comparison to=20 BUTOW,  this is the tune, but only for the ending fade out.  I = mean,=20 the first time I heard it, I was singing the phantom part, "blow up = the=20 outside.......blow up the outside.......blow up the=20 outside..........."  You'll see what I mean.
 
Sweet Euphoria
Amazing.  Truly the most = stripped down on=20 the album and VERY emotive.  I'll leave it at that.
 
Disappearing one
AWESOME!  Love it!!  = Matt's playing is=20 the epitome of grace and simplicity.  The drum roll pattern that = follows=20 the first chorus and appears later is absolutely TASTY.  I will = digress at=20 this point as a drummer to say that, although the other drummers = performed=20 better than I thought they would, and do the album justice, Matt shows = us in=20 this one why he's drumGOD, and I do wish that he had played the entire=20 album.  Freese's fills are just...OK.  They're what you'd=20 expect.  But at times they just peter out at the end, whereas = Matt's=20 original and sycopated fills always begin, play out and end STRONGLY, = with=20 methodically placed kick drum accents.  That said, overall, I = iterate that=20 Freese, Indrizzo, and Rieflin do an admirable job, considering they're = not quite=20 at Matt's level.  That was quite a digression.  I = apologize. =20 Anyhoo, this tune is brooding and melancholy, a true piéta.  (Which makes the amazing 'Christ' lyric that = much more=20 poignant)  I think this one's about Chris killing and resurrecting = his muse=20 in a new body.  The chorus almost sounds like a reassurance to SG = fans, but=20 in all likelihood it's Chris's muse addressing him.  Wonderful=20 imagery.  This is truly one of my favorites (what am I = saying?  Almost=20 all are my favorites!).  Radiohead in parts.  That's=20 good.
 
Pillow = of Your=20 Bones-
Astonishing.  Dark,=20 heavy, gothic.  Natasha, you have impressed me.  The lyrics = are some=20 of the finest on the album.  Truly an expressionist painting of=20 words.  These and Follow My Way are the closest to the SG style of = lyrics=20 that you'll find on this album. (Yes, I know Johannes and Shneider=20 contributed).  I LOVE the verses, as well as the creepy, dreamy = prechorus=20 and the chorus itself.  This song bubbles and seethes.  DIG = the=20 ominous transitions between chorus and verse.
 
Steel=20 Rain-
Another = WONDERFUL=20 brooding tune.  A good choice for last song.  Wonderful = emotive slide=20 solo.  I'll leave it at that again, except to say that, again, I am = suprised to hear it said that some think the end "falls = apart," or is=20 somehow inappropriate to the song.  I think the end is the best = part. =20 I LOVE IT!  You can almost hear what falling steel rain sounds = like. =20 Like something off the soundtrack to the Last Temptation of = Christ.  Pure=20 Gabriel and Middle-eastern.  Johannes is a MEAN tabla=20 player.
 
*gasp!*  I said more than I thought I = would. =20 Sorry.  BUY THE ALBUM!!!!
*G
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEEFAF.87F13600-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:40:25 EDT From: Igor Nepomnyashchiy Subject: SG mention in Filter interview Q: Some of the songs on Title of Record seem to be influenced by early Jane's Addiction. A: Well, Perry Farrell is a friend. I met him on Lollapalooza when I was 22. But I don't know if he's an influence. Shit, I'm in D on my guitars, so I always think we're a Soundgarden rip-off. In fact, I was never going to even play "Hey Man, Nice Shot." I was never even going to record it because I figured, "That's Soundgarden." The only person who ever said it sounded like Soundgarden was [Soundgarden guitarist] Kim Thayil. He was like, "Yeah, it sounds like us five years ago," and I was like, "All right, you little bitch." But he was cool. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:42:23 +0200 From: Rizzitelli Marco Subject: Natasha is not a newbie This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEEFF2.BCB8BBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Surely you've already noticed, but Natasha Shneider played claviet on SG = "Fresh Tendrils" in 1994...Was anything written???.... CIAO MARCO=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEEFF2.BCB8BBE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Surely you've already noticed, but = Natasha=20 Shneider played claviet on SG "Fresh Tendrils" in = 1994...Was anything=20 written???....
 
CIAO
MARCO 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEEFF2.BCB8BBE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:51:51 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Missing MTV Hey y'all, On the MTV website, there is a link to Making The Video, and afterwards, when the show is finished, it will be presented on the website for RealVideo download, as well as the video itself. Anyway, I know there are people like me who don't get MTV, so is there anyone who can decode the show or just the video and stick it up somewhere? Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:08:51 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: Balcony C Whoo Hoo! Balcony, Row C! Left Center! I got two tickets. one is seat 17, the other is 19. are these next to each other? i know some theatres have funky seating arrangements where the seating goes by every other number. anyone know? These seats better be good. I've never been to Town Hall, so I don't know how the seating is. Anyone who knows if these seats are as good as I think they are, let me know. also is there any plans for a pre-show gathering? a little somms eating fest perhaps? --Mike-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:23:09 -0400 From: Kendrick Kay Subject: mp3s of new album To find some mp3s of Chris' new album: ftp to 140.247.174.249 login: cornell password: euphoria you can put this in your web browser to get there: ftp://cornell:euphoria@140.247.174.249 I did this since we are all dying to hear the new album. if you like them, BUY the fucking album. we're all hardcore in one way or another; and so, don't distribute to the general public. these will be gone once the album is actually released. Kendrick, http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~kay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:34:25 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: old school questions Does anyonw know the reason Hiro left Soundgarden back in the day, or why Jason Everman didn't last very long? Just wondering, its old news, but I've never heard it so if anyone would be cool enough to give me the scoop (if there's one to be told) I thank you in advance. Robin ! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:48:18 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: old school questions I've heard two reasons for Hiro's departure: 1) he wanted to go (back?) to college 2) he had lost faith in his songwriting abilities The two reasons are not incompatible. Jason Everman auditioned during the same period Ben Shepherd initially did. Jason knew SG's songs, Ben didn't, a tour was eminent, so SG went with Jason. Once in the studio Jason "didn't work out" according to Thayil and Cornell, so they tried again and (thankfully) got Shepherd. SG's recordings with Jason sound very plodding. I don't think he quite got it. >From: Robin Warren >Subject: old school questions >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > >Does anyonw know the reason Hiro left Soundgarden back in the day, or why >Jason Everman didn't last very long? Just wondering, its old news, but I've >never heard it so if anyone would be cool enough to give me the scoop (if >there's one to be told) I thank you in advance. >Robin ! > > --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:12:10 EDT From: Catherine Veit Subject: venue change!!! attention LA sommsters...just heard on KROQ that the venue has been changed from the El Rey to the Henry Fonda Theater...i figured this would happen sooner or later...every El Rey show i've attended had to suddenly switch venues a week to 2 weeks prior! -cats4kim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:33:11 +0200 From: "Huib, Mandy & Sanne Mulder" Subject: SG webcast This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01BEF00A.98B6AB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Visited www.rollingstone.com and found in the section Webcasts on the = right:=20 Friday 27th August 8:00 PM (EST): interview Soundgarden bij Brian Paruch = of Q101. I don't know how old it is. Just wanted you to know. Mandy. ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01BEF00A.98B6AB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Visited www.rollingstone.com and found = in the=20 section Webcasts on the right:
Friday 27th August 8:00 = PM (EST):=20 interview Soundgarden bij Brian Paruch of Q101.
I don't know how old it = is.
Just=20 wanted you to know.
 
Mandy.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0064_01BEF00A.98B6AB40-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:54:26 -0700 From: Mike Coleman Subject: Whats the deal? Is there a Can't Change Me single available to buy at record stores or what? I have not seen anything! Someone fill me in please! This is getting to be really frustrating! MIKE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:15:29 PDT From: Monnica Lewis Subject: Re: old school questions If I remember right, Hiro left for "steady employment". He's probably kicked himself quite a few times since then. ;-) The whole Jason thing is still a mystery to me too. I suspect he didn't get along with the other guys too well. Monnica >From: Robin Warren >Reply-To: RobinWarr@CS.COM >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: old school questions >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:34:25 EDT > >Does anyonw know the reason Hiro left Soundgarden back in the day, or why >Jason Everman didn't last very long? Just wondering, its old news, but I've >never heard it so if anyone would be cool enough to give me the scoop (if >there's one to be told) I thank you in advance. >Robin ! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:46:08 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: Re: old school questions did Everman also play with Nirvana? Robin ! -------- In a message dated 8/26/99 1:15:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mllewis51@hotmail.com writes: << If I remember right, Hiro left for "steady employment". He's probably kicked himself quite a few times since then. ;-) The whole Jason thing is still a mystery to me too. I suspect he didn't get along with the other guys too well. Monnica >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:12:25 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: Euphoria is catching :-) Found this on the HMV website. Hope we don't get a bunch of clubbers mistakenly turning up at Shepherds Bush Empire on October 11th ;-) "Ibiza Euphoria is the latest album in the successful Euphoria series. An excellent track listing with a blistering mix from Matt Darey." Deb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:47:58 +0200 From: Rizzitelli Marco Subject: SG '92 pics This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEF01D.6D140920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I don't now if some of you SOMMSers can remember my meeting with SG = in '92 (SG opened for G'N R gig in Turin Italy), well I told you by = e-mail sent two months ago about some pics I took the day before the = concert; a few guys from the list were interested in receiving them...I = must apologize for the delay, but I can send you the pictures only now; = I've got no scanner so with a help from a friend of mine I've scanned = them on his PC. If you're still interested in receiving some of them, = please write me back and I will send you the files privately, 'cause I = think it's not possible to send any files to the list. CIAO MARCO ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEF01D.6D140920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, I don't now if some of you SOMMSers = can=20 remember my meeting with SG in '92 (SG opened for G'N R gig in Turin = Italy),=20 well I told you by e-mail sent two months ago about some pics I took the = day=20 before the concert; a few guys from the list were interested in = receiving=20 them...I must apologize for the delay, but I can send you the pictures = only=20 now; I've got no scanner so = with a help=20 from a friend of mine I've scanned them on his PC. If you're still=20 interested in receiving some of them, please write me back and I=20 will send you the files privately, 'cause I think it's not = possible=20 to send any files to the list.
CIAO
MARCO
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEF01D.6D140920-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:57:36 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: Re: old school questions Everman supposedly "wore out his welcome in record time" with Nirvana. He eventually joined the US Army. Hey, no laughter, a friend of mine joined the Army and that's probably the best thing that ever happened to him (other than liking Jesus Christ Pose a lot :) . >From: Robin Warren >Subject: Re: old school questions >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > >did Everman also play with Nirvana? >Robin ! --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:54:46 -0500 From: Mike Jones Subject: DOTU vinyl Hey, I picked up a factory shrink-wrapped copy of DOTU the other day. It has a sticker that says "limited edition double vinyl" on it. I already have one copy of it on black, and I'm aware that DOTU was had a pressing of 1500 clear vinyl. Should I take the risk of opening it and seeing if its clear? Thanks Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:05:07 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: DOTU vinyl I'm no expert, but I'd hold off breaking the seal. Try searching for serial #'s and such. Sealed collectibles are more valuable. >From: Mike Jones >Organization: The Joneses >Subject: DOTU vinyl >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > >Hey, I picked up a factory shrink-wrapped copy of DOTU the other day. It >has a sticker that says "limited edition double vinyl" on it. I already >have one copy of it on black, and I'm aware that DOTU was had a pressing >of 1500 clear vinyl. Should I take the risk of opening it and seeing if >its clear? > >Thanks >Andy > > --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:28:08 -0500 From: Greg Garfield Subject: Oh, I almost forgot.... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01BEEFE8.5D096320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If Natasha doesn't get credit for singing on 'Pillow of Your Bones', = it's because she doesn't. I think you're mistaking Chris's beautiful = falsetto in the prechorus for Natasha's voice (the falsetto is laid over = the other vocal track). *G ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01BEEFE8.5D096320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If Natasha doesn't get credit for singing on 'Pillow = of Your=20 Bones', it's because she doesn't.  I think you're mistaking Chris's = beautiful falsetto in the prechorus for Natasha's voice (the falsetto is = laid=20 over the other vocal track).
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------=_NextPart_000_008A_01BEEFE8.5D096320-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:41:56 PDT From: Pretty Noose Subject: hey SF SOMMSters did you guys get tickets yet? I've been trying to buy them and online and one the phgone they said that they have no date for the Chris Cornell show, that baisically it doesn't exist! do I have to actually go to the Fillmore to buy tix? The origianl pretty noose _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:50:23 +1000 From: Justin NICHOLLS Subject: Re: you can tell by the company she keeps... On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 Sonik417@aol.com wrote: > What's the poncier cd? Never heard of it. Are these versions the same as > the Stolen Prayers versions? Thanks! this is taken directly from steve's discog. PONCIER Label: Real Clever Records Venue: The studio Time: N/A Sound: A 1. Seasons 2. Nowhere But You (Demo) 3. Spoonman (Demo) 4. Flutter Girl (Demo) 5. Missing (Demo) Notes: "5 Chris Cornell demos (if you have Stolen Prayers, you've got the songs) This comes in a plastic CD single case. The cover is red with a black shadow of a guy (supposed to be like Cliff Poncier from Singles) it says Poncier and the 5 song titles. Found it at a record show. " - Tina I think the cover of the single is displayed on deb's site. it is predominantly orange-yellow, with a small picture of him on the right. I can't make out what the picture on the cd itself is, but it is in the vein of the 'fell on black days' graphics. justin ------------------ q: is it easy kicking so much ass? a: yes, because there is so much ass to be kicked out there. -matt cameron, 1998 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:50:29 EDT From: Chad Misselhorn Subject: Re: Oh, I almost forgot.... by the way, i think you should consider yourself fans enough of soundgarden to go check out eleven cd's. they are very unique sounding. natasha has got TONS of soul.. my friend thought she must be black but isn't. lots of cool guitar tones and interesting structures on both albums i've heard of them. also, (dumb question), does anyone have that superunknown multimedia cd? is it a cool cd or is it just another multimedia cd by a band that happens to rule? no haiku today just a word of the day.. SPIRALING ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:15:58 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: Re: Oh, I almost forgot.... >also, (dumb question), does anyone have that superunknown multimedia cd? >is it a cool cd or is it just another multimedia cd by a band that happens to >rule? I like it pretty well. Graphics are a bit dated... Has full videos for Spoonman (just the man himself) and FOBD, IIRC. --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:58:04 PDT From: Joe Franks Subject: New Pic on Site Just wondering if anyone has checked out the new CC pic and the web site. Chris kinda looks like a biker dude _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:06:23 EDT From: Nick Boos Subject: Re: Some thoughts on EM In a message dated 8/26/99 8:42:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ggarfield@GARFIELDCO.COM writes: << *gasp!* I said more than I thought I would. Sorry. BUY THE ALBUM!!!! *G >> I would LOVE to buy the album...but I dont know where you all are getting it since it really doesnt come out yet for a month...if someone who has it has the hookups...please by all means hook me up....i dont want to have to pay 50 bucks on ebay for a 15 buck CD...thanks -Nick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:17:08 PDT From: kristina allen Subject: Fwd: allstar Daily News - 8/25 > >CHRIS CORNELL DISCUSSES EUPHORIA MORNING > "We've been concentrating mostly on the dance routines >so far, 'cause there's something on every song and I've >never danced and sang at the same time," deadpans >ex-Soundgarden frontman-turned solo artist Chris >Cornell with a dry wit that would make Bob Newhart >proud. It was one of those rare moments of >light-hearted silliness from the otherwise serious >Cornell, who was talking about his upcoming tour plans >and solo debut, Euphoria Morning (A&M, Sept. 21). > >Speaking from Europe during a busy press day, Cornell >can't help but throw in the random laugh line; he >spent this entire week answering some of the same >questions over and over -- "Will Soundgarden ever get >back together?" (He hasn't ruled this out entirely.) >"Was it scary doing your first solo record?" ("I don't >worry about it much," he says.) or "Will hardcore >Soundgarden fans like your mellower direction?" ("There >will be some Soundgarden fans that don't like it. But >there will also be some Soundgarden fans that don't >even expect to like it."). > >It becomes clear quickly that what Cornell really wants >to talk about is, simply, his new album. The highly >eclectic Euphoria Morning just about picks up where >Soundgarden left off with songs like "Black Hole Sun," >but it's also what Cornell has been hinting at for >awhile now as evidenced on such non-Soundgarden >offerings, such as Temple of the Dog, or his solo >soundtrack contributions: "Seasons" (Singles), his >acoustic version of Superunknown's "Like Suicide" >(S.F.W.), or, more recently, "Sunshower" (Great >Expectations). > >"I think, in a sense, the record is so musically dense >that it is going to be challenging to somebody the >first couple of listens," he says, "but over time, >there's so much going on, that it will be a record that >people play a lot. > >"The only thing that I wonder about is if people will >think that the sides of music I've done outside of >Soundgarden, including this record, is something that I >like more about music than Soundgarden itself, which >isn't the case at all," says Cornell, who wrote, >produced, and performed most of the record with Alain >Johannes and Natasha Shneider of Eleven. "There's no >reason to be writing music similar to your band of 12 >years when you're not doing anything for that band, >because there are so many other areas musically to go >into... They're infinite really. > >"And, I've never had a willingness to be repetitive >either," he continues. "In a sense, that makes this >record kind of whimsical. I certainly wasn't going into >this with the idea that I had to please Soundgarden >fans, I had to please myself." > >While pleasing oneself is easier without three other >guys around to consider, Cornell says the creative >freedom that a solo project allows has its difficulties >too. "The moment to moment creative freedom made it >easier to record the record and have it turn out the >way it is now," he explains. "But then there's a lot of >aspects of it that made it difficult [because] of not >having a specific reference to write for. > >"[Soundgarden] was sort of an entity in itself that has >its own life. But me being just me, I don't have that >same kind of objectivity. I didn't create a character >like Alice Cooper where I can say, 'Well, Alice >wouldn't do this, but Alice would do that.' I'm just >me, I don't know what I would do... what I can do. I >can do anything as far as I'm concerned. And so you >have to decide what 'anything' is going to be 12 times >and then put it on an album." > >What "anything" is for Cornell on Euphoria Morning is a >very diverse, brave new musical territory that spans >from beautifully simplistic acoustic numbers ("Sweet >Euphoria") to more complex, lush arrangements (the >first single, "Can't Change Me") to soulful songs that >are part bluesy/part old school crooning ("Disappearing >One," "When I'm Down"). > >Cornell partially credits Johannes and Shneider (who >also produced, arranged, and mixed the album at their >11AD studio with Cornell) with helping him find and >execute what he was looking for "in the sense of >stretching out and getting into new musical landscapes >that I wouldn't have thought of myself, but that at the >same time felt totally natural. And that was brilliant. >It made me feel really confident that the record, as a >whole, would be really special." > >And, as for those dance routines, well, fans will have >to settle for a good ol' fashioned rock band this fall >when Cornell and his band, which includes Johannes >(guitar, backing vocals), Shneider (keyboards, backing >vocals) Ric Markmann (bass), and Greg Upchurch (drums) >hit the road for six dates in September. A full North >American tour will run through November and December. > >Chris Cornell tour dates: > > Sept. 13, Cambridge, Mass., Sanders Theater Sept. 14, >New York, Town Hall Sept. 17, Washington, D.C., 9:30 >Club Sept. 20, San Francisco, the Fillmore Sept. 21-22, >Los Angeles, El Rey Theater For more information on >Cornell, check out www.chriscornell.com >(http://www.chriscornell.com). > > - Carrie Borzillo > >For more information on: > >--> Eleven >http://p01.com/r.d?XkGl8ovsZrM=/cdnow.com/disco/ArtistID=ELEVEN > >--> Soundgarden >http://p01.com/r.d?ZkGl8ovsZrM=/cdnow.com/disco/ArtistID=SOUNDGARDEN > >_______________________________________________________ JUST SOME INFO I GOT MAILED TO ME!! -KRISTINA _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:34:56 -0600 From: Fluttergirl Subject: Re: Fwd: allstar Daily News - 8/25 > >CHRIS CORNELL DISCUSSES EUPHORIA MORNING > "We've been concentrating mostly on the dance routines >so far, 'cause there's something on every song and I've >never danced and sang at the same time," deadpans >ex-Soundgarden frontman-turned solo artist Chris >Cornell with a dry wit that would make Bob Newhart >proud. Aside for the music, this is why I've always liked Soundgarden. They can be DAMN funny. Thanks for sharing that "rare moment." Fluttergirl (new and improved! more deadpan humor in every email!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:45:10 EDT From: Niki Freer Subject: Re: you can tell by the company she keeps... justin writes: > I can't make out what the picture on the cd itself is, but it is in the > vein of the 'fell on black days' graphics. well if you've seen singles or own it, when Janet [bridget fonda] is sweeping the rose petals spelling out her name into that drawer near the end of the movie, she also plunks a tape into the drawer. that's poncier only it's a cassette. the image is cliff with his arms out, kinda... jeff ament/eddie vedder feel. gotta look quick, it goes by about as fast as mark arm's cameo. at least thats the version i've always seen. never have seen another cover for it. -mindriot ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:48:12 EDT From: Nick Boos Subject: Follow My Way Just an observation- during the verses of Follow My Way doesnt Chris's singing style have kind of a Steve Miller vibe going along with with it, I think so. -Nick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:52:51 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: Re: old school questions wow, booted from both Nirvana & Soundgarden- he must be one of those musicians that believe in God....& that he is It! Robin ! ---------- In a message dated 8/26/99 2:58:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, billh@EXIT118.COM writes: << Everman supposedly "wore out his welcome in record time" with Nirvana. He eventually joined the US Army. Hey, no laughter, a friend of mine joined the Army and that's probably the best thing that ever happened to him (other than liking Jesus Christ Pose a lot :) . >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:54:36 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: Re: DOTU vinyl Even if it is clear, it'll still be worth more in the packaging vs. if you open it to find out. Maybe take it to a local specialty record store & ask thier opinion, they may be able to help. Robin ! -------- In a message dated 8/26/99 3:03:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, billh@EXIT118.COM writes: << I'm no expert, but I'd hold off breaking the seal. Try searching for serial #'s and such. Sealed collectibles are more valuable. >From: Mike Jones >Organization: The Joneses >Subject: DOTU vinyl >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > >Hey, I picked up a factory shrink-wrapped copy of DOTU the other day. It >has a sticker that says "limited edition double vinyl" on it. I already >have one copy of it on black, and I'm aware that DOTU was had a pressing >of 1500 clear vinyl. Should I take the risk of opening it and seeing if >its clear? > >Thanks >Andy >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:49:08 -0400 From: Tom Gipson Subject: newsweek EM review Euphoria Morning / Chris Cornell For 13 years, Chris Cornell's plutonic voice elbowed for room in Soundgarden's guitar stew. "Our approach was that everything should be louder than every other thing," he says. When the band broke up in 1997, Cornell began his Solo Record, a term us- ually synonymous with navel-gazing acoustics. Not this time. "Euphoria Morning" is dark and thunderous with, yes, fewer guitars--but with a vocal turn by Cornell that dominates the album. "Making it was great," he says. "I was hearing myself sound like I've never sounded before." that's the review in the August 30, 1999 issue of Newsweek. there is also a picture of chris in it. -=t0m=- .---------------------------------------. | http://w3.to/4sum5sum | .---------------------------------------. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:34:22 EDT From: James Connolly Subject: Re: SG mention in Filter interview i always had it in the back of my mind to write to the list that i thought "Hey Man Nice Shot" sounded very very Soundgarden...it reminds me of a ton of different SG songs, ie Flower, JCP, Outshined...i could go on, but i don't want to Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:58:45 +1000 From: Robert Joseph Hutchinson Subject: cant change me on radio hi, talking about cant change me as a single, i don't know what singles are going to be released in Australia, but triple j has an advance copy of something which has cant change me on it. Michael Tunn played it yesterday (thursday) and i taped it!!!! First song i've heard and it was great. Anyway, triple j has a request thing somewhere at the website i believe if anyone wants to request it - abc.net.au/triplej - i'm not sure if theres a www or not, but there should be links to the net 50 request page or something like that triple j rocks (most of the time) rob ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 26 Aug 1999 to 27 Aug 1999 ************************************************