From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 17 Aug 1999 to 18 Aug 1999 Date: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 2:01 AM There are 24 messages totalling 1000 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Can't Change Me. 2. I wasn't going to say anything, but... (5) 3. BTW 4. 5. CCTV part two 6. B-Sides on Ebay? (2) 7. There is a way 8. love is suicide. 9. Flutter Girl (2) 10. VIRUS WARNING! READ! (2) 11. URGENT!! DO NOT OPEN E-MAIL FROM badmotor@FRIKO5.ONET.PL 12. Moog? (3) 13. Wondering...... (2) 14. MA people To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:54:03 +1000 From: Mansel Ismay Subject: Can't Change Me. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01BEE8D1.1C3FBA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey SOMM'sters,=20 I've noticed when listening to SU and DOTU frequently, CCM sounds like a = pretty damn good song.. but after listening to BMF and earlier albums = (And let's face it, BMF was perhaps one of the best albums) I'm am = disgusted with CCM. It's weird, an ambigious feeling of loyalty towards = Chris, but I get the feeling he's really losing his roots? I know what I just said is incoherent. Basically I'm saying, listen to = different types of SG before listening to CCM and see how you think of = it then. This all ties in with the previous thread about track orders = (By the way, I recommend listening to Outshined after New Damage). -Mansel ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01BEE8D1.1C3FBA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey = SOMM'sters,=20

I've noticed when listening to SU = and DOTU=20 frequently, CCM sounds like a pretty damn good song.. but after = listening to BMF=20 and earlier albums (And let's face it, BMF was perhaps one of the best = albums)=20 I'm am disgusted with CCM. It's weird, an ambigious feeling of loyalty = towards=20 Chris, but I get the feeling he's really losing his roots?

I know what I just said is = incoherent. Basically=20 I'm saying, listen to different types of SG before listening to CCM and = see how=20 you think of it then. This all ties in with the previous thread about = track=20 orders (By the way, I recommend listening to Outshined after New=20 Damage).

-Mansel

------=_NextPart_000_002A_01BEE8D1.1C3FBA60-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:01:47 +1000 From: Mansel Ismay Subject: Re: I wasn't going to say anything, but... 1) Do you want to know how to save RealAudio 5.0 the program or the actual file of flutter girl? Of the latter, just right click on the hyperlink for it and click on 'save target as' (Or something similar for Netscape users). Then pick a directory and bob's your uncle. 2.) Why not. It's not like SG really profit out of those video's anymore, we as their loyal and dedicated fans deserve the video's. BRING EM ON!! 3.) Depends upon mood (As I"m sure you'll all agree, the likeness of a particular SG song depends upon mood, due to the musical diversity). I usually would prefer Karaoke however. 4.) Yes, I've heard it. (no comment on it however) Now I've got a question: As I understand it most musicians are getting into the net, and I reckon Kim, being the SG member with the most time on his hands, should join the list !#@$! It would make things so cool. Anyway. -Mansel (Awaits the flame for his question) =P -----Original Message----- From: Bill Herrington To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 5:05 AM Subject: I wasn't going to say anything, but... >I don't think Dave Brenner (or anyone else) should be kicked off the list, >else unless they repeatedly ignore the mission of the list or start >attacking someone personally. It would help matters if people at least >tried to be civil. Flame-beggars should be ignored, and people who >aggressively express interesting opinions should be heard. We all walk >the line. > >Now here's a few things I've been thinking about: > >1) how do I save Real Audio 5.0 format so I can have a (mediocre) copy > of the new Flutter Girl? (yes I do like it mostly, and yes I must have > it for my archives regardless) > >2) What would everyone think about organizing a petition campaign to get > whoever owns SG's music videos to release an official comprehensive > collection? > >3) Which is the better non-album track: "Kyle Petty, Son of Richard" or > "Karyoke" ? > >4) Has anyone heard the alternate Rhinosaur version/mix on some CD single? > >Okay, sails failing for lack of wind. > >--- >Bill Herrington >billh@exit118.com >http://theranch.exit118.com > >Good Stuff: > http://slashdot.org/ > http://www.google.com/ > Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger > Kyuss - Sky Valley > Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:10:22 +1000 From: Mansel Ismay Subject: Re: BTW This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01BEE8D3.63F078C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey,=20 why not use an FTP or such to allow direct download? Or maybe post up a = new song each day on a web page or something. I've got about 5 meg free = on my ISP. Any takers? -Mansel ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01BEE8D3.63F078C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey,

why not use an = FTP or such=20 to allow direct download? Or maybe post up a new song each day on a web = page or=20 something. I've got about 5 meg free on my ISP. Any takers?

-Mansel

------=_NextPart_000_0083_01BEE8D3.63F078C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:46:26 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: Re: I wasn't going to say anything, but... >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:01:47 +1000 >Reply-To: Mansel Ismay >From: Mansel Ismay >Subject: Re: I wasn't going to say anything, but... >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > >1) Do you want to know how to save RealAudio 5.0 the program or the actual >file of flutter girl? Of the latter, just right click on the hyperlink for >it and click on 'save target as' (Or something similar for Netscape users). >Then pick a directory and bob's your uncle. >-Mansel I tried that but it only saves some kind of little pointer file, not the actual song :( I'm using IE 4.0 under Win95. Can anyone help? If somebody out there has managed to save the song and is willing to email it directly to me, go ahead and thanks in advance. Bill --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:05:30 -0500 From: Mike Liacone Subject: Wow, thanks for those MP3s Marc. Its a lot different than i expected. That "Wave Goodbye" is a real tear jerker. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:15:04 +0800 From: temple of the frog Subject: CCTV part two For those of you who aren't fed up with the new website just yet, I thought I'd let you know that the second Real Video installment is up now (I think those webpeople are finally getting their timing right). It's ok... not as ridiculous as the last one. At least Chris talks about the new record this time, and how it isn't acoustic like everyone thought it would be etc. ds ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 1980 20:35:18 -0400 From: Tom Gipson Subject: Re: I wasn't going to say anything, but... At 8/17/99 9:46:00 AM, you wrote: >>Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:01:47 +1000 >>Reply-To: Mansel Ismay >>From: Mansel Ismay >>Subject: Re: I wasn't going to say anything, but... >>To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >> >>1) Do you want to know how to save RealAudio 5.0 the program or the actual >>file of flutter girl? Of the latter, just right click on the hyperlink for >>it and click on 'save target as' (Or something similar for Netscape users). >>Then pick a directory and bob's your uncle. >>-Mansel > >I tried that but it only saves some kind of little pointer file, not the >actual >song :( I'm using IE 4.0 under Win95. Can anyone help? If somebody out >there >has managed to save the song and is willing to email it directly to me, go >ahead >and thanks in advance. > >Bill > >--- >Bill Herrington >billh@exit118.com >http://theranch.exit118.com > >Good Stuff: > http://slashdot.org/ > http://www.google.com/ > Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger > Kyuss - Sky Valley > Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else > > the song is streamed online, so there is no way to download the clip itself, that i know of anyway. -=t0m=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:46:24 EDT From: Mike Stevenson Subject: B-Sides on Ebay? eBay item 144921229 (Ends 08/17/99, 15:38:46 PDT) - SOUNDGARDEN - The B-Sides 2CD this isn't an official release is it? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:48:50 PDT From: Joe Franks Subject: There is a way Chris has an account at media.artistdirect.com/cornell/ thats where the real audio downloads come from if anyone wants to try and find the password be my guest. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:58:05 EDT From: Paul Nicholson Subject: love is suicide. hey all, i've been lurking on this list for a couple of days....you know, just to see what goes on....and now it's time to introduce myself; i'm paul, 18, in england. music i like, well...a lot of stuff, from wes montgomery, charlie parker, jeff buckley, dEUS, moondog jr, Nirvana, meat puppets, melvins, pumpkins, korn, slipknot, limp bizkit, fear factory, zappa, portishead, sonic youth.....most stuff that isn't mainstream....i'm not trying to make myself sound "cool" by claiming to be some kind of no-waver....but i find that most "mainstream" music is talentless, boring, 4-chord crap. and no, i don't think nirvana were mainstream. and no matter how far i venture in my musical tastes i always come back to bands like sonic youth, dEUS, beefheart, soundgarden, nirvana....i just feel they're the truest forms of music. unfortunately i haven't heard any of CC's new material...i don't have the gift of mtv, but i do have a few bootlegs to trade if anyone's interested (mail me). (and i'm an art student....i'm not pretentious on purpose). so, hey. paul ps, which came first, chris cornell singing "love's like suicide", or billy corgan singing "love is suicide"? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:03:20 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: I wasn't going to say anything, but... Bill Herrington wrote: > I tried that but it only saves some kind of little pointer file, not the > actual > song :( I'm using IE 4.0 under Win95. Can anyone help? If somebody out > there > has managed to save the song and is willing to email it directly to me, go > ahead > and thanks in advance. The reason you can't save the file is cause real player is made NOT to allow it. i emailed em once on it and they said that the reason you can't download a real audio file is cause that would be breaking the copyright laws and stuff. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:19:51 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: Re: I wasn't going to say anything, but... And while they're at it could they send it to me to, please? Robin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:00:21 +0200 From: badmotor Subject: Re: Flutter Girl This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01BEE8EB.234781C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Toni wrote: >>I have to say one thing about Flutter Girl. After listening to it a = dozen times I just have one vision that swims into my head. I picture = them recording it in a animated doo-dad factory. The assembly line stamping out little doo-dads as they = travel down the line in a certain rhythm with gears spinning and pistons = pumping. All the noises(swooshes and pings) in the back ground are just = so damn distracting and doo-dadish!! Gee! maybe that's an idea for the video. Chris the handsome factory = worker(well he'd have to wear a hair net to keep that hair out of the = doo-dads) daydreaming on the job about his fluttergirl....he loses his = concentration.....the press smashes his hand...BLOOD..... gore = everywhere......OH sorry that's a different band altogether!!! I think = they are recording Splattergirl!! toni >>> That was really funny!!! I laughed my ass off for few minutes!!! Thanks = Toni!!! Agata ps. any guesses bout "Can't Change Me" video? Anybody? ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01BEE8EB.234781C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Toni wrote:

>>I have to say one thing about = Flutter Girl.=20 After listening to it a dozen times I just have one vision that swims = into my=20 head. I picture them recording it in a animated
doo-dad factory. The = assembly=20 line stamping out little doo-dads as they travel down the line in a = certain=20 rhythm with gears spinning and pistons pumping. All the noises(swooshes = and=20 pings) in the back ground are just so damn distracting=20 and
doo-dadish!!
Gee! maybe that's an idea for the video. Chris = the=20 handsome factory worker(well he'd have to wear a hair net to keep that = hair out=20 of the doo-dads) daydreaming on the job about his fluttergirl....he = loses his=20 concentration.....the press smashes his=20 hand...BLOOD..... gore=20 everywhere......OH sorry that's a different band altogether!!! I think = they are=20 recording Splattergirl!! toni >>>

That was really funny!!! I laughed my = ass off for=20 few minutes!!! Thanks Toni!!!

Agata

ps. any guesses bout "Can't Change Me" = video?=20 Anybody?

------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01BEE8EB.234781C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:33:59 +0200 From: badmotor Subject: Re: Flutter Girl