From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 29 Jul 1999 to 30 Jul 1999 Date: Friday, July 30, 1999 2:01 AM There are 42 messages totalling 2021 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Days of the New (6) 2. Carbon 14 and House of Blues with Chris 3. Hello (2) 4. Is it getting hotter in here? (2) 5. is that supposed to be a defense? (2) 6. My Thoughts on flames, DOTN, SG Content (2) 7. send me your artworks 8. oi somms 9. Marta & Carmen searching 10. listening recommendation 11. Irrelevance (3) 12. Excuse me.... (2) 13. What if you went deaf? (4) 14. Everybody just shut up! 15. Indeed... (2) 16. hmm... (2) 17. Everybody just shut up! + GAMES,GAMES,GAMES! 18. for the sake of the argument. 19. This post has SG content (i promise!!) (2) 20. goodbye somms 21. Yes, but... (3) 22. Rocket From The motha fuckin Crypt (sg content to follow) To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:23:28 EDT From: Sarah Bucolic Subject: Re: Days of the New In a message dated 7/29/99 6:01:57 AM !!!First Boot!!!, LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes: << > > >P.S Has anyone heard of a band called Days of the New? I recommend them, >if you like AIC. > > > >I have. They're very, how do I put this, bad. Who sings a song about a >shelf in a room?? I prefer the mastermind songwriting and musicianship >talents of the SG boys. Travis Meeks pales in comparison... > >Adrian. Well everyones entitled to their own oppinion....but when I first saw the vid for Touch Peel and Stand I thought they were Sg wanabees...but then I got the album and their nothing alike.... Get the album and read the lyrics and you'll know its not as simple as just singing about a shelf in the room..... Travis doesn't even like SG or AIC anyway -Liz >> I went to see Days of the New in concert and I like their music. Their album is pretty good. Too bad they sorta broke up though. It's only the lead singer now with new band members. I also saw them open up for Metallica and Jerry Cantrell. I first thought that they were either SG wannabees or AIC wannabees. But then I listened to all of their songs when I first saw them in concert and they rocked. They're not as good as SG of course, but they still rocked. Take care and rock on fellow SG fans!!! Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:29:00 EDT From: Sarah Bucolic Subject: Carbon 14 and House of Blues with Chris In a message dated 7/29/99 6:01:57 AM !!!First Boot!!!, LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes: << Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:21:02 -0400 From: Khyaati Singh Subject: Re: listening recommendation days of the new.....yeah....i liked the few singles ("touch peel and stand"...."shelf in a room"....can't think of the name of the third one)...that i heard on radio stations a lot....but from what i know...the lead singer (who was only like 18 at that time....i guess recreational drugs makes you look a lot older eh?...."note to self...stop recreational drugs")....the lead singer fired everyone else in the band....kept the name days of the new....formed a whole new backup band...and is going to be coming out with an album soon....the rest of the members...however....also kept the name (but it's like "days of the new, mark two" or something like that)....and are looking for a new album deal..... xo-khyaati-xo >> Their new band is called Carbon 14 and I believe that they are working on an album already. Not sure about the album thing, but I am sure about the name. Does anyone know how to get tickets to that House of Blues thing Chris Cornell is going to be at? Take care and rock on!!! Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:18:00 +1000 From: Mansel Ismay Subject: Re: Days of the New Ok, to the ignorant fuck who posted "Who writes a song about a shelf in = a room?". It's a metaphor, poets use them. Travis meeks is a fucking genius, = granted not as good in my opinion as SG, but they are damn close. Listen = to some of those guitar lines, that is a damn fine use of an acoustic = guitar. Go learn some english you ignorant fucker. -Mansel P.S I'm having one of those days where I could smash the next fucker in = half I'm that pissed. So just try to ignore the obssessive use of = language. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:09:57 +1000 From: David Bittner Subject: Hello Hello everyone, How many people on this list have a brain? Who gives a FUCK about Days Of The New??? I don't: I joined the SOMMS list to hear about peoples' information, experiences and theories relating directly to SOUNDGARDEN. I don't think Days Of The New wrote Superunknown or Ultramega OK, did they? Please note...also...that people don't...usually write...with...'full-stops'...everywhere. Now, the relevant part of my post without saying "but at first I thought they were like Soundgarden" to try and make a connection. I would genuinely like to know when Chris' 'Euphoria Morning' is to be released in Australia. The release dates for here are not mentioned anywhere I have seen. Should they necessarily be the same? Can/will anyone help me out? Thankyou, Dave The Noy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:28:52 +1200 From: Adrian Humphrey Subject: Is it getting hotter in here? Ouch! Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:03:48 EDT From: Shawnte Orion Subject: Re: is that supposed to be a defense? << give the guy a break.....he's only 18... >> Why should that matter, when you go on to call his lyrics juvenile? Are we to lower our standards, every time some kid makes an album? If youre going to try to play in the same arenas as the big boys, you must be held to the same standard of quality. Yes, I now realize that stuff that I wrote at age 16 was absolute garbage, but I do not excuse it for sentimental reasons. Personally, I can not consider song lyrics to be poetry (except in extremely rare cases). "Emotions" are not poetry to me....vision is. (BTW, Ty Cobb wasnt written about Ty Cobb and Nirvana didnt write Love Buzz, at all). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:54:09 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: Re: Days of the New In a message dated 7/29/99 2:25:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Sgrdn27@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 7/29/99 6:01:57 AM !!!First Boot!!!, LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes: << > > >P.S Has anyone heard of a band called Days of the New? I recommend them, >if you like AIC. > > > >I have. They're very, how do I put this, bad. Who sings a song about a >shelf in a room?? I prefer the mastermind songwriting and musicianship >talents of the SG boys. Travis Meeks pales in comparison... > >Adrian. Well everyones entitled to their own oppinion....but when I first saw the vid for Touch Peel and Stand I thought they were Sg wanabees...but then I got the album and their nothing alike.... Get the album and read the lyrics and you'll know its not as simple as just singing about a shelf in the room..... Travis doesn't even like SG or AIC anyway -Liz >> I went to see Days of the New in concert and I like their music. Their album is pretty good. Too bad they sorta broke up though. It's only the lead singer now with new band members. I also saw them open up for Metallica and Jerry Cantrell. I first thought that they were either SG wannabees or AIC wannabees. But then I listened to all of their songs when I first saw them in concert and they rocked. They're not as good as SG of course, but they still rocked. Take care and rock on fellow SG fans!!! Sarah >> this brings up a point that i've been supporting for a while. you can be a poser band, yet still be good. just cuz you draw musical influence from another band and that influence comes out in what you play, doesn't mean that you're a wannabe. the prime example of this is creed. they are obviously a pearl jam wannabe. however, in my opinion, they are ten times better. better songwriting, better singing, better musicianship, and with their performance at woodstock, and pearl jam's performance at the meadowlands this year (even with matt), better live performers. i prefer creed to pearl jam. i also like days of the new. and i like fuel. and i like the nixons. and many other copycat bands. (although i absolutely loathe godsmack, they are such AiC wannabes that their band name is an AiC song. and is it me, or is layne staley the singer). hell, aren't soundgarden, to some degree, black sabbath wannabes, or zeppelin wannabes. it's arguable. i don't think so. i can hear the influences, but that doesn't make them wannabes. --Mike-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:23:29 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: My Thoughts on flames, DOTN, SG Content OK, I thought I would be my ever-so loved $0.02 in this much heated debate. To Kyati Singh (or whatever) - I deleted your e-mails as I can't reply word for word on them. Why? Cause they contain no SG content. You basically take 3 e-mails to talk about Days of the New. I don't care for DOTN, but you are entitled to your opinion. But, what's really po'g me, if the fact that there's no SG content in any e-mail! Sure, lets blurb about Ty Cobb (which, if I'm a smart individual, I wuold know that the song ain't about Ty Cobb. Can you see Chris and Kim going "Hyuk, let's write a song about a racist early 20th century baseball player. Hyuk." I can't. Can you!?) So, in all fairness, this is to most posters, and when there is no SG content in your e-mail, expect someone to backlash against you.. To Mansel - If you flame someone publically on the list, expect someone like me to back the flamee up. I really don't think that should be posted TO the list. If you don't have his e-mail addy, then don't post at all. If you're pissed off at something, does writing bad words on your keyboard make everything better? Er..I don't think so. And besides, this ties with the no SG content. I mean, read the list rules ppl.. To the Aussie wanting CC album dates - I've looked everywhere, and all I can see is US/Can and UK dates. Sorry. I'm not too sure, but in Australia, do the albums generally come out the same day as the international ones do? If so, expect the same date. To Chris' October Concert - Try Ticketmaster. We don't know all. We ain't buddha. And Chris' website too has "Tour Date Info". Since HOB is a relatively small venue (compared to Woodstock, per se) I wouldn't imagine the tickets being released more than 4 months in advance. But maybe the tickets won't even be released to the public, maybe its a mp3.com/ubl.com ticket giveaway. Who knows. If the list has news, we'll surely let everyone know, as it has SG content..:) OK...*phew*..that was a load off my mind. So, I guess, if anyone has a problem with all that, e-mail me personally so I can delete your e-mail :) ~D ICQ - 22506187 wellwaterc@hotmail.com/rftcfunpg@hotmail.com http://come.to/rftcfp - The.Rocket.From.The.Crypt.Fun.Page In CD Player- Down.On.The.Upside/Soundgarden - Lipstick Vol. 1/R.F.T.C In Winamp - Strangehold,Tarzan/R.F.T.C ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:26:00 +0200 From: badmotor Subject: send me your artworks Hello everybody, I am a newbie... I know it's almost a crime here and you (the oldies) hate me just for being new on this list... but what the hell ;-) I've been on the list for few months so far but I've been reading the digest for about a year before joining SOMMS and I read most of the massages and I think I understand why the old SOMMSters are so pissed... in my opinion the list was much cooler and more exciting few years ago. Anyway I am gonna go off at a tangent a bit so if you really don't feel like reading it, stop right now, delate this massage as quick as you can and please don't write me back telling me how stupid I am. Thanks. So for the people who are interested: I would love to receive your artworks about SG so I could put them on my site on http://members.xoom.com/faithgarden/ I promise to credit the author for the artwork. If you are interested send your artworks to badmotor@friko5.onet.pl If you are not interested just forget about the massage. Thanks! Take care of yourself all of you!!! Agata ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:24:30 EDT From: James Connolly Subject: oi somms hey everyone, know what was cool? from like 4 days ago til yesterday there was NO somms mail. so lets try and get that happening again jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:34:25 +0200 From: Rizzitelli Marco Subject: Marta & Carmen searching This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BEDA01.BF8D8D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know this is not the right way to use the list, maybe. Please forgive = me, but this is a message for Marta y Carmen from Madrid and this is the = only way to contact them: I've wrongly deleted your e-mail address, = please write me back.=20 THANK YOU ALL and IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN!!!! 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I know this is not the right way to use = the list,=20 maybe. Please forgive me, but this is a message for Marta y Carmen from = Madrid=20 and this is the only way to contact them: I've wrongly deleted your = e-mail=20 address, please write me back.
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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BEDA01.BF8D8D20-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:11:22 EDT From: Lizzy SubPOP Subject: Re: listening recommendation >From: Khyaati Singh >Reply-To: Khyaati Singh >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: listening recommendation >Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:21:02 -0400 > >days of the new.....yeah....i liked the few singles ("touch peel and >stand"...."shelf in a room"....can't think of the name of the third >one)...that i heard on radio stations a lot....but from what i >know...the lead singer (who was only like 18 at that time....i guess >recreational drugs makes you look a lot older eh?...."note to >self...stop recreational drugs")....the lead singer fired everyone else >in the band....kept the name days of the new....formed a whole new >backup band...and is going to be coming out with an album soon....the >rest of the members...however....also kept the name (but it's like "days >of the new, mark two" or something like that)....and are looking for a >new album deal..... > >xo-khyaati-xo > I don't wanna sound like a "know it all" but just to correct you, Travis did fire everyone in the band but kept the name days of the new because he considers Himself and only himself to BE DOTN.....the other guys were just backing him up and he got pissed cuz they were taking credit..so he got rid of them and is in the process of making another album that should be out in sept-oct, with a new backup band and a female backing singer....Todd, Jesse, and Matt, supposedly formed another band...I forgot the name of it though..I'll let u know when I find out... Liz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:23:55 -0400 From: Seth Perlman Subject: Irrelevance This is not a Days of the New list. This is not a public space for flaming. This is a Soundgarden list. Please keep your posts relevant or you won't be posting any more. -seth listadmin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:20:57 -0500 From: Greg Garfield Subject: Excuse me.... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01BED9CD.93814C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I may be 2 days new to the SOMMS group, but I'm a seasoned and diehard = SG fan since Screaming Life. All I can say is, I might as well have = subscribed to the "Days of The New" mailing list. I think I might just = unsubscribe with the massive DOTN crap mail I'm getting in my box. = Apparently there's more interest in them than SG here. And that's = mighty depressing. *Greg a.k.a. Soundgarfield a.k.a. Mr. Shame ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01BED9CD.93814C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I may be 2 days new to the SOMMS = group, but I'm=20 a seasoned and diehard SG fan since Screaming Life.  All I can say = is, I=20 might as well have subscribed to the "Days of The New" mailing = list.  I think I might just unsubscribe with the massive DOTN crap = mail I'm=20 getting in my box.  Apparently there's more interest in them than = SG=20 here.  And that's mighty depressing.
 
*Greg
a.k.a. Soundgarfield
a.k.a. Mr. Shame
------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01BED9CD.93814C00-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:34:16 EDT From: Lizzy SubPOP Subject: Re: Days of the New >From: Mike Gallagher >Reply-To: Gallagwar@AOL.COM >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: Days of the New >Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:54:09 EDT > >In a message dated 7/29/99 2:25:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >Sgrdn27@aol.com >writes: > ><< In a message dated 7/29/99 6:01:57 AM !!!First Boot!!!, > LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes: > > << > > > >P.S Has anyone heard of a band called Days of the New? I recommend >them, > >if you like AIC. > > > > > > >I have. They're very, how do I put this, bad. Who sings a song about a > >shelf in a room?? I prefer the mastermind songwriting and musicianship > >talents of the SG boys. Travis Meeks pales in comparison... > > > >Adrian. > > Well everyones entitled to their own oppinion....but when I first saw >the > vid for Touch Peel and Stand I thought they were Sg wanabees...but then >I > got the album and their nothing alike.... > Get the album and read the lyrics and you'll know its not as simple as >just > singing about a shelf in the room..... > Travis doesn't even like SG or AIC anyway > > -Liz >> > I went to see Days of the New in concert and I like their music. Their > album is pretty good. Too bad they sorta broke up though. It's only the > lead singer now with new band members. I also saw them open up for >Metallica > and Jerry Cantrell. I first thought that they were either SG wannabees >or > AIC wannabees. But then I listened to all of their songs when I first >saw > them in concert and they rocked. They're not as good as SG of course, >but > they still rocked. Take care and rock on fellow SG fans!!! > Sarah > >> > >this brings up a point that i've been supporting for a while. you can be a >poser band, yet still be good. just cuz you draw musical influence from >another band and that influence comes out in what you play, doesn't mean >that >you're a wannabe. the prime example of this is creed. they are obviously >a >pearl jam wannabe. however, in my opinion, they are ten times better. >better songwriting, better singing, better musicianship, and with their >performance at woodstock, and pearl jam's performance at the meadowlands >this >year (even with matt), better live performers. i prefer creed to pearl >jam. >i also like days of the new. and i like fuel. and i like the nixons. and >many >other copycat bands. (although i absolutely loathe godsmack, they are such >AiC wannabes that their band name is an AiC song. and is it me, or is layne >staley the singer). hell, aren't soundgarden, to some degree, black >sabbath >wannabes, or zeppelin wannabes. it's arguable. i don't think so. i can >hear the influences, but that doesn't make them wannabes. > >--Mike-- I am just sick of ppl comparing bands....everyones talented in their own way....(exept for Alanis Morrisette...she just sucks) sure a lot of bands sound alike....but who cares! -Liz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:42:04 EDT From: Lizzy SubPOP Subject: Re: Excuse me.... >From: Greg Garfield >Reply-To: Greg Garfield >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Excuse me.... >Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:20:57 -0500 > >I may be 2 days new to the SOMMS group, but I'm a seasoned and diehard SG >fan since Screaming Life. All I can say is, I might as well have >subscribed to the "Days of The New" mailing list. I think I might just >unsubscribe with the massive DOTN crap mail I'm getting in my box. >Apparently there's more interest in them than SG here. And that's mighty >depressing. > >*Greg >a.k.a. Soundgarfield >a.k.a. Mr. Shame Jesus Christ will u ppl relax? your all so close minded -Liz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:35:07 -0500 From: Mike Liacone Subject: Re: Irrelevance I understand how important it is to keep on the topic of Soundgarden. But what hasn't been covered??? I feel that if we want to talk about something non-Soundgarden related, then why not???? We are all fans, and this should be a forum for the fans. I'm not saying that extensive threads on Days of the New is acceptable, but if we concentrated on purely Soundgarden, this list would be chock full of redundancy (like it already isn't). Well, that is my thought. And no, I'm not a newbie, just a different name. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:57:00 EDT From: Troy Black Subject: Re: Days of the New << i also like days of the new. and i like fuel. and i like the nixons. and many other copycat bands. (although i absolutely loathe godsmack, they are such AiC wannabes that their band name is an AiC song. and is it me, or is layne staley the singer). >> Its kinda funny actually... your blabbering on about copycat bands and you call Godsmack an "AIC wannabe" because of their name? Granted, I realize that "God Smack" is an AIC song, but for god sakes, who gives a damn? Isn't it about the music, or maybe you go out and buy CD's cause of the bands name? And if you must toss Godsmack into the copycat mold, at least do it for the right reasons (i.e., they're far more similar to Metallica than they ever will be to AIC, by a longshot) Morgion ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:09:14 -0600 From: Fluttergirl Subject: What if you went deaf? New topic. A distraction, if you will allow it. So, you're a Soundgarden fan (obvious because you're subscribed to the list) and one day you go deaf. Do you think you could still be and SG fan? Of course you would still have the sound of their music in your memory, but the experience of listening to them AFTER you went deaf would be different. I was just thinking about this because people who are deaf can still FEEL the vibrations and what not that the music makes. Which brings me to an unusual question: Are there any deaf SG fans out there (or on this list, perhaps)? Fluttergirl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:27:05 -0500 From: Greg Garfield Subject: Re: What if you went deaf? >Which brings me to an unusual question: Are there any deaf SG fans out >there (or on this list, perhaps)? What? Only joking. Actually that's the most intelligent topic I've read posted to this group yet. I haven't given that hitherto much thought, although SG is such a rhythmic band that I think it would be gratifying at whatever level just to experience their music as vibration. But as a musician (although it's a somewhat useless topic) I'd much rather be blind than deaf.....I think. (knock on wood) *G ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:17:52 -0700 From: ? Subject: Re: What if you went deaf? Yes, I would still be a fan. 1. Memories, like you said. 2. The lyrics would still grab me. They're damn good, don't you think? 3. Visually, they're pretty appealing. 4. I don't know about the vibrations thing- I would like to think that it would help me remember the songs I'd heard. I would like to think that I would still be able to enjoy the music sonically, but I don't know what it's like to be truly deaf. Oh, and on the topic of what to talk about... I would like to see song interpretations from others... don't let the naysayers scare you off. Plus, Arden will probably publish you on his site, which is neat. Obviously there isn't a lot to talk about since Soundgarden broke up a while ago, but since there are always new people there are always new interpretations to be heard. I would especially like to hear new input on Mind Riot. It's so rich in imagery, it's got to mean different things to different listeners. Thanks for listening. Tiffany On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Fluttergirl wrote: > So, you're a Soundgarden fan (obvious because you're subscribed to the list) > and one day you go deaf. Do you think you could still be and SG fan? Of > course you would still have the sound of their music in your memory, but the > experience of listening to them AFTER you went deaf would be different. > I was just thinking about this because people who are deaf can still FEEL > the vibrations and what not that the music makes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:07:09 EDT From: Jenna Freemon Subject: Everybody just shut up! Seth can kick me off for this and i don't really care, but a lot of you people make me sick. How old is everybody? Five!? Yeah I like Days of the New and all some people are trying to do is compare with Soundgarden, and i think that's alright, but why do people respond and be assholes about it. It seems to me like you have nothing better to do than be a falme'n jerk. You know guys Seth is a totally cool guy to bring this list to you and you trash it, and I just want to apologize to him for it. You know it's the people like you that start war in this world , and yeah are you proud now!? I really hope Seth will kick me off now because this list is too immature for me. Jenna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:19:47 -0700 From: "Tannenbaum, Samuel ISSN" Subject: Indeed... This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDA10.7A68421C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I agree with this guy. The only prerequisite for being a member/ > contributor to this mailing list should be a deep and sincere = appreciation > for the work of=20 >=20 > S O U N D G A R D E N and its components. Part of that appreciation > entails appreciation for other bands and musicians, and, = consequently, any > discussion to that end (to a reasonable degree, naturally) must be > regarded as relevant. Granted, not everyone on the list wants to read > everything that gets posted, but it isn't difficult to delete = E-mails... > it only takes a second. >=20 > Perhaps composing the subject line in such fashion that the content = of the > E-mails is understood would keep some folks happy. Whatever you = people > believe the antidote should or could be, the bottom line is that this > forum is for free discussion about music, and any attempts to control = the > input therein as strictly as some folks would like must be opposed. = Thanks > for bearing with my wordiness. Later. >=20 > Sam=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I understand how important it is to keep on the topic of > Soundgarden.=20 > But what hasn't been covered???=A0 I feel that if we want to talk = about=20 > something non-Soundgarden related, then why not????=A0 We are all = fans,=20 > and this should be a forum for the fans.=A0 I'm not saying that=20 > extensive threads on Days of the New is acceptable, but if we=20 > concentrated on purely Soundgarden, this list would be chock full of=20 > redundancy (like it already isn't).=A0 Well, that is my thought.=A0 = And=20 > no, I'm not a newbie, just a different name.=20 >=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDA10.7A68421C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed...

I agree with this = guy. The only prerequisite for being a member/ contributor to this = mailing list should be a deep and sincere appreciation for the work = of

S O U N D G A R D E = N and its components. Part of that appreciation entails appreciation = for other bands and musicians, and, consequently, any discussion to = that end (to a reasonable degree, naturally) must be regarded as = relevant. Granted, not everyone on the list wants to read everything = that gets posted, but it isn't difficult to delete E-mails... it only = takes a second.

Perhaps composing = the subject line in such fashion that the content of the E-mails is = understood would keep some folks happy. Whatever you people believe the = antidote should or could be, the bottom line is that this forum is for = free discussion about music, and any attempts to control the input = therein as strictly as some folks would like must be opposed. Thanks = for bearing with my wordiness. Later.

Sam






        I understand how important it is to keep on the = topic of Soundgarden.
But what hasn't = been covered???=A0 I feel that if we want to talk about
something = non-Soundgarden related, then why not????=A0 We are all = fans,
and this should = be a forum for the fans.=A0 I'm not saying that
extensive = threads on Days of the New is acceptable, but if we
concentrated on = purely Soundgarden, this list would be chock full of
redundancy (like = it already isn't).=A0 Well, that is my thought.=A0 And
no, I'm not a = newbie, just a different name.

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDA10.7A68421C-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:34:57 EDT From: Aaron Preston Subject: hmm... Isnt it funny how so many anal people are complaining about people not posting stuff about soundgarden and in reality neither are they because they are too busy being the police, personally I think soundgarden as a band would like its fans to converse about other musical interests as long as it is somewhat relative. anyway, anybody have their top ten favorite S O U N D G A R D E N songs and reasons for liking them? (trying to get everybody back in the groove i guess) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:47:46 -0400 From: DeeDee Kamp Subject: Re: Indeed... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BED9F2.D985F320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed...While this is all a fine and dandy *opinion* this list is and = has always been Seth's list about Soundgarden. If you want a music = forum, try alt.music.whatever. This list has survived for a lot of = years now and for the years I have been present there has always been = someone who thought it should be better and the reply to that person is, = create your own list and do it your way. This is Seth's way. Like it = or leave. ********************* DeeDee Kamp dkamp@eos.ncsu.edu CSC114 GRADER Office Hours: Wednesday1:00pm-3:00pm Leazar Hall =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tannenbaum, Samuel ISSN=20 To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU=20 Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 6:19 PM Subject: Indeed... I agree with this guy. The only prerequisite for being a member/ = contributor to this mailing list should be a deep and sincere = appreciation for the work of=20 S O U N D G A R D E N and its components. Part of that appreciation = entails appreciation for other bands and musicians, and, consequently, = any discussion to that end (to a reasonable degree, naturally) must be = regarded as relevant. Granted, not everyone on the list wants to read = everything that gets posted, but it isn't difficult to delete E-mails... = it only takes a second. Perhaps composing the subject line in such fashion that the content of = the E-mails is understood would keep some folks happy. Whatever you = people believe the antidote should or could be, the bottom line is that = this forum is for free discussion about music, and any attempts to = control the input therein as strictly as some folks would like must be = opposed. Thanks for bearing with my wordiness. Later. Sam=20 I understand how important it is to keep on the topic of = Soundgarden. But what hasn't been covered??? I feel that if we want to talk about something non-Soundgarden related, then why not???? We are all fans, and this should be a forum for the fans. I'm not saying that extensive threads on Days of the New is acceptable, but if we concentrated on purely Soundgarden, this list would be chock full of redundancy (like it already isn't). Well, that is my thought. And no, I'm not a newbie, just a different name.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BED9F2.D985F320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed...
While this is all a fine and dandy = *opinion* this=20 list is and has always been Seth's list about Soundgarden.  If you = want a=20 music forum, try alt.music.whatever.  This list has survived for a = lot of=20 years now and for the years I have been present there has always been = someone=20 who thought it should be better and the reply to that person is, create = your own=20 list and do it your way.  This is Seth's way.  Like it or=20 leave.
 
 
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Office=20 Hours:
Wednesday1:00pm-3:00pm
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tannenbaum, Samuel ISSN =
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 = 6:19=20 PM
Subject: Indeed...



I agree with this guy. = The only=20 prerequisite for being a member/ contributor to this mailing list = should be a=20 deep and sincere appreciation for the work of

S O U N D G A R D E N = and its=20 components. Part of that appreciation entails appreciation for other = bands and=20 musicians, and, consequently, any discussion to that end (to a = reasonable=20 degree, naturally) must be regarded as relevant. Granted, not everyone = on the=20 list wants to read everything that gets posted, but it isn't difficult = to=20 delete E-mails... it only takes a second.

Perhaps composing the = subject line in=20 such fashion that the content of the E-mails is understood would keep = some=20 folks happy. Whatever you people believe the antidote should or could = be, the=20 bottom line is that this forum is for free discussion about music, and = any=20 attempts to control the input therein as strictly as some folks would = like=20 must be opposed. Thanks for bearing with my wordiness. = Later.

Sam






        I understand how important it is to keep on the topic of=20 Soundgarden.
But what hasn't been = covered???  I feel=20 that if we want to talk about
something=20 non-Soundgarden related, then why not????  We are all = fans,
and=20 this should be a forum for the fans.  I'm not saying = that
extensive threads on Days of the New is acceptable, but if=20 we
concentrated on purely Soundgarden, this list = would be chock=20 full of
redundancy (like it already isn't).  Well, = that is my=20 thought.  And
no, I'm not a newbie, just a = different=20 name.=20

------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BED9F2.D985F320-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:16:16 EDT From: Charlie Mccutcheon Subject: Re: Everybody just shut up! + GAMES,GAMES,GAMES! In a message dated 7/29/99 6:08:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Freedotcom@aol.com writes: > Yeah I like Days of the New > and all some people are trying to do is compare with Soundgarden, and i > think > that's alright, for 3+ posts? it's a waste of time. i know it's not illegal, but some people would rather read something a) sg related, b) not regurgitated thread of old, c) interesting. there ain't a hell of a lot of new sg floating around, i know, but if you can't say anything of worth to an entire community of people, keep it to yourself or e-mail privately. i understand your frustration, but when a new sommster enters, they want to see something sg, not days. it's also ok to have a bit of fun. hell, GAMES ARE FUN!! SO HAVE SOME FUN NOW, GODDAMMIT!!! *PHEW* thanks charlie p.s. 6 degrees of sg, anyone? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:20:01 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: hmm... Aaron Preston wrote: > > Isnt it funny how so many anal people are complaining about people not > posting stuff about soundgarden and in reality neither are they because they > are too busy being the police, personally I think soundgarden as a band would > like its fans to converse about other musical interests as long as it is > somewhat relative. I agree... Yes this is a SOUNDGARDEN list, but wasn't soundgarden influenced by others and hasn't soundgarden themselves influenced others??? I mean... come on. I for one think that we should NOT limit the list to JUST SOUNDGARDEN. It's not because they broke up and there is no real new subjects to chat about, which i know there a still some out there so don't start going off on me now, but like many of you have stated before... the list is getting a bit redundant on some of the stuff. Only way you can get around that is to start having subjects on other band that are closely related to Soundgarden in some way shape of form. Let's talk about bands that have opened for soundgarden, bands soundgarden has opened for, bands that were/are friends with em. That way we are all not just siting around thinking of how many beers Kim can drink in an hour, or how many glasses Chris can break with the power of his voice. Change is good. Just ask Dave, who is also on the Rocket from the Crypt list, about how talking about other band besides just the one band the list is about is a good thing. Thank you. Good Night. SG Connection: Rocket from the Crypt opened for SG on their last tour, and this message is about the list (see... it all comes back to Soundgarden. that was not to hard was it????). -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:27:05 EDT From: Igor Nepomnyashchiy Subject: for the sake of the argument. For the sake of the rgument, lets assume we're all wrong and stop arguing. -Igor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:52:08 -0500 From: tonerkin Subject: Re: What if you went deaf? At 02:09 PM 7/29/99 -0600, Fluttergirl wrote: >Which brings me to an unusual question: Are there any deaf SG fans out >there (or on this list, perhaps)? Don't think there are any deaf ones but perhaps a couple of them seem to be mentally impaired! toni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:03:44 +0100 From: alan ball Subject: This post has SG content (i promise!!) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BEDA27.5ED2B700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recently noticed a Down On The Upside CD for sale in a local = collectors shop, up until now, I thought it came just in the usual = plastic case, but this one was like a cardboard CD single type, is this = rare? Is it UK limited edition? And another thing, how many other = versions is there? =20 Hows about that a whole email without a flame or a moan on it!!!!! I = bet you all thought they didn't exsist any more huh!!! Oh, and one last thing, I totally respect Vicky Anselmo and her views on = here recent Chris Cornell experince. I can 100% understand. --Alan. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BEDA27.5ED2B700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I recently noticed a Down On The Upside CD = for sale in=20 a local collectors shop, up until now, I thought it came just in the = usual=20 plastic case, but this one was like a cardboard CD single type, is this=20 rare?  Is it UK limited edition?  And another thing, how many = other=20 versions is there?
 
Hows about that a whole email without a flame or a moan on = it!!!!!  I=20 bet you all thought they didn't exsist any more huh!!!
 
Oh, and one last thing, I totally respect Vicky Anselmo and her = views on=20 here recent Chris Cornell experince.  I can 100% understand.
 
--Alan.
------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BEDA27.5ED2B700-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:13:37 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: Re: This post has SG content (i promise!!) In a message dated 7/29/99 5:00:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, edge@BASE85.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << I recently noticed a Down On The Upside CD for sale in a local collectors shop, up until now, I thought it came just in the usual plastic case, but this one was like a cardboard CD single type, is this rare? Is it UK limited edition? And another thing, how many other versions is there? >> All the US copies of DOTU came in the Cardboard "Digipak" (I believe they're called.) Only you unfortunate xenophytes get those boring jewel boxes. Matt The Official Well-Behaved SOMMS Posterboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:02:45 EDT From: Andy Guinn Subject: goodbye somms i want off the list, whats the command? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:12:24 -0700 From: "Tannenbaum, Samuel ISSN" Subject: Yes, but... This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDA28.9768AB1E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I respect your position as much as you respect mine, but ater = reading the postings from other folks on the list, it would seem that those who = feel as extremely as you do are in the minority. Nobody here is proposing = turning this mailing list into one of general music discussion, but let's be honest-- how many of us listen to=20 S O U N D G A R D E N to the exclusion of all other recorded music? My guess: not one.=20 While it's true that this IS a forum FOR S O U N D G A R D E N enthusiasts, the assertion that all postings should be DIRECTLY related = to S O U N D G A R D E N is unfair and difficult to enforce. If a story = turns up about the Wellwater Conspiracy, who's determination is it that it = does or does not belong on the list? It's entirely subjective (well, not entirely...there IS some room for commom sense here....but I believe my position has been established).=20 Bottom line: givn that this IS a forum about music, if a drastically specialized one, all subject matter to that end interrelates in some = way; you can't avoid it. Seth can, should, and (presumably) will police the ranks. It's not our job to do so. And if all of the above logic fails, = just lighten up!! It's really not that big a deal.=20 I'd really like to know what Seth thinks about this... Sam > While this is all a fine and dandy *opinion* this list is and has = always > been Seth's list about Soundgarden.=A0 If you want a music forum, try > alt.music.whatever.=A0 This list has survived for a lot of years now = and for > the years I have been present there has always been someone who = thought it > should be better and the reply to that person is, create your own = list and > do it your way.=A0 This is Seth's way.=A0 Like it or leave. > =A0 > =A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I agree with this guy. The only prerequisite for being a member/ > contributor to this mailing list should be a deep and sincere = appreciation > for the work of=20 >=20 > S O U N D G A R D E N and its components. Part of that appreciation > entails appreciation for other bands and musicians, and, = consequently, any > discussion to that end (to a reasonable degree, naturally) must be > regarded as relevant. Granted, not everyone on the list wants to read > everything that gets posted, but it isn't difficult to delete = E-mails... > it only takes a second. >=20 > Perhaps composing the subject line in such fashion that the content > of the E-mails is understood would keep some folks happy. Whatever = you > people believe the antidote should or could be, the bottom line is = that > this forum is for free discussion about music, and any attempts to = control > the input therein as strictly as some folks would like must be = opposed. > Thanks for bearing with my wordiness. Later. >=20 > Sam=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I understand how important it is to keep on = the topic of > Soundgarden. > But what hasn't been covered???=A0 I feel that if we want to talk > about > something non-Soundgarden related, then why not????=A0 We are all > fans, > and this should be a forum for the fans.=A0 I'm not saying that > extensive threads on Days of the New is acceptable, but if we > concentrated on purely Soundgarden, this list would be chock full of > redundancy (like it already isn't).=A0 Well, that is my thought.=A0 = And > no, I'm not a newbie, just a different name.=20 >=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDA28.9768AB1E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, but...

Well, I respect your = position as much as you respect mine, but ater reading the postings = from other folks on the list, it would seem that those who feel as = extremely as you do are in the minority. Nobody here is proposing = turning this mailing list into one of general music discussion, but = let's be honest-- how many of us listen to

S O U N D G A R D E = N to the exclusion of all other recorded music? My guess: not one. =

While it's true that = this IS a forum FOR  S O U N D G A R D E N  enthusiasts, the = assertion that all postings should be DIRECTLY related to

 S O U N D G A = R D E N is unfair and difficult to enforce. If a story turns up about = the Wellwater Conspiracy, who's determination is it that it does or = does not belong on the list? It's entirely subjective (well, not = entirely...there IS some room for commom sense here....but I believe my = position has been established).

Bottom line: givn = that this IS a forum about music, if a drastically specialized one, all = subject matter to that end interrelates in some way; you can't avoid = it. Seth can, should, and (presumably) will police the ranks. It's not = our job to do so. And if all of the above logic fails, just lighten = up!! It's really not that big a deal.

I'd really like to = know what Seth thinks about this...

Sam



    While this is all a = fine and dandy *opinion* this list is and has always been Seth's list = about Soundgarden.=A0 If you want a music forum, try = alt.music.whatever.=A0 This list has survived for a lot of years now = and for the years I have been present there has always been someone who = thought it should be better and the reply to that person is, create = your own list and do it your way.=A0 This is Seth's way.=A0 Like it or = leave.

    =A0
    =A0





      I agree with this = guy. The only prerequisite for being a member/ contributor to this = mailing list should be a deep and sincere appreciation for the work = of

      S O U N D G A R D E = N and its components. Part of that appreciation entails appreciation = for other bands and musicians, and, consequently, any discussion to = that end (to a reasonable degree, naturally) must be regarded as = relevant. Granted, not everyone on the list wants to read everything = that gets posted, but it isn't difficult to delete E-mails... it only = takes a second.

      Perhaps composing = the subject line in such fashion that the content of the E-mails is = understood would keep some folks happy. Whatever you people believe the = antidote should or could be, the bottom line is that this forum is for = free discussion about music, and any attempts to control the input = therein as strictly as some folks would like must be opposed. Thanks = for bearing with my wordiness. Later.

      Sam






      =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = I understand how = important it is to keep on the topic of Soundgarden.
      But what hasn't been = covered???=A0 I feel that if we want to talk about
      something = non-Soundgarden related, then why not????=A0 We are all = fans,
      and this should be a = forum for the fans.=A0 I'm not saying that
      extensive threads on = Days of the New is acceptable, but if we
      concentrated on purely = Soundgarden, this list would be chock full of
      redundancy (like it = already isn't).=A0 Well, that is my thought.=A0 And
      no, I'm not a newbie, = just a different name. =

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDA28.9768AB1E-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:44:10 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Re: Yes, but... Hey SOMMSters, Here's my last post on the whole debate on what people can post, can frankly, I think points have been made, and people have at least feel some sort of change, whether good or bad..no, on to the response. >Well, I respect your position as much as you respect mine, but ater reading >the postings from other folks on the list, it would seem that those who >feel >as extremely as you do are in the minority. Nobody here is proposing >turning >this mailing list into one of general music discussion, but let's be >honest-- how many of us listen to >S O U N D G A R D E N to the exclusion of all other recorded music? My >guess: not one. No, you are forgetting the lurkers, many of which choose to lurk because of idiotic discussions such as these. >While it's true that this IS a forum FOR S O U N D G A R D E N >enthusiasts, the assertion that all postings should be DIRECTLY related to > S O U N D G A R D E N is unfair and difficult to enforce. If a story >turns >up about the Wellwater Conspiracy, who's determination is it that it does >or >does not belong on the list? It's entirely subjective (well, not >entirely...there IS some room for commom sense here....but I believe my >position has been established). There is a Wellwater Conspiracy list, and if people want to talk about WWC, talk about it there. Would you like me to give you the URL? >Bottom line: givn that this IS a forum about music, if a drastically >specialized one, all subject matter to that end interrelates in some way; >you can't avoid it. Seth can, should, and (presumably) will police the >ranks. It's not our job to do so. And if all of the above logic fails, just >lighten up!! It's really not that big a deal. > >I'd really like to know what Seth thinks about this... > >Sam > One - I agree with the person you replyed to. Why? Because if you look at a newsgroup, you can see that there are a lot of redundant messages, compared with one or two real meaningful posts (prolly haven't found out about SOMMS). I subscribe to a mailing list because I want to talk about Soundgarden, not Jane Doe's favourite boy bands. Two - Seth has made his point clear in an earlier post. You also got to remember, the guy has a life. I doubt he can police SOMMS every hour of the day. And he's got power man, power you won't believe :). That's my thoughts. I'm sure there's a great many of people out there who hate reading redundant posts. If this is one of them, my apologies. If not, maybe we can all just back to talking about 'garden and not about Travis Meeks (note to oldies, did that bring back deja vu or what? :)) If you want posts to talk about or threads, I'll list a few: SG Dreams SG Song Interps SG Webpages SOMMSter gatherings SG BOOTLEGS! SG experiences SG Songs you love SG Sideprojects that should have been given the time of day Top 10 SG songs (already mentioned..) SOMMSter profiles (talk to Koggle about that...) SG B-sides oh god, there's a ton of recycled crap out there. Go read the digests and pull something from there. But please don't make it redundant...and at least have a SG connection to talk about.. I'm out. Dave PS - Andrew Snodgrass, I'm not on your ICQ anymore..could you add me? Just search for me..and props for the RFTC plug :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:31:52 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: Yes, but... Dave George-Cosh wrote: > PS - Andrew Snodgrass, I'm not on your ICQ anymore..could you add me? Just > search for me..and props for the RFTC plug :) Excuse me Dave... but this is a Soundgarden mailing list not a RFTC list. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Soundgarden Connection: None... i just wanted to piss you all off some more. j/k HAHAHAHA. Sorry... I had to do that. Just showing us all how big of asses we are making of ourselves. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:33:15 -0400 From: Khyaati Singh Subject: Re: Days of the New that was the point i was trying to make....it's poetry....granted it's written for the purposes of a song (with the hopes it'll be "commercially popular"...so it's got to be a bit catchy)...but it's poetry.... xo-khyaati-xo Mansel Ismay wrote: > > Ok, to the ignorant fuck who posted "Who writes a song about a shelf in a room?". > It's a metaphor, poets use them. Travis meeks is a fucking genius, granted not as good in my opinion as SG, but they are damn close. Listen to some of those guitar lines, that is a damn fine use of an acoustic guitar. Go learn some english you ignorant fucker. > -Mansel > P.S I'm having one of those days where I could smash the next fucker in half I'm that pissed. So just try to ignore the obssessive use of language. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:39:04 -0400 From: Khyaati Singh Subject: Re: Hello (>>>ILE<<<....if you still get somms....you'll completely appreciate what i'm about to say here from knowing who i am....) well....dave the noy....i caught your little reference to me in there....maybe you should start writing with full stops/periods everywhere....because it a bit unique....i'm not a sheep....i don't do this to be different per se...it's just the way i write....i write (on emails and internet anyhow) the way i would speak....i am the type of person who tends to ramble on sometimes...goes off track and gets back on....you can almost hear me talking from reading this....and if you don't like it....delete it before you go on to read it and get annyoed with it....and believe me dear....just because you don't like the way i choose to display my posts....doesn't mean i'll give a shit and change just for little ol' you....so don't read my posts...or find something better to complain about because i'm sure i could care less....ciao xo-khyaati-xo David Bittner wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > How many people on this list have a brain? Who gives a FUCK > about Days Of The New??? I don't: I joined the SOMMS list to hear > about peoples' information, experiences and theories relating directly to > SOUNDGARDEN. I don't think Days Of The New wrote Superunknown > or Ultramega OK, did they? Please note...also...that people don't...usually > write...with...'full-stops'...everywhere. > > Now, the relevant part of my post without saying "but at first I > thought they were like Soundgarden" to try and make a connection. > I would genuinely like to know when Chris' 'Euphoria Morning' is to > be released in Australia. The release dates for here are not mentioned > anywhere I have seen. Should they necessarily be the same? > Can/will anyone help me out? > > Thankyou, > Dave The Noy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:39:45 -0400 From: Khyaati Singh Subject: Re: Is it getting hotter in here? who was/is that for? Adrian Humphrey wrote: > > Ouch! > > Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:46:02 -0400 From: Khyaati Singh Subject: Re: is that supposed to be a defense? i stand corrected i guess....but i still have my opinions...stuff you write when you're younger...less exprienced with both the world and the language (whatever language that may be)....it's still as strong and poingnant as things you can write when you're 30 or 40 when you've seen a lot more and learned a lot more....true that the more "juvinile" stuff...when looking at it from a later date....is going to seem exactly that....childish....but at that time....it held meaning for you....it was how you chose to express yourself...i'm not saying that the things that meek wrote were worthy to be played against the big boys....but from where he's coming...it was good shit....and i still see (in most cases...as opposed to your seeing it under rare cases) lyrics to most songs as poetry....poetry is a vision....indeed it is....but poetry is much more than that...it's emotions...it's the human spirit....and it's a completely different description from one person to the next....and i wasn't really trying to say anything about ty cobb or love buzz...i was just rying to make a point....that just because the song is "about" a shelf in a room does not mean it's trash and not worthy of air play....the shelf in a room is metaphore....and poetry is never only skin deep....just about every word uttered/written by a poet holds some sort of metaphor.... xo-khyaati-xo Shawnte Orion wrote: > > << give the guy a break.....he's only 18... >> > > Why should that matter, when you go on to call his lyrics juvenile? Are we to > lower our standards, every time some kid makes an album? If youre going to > try to play in the same arenas as the big boys, you must be held to the same > standard of quality. Yes, I now realize that stuff that I wrote at age 16 was > absolute garbage, but I do not excuse it for sentimental reasons. > > Personally, I can not consider song lyrics to be poetry (except in extremely > rare cases). "Emotions" are not poetry to me....vision is. (BTW, Ty Cobb > wasnt written about Ty Cobb and Nirvana didnt write Love Buzz, at all). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:55:09 -0400 From: Khyaati Singh Subject: Re: My Thoughts on flames, DOTN, SG Content whatever....i was putting in my thoughts on what other people had said...as for as dotn are concerned....i've only ever heard three of their songs....so there was on email...the second was about someone saying something about a song of dotn...but my response was something a bit more generalized....it was about songs in general being a lot like poetry...and the rhird i'm not even sure right now....so tell me...besides being pissed off at people and ranting in this little post of yours....how much sg content did it contain?.....and it's KHYAATI....at least give me the courtosey of spelling it correctly before you go off on a tangent that was completely uncalled for....in my eyes...you've just made yourself look ignorant....and like i had said to the guy in the earlier post....delete my stuff if you dont want to read it....when i was on somms about three years ago...we ran into the same thing....how long can you go on talking about merely sg (even though we all obviously love them)....and not run out of things to say...life is not a one topic discussion...you can talk about other things...you can have other interests....for if we couldn't....then we might as well have let hitler take control and tell us what to think..... xo-khyaati-xo Dave George-Cosh wrote: > > OK, I thought I would be my ever-so loved $0.02 in this much heated debate. > > To Kyati Singh (or whatever) - I deleted your e-mails as I can't reply word > for word on them. Why? Cause they contain no SG content. You basically take > 3 e-mails to talk about Days of the New. I don't care for DOTN, but you are > entitled to your opinion. But, what's really po'g me, if the fact that > there's no SG content in any e-mail! Sure, lets blurb about Ty Cobb (which, > if I'm a smart individual, I wuold know that the song ain't about Ty Cobb. > Can you see Chris and Kim going "Hyuk, let's write a song about a racist > early 20th century baseball player. Hyuk." I can't. Can you!?) So, in all > fairness, this is to most posters, and when there is no SG content in your > e-mail, expect someone to backlash against you.. > > To Mansel - If you flame someone publically on the list, expect someone like > me to back the flamee up. I really don't think that should be posted TO the > list. If you don't have his e-mail addy, then don't post at all. If you're > pissed off at something, does writing bad words on your keyboard make > everything better? Er..I don't think so. And besides, this ties with the no > SG content. I mean, read the list rules ppl.. > > To the Aussie wanting CC album dates - I've looked everywhere, and all I can > see is US/Can and UK dates. Sorry. I'm not too sure, but in Australia, do > the albums generally come out the same day as the international ones do? If > so, expect the same date. > > To Chris' October Concert - Try Ticketmaster. We don't know all. We ain't > buddha. And Chris' website too has "Tour Date Info". Since HOB is a > relatively small venue (compared to Woodstock, per se) I wouldn't imagine > the tickets being released more than 4 months in advance. But maybe the > tickets won't even be released to the public, maybe its a mp3.com/ubl.com > ticket giveaway. Who knows. If the list has news, we'll surely let everyone > know, as it has SG content..:) > > OK...*phew*..that was a load off my mind. So, I guess, if anyone has a > problem with all that, e-mail me personally so I can delete your e-mail :) > > ~D > ICQ - 22506187 > wellwaterc@hotmail.com/rftcfunpg@hotmail.com > http://come.to/rftcfp - The.Rocket.From.The.Crypt.Fun.Page > In CD Player- Down.On.The.Upside/Soundgarden - Lipstick Vol. 1/R.F.T.C > In Winamp - Strangehold,Tarzan/R.F.T.C > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:59:38 -0400 From: Khyaati Singh Subject: Re: Irrelevance thank you......... xo-khyaati-xo Mike Liacone wrote: > > I understand how important it is to keep on the topic of Soundgarden. > But what hasn't been covered??? I feel that if we want to talk about > something non-Soundgarden related, then why not???? We are all fans, > and this should be a forum for the fans. I'm not saying that > extensive threads on Days of the New is acceptable, but if we > concentrated on purely Soundgarden, this list would be chock full of > redundancy (like it already isn't). Well, that is my thought. And > no, I'm not a newbie, just a different name. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:31:26 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Rocket From The motha fuckin Crypt (sg content to follow) Ok... farg all this crap about SG only. This is about Rocket and some stories about the last SG tour. Ok... Now that you know what the email is about... let's start off with talking about Rocket. (ohh no... this part is not about SG. hehe) Rocket basically kicks major ass and i for one would like to thank SG for letting me have the chance to see Rocket from the first time live. Most of you remember em as a band with a guy on stage dancing around, a horn section, and matching clothes. First opinion you might of had was a ska band right???? That is way the hell off... they are a pure rock and roll (ex- Scream, Dracula, Scream! nuff said). They hail from my Home town of San Diego, CA and they put on a great show... has yet to be a let down. They are a small venue bad meaning the smaller the venue, the better the show. As of now they are recording and getting ready to release a bunch of 7" (a majority of their releases are on 7" and stuff. the reason for this is so they can get music out to the masses while keeping the purchase price low). I deffintly recommend you check em out... start with the SDS or Circa: Now! albums, give em a few listens and they grow on ya. For one of their videos they invited anyone and everyone to come and be in it, I went with my bro. and had a great time. They ain't no big rock stars that don't look out for their fans. During their opening bands you often catch them right in the middle of the crowd with you. Any way, at the video shoot i had a little chat with Atom, the drummer, and Speedo, the romantic lead and guitar (yes they don't use their real names). I asked Atom about their tour with Soundgarden and he had a little different story to tell than what most of us have heard. He said that it was the hardest tour he has ever done, actually the way he put it was, "It was HELL." Not because of all the SG fans throwing shit at em cause the fans were/are spoiled and are not open to hearing and talking about new music, but because he had to see all that went on between SG on the last tour. He said that soundgarden is one of his favorite bands and to have to see the arguing that went on was sad for him. Speedo agreed and had some other stuff to say about the tour but you don't want to hear it because it's not directly about Soundgarden so i will stop here. If we were aloud to talk about other bands like it's stated on Seth's page about the list ("Anyone interested in discussion of the band, their music and anything related is encouraged to subscribe." Notice the part about anything related????) then i would finish the story... but according to you all I'm not aloud to. Your loss. Bye. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 29 Jul 1999 to 30 Jul 1999 ************************************************