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Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 2:00 AM

There are 19 messages totalling 871 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Aarrgh
  2. <no subject>
  3. I've thought of a fourthly, and a fifthly, and a sixthly... (4)
  4. ?
  5. Pics of Chris (3)
  6. Tab
  7. what the ?????
  8. Just go ahead and guess (THIS IS NOT A FLAME) (2)
  9. irc channel
 10. The Song
 11. ooopps!!
 12. cut the crap / what's it all mean? (2)

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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:05:57 -0700
From:    Andrew Snodgrass <asnod@HOME.COM>
Subject: Re: Aarrgh

"J.C." wrote:
> So what you're saying is that YOU don't think YOU are
> right then.  Okay then, we're in agreement, I don't
> think you're right either.

When did i ever say that i think i'm right, and right about what did i
say i was right about??? All i did was state what has been said in all
the interviews dick.


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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 04:13:58 -0500
From:    Joe Corroney <jcorroney@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: <no subject>

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>From: Khyaati Singh <superdrago@home.com>
>To: Joe Corroney <jcorroney@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: can't change me
>Date: Sun, Aug 8, 1999, 12:00 AM
>

>oh....fyi...after having gone through my email....it looks like i have
>about 2 letters "flaming" me.....and 7 thanking me....on that
>note....i've got two words for you....suck it....jack-off

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>From: Khyaati Singh <superdrago@home.com>
>To: Joe Corroney <jcorroney@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: can't change me
>Date: Sat, Aug 7, 1999, 11:52 PM
>

>you know what pal....you're a fucking jerk...what gives you the right to
>tell me that what i have to say is not worth the same grain of salt as
>your two cents....get a fucking sense of morality you asshole....there
>is a LOT of shit that gets posted on this list that is very
>irrelevant....and just in case you get offended by
>this....remember...you are the one who attacked me first....so fuck
>you....and i've already issued an appology....i was just trying to be
>helpful....so take your head out of your ass and go fuck yourself you
>dumbass fuck.....


Mr. Singh

    This is why i posted to you personally and didn't flame you in the open
on the somms list. You force me to make an example of you and your actions.
      I do admit i came off a little harsh in my response to your post (with
your LARGE attachment) and I realize your intentions were good, but they
were also sophmoric, unnecessary, and more importantly in violaton to the
rules of the list. The problem really wasn't your inane commentary or your
usual multiple repetitive posts (case in point: read above) that initally
bothered me. What pissed me off was that you ASSUMED (which makes an ass out
of you and me) that we all needed our mail servers stuffed with the your
3000k file. I had important work online i needed to get out and  other
messages to receive...of which i couldn't get to thanks to your mail. I am
very positive that more than TWO people disliked the idea of an hour
download of their mail only to find out someone sent them a mp3 file of
which they probally already downloaded for themselves.
    Though i do realize you're a newer member to the list so i won't drop to
your level of vocabulary and moronic attitude. The point i really wanted to
stress was to make sure you READ the rules of the list before posting ever
again. I've been a memeber of this list for two years and i'm actually
surprised you recieved only two emails bringing this to your attention. I
really hope the other email "flaming" you was from Seth or otherwise the
little bit of structure and regulation we do have on this list is
deteriorating.
    I'm sorry...i harrassed your...freedom of...speech...and the way
your...posts drive me...crazy...(couldn't resist the sarcasm) but i WON'T
apoligize for your being made an example for what NOT to do on this list.
    And i would really appreciate that you never do it again even if 7 or 70
people send you thank-you's for your gesture. I like being on this list and
have remained relatively quiet and restrained in the past but your message
and attachment slowed my work this evening and i didn't join this list to
have it become a hindrance to my schedule. I'm sorry if i'm one of the few
on this list that have the balls to speak up when they are (majorly)
inconvienenced by someone and if these kind of posts persist i would
(unfortunately) like Seth to remove me from the list.
    I made a few freinds on this list and would miss their chat and
comraderie. But it seems more and more these days this list is being crowded
with people who don't follow the rules  and usually post rubbish not even
pertaining to any aspect of Soundgarden or just plain music in general (as
does this email i realize and i sincerely apologize to the ENTIRE list for
this post especially if they are  reading this thus far). Perhaps you should
consider apologizing 'privately', not to me since i am not interested in
your apology and don't really expect you to save face anyway, but to whoever
else notified you that you had inconvienced them (if you haven't already).
By the way, i sent you my "flame" long before you publicly apologized to the
list so please don't make it look like i 'attacked' you after the fact just
because your upset. We both know this to be true.

Good evening-
Joe

P.S. "...suck it...jack-off" is four words. Learn to count (and perhaps
structure coherent sentences).

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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:13:05 -0700
From:    Andrew Snodgrass <asnod@HOME.COM>
Subject: Re: I've thought of a fourthly, and a fifthly, and a sixthly...

"J.C." wrote:
>
> Then I read about how many of you others love the
> song.  I'm glad for you, I'm jealous of you, but I
> can't believe you feel that way.

Ohhh... I'm sorry. i didn't know everyone was to feel the same was as
Mr. Important JC. Ok, everyone forget how much you like Can't Change Me
and now we all got to hate it cause JC doesn't agree with us. If you do
continue to like the song you will forever be banished from ever posting
on the list cause he is all high and mighty and we got to fully agree
with him on his decisions.


I really hate when people try to force their opinions on others. You we
have heard you don't like the song and you think Chris is a sell out
because it's not what YOU wanted the song to sound like. (HEY CHRIS...
IF YOU ARE ON THIS LIST... GO RE-RECORD THE SONG AND ALBUM CAUSE JC
DON'T LIKE IT YOU SELL OUT). I'm done with you. Good night.


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|---------------------------------------------------------------|
| "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock!   |
|  Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass!               |
|  Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good.     |
|  And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!"                 |
|                                                               |
|       - Wesley Willis                                         |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|

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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:36:48 +1000
From:    Mansel Ismay <manseli@BIGPOND.COM>
Subject: ?

Hey,
Has anyone heard of a band called Soundgarden? Or a guy called Chris =
Cornell? I seriously recommend it.. it's the best music I've ever heard. =
You may recall they had this one major hit in '94 (A song called Black =
Hole Sun) and a few others... their drummer is doing some work with =
Pearl Jam, and Chris is just about to release this new solo album... I =
seriously recommend that whatever you're doing now, stop it and go get =
some Soundgarden.
-Mansel

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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:19:30 +1000
From:    Mansel Ismay <manseli@BIGPOND.COM>
Subject: Pics of Chris

Does anyone thinks those pics of Chris (And upcoming pics) look ridiculously corny? They make me laugh... It's soooo marketed.
-Mansel

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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 19:19:39 +0800
From:    Raven Nation <killyrbf@TEAMMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: I've thought of a fourthly, and a fifthly, and a sixthly...

eyh..hey..yeh,

<<< -----Original Message-----
    From: "J.C." <solipsist79@YAHOO.COM>
    Sent: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:25:18 -0700

    There are tons of songs out there
    that sound like this already >>>

mind listing some of these songs? maybe some other sommsters will
agree, then again, some will surely won't.

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Date:    Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:50:55 +1200
From:    Adrian Humphrey <humad571@STUDENT.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject: Tab

On a less bitchy note, and to completely deviate from the current division
in the ranks of the SOMMSters, does anyone have SG tab. I've got a bit but
I'd quite like to get some more.
And thanks to everyone for the help with the fork - who would have though
heat + metal = softer metal?? (I mean this in a serious way - I never
thought of it and am quite ashamed to call myself a fan).

Adrian

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Date:    Sat, 8 Aug 1981 11:22:22 -0400
From:    Marc Potvin <marcpotvin@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Subject: what the ?????

Hi all!!

First off, I didn't appreciate being forced into downloading the song
(somebody sent the thing to the list) especially since I already had it.
With the super-slow connection I'm stuck with, I couldn't do anything for a
while when it downloaded.

Heard the song.  It's short!  I still can't make up my mind about it though.
I surely don't like it as much as other songs he wrote, but I think it's not
half bad.  Chris seems to aim for a sound like "The Tea Party", but comes
short in my opinion.  Still good though.

I'll wait for the album to forge a complete opinion.  As a single, "Can't
change me" doesn't really "change me"!  But maybe it'll blend real well in
the album.  We'll see.

September 21st will be a good day : Chris Cornell and Our Lady Peace.

Anyone else heard the new Days Of the New single?  Pretty disappointing huh?
I can't wait for this wave of programmed drums and keyboards to die down a
bit.

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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:40:22 -0500
From:    Mike Jones <mijones@AIRMAIL.NET>
Subject: Just go ahead and guess (THIS IS NOT A FLAME)

Well, I know everyone and their grandma's dog has a vehement opinion
regarding THE song, and some are getting rather forceful about it,
expecting the second coming with some single, and getting pissed when
jesus doesn't actually appear on their screen in a too-too and thong
bikini when they're listening to the mp3. THEN, to top it all off, they
get even more pissed off when other people like it. Well I have one
thing to say to those people:

FUCK YOU. MUSIC IS COMPLETELY UP TO INTREPETATION.

It's just ONE song from just ONE man from ONE album, okay?!?!?!? Myself,
I listened to it over and over again, kind of tilting my head, trying to
form an opinion. Finally, about 1:30 last night, I plugged in the
headphones, closed my eyes, and turned it up reeealy loud, and just
basically meditated while listening to it, and I formed an opinion. I
love it. Yes it's slick, but it's still sincere. Yes, it's
radio-friendly, but it's so different from anything else on the radio. I
consider it a mix of several of Chris's influences. It has the Jeff
Buckley-ish feel of blending genres and styles (the eastern sounding
guitar riff), and the sing-alongable, pleasant feel of an experimental
Beatles song. The lyrics are scratching the surface of his emotions but
still hold merit or value when looked at from certain points of view.
No, its not the best song in the fucking world, but it is a really good
one, and for some reason I can't seem to get sick of it. Just please,
try not to hold it up to some kind of arbritary standards that he
himself wanted to get away from (the holy sg standard), and just listen
to the song without hope or want of some kind of life-changing
experience. Then if you still don't like it, fine. Don't buy the album,
just bitch about how bad the single is and pout in the dark. I'm done,
I'm gone.

jacob

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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 14:37:11 -0700
From:    alexandre nanoglou <alexkickstand@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: irc channel

hi you can go on IRC  on a new channel #chriscornell







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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:41:09 GMT
From:    The Koggle <koggle@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Pics of Chris

>Does anyone thinks those pics of Chris (And upcoming pics) look
>ridiculously corny? They make me laugh... It's soooo marketed.
>-Mansel
>

I think he looks hot.. marketed or not! WOOOO baby!! hehehhehe

Koggle


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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:04:32 GMT
From:    The Koggle <koggle@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Just go ahead and guess (THIS IS NOT A FLAME)

Hey all

>Well, I know everyone and their grandma's dog has a vehement opinion
>regarding THE song, and some are getting rather forceful about it,
>expecting the second coming with some single, and getting pissed when
>jesus doesn't actually appear on their screen in a too-too and thong
>bikini when they're listening to the mp3.

This is true.. expectations have been made. Realities are hitting home. But
how can you say the above and then say in the next breath:

>Myself,
>I listened to it over and over again, kind of tilting my head, trying to
>form an opinion. Finally, about 1:30 last night, I plugged in the
>headphones, closed my eyes, and turned it up reeealy loud, and just
>basically meditated while listening to it, and I formed an opinion. I
>love it.

This sounds extremely forced.. you imply how bad it is to be 'rather
forceful'. Sounds to me like you're doing exactly what you don't think
others should be doing. Like you stayed up late.. made yourself listen to
the song in the hopes that something magical would happen. Then when you
Finally 'formed an opinion' you can say "I love it"? after "trying" to form
an opinion? give me a break.. What else do you "love"?!

I agree with all you said. Music is up to interpretation.. it really is just
one song in the history of music, but don't contradict yourself..

>just listen
>to the song without hope or want of some kind of life-changing
>experience. Then if you still don't like it, fine. Don't buy the album,
>just bitch about how bad the single is and pout in the dark. I'm done,
>I'm gone.

Sounds like what psychologists say is true. If you make a huge fuss about
something, you most likely have a problem with it yourself. I think you were
the one 'pouting in the dark' here.. I think you were the one who hoped for
a life-changing experience. The question is, do you still not like it? Do
you believe that you shouldn't buy the album because you're having trouble
getting past the first single?

I see it like this.. if you care enough about this song to write to the list
about your experiences with it, why do you need to write to tell other
people they should feel the same way? "MUSIC IS UP TO INTERPRETATION"
remember? Does that mean we should all be quiet about how we feel about it?
Maybe.. but this list is about discussion and i believe any comments are
valid.. But coming out all defensive, shooting anyone down who may not see
it your way is wrong..

I reeaaaallllly hope it's not like this for every goddamn song on the
album.... heheheh

later
koggle


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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:21:15 -0500
From:    vader <vader@I1.NET>
Subject: The Song

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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:41:02 -0700
From:    "J.C." <solipsist79@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: I've thought of a fourthly, and a fifthly, and a sixthly...

>     There are tons of songs out there
>     that sound like this already >>>
>
> mind listing some of these songs? maybe some other
> sommsters will
> agree, then again, some will surely won't.


Heh heh.  You HAD to call me on that didn't you.

Well I would have thought it was obvious.  Doesn't it
basically follow the basic format of pop rock that was
defined by the Beatles nearly 40 years ago?

Thinking of other people around at the moment doing
that sort of thing, Ben Folds Five I already
mentioned.  Supergrass is one.  Manic Street Preachers
maybe.  It has a sort of Britpop sound to it don't cha
think?

I don't know, it's impossible to get someone who
sounds EXACTLY the same.  But it's not a new style.
Not even slightly.

I guess when I was reading Chris's comments about how
he wanted to do different things, I thought he meant
different from what everyone else is doing as well.
But Can't Change Me is pretty old hat style wise.  I
was expecting to be hit by something revolutionary, I
guess I was expecting too much.

Having time to think about it it though, it does make
the album seem intriguing (if it wasn't all ready).  I
assume he will continue to try different styles (for
him), and while I don't consider Can't Change Me a
success myself, I'm sure that some of what he tries,
hopefully most, *will* be a success.  If it's a whole
album of simple pop tunes like this though, I won't be
shy about expressing my dissapointment.

Can't Change Me is a bad song.  It just, seems,
insubstantial.

Jay.





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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:52:38 -0700
From:    "J.C." <solipsist79@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: I've thought of a fourthly, and a fifthly, and a sixthly...

> Ohhh... I'm sorry. i didn't know everyone was to
> feel the same was as
> Mr. Important JC. Ok, everyone forget how much you
> like Can't Change Me
> and now we all got to hate it cause JC doesn't agree
> with us. If you do
> continue to like the song you will forever be
> banished from ever posting
> on the list cause he is all high and mighty and we
> got to fully agree
> with him on his decisions.

Really Andrew, all this praise isn't at all necessary.
 I'm a humble man, I know I'm great, I really don't
need to be told.  Calm yourself.


> I really hate when people try to force their
> opinions on others.

Do you know what irony is Andrew?  Or maybe hypocrisy?

I seem to remember this all started with me posting to
the list about my dispointment with the song, a
sentiment which I know many people share, and then
*you* lept on me trying to tell me how wrong *I* was
and how *I* wasn't getting it.

Can I ask you?  Am I allowed not to like the song?
Because if it's against any laws I'll happily say I
love it.  I'd hate to cause any trouble.


Jay.


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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 19:02:46 -0700
From:    "J.C." <solipsist79@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: ooopps!!

> Can't Change Me is a bad song.  It just, seems,
> insubstantial.

Oh my god!  What a terrible typo.  What I MEANT to say
was:

Can't Change Me is **NOT** a bad song.  It just,
seems,
insubstantial.
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Date:    Mon, 9 Aug 1999 02:41:50 GMT
From:    The Koggle <koggle@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: cut the crap / what's it all mean?

In my opinion, no song can be exactly the same as another.. Unless they are
very talented, no band can achieve the exact same sound as another band.
Look at cover songs.. while all have their distinct similarities (lyrics,
basic tune), look at the huge differences. Sure, it's true some bands use
covers to enhance their quirks/personalities..

The same can be said for genres of music. They're only part of the genre
they're in (ie. pop, rock, grunge) because someone said they should be. I
mean, is Shania Twain really all that country & western? But can you
classify albums and albums of songs into one genre?? Shouldn't all
bands/singers have the oppurtunity to display an array of musical talents??

I know you're thinking "so what's your point" (cos i sort of am too..
hehe).. and it comes back to Chris and Can't Change Me. Some of you don't
like it.. you don't like it because you think it's shallow sounding pop.. to
another's ears it's a deep emotional ballad.. who is to say who's right or
wrong?

Out of curiosity, Jay.. what makes Can't Change Me sound like Britpop?

He says "caaaan't" not "carn't" like I do (and britpop people do). You've
lost me with that comparison..

How many styles does Chris really have to choose from without alienating his
current fanbase, hating the music himself and really attempting something he
can't do the best (some of you would chime in "Ave Maria" here).

He IS doing different things. You don't hear harmonies like that in
Soundgarden songs.. you don't get such a distinct change in sound in a
Soundgarden song.. (i'm sure you could throw a few examples at me, but i
think what Soundgarden was doing was *different* too).. If you make music
"different from everyone else", does that mean you have to sing in a
different language? Sing out of key? Sing faster or slower?

Basically: What do you want from the poor guy??

"Can't Change Me is old hat".. hmm your attitude is starting to piss me off.
Regardless that you have a negative opinion about this song, you're getting
on my nerves. So you don't like the song.. we all know you don't, can you
just.. uhh shut up about it?

If it's so OLD HAT and you think there's so much more he could do.. why the
fuck don't you go out and record a single and make millions? sheesh.. Or
better yet, write a nice little note to the man himself and state your
opinions. I'm sure he'll be really understanding..

>Can't Change Me is a bad song.  It just, seems,
>insubstantial.

Fair enough.. can we get back to the good qualities of it now, then??

I've had it on loop ('Loop Forever' eheh kind of a committment there) for
awhile today and i'm not tired of it yet. I have heard it enough times to be
thinking of the lyrics way too deeply - as usual. Is it a huge amount of
respect for the woman? or a brush off "she can't change me" like.. stubborn
about being himself, no matter what she does to try and change him.
When he says "no she can't... change.. me" his tone sounds like, well she
won't give up trying to make me how she wants me to be so that's it. I'm sad
about it, but she *cannot* change me, so i'm outta here.

What about "she's going to change the world".. it's like he thinks so much
of this girl. She's going to change everything.. revolutionary.. could it be
about Susan? She can do anything at all.. anythign she pleases. what could
she want with me? (just a lowly musician hehe)

I don't know what Susan is like, but i wonder if she is the type of person
that is successful in most of the things she does - professional and
personal. ("she has the daylight at her command.. she gives the night it's
dreams") Maybe she has the habit of taking control over everything and
knowing it in such detail that she could do it backwards, or read thoughts
and habits well enough to know the person inside out.. ("she can uncover
your darkest fear and make you forget you feel it") and when she came across
Chris ("I can see that she's trying to read me.. suddenly i know.."), she
tried to do the same to him, but she'd met her match. He couldn't be
controlled like that..

"Suddenly i can see everything that's wrong with me" is that because she's
practically perfect, or because she has delved into his psyche and got all
the dirt out.. "What can i do? I'm the only thing i really am" - cute thing
to say. I'll have to remember to use that one. It's like.. he knows all his
flaws, but what can he do?

Notice the little bridge part "wait just.. one minute here, i can see that
she's trying to _____ me" (no crudeness please hehe)
First part is "read", second is "free", the third is either "leave" or
"lead".. but either way she's seen him, analysed him and his personality,
released all the problems he has ("what can i do?" he says, but she was only
*trying* to free him..) and she either wants him to be with her, or she's
confused by his reaction to her regular routine (of analysing and
overwhelming people - changing them) and is freaked out.. He isn't about to
be changed by this girl, as much as he respects her.

In that case, it could be about an old girlfriend. She was nice, but he
couldn't handle her controlling nature..

What do you think about this? Those who hate interpretations, give the
obsessives a break ;)

Okay i really should be studying.. later all

Kogg


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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:10:12 PDT
From:    Dave George-Cosh <wellwaterc@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: cut the crap / what's it all mean?

Hey y'all,

Dave here to pump up his muscles and post to the list :).

First thing, Koggle, you've got the knack for interps :) I love that. And
yours raises some questions, like, is it meant for Susan or a former,
dominating girlfriend Chris can't get out of his mind. If that is the case,
does Susan know the truth? How does she feel? Certainly some of Chris'
lyrics contain something about her...I wonder how she feels. I've never had
a song written about myself, so I don't know..has anyone on the list have a
song written about them? How did you feel? Maybe we can understand what
Susan may be going through.

Second, JC, shut up. You have too many people flaming you and you're just
repeating yourself. Also, don't bother replying to me and don't bother
sending redundantness to the list please.

Thirdly, you know the part when Chris goes, "Suddenly I know.." that, quiet,
yet, reverb-ly sound that's made. That sound was used A LOT during the DOTU
sessions. Examples are Applebite, BUTOW, Karaoke (classic example), An
Unkind (I believe, off the top of my head). So, we know that SG produced
DOTU, and Chris uses this technique during CCM, sooooooo therefore, I think
its safe to say that Chris likes doing this. He doesn't repeat a lot of
stuff in his music, but I've noticed recently that he's doing this a lot. I
wonder why...

Fourthy, this was brought up a while ago, but I just want to comment on
Chris being a target for teenie-boppers. I may nail the coffin shut on this
one. Being a convience store worker for a while (don't laugh now...:)), I
help set up the magazines in the store. While not reading stuff on men's
health, tabloids, and my favourite trio of Maxim, Stuff and Entertainment
Weekly, there's the teenie-bop mags. Now, we have the Jane with Chris in it.
Outside Jane, there is no mention of an interview with him, but just a
little "Ben Stiller" note. Now, don't get me wrong, but Chris does have an
excellent marketing team, and if they were trying to go for the teenie-bop
route, wouldn't they pull for a "Chris Cornell" caption on the cover? True,
Ben Stiller sells mags more than Chris, but if they want to start something,
a little nice "Chris Cornell" note would be sufficient. So, also being a
former marketing student, there's a very little chance I believe that Chris
is aimed at the 11-18 female demographic. May I have my paper graded now,
Professsor? :)

See ya tomorrow, or not. If I do post something, I will be under the
influence of alcohol, heavy alcohol, so smile and nod if I do :)

Dave
- With Summmaaahtaahmmee..in the vawwwwwwwwwddd...
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Date:    Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:53:30 -0500
From:    Amy <a5b215@IAMERICA.NET>
Subject: Re: Pics of Chris

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> This is Chris at his full potential.
>
I disagree with you there.  He's can do so much better.  I'm sure the album will be better, though.  *knocks on wood*  I have the
utmost faith that it will.  I'm just overly superstitious.


> hmm your attitude is starting to piss me off.
> Regardless that you have a negative opinion about this song, you're getting
> on my nerves. So you don't like the song.. we all know you don't, can you
> just.. uhh shut up about it?
>
He probably would if people would stop throwing hissy fits every time he says something.

> Does anyone thinks those pics of Chris (And upcoming pics) look ridiculously corny? They make me laugh... It's soooo marketed.

I find them disturbing.  He looks like he's been traumatized in some way.

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I disagree with you there.&nbsp; He's can do so much better.&nbsp; I'm
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