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Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:01 AM

There are 16 messages totalling 551 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. You two (With bonus Chris/SG content!)
  2. napster
  3. (no subject)
  4. Real Player
  5. about the London show.....
  6. Sweet Euphoria
  7. i love austin
  8. chris cornell music video? (2)
  9. let your motor race...
 10. you can tell by the company she keeps... (3)
 11. Making the Video
 12. there's a single?
 13. rollingstone webcast

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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:19:40 EDT
From:    Robin Warren <RobinWarr@CS.COM>
Subject: Re: You two (With bonus Chris/SG content!)

my apologies to my fellow SOMMster's, It wasn't very cool of me to sink to
his level, I just felt the need to defend myself, when someone says "and
here's a haiku for all of you badmouthing fuckheads" & can't come up with a
reason for it. For what it's worth, I have no desire to continue the subject,
please overlook my breech of ettiquite.
As for Soundgarden related news, I heard on an interview on the local radio
station (KNND) that the possibility of a reunion isn't out of the questions,
but it may depend on how well the sucess of the solo album.
Robin !
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In a message dated 8/24/99 8:59:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Nothng2Say@AOL.COM writes:

> <<you have niether answered my question, nor adressed the issue at hand. Do
>  you
>  have anything else to offer other than your immature poetry, or do you just
>  have nothing to say?
>  Robin !>>
>
>  First of all, Nothng2Say is MY job.  Secondly, this is a prime example of
>  things not to post to the list.  Take care of this between yourselves.  No
>  one on SOMMS care who's right or wrong, or who started it.
>
>  Thank you,
>  Matt
>
>  P.S. So I don't sound like a hypocrite, I'll add some relevant content.
The
>  Raygun Chris article is very good.  Very insightful on the album, his life,
>  and possible reuinons "we just needed some time apart from each other."
>  Note: the -ed ending on a verb (as in NEEDED) indicates past tense. yipee

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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:56:36 EDT
From:    Nick Boos <SubPop77@AOL.COM>
Subject: napster

Well-

I tried the napster thing and it wouldnt work. So looks like someone is going
to have to give in and put the album up so we can download it...we will
forever praise you.

-Nick

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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:24:59 +1000
From:    Mansel Ismay <manseli@BIGPOND.COM>
Subject: Re: (no subject)

That's about the best comeback I've ever seen....
-Mansel
-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Warren <RobinWarr@CS.COM>
To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)


>Well fuck you too Mr. Crankypants!!!!! What the hell DID I ever send you to
>warrant such a nasty letter? You best be able to back up your angry words
>because I don't EVER remember writing anthing that warranted me having to
>read your temper tantrum, so lets have some answers buddy-if someone
offended
>you that badly maybe you should have responded to them alone, I'm left
>wondering what hand I played, so fess up. Second of all I don't instanly
>worship Cornell MINDLESSLY, he earned my respect & if he can (which I have
no
>doubts torward) he'll keep it. If Chris put out a single with NSYNC, would
>you still praise him? Would such music be still so prescious "pulled from
the
>void" or better left in the unseen depths......just something hypothetical
to
>THINK on. I'm all one for loyallty which you obviouslly have & where I
think
>your venting is coming from (still no excusde for being RUDE), but I think
it
>needs to be inpired, not THREATENED into someone. One last thing, for
someone
>who has in shorts in such a wad about people being judgemental,  I think
you
>just out did everyone in THAT department, so either practice what you
preach
>or pour yourself a nice cool glass of SHUT THE HELL UP! thanks!
>Robin !
>-----------------
>In a message dated 8/24/99 12:19:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>Chadlee23@AOL.COM writes:
>
>> this is bullshit
>>
>>  so few of these emails actually make me have faith in you losers
>>
>>  this is chris cornell music
>>  it's not some jagoff writing pop tunes
>>  it's not some fucker trying to be the beatles
>>
>>  next time you steal a song off the internet
>>  sit back and think to yourself
>>  somebody pulled this creation out of the void
>>  they pulled it out of absolutely nothing
>>  to create something the human race has never experienced before
>>  and all those shortcomings you make up
>>  to make yourself feel better about yourself
>>  are just imagined bits of ego
>>
>>  music is music
>>  if only everyone would just jam
>>
>>  chris cornell is a small piece of god..
>>  and i know when his album falls in my hands
>>  i'm gonna respect it as fuckin beautiful music
>>  so fuck all of you judgers, you are the same fuckers who start wars
>>
>>
>>  and here's a haiku for all of you badmouthing fuckheads:
>>
>>  Shitcannon
>>
>>  you open your mouth
>>  so loads of shit can fly out,
>>  eat your fuckin words

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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:33:54 +1000
From:    Mansel Ismay <manseli@BIGPOND.COM>
Subject: Real Player

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I tell you this.
Real Player is perhaps one of the worst innovations in computer =
technology and the way it has been harnessed is even worse. Who else =
here gets "Buffering, Net congestion" every few seconds when trying to =
get their clip? Net congestion my ass. I sympathise with each and every =
one of you. All I can say is, the sooner EM comes out, the better.
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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:00:25 +0200
From:    marta <fluttergirl@TELELINE.ES>
Subject: Re: about the London show.....

>ESTE MENSAJE TIENE FORMATO MIME. Al no reconocer
su lector de correo este formato, puede que no se pueda leer
nada o parte del mensaje.

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Hey Alan
We are travelling from Madrid to London to see Mr Cornell and we will
finally meet Ms Baker ;)
So see you there!

Two euphoric girls

Marta and Carmen


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De: alan ball <edge@BASE85.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Para: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Asunto: about the London show.....
Fecha: mi=E9r., 25 agos 1999 05:06


So I ordered my tickets for the London show yesterday, is anyone else here
going???  I know Deborah Baker is.  Deb you luck so and so, you got front
and centre?  I don't mind where I sit, as long as I get to see!!!

--Alan.


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Hey Alan<BR>
We are travelling from Madrid to London to see Mr Cornell and we will final=
ly meet Ms Baker ;)<BR>
So see you there!<BR>
<BR>
Two euphoric girls<BR>
<BR>
Marta and Carmen<BR>
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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:09:08 +0100
From:    Deborah Baker <deborah@RUSTYCAGE.U-NET.COM>
Subject: Sweet Euphoria

I have to disagree with Justin when he says (below) he would have liked more
songs like Sweet Euphoria on the album. I love it  - it's probably my
favourite right now - but I would compare Euphoria Morning to a delicious,
but very rich meal - albeit with a light fluffy starter in Can't Change Me.

The French often pause during a big meal to eat or drink something that
cleanses and refreshes the palate (my favourite used to be a calvados water
ice) before tucking into the remaining courses. To me, the stripped down
clarity of Sweet Euphoria is like that water ice and I think it's powerful
presence on the album would be diminished if there were more songs like it.

Bloody hell, I sound pretentious, don't I? ;-) But I'm sure you get my
drift.

Deb

>'sweet euphoria' - "touched and broken are the things you love..."

>now this is how the record should have sounded. no, that's unfair; there
>are some well produced team efforts elsewhere on _euphoria morning_. more
>accurately, this is the sound the record should have utilised more often,
>chris by himself. I'm pleased that 'sweet euphoria' is here, unfettered by
>various session players and eleven members. chris shines on this track,
>recorded completely by him at home. of all the songs featured here, this
>is the one that comes closest not only to real inspiration, but to
>perfection.

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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:46:25 EDT
From:    Ryan Parks <MrMtPants1@AOL.COM>
Subject: i love austin

hello all,

well, i'm back at school, i'm here...finally unpacked...and i'm loving it.
so today, i went to a local record shop and bought several records which is
so much cooler here than in Dallas (my home eh) because...well because of
everything.  For example, one of the records i bought was BMF on the pee gold
vinyl...i'd been looking for this for quite a while.  i'd already had it on
black (it's a promo edition of BMF) but this tops my collection.  The cool
thing is, instead of being ripped like in dallas (by the one
place...cough...bills...cough...that has ANY records) i was delighted to see
that it was only 4 dollars.  yes, 4 american dollars.  i also could afford to
treat myself to a few others, some hendrix, cheap trick, zeppelin, u2, and
the who.

HOWEVER!!!! the coolest thing was that i started shootin shit with the guy
and started talking about SG and Chris...so i asked if they had recieved any
advance promo's of EM...he said that they hadn't but that they were expecting
some....SO he asks...not me asking him, but HE asked if i WANTED to LEAVE my
name and number so that they could call me when they come in.  jeez...i'm so
stoked...that means i've spent all this time downloading with my crappy 28.8
modem like for the last 3 days for nothing...ah well.  hehehe, small music
stores rock.  the people at tower next door didn't even know who chris
cornell was, much less that he had an album coming.  pish,

ryan

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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:47:17 PDT
From:    kristina allen <bootyfly@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: chris cornell music video?

  Here is the rumor as i have heard it, you know how mtv has a show called
making the video? well chris cornell is doing it and it airs monday night at
10:30 and you know what happens after that? his new music video for "can't
change me" comes out!!!!!
               -kristina


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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:16:34 EDT
From:    Robin Warren <RobinWarr@CS.COM>
Subject: Re: chris cornell music video?

What station? Is it a Uk channel because I've never heard of that show, but
then again, I'm not a big connesiuer of tv.....
Robin !
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In a message dated 8/25/99 2:49:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bootyfly@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<< Here is the rumor as i have heard it, you know how mtv has a show called
 making the video? well chris cornell is doing it and it airs monday night at
 10:30 and you know what happens after that? his new music video for "can't
 change me" comes out!!!!!
                -kristina >>

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Date:    Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:35:55 +1000
From:    Justin NICHOLLS <j.nicholls@UQ.NET.AU>
Subject: let your motor race...

On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Deborah Baker wrote:

> The French often pause during a big meal to eat or drink something that
> cleanses and refreshes the palate (my favourite used to be a calvados water
> ice) before tucking into the remaining courses. To me, the stripped down
> clarity of Sweet Euphoria is like that water ice and I think it's powerful
> presence on the album would be diminished if there were more songs like it.

you make a very good point, deb. and I agree wholeheartedly.

in writing about 'sweet euphoria' I was reminded of the venom chris spat
when he recounted some guy telling him that he should "write more songs
like 'seasons'". never let it be said that *I* would tell chris what to
write ;)

I feel that 'sweet euphoria' might be the most emotive song on the record.
it is completely naked, chris and a guitar. more importantly it is without
natasha and alain's interference.

I can't help but wonder what an album like that might sound like.

justin


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a: yes, because there is so much ass to be kicked out there.
-matt cameron, 1998

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Date:    Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:50:19 +1000
From:    Justin NICHOLLS <j.nicholls@UQ.NET.AU>
Subject: you can tell by the company she keeps...

I knew I had something else to tell you...<grinning>

on a whim I went to the upstairs section of hmv records last night and
found chris cornell's new single for sale ($9.95).

the b-sides are

2. 'fluttergirl' from the poncier cd;
3. 'nowhere but you' from the poncier cd;
4. 'when I'm down' (demo).

I was quite pleased, obviously ;)

the fourth track is no demo; it is exactly the same as the album version
and certainly not "recorded by chris cornell at home". a glaring error,
but the other two tracks certainly make up for it.

justin


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a: yes, because there is so much ass to be kicked out there.
-matt cameron, 1998

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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:55:58 PDT
From:    Ryan Gilbert <fopp10@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Making the Video

Chris really is going to be on making the video. I did a little
investigating at the MTV website and it's not just a rumor. It will be on
this Monday night on MTV at 10:30 (for those of you on the east coast)


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Date:    Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:21:37 GMT
From:    The Koggle <koggle@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: there's a single?

Hey

Sorry to sound ignorant, stupid or both, but i was unaware there was an
actual single of Can't CHange Me released.. Like now that i think of it,
it's pretty obvious, but there hasn't really been any talk of it on the
list..

Well done Justin! HMV of all places eh?.. What's it look like?

Kogg


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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:18:04 EDT
From:    Niki Freer <GrrlGoal30@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: you can tell by the company she keeps...

justin wrote:

> 3. 'nowhere but you' from the poncier cd;
>

somehow i knew he was very proud of this song and it would show up somewhere
along the lines. interesting, i'll keep my eyes peeled for a copy of this
single......

funny that it's listed as being from the poncier cd, or is that just where
you have your version of it? i never did find a copy of poncier, so i've
always considered it a "stolen prayers" demo. :)

mindriot

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Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:27:29 EDT
From:    Matt Hammons <Nothng2Say@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: you can tell by the company she keeps...

Funny how the album track of Fluttergirl appears as a B-Side.  It sounds like
a single in it's own right to me.

Matt

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Date:    Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:41:54 EDT
From:    Igor Nepomnyashchiy <XAnavriNX@AOL.COM>
Subject: rollingstone webcast

hey all... i was just browsing around rollingstone.com when something hit my
eye:

Soundgarden web cast.... some old interview i think. real video... which
sucks... worth checking out if you have a good connection.

BTW, anyone know what the dilly with NYC tix? i got mine and all but after a
day of being on sale, they went offsale... and should be on sale again now

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