From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 28 Jul 1999 to 29 Jul 1999 Date: Thursday, July 29, 1999 2:01 AM There are 7 messages totalling 439 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. listening recommendation (2) 2. Days of the new. (4) 3. Spin's 90 Greatest Albums of the '90's To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:04:34 +1000 From: Mansel Ismay Subject: Re: listening recommendation Hey Ben Timberlake, I was reading your post and like.. whoa!! I totally = agree, except for one thing: My recommendation is that you listen to SU ( or any other album for that = matter) in surroundings that remind you of that time in your life - It = creates this weird emotional stronghold.=20 -Mansel P.S Has anyone heard of a band called Days of the New? I recommend them, = if you like AIC. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:48:55 +1200 From: Adrian Humphrey Subject: Days of the new. >P.S Has anyone heard of a band called Days of the New? I recommend them, if you like AIC. > I have. They're very, how do I put this, bad. Who sings a song about a shelf in a room?? I prefer the mastermind songwriting and musicianship talents of the SG boys. Travis Meeks pales in comparison... Adrian. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:44:54 +0800 From: "~*~" Subject: Spin's 90 Greatest Albums of the '90's Pasted from undercover.net.au (how the hell Hole managed #6, and SG #80 beats me). "Nirvana's 'Nevermind' is the most popular album of the 90's according to Spin Readers.The final countdown is an interesting list in that only two acts, Nirvana and PJ Harvey have more than one album rating a mention. Nirvana are at #1 with 'Nevermind' and #18 with 'In Utero'. PJ Harvey is at #3 with 'To Bring You My Love' and #37 with 'Rid Of Me'. 90's supergroups such as Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Red Hot Chili Peppers barely rate a mention in the list. Pearl Jam's only showing is at #33 with 'Ten', Red Hot Chili Peppers only rate a #58 for 'Blood Sugar Sex Majik' and poor old Soundgarden are almost forgotten down at #80 with 'Superunknown'. Even Smashing Pumpkins only claim one place with 'Siamese Dream' just making the Top 30. Rating much higher in the expensive seats are credible but non-commercial releases like Pavements 'Slanted and Enchanted' at #5 and My Bloody Valentines 'Loveless'.=20 We'd like to hear what your top 3 albums of the 90's are. List them at top3@undercover.net.au and we'll compile your list for tomorrows news. "THE 90 GREATEST ALBUMS OF THE 90's" =20 according to Spin. (1) Nirvana, Nevermind (1991)= =20 (2) Public Enemy, Fear of a Black Planet (1990)=20 (3) PJ Harvey, To Bring You My Love (1995)=20 (4) Beck, Odelay (1996)=20 (5) Pavement, Slanted and Enchanted (1992)=20 (6) Hole, Live Through This (1994)=20 (7) Bjork, Post (1995)=20 (8) Dr. Dre, The Chronic (1992)= =20 (9) Radiohead, OK Computer (1997)=20 (10) Chemical Brothers, Dig Your Own Hole (1997)=20 (11) Nine Inch Nails, Downward Spiral (1994)=20 (12) Beastie Boys, Check Your Head (1992)=20 (13) Liz Phair, Exile in Guyville (1993)=20 (14) Tricky, Maxinquaye (1995)= =20 (15) DJ Shadow, ...Endtroducing (1996)=20 (16) My Bloody Valentine, Loveless (1991)=20 (17) Fugees, The Score (1996)= =20 (18) Nirvana, In Utero (1993)= =20 (19) U2, Achtung Baby (1991)=20 (20) Moby, Play (1999)=20 (21) Sleater-Kinney, Dig Me Out (1997)=20 (22) Wu-Tang Clan, Enter The Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers (1993)=20 (23) Smashing Pumpkins, Siamese Dream (1993)=20 (24) Massive Attack, Blue Lines (1991)=20 (25) Various Artists, Return Of The DJ, Vols. 1&2 (1996, 1997)=20 (26) Rage Against The Machine, Rage Against The Machine (1992)=20 (27) The Notorious B.I.G., Ready To Die (1994)=20 (28) Lauryn Hill, The Miseducation of Lauren Hill (1998)=20 (29) Bob Dylan, Time Out Of Mind (1997)=20 (30) Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, The Supreme Collection Volume 1 (1997)=20 (31) Tori Amos, Little Earthquakes (1992)=20 (32) A Tribe Called Quest, The Low End Theory (1991)=20 (33) Pearl Jam, Ten (1991)=20 (34) Cornershop, When I Was Born for the 7th Time (1997)=20 (35) Outkast, Aquemini (1998)= =20 (36) Fugazi, Repeater (1990)=20 (37) PJ Harvey, Rid Of Me= (1995)=20 (38) Roni Size/ Reprazent, New Forms (1997)=20 (39) The Breeders, Last Splash (1993)=20 (40) R.E.M., Automatic For The People (1992)=20 (41) Sebadoh, Sebadoh III= (1991)=20 (42) Portishead, Dummy (1994)= =20 (43) Pulp, Different Class (1995)=20 (44) Sin=E9ad O'Connor, I Do No= t Want What I Haven't Got (1990)=20 (45) Basement Jaxx, Remedy (1999)=20 (46) Stereolab, Emperor Tomato Ketchup (1996)=20 (47) L.L. Cool J, Mamma Said Knock You Out (1990)=20 (48) Sublime, Sublime (1996)=20 (49) Maldita Vecindad Y Los Hijos Del Quinto Patio, El Circo (1991)=20 (50) Air, Moon Safari (1998)=20 (51) TLC, Crazysexycool (1994)= =20 (52) Metallica, Metallica= (1991)=20 (53) Green Day, Dookie (1994)= =20 (54) Bikini Kill, Bikini Kill EP (1992)=20 (55) Neil Young And Crazy Horse, Ragged Glory (1990)=20 (56) Aphex Twin, Selected Ambient Works 85-92 (1992), Selected Ambient Works Volume II (1994)=20 (57) Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill (1991)=20 (58) Red Hot Chili Peppers, BloodSugarSexMagik (1991)=20 (59) Sonny Sharrock, Ask The Ages (1991)=20 (60) The Prodigy, Music For The Jilted Generation (1994)=20 (61) Lucinda Williams, Car Wheels On A Gravel Road (1998)=20 (62) Pavement, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain (1994)=20 (63) Uncle Tupelo, No Depression (1990)=20 (64) Built To Spill, There's Nothing Wrong With Love (1995)=20 (65) Basehead, Play With Toys (1992)=20 (66) Missy Elliott, Supa Dupa Fly (1997)=20 (67) Tortoise, Millions Now Living Will Never Die (1996)=20 (68) Fatboy Slim, You've Come A Long Way Baby (1998)=20 (69) Slint, Spiderland (1991)= =20 (70) Soundgarden, Superunknown (1994)=20 (71) Buena Vista Social Club, Buena Vista Social Club (1997)=20 (72) Mary J. Blidge, My Life (1994)=20 (73) Elliott Smith, Either/Or (1997)=20 (74) De La Soul, De La Soul Is Dead (1991)=20 (75) Steve Earle, I Feel Alright (1996)=20 (76) Daft Punk, Homework (1997)= =20 (77) Boredoms, Super AE (1998)= =20 (78) Yo La Tengo, I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One (1997)=20 (79) Oasis, (What's The Story) Morning Glory (1995)=20 (80) Ice Cube, Amerikkka's Most Wanted (1990)=20 (81) Kristen Hersh, Hips And Makers (1994)=20 (82) The Orb, The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld (1991)=20 (83) Raekwon, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (1995)=20 (84) Lisa Germand, Geek The Girl (1994)=20 (85) Various Artists, Macro Dub Infection Volume I (1995)=20 (86) Dr. Octagon, Dr. Octagon (1997)=20 (87) Everything But The Girl, Walking Wounded (1998)=20 (88) Neutral Milk Hotel, In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (1998)=20 (89) Prince Paul, A Prince Among Thieves (1999)=20 (90) Cibo Matto, Viva! La Woman (1996)=20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:46:25 EDT From: Lizzy SubPOP Subject: Re: Days of the new. >From: Adrian Humphrey >Reply-To: Adrian Humphrey >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Days of the new. >Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:48:55 +1200 > > >P.S Has anyone heard of a band called Days of the New? I recommend them, >if you like AIC. > > > >I have. They're very, how do I put this, bad. Who sings a song about a >shelf in a room?? I prefer the mastermind songwriting and musicianship >talents of the SG boys. Travis Meeks pales in comparison... > >Adrian. Well everyones entitled to their own oppinion....but when I first saw the vid for Touch Peel and Stand I thought they were Sg wanabees...but then I got the album and their nothing alike.... Get the album and read the lyrics and you'll know its not as simple as just singing about a shelf in the room..... Travis doesn't even like SG or AIC anyway -Liz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:21:02 -0400 From: Khyaati Singh Subject: Re: listening recommendation days of the new.....yeah....i liked the few singles ("touch peel and stand"...."shelf in a room"....can't think of the name of the third one)...that i heard on radio stations a lot....but from what i know...the lead singer (who was only like 18 at that time....i guess recreational drugs makes you look a lot older eh?...."note to self...stop recreational drugs")....the lead singer fired everyone else in the band....kept the name days of the new....formed a whole new backup band...and is going to be coming out with an album soon....the rest of the members...however....also kept the name (but it's like "days of the new, mark two" or something like that)....and are looking for a new album deal..... xo-khyaati-xo Mansel Ismay wrote: > > Hey Ben Timberlake, I was reading your post and like.. whoa!! I totally agree, except for one thing: > My recommendation is that you listen to SU ( or any other album for that matter) in surroundings that remind you of that time in your life - It creates this weird emotional stronghold. > -Mansel > > P.S Has anyone heard of a band called Days of the New? I recommend them, if you like AIC. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:26:05 -0400 From: Khyaati Singh Subject: Re: Days of the new. give the guy a break.....he's only 18...i'm sure that for those of us who are writers/poets/whatever....you look at the stuff we do now...and it's wonderful...breath-taking....but look at stuff we did when we were pre-adults...(i'm guessing he wrote those when he was between the ages of 15-17...)....and the stuff will seem very juvinile....i'm sure that chris (the rock god that he is....please do not try and detect a hint of sarcasm because i love the words this man pens)...but i bet even chris....if we were to see his stuff from way back in the day (if he wrote any stuff then that is)....it was all probably good...for that frame of mind....but it was probably juvinille.... xo-khyaati-xo Adrian Humphrey wrote: > > >P.S Has anyone heard of a band called Days of the New? I recommend them, > if you like AIC. > > > > I have. They're very, how do I put this, bad. Who sings a song about a > shelf in a room?? I prefer the mastermind songwriting and musicianship > talents of the SG boys. Travis Meeks pales in comparison... > > Adrian. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:39:05 -0400 From: Khyaati Singh Subject: Re: Days of the new. getting back to adrian's little point...and adding to this....now in my books, chris can do no wrong...but...if you're going to make such a crude point as to say that "who writes about a shelf in a room"...well...tell me who writes about a rooster (aic)....who writes about ty cobb (a "bitchin" song) and focuses on lyrics that basically go on and on and on to repeat "hard headed fuck you all" (sg)....who writes about november rain (g'n'r)....who writes about experiencing a "love buzz" (nirvana)...who would write about a "porch" (pj)....don't get me wrong...i'm not a fan of days of the new...and meeks is no layne...cornell...vedder....etc....but i am defending him because if nothing else...he is a writer/poet/however you want to look at it...and you have to look at the words beyond the surface....and what they mean....you can never take anything for face value...especially in songs that deal with emotions....and are meant to deal with the writer's trauma....you've got to see the song for what they are writing about...not merely for the words that are put down....there's a reason that individual chose those words in that order....the metaphores...the passion....i'm sorry...i'm babbaling now....but i'm a strong believer in song being an extention of one's inner self...and song writers being poets....(writers of "baby one more time"...."livin la vida loca"...."steal my sunshine"...."the vengaboys"...etc....are excluded from this group of poetry song writers...ofcourse).... xo-khyaati-xo Lizzy SubPOP wrote: > > >From: Adrian Humphrey > >Reply-To: Adrian Humphrey > >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > >Subject: Days of the new. > >Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:48:55 +1200 > > > > >P.S Has anyone heard of a band called Days of the New? I recommend them, > >if you like AIC. > > > > > > >I have. They're very, how do I put this, bad. Who sings a song about a > >shelf in a room?? I prefer the mastermind songwriting and musicianship > >talents of the SG boys. Travis Meeks pales in comparison... > > > >Adrian. > > Well everyones entitled to their own oppinion....but when I first saw the > vid for Touch Peel and Stand I thought they were Sg wanabees...but then I > got the album and their nothing alike.... > Get the album and read the lyrics and you'll know its not as simple as just > singing about a shelf in the room..... > Travis doesn't even like SG or AIC anyway > > -Liz > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 28 Jul 1999 to 29 Jul 1999 ************************************************