From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 13 Aug 1999 to 14 Aug 1999 Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 2:01 AM There are 26 messages totalling 735 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Album cover (3) 2. touring 3. oh shut up already!! 4. FWD: For Those... (2) 5. Louder than Love and Screaming Life/Fopp 6. favorite songs on Louder Than Love 7. marketing 8. Cornucopia from the offical website.... (4) 9. favorite songs on Louder Than Love and on Screaming Life/Fopp (2) 10. Chris Cornell Speaks About Solo Life 11. Jeff Buckley Info. 12. The Album Cover 13. URGENT! 14. Wednesday's Digest 15. Skinny Chris (2) 16. Fwd: Skinny Chris 17. CCM Single? Japanese release dates.. 18. Chris Promotional Events? To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:11:08 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: Album cover Niki Freer wrote: > > the ever-great UKDeb writes: > > > http://www.rustycage.u-net.com/discography/emcover.jpg > > uhhh.... photoshop lense flare much? this is sinking, guys. like a rock. > > -mindriot It's an advanced copy of the CD, hence, shitty cover graphics. I have yet to see a cool cover for a promo item. Well, i'm wrong there. the cover of Rocket from the Crypt's newest album RFTC had a cool cover. hehehe But i got to agree with Nicki again, the artwork for this album, from a graphic standpoint is pretty sad. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 02:24:49 -0400 From: Graham Appleby Subject: Re: touring <> i'd say that screaming life was way clearer than that...and classier! Graham ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 04:24:58 EDT From: Kathleen Burrows Subject: oh shut up already!! listen folks-- cut your whining!!! i'm sihk of getting my mailbox filled up with crap about, "boohoo, chris isn't coming to my country/city" sorry folks!! he is only one man!!! deal with it!!! we all get jipped one time, or another. there's more important-- more tragic things going on in this world than to be preoccupied with superficial bullshit. peace, love, hope, faith, soup and s o u n d g a r d e n always groovy, kathleen : )) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:17:17 -0700 From: Sam Nethery Subject: FWD: For Those... ------------------Original Message-------------------- Well Monica, If you dont call SG a Metal band what do you call them? If they have come out a couple of years earlier, or came from another part of the world, they would be considered nothing but metal (except for maybe DotU), but because they unfortunately came out of Seatle at just the wrong time, they were thrown into this category of "grunge" or "alternative" or whatever. I can assept the lack of heaviness on TotD, but after hearing CCM I think Chris has gone soft, and that all these years in SG it was Kim who was the driving force behind the metal nature of the band. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Get YOUR Free E-mail at http://www.planetaccess.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:24:55 -0700 From: Sam Nethery Subject: Louder than Love and Screaming Life/Fopp Favourite songs on LTL are Get on the Snake and Loud Love, and Hands All Over when it is played live with American Woman at the end. On Screaming Life it is Hunted Down, and on Fopp it is Swallow My Pride (even if it is a Green River song). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Get YOUR Free E-mail at http://www.planetaccess.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:15:51 EDT From: Mike Stevenson Subject: Re: favorite songs on Louder Than Love My fav. song on Louder Than Love would have to be GUN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:19:35 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: FWD: For Those... >I can assept the lack of heaviness on TotD, but after hearing CCM I think Chris has gone soft, and that all these years in SG it was Kim who was the driving force behind the metal nature of the band. > Chris has written "soft" songs before DotU, and probably always will since he has range. I agree about Kim, though. Apparently the band recorded a version of Applebite that Kim liked better; it was much more guitar-oriented than the one that made the album. --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:26:58 +0800 From: stardust Subject: Re: marketing At 16:26 12/08/99 -0000, JC wrote: >Well actually I seem to vaguely remember a Q cover (or >similar mag) with Tori in barely anything. I think it >was just gold body paint or something? (someone help >me out here). yes it was Q (May '98 I think), and yes it was gold body paint. And to this day, if you mention that mag cover, she will blush like hell. But I think the point Mike was trying to make, was that if you're talented enough, you won't need to sell your music by plastering your sex-appeal on every front page. I'm sure Chris doesn't need this, but let's face it, it's been going on since early Soundgarden, and it won't stop now. I have piles of magazines with bare-chested Chris' (ok, and one of Matt in those famous briefs) and it's not like someone forced him to take that shirt off. Kim sure managed to keep his on all these years. I think the only difference to now is, that Chris seems either more comfortable with showing his face more or he's just sick of hiding all the time (just imho),which is why we're seeing all these "image"-shots. Either way, good for him. But geez... he just had to lose that self-consciousness now that his hair is all weird ;-) ds ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:49:09 -0600 From: Fluttergirl Subject: Cornucopia from the offical website.... On the official website, Friday's Cornucopia: "Can't Change Me", click here to read the lyrics of the 1st single from "Euphoria Morning." duh. I think most people could have found the lyrics on the site already. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:06:12 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Re: Cornucopia from the offical website.... >On the official website, Friday's Cornucopia: > >"Can't Change Me", click here to read the lyrics of the 1st single from >"Euphoria Morning." > >duh. I think most people could have found the lyrics on the site already. This brings me to an important point. The official Chris Cornell website sucks. With the exception of the fact it has direct communication with the man himself, its just another fansite. OK, a new MP3 and a short little 30 sec RealVideo clip, the rest of the stuff could have been discovered by people like Deb or someone. And I mean, everything is late, this so-called "newsletter" doesn't exist and the content is basically press releases. Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:17:38 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: Re: Cornucopia from the offical website.... >>duh. I think most people could have found the lyrics on the site already. >people like Deb or someone. And I mean, everything is late, this so-called >"newsletter" doesn't exist and the content is basically press releases. > >Dave No doubt. If they're advertising something as being up on Tuesday, they shouldn't wait until evening to post the new content. --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:23:03 -0500 From: Mike Liacone Subject: Re: Cornucopia from the offical website.... It's hardly new content. I read about CC stealing Beatles albums about 9 years ago. And to take other parts of the site and call them "new" cuz its a different link, is pathetic. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Herrington To: Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 11:17 AM Subject: Re: Cornucopia from the offical website.... > >>duh. I think most people could have found the lyrics on the site already. > > >people like Deb or someone. And I mean, everything is late, this so-called > >"newsletter" doesn't exist and the content is basically press releases. > > > >Dave > > No doubt. If they're advertising something as being up on Tuesday, they > shouldn't > wait until evening to post the new content. > > --- > Bill Herrington > billh@exit118.com > http://theranch.exit118.com > > Good Stuff: > http://slashdot.org/ > http://www.google.com/ > Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger > Kyuss - Sky Valley > Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:29:49 -0400 From: Tom Gipson Subject: Re: favorite songs on Louder Than Love and on Screaming Life/Fopp on louder than love- ugly truth and power trip on screaming life- nothing to say and hand of god on fopp- swallow my pride. these albums kick ass alright, but the best is ultramega ok. i like every song on that album (as i do on most sg albums). -=t0m=- p.s. there's this really cool new band called The 4sum 5sum. you should check them out! http://www.angelfire.com/mo/4sum5sum ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:00:16 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Chris Cornell Speaks About Solo Life http://www.mtv.com/news/headlines/990812/story14.html -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:48:45 -0700 From: Vikki Anselmo Subject: Jeff Buckley Info. >From spin.com: Sources for the late Jeff Buckley indicate that a new live album may be in the works (Buckley's pre-Grace disc, Live at Sin-e remains a cult fave). Live Buckley sound board DATS, circa 1994, have been recently recovered and are currently being listened to by Buckley's old backing band (who will likely produce the project). A January 2,000 release date is being kicked around. In other Buckley news, a French film company is currently prepping a documentary on the artist for Paris-based ARTE Television. The one hour project, directed by Don Kent, will air in Europe before year's end. --------------- Although Spin doesn't mention that Chris will be involved in either project, ya never know. -Vikki :) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:24:38 -0700 From: Vikki Anselmo Subject: The Album Cover The promo album cover that I saw at the PAWS benefit dinner was a black and white photo of Chris on an antique bed. The perfectly made bed was facing the camera. Chris was sitting in full profile on the left side of the bed, slumped deep at the waist with his feet planted firmly on the floor. A large, perturbed black cat sat behind him, occupying the foot of the right side of the bed. The room had the decorative character of a time period long gone by, which made Chris seem out of place with his modern hairstyle, sleeveless white T-shirt and designer black leather pants. The room had a guest room feel, only it seemed that no one had visited in a long while. The picture wasn't sensual or sexual. It was...quiet. It seemed as if Chris had wandered into the room in the early morning, looking for a pensive place to absorb or reflect on something. The cat seemed annoyed at the intrusion. The first thought that came to my mind was, "Are those really black leather pants?" ;-) The second thing that came to mind was, "Euphoria Morning? He doesn't look too happy." I thought about my first night in Seattle after I left New York. I didn't go out. I didn't call anybody. I was proud of my choice to move, but saddened by what I had left behind. I sat quietly for hours in an attempt to absorb the reality of the new life I had chosen. I pictured Chris walking into the antique room after finishing his solo album. Soundgarden represented the antique room. Chris was his new self. An we, as Soundgarden fans, were the pissed off cat. The image made me smile. -Vikki :) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 00:09:11 GMT From: The Koggle Subject: URGENT! Hello! Attention twistedfork list members.. please do not post to the list for awhile. I just checked my mail and i got over 300 error messages all averaging 30K in size... I REPEAT.. do not post to twisted fork list.. BILL FLANDERS WHERE ARE YOU?!? (deleting mail probably! or he probably had his account deleted) I can't read the error messages as hotmail has a built in thing that doesn't allow messages to be read when the inbox is over 10000K in size.. so who knows what will happen to it.. akjfakljehrlkjahdflkh BYE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:30:50 EDT From: Niki Freer Subject: Re: Album cover Andrew writes: > Well, i'm wrong there. the > cover of Rocket from the Crypt's newest album RFTC had a cool cover. > hehehe ok i think i got it! andrew is leading a double life! Known as AS on Somms, secretly he's RFTC's publicist. come on, admit it andrew. you know you are. :) -mindriot ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:37:29 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Re: Album cover >Andrew writes: > > > Well, i'm wrong there. the > > cover of Rocket from the Crypt's newest album RFTC had a cool cover. > > hehehe > > >ok i think i got it! andrew is leading a double life! Known as AS on Somms, >secretly he's RFTC's publicist. come on, admit it andrew. you know you are. >:) > Naw..andy's not the publicist. If he is, then I'm their tour manager. :) But it seems that there are people on SOMMS that love the band :) Like me. And Andrew. And there's others I bet :) RFTC's album cover did kick ass. CKROA everyone...CKROA....hahahaha :) Run From The Caves! Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:56:50 +1000 From: Mansel Ismay Subject: Re: favorite songs on Louder Than Love and on Screaming Life/Fopp Ugly Truth, Hunted Down -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Lawhon To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Friday, August 13, 1999 4:34 AM Subject: favorite songs on Louder Than Love and on Screaming Life/Fopp >What is your favorite songs from Louder Than Love and on Screaming Life/Fopp. > > > D.J. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:17:23 -0600 From: The Opon Family Subject: Wednesday's Digest I'm sorry to send this to the list, but last I checked the archives hadn't been updated since mid-July. Could someone who is on digest please forward me a copy of Wednesday's digest. Apparently my server was screwed up that morning and must have bounced it back. Thanks. Favorites: Screaming Life/FOPP - Hand of God and Entering Louder Than Love - Uncovered and Ugly Truth. I also love Power Trip - never fails to make me smile. This was the album that introduced me to Soundgarden (I saw them for the very first time on Headbangers Ball shortly before this one was released) so I must admit it holds a special place in my heart :) Kathie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:34:24 EDT From: Barry White Subject: Skinny Chris Man!!! I know Chris has always been pretty thin, but is his most recent pictures, he almost looks sickly. Anyone else notice this? How much would you say the guy weighs? Concerned for Chris... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:42:25 EDT From: Nick Murphy Subject: Fwd: Skinny Chris --part1_b148f47b.24e63fa1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree. They recently showed a small clip of him on mtv news. He looked much more skinney then he did a wile ago. --part1_b148f47b.24e63fa1_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from aol.com (rly-zc01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.1]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v60.25) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:36:18 -0400 Received: from LIME.EASE.LSOFT.COM (lime.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.1.41]) by rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (v60.25) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:36:04 -0400 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by LIME.EASE.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <14.002E5BF7@LIME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:34:02 -0400 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV release 1.8c) with NJE id 6432 for SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:35:49 -0400 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with BSMTP id 6232; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:35:01 -0400 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:35:00 EDT X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by imo27.mx.aol.com Received: from Cornell90@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id aMCBa01404 (3975) for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:34:24 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Message-ID: <8aa49d9.24e63dc0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:34:24 EDT Reply-To: Cornell90@aol.com From: Barry White Subject: Skinny Chris To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Man!!! I know Chris has always been pretty thin, but is his most recent pictures, he almost looks sickly. Anyone else notice this? How much would you say the guy weighs? Concerned for Chris... --part1_b148f47b.24e63fa1_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:33:49 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Re: Skinny Chris >Man!!! > I know Chris has always been pretty thin, but is his most recent >pictures, he almost looks sickly. Anyone else notice this? How much would >you >say the guy weighs? > Maybe he's hooked up to heroin. I know *I* am :) Who cares? Geez, Its probably nothing. I personally don't want to get into a stupid anorexic or weight issue. Chris is Chris. Leave him be. Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:07:16 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: CCM Single? Japanese release dates.. Hey y'all, I was at my local music store, and asked if I could order the latest from Chris (I'm such a badass :)) and the girl said the following points of interest.. * Euphoria Morning will be released in Japan on September 7 (or 8th) and is available through the JPT Distro company. It is also over $40 Canadian. I wonder since Japanese imports sometimes have different songs and/or more songs, as this is about $20 more to import. Just food for thought, and also for people bidding over $100 for it on ebay, save $60 will ya? Someone try to get more info on this.. * Don't expect the single to be released anytime soon. Or the video. If the director just got announced, odds are they're making the sets, finising scripts, filming, editing, and shipping it out, and that takes around 2 weeks. Also, the girl said that the single is usually released a month after the song hits radio to increase "hype". I gotta say that Chris' people have actually gotten a pretty good marketing team on them. Big MP3 release, heavy radio play, magazine articles...the whole 9 yards.. Me now. Any one given any thought to the b-side of CCM? Is it going to be a track for the album, or an unreleased track? I vote for a existing track, as the same thing was done for Part 1 of Pretty Noose, with Applebite, An Unkind and the kicker, an interview with Natasha. Speaking of which, there could be a part 1 & 2 of CCM. Its been done, and with the smart marketing team on Chris' side, he'll want to leech all the money from us die-hards as possible. I'm out. Maybe someone will start a thread with this info, rather than me getting a couple replys of "Exactly my thoughts!". I like it, but contribute something to the list, that's what its for, and if its not redundant, then let all share! Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:25:36 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Chris Promotional Events? Hey y'all, Sorry to post again so soon, but I was reading something and it caught my eye. Apparantly, the new TV season starts September 20-25. Chris' new album comes out the 21st in US/Can. Now, I'm guessing that a lot of people are going to tune in this first week for pilots, epidodes of Friends, ER and the networks keep their viewers (hopefully) for the late night talk shows. I know this was mentioned a while ago about Chris doing talk shows while in NY, but would this be a perfect time to book him on the triple threat of Rosie/Regis and Kathie/Letterman? All three would have no qualms about having Chris over, but we all know from the past that SG doesn't enjoy doing talk show appearances. Is this the same for Chris? Would he be pushed into doing this by that sleazy pimpish manager Jimmy? I'd like to hear your thoughts, if there are anyone willing to comment. Not only does this talk about Chris, but also how the media manipulates people towards biased views...in case he is a heroin addict :) j/k Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 13 Aug 1999 to 14 Aug 1999 ************************************************