From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 20 Jul 1999 to 21 Jul 1999 Date: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 2:02 AM There are 22 messages totalling 577 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Rage 2. single video theory 3. HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!?@#$!> (2) 4. HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS CORNELL 5. HAPPY BIRTHDAY DADDY! 6. Soundgarden mp3s??? 7. HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!?@#$!- (2) 8. helter skelter (4) 9. Helter Skelter 10. HAPPY B-DAY KING OF GRUNGE 11. Def Leppard - > Chris Cornell 12. football, porno, and books about war (2) 13. Def > Chris 14. the never-ending media machine 15. i met her on monday, t'was my lucky bun day.... 16. Def Leppard - - Chris Cornell To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:10:06 +1000 From: David Bittner Subject: Rage Hello SOMMSTERS, I wrote this at home and saved it to disk and am posting it now that I'm back at Uni., and I know it's been mentioned by 'Mansel' but here it is anyway. Living in Australia I was sitting at home watching Rage (all-night music program) on Saturday night (I know that's sad) and taped a couple of video clips. Then I thought if the next clip isn't Soundgarden I'm going to bed, as I stood up I heard the start of JCP and there's the clip! I thought 'what the fuck?'. Awesome! That's the only SG clip that was played as Marilyn Manson was guest programming, however Mr. Brian Warner has now earned brownie points with me (assuming he even knows who Soundgarden are). Anyhow, the JCP clip did contain a girl on a cross so I'm assuming this is an uncensored version, and I'm wondering what that Terminator-style robot is in the clip? I'm not saying it sucks, just wondering if the song was on that movie or something (??). Also, I have a version of Pretty Noose clip that was played here and it is censored in that it only contains the rope sliding across the sheets at the end. One more thing, I heard the BUTOW clip is banned in the US, is that true? I've taped it from TV here and it isn't censored despite its content, it is very good. The BHS clip here does not have a geletinous baby, however. Rage is awesome! Even the 'Smack My Bitch Up' clip got played, I think that's extraordinary. By the way Mansel, that L7 clip before JCP was 'Andres', one of the worst clips I have ever seen although it is a good piece of music. Dave The Noy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:48:34 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: single video theory Jon-Paul Andolina wrote: > In the few examples ive seen the song needs to be "gaining momentum" for the > record company (or whoever) shells out the cash for the video. The only > example of this I can think of is Weezer's song Pink Triangle....They said > if it didnt get alot of airplay there would be no video made (and it > didnt... hence no video). I dont know if it works this way for all singles > and bands but thats the way ive seen it I got a better example... When Rocket from the Crypt were reaching the release date of there newest album "RFTC" they were not positive on the song they were gonna release as the first single. They released 2 songs to the radio at the same time, "Break it Up" and "Lipstick", and let the listeners choose the song they liked the best and they would make that the first single off the new album. Here is the weird thing... before they even released the songs to radio, they went and shot the video for "Break it Up" (which i was lucky enough to be in. woo hoo). The reason they shat that video was because the had extra time before heading out on tour and they got money from the label Elemental, their UK label since Interscope was to big of a corporate mass and didn't want to fork out the money for a low budget video. That's the big labels for ya. Any way... they ended up having a completely different song, "When in Rome", as the first official single release in the UK while the US didn't get an official Single release. A few month later the "Lipstick" single was officially released in both the US and the UK. The video for that was in so limited release that it was only seen 2 or 3 times and only in the UK. Then a few months later "Break it Up" was officially released as a single in both the US and UK and the same thing happened to that video, it was in limited release in the UK only. Confusing huh???? that's what you should expect for Interscope. they bite. It sucks that Chris had to be put on Interscope. all i can say is this... don't expect to much publicity from Interscope for Chris' album... they could care less about promoting the album, as long as they get their money from the sale of the albums... I hate Major labels that start off cool and then once they start making money drop the very bands that made them popular and rich because one album didn't make as much money as the one before it. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:55:11 +1000 From: Mansel Ismay Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!?@#$!> HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!! Well I think there's more that could be added, but I think that generally gets the vibe by. Oh yeah, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY STONE!! (SG Connection: TOTD, Matt is drummin' for 'em) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 04:01:21 -0500 From: Joe Corroney Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!?@#$!> Happy 35th Birthday to the Dark Prince of Rock n' Roll, Christopher J. Cornell! (and happy birthday to me as i turned 26 yesterday) :) Shave your head and burn your sheets Evil could be right next door... -Joe ---------- >From: Mansel Ismay >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!?@#$!> >Date: Tue, Jul 20, 1999, 1:55 AM > >HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!! >Well I think there's more that could be added, but I think that generally >gets the vibe by. >Oh yeah, and >HAPPY BIRTHDAY STONE!! >(SG Connection: TOTD, Matt is drummin' for 'em) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 04:45:31 EDT From: Sarah Bucolic Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS CORNELL Today is a very joyous day. 35 years ago a very talented and gorgeous man was born. I just wanted to say Happy 35th birthday Chris. I hope all your wishes come true this year and I can't wait to hear the solo album. Maybe by some luck Chris will read the SOMMS list today. he he Well take care everyone and rock on fellow SG fans!!! Sarah P.S. It's pretty cool to have my birthday close to Chris' birthday. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:17:27 PDT From: Pretty Noose Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY DADDY! HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS CORNELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU DADDY!!!!!!!! The original pretty noose. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:18:45 EDT From: Lizzy SubPOP Subject: Re: Soundgarden mp3s??? >From: Sassy * >Reply-To: Sassy * >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Soundgarden mp3s??? >Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:53:49 PDT > >*breaks in amongst the banter* > >Hi Sommsters.. > >I was just wondering if anyone knew of any Soundgarden mp3 sites or sites >that have SG mp3s? A friend of mine is looking for 'The girl you want' but >can't find anything. I seem to remember someone posting that they had a >site >like this, unless I'm confusing you with another list?.. I've had a bit of >a >scour of the net but couldn't find a thing... any ideas??? > >Sassy Check out my site and go to the links page and click on soundgarden mp3's...that site is awesome http://www.angelfire.com/ak/grungelives -Liz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:21:14 EDT From: Lizzy SubPOP Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!?@#$!- >From: Joe Corroney >Reply-To: Joe Corroney >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!?@#$!> >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 04:01:21 -0500 > > Happy 35th Birthday to the Dark Prince of Rock n' Roll, Christopher J. >Cornell! >(and happy birthday to me as i turned 26 yesterday) :) > >Shave your head and burn your sheets >Evil could be right next door... > >-Joe Isn't Chris' b-day the 21st? My b-day is the 23rd:o) And happy b-day joe, hahaha -Liz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:44:14 PDT From: Ryan Gilbert Subject: helter skelter Hello Sommsters. I've heard a few bootlegs that have a song called Helter Skelter. Does anyone know anything about it? I've looked in the official and unofficial sites but I can't find anything at all. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:04:30 EDT From: Mike Liacone Subject: Re: helter skelter i can sense the usual "you dont know what helter skelter is?" thread. go easy on him. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:05:23 EDT From: Scott Levy Subject: Re: Helter Skelter That's a beatles song that they did on a copule of boots. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:11:14 EDT From: Niki Freer Subject: Re: helter skelter In a message dated 7/20/99 9:47:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, fopp10@HOTMAIL.COM writes: > I've heard a few bootlegs that have a song called Helter Skelter. Does > anyone know anything about it? yeah. it's a beatles song that SG covered during their final tour. the original version is Very much different than SG's alteration. Where soundgarden played it nice, slow, and sensual, taking the song to a much different level, the Beatles played a fast jumpy version. Sg truly made this cover their own song, in a way. mindriot ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:29:23 -0500 From: Joe Corroney Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!?@#$!- ---------- >From: Lizzy SubPOP >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!?@#$!- >Date: Tue, Jul 20, 1999, 11:21 AM > >>From: Joe Corroney >>Reply-To: Joe Corroney >>To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >>Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS!?@#$!> >>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 04:01:21 -0500 >> >> Happy 35th Birthday to the Dark Prince of Rock n' Roll, Christopher J. >>Cornell! >>(and happy birthday to me as i turned 26 yesterday) :) >> >>Shave your head and burn your sheets >>Evil could be right next door... >> >>-Joe > >Isn't Chris' b-day the 21st? >My b-day is the 23rd:o) >And happy b-day joe, hahaha > >-Liz His birthday was July 20,1964 at 7:01 a.m. weighing in at 8 pounds and 7 ounces... just kidding about those last two parts :) Happy (early) birthday to you to Lizzy! We cancer men and women have to stick to together.... peace out -Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:30:14 EDT From: Igor Nepomnyashchiy Subject: Re: helter skelter Once we are on the subject of Beatles covers... I recently became really enchanted with the song (both the SG cover versiona dn the Beatles original).... its really cool that SG actually added their own touch to the songs they covered... hwere comes the question: When did the Come Together cover appear? Is it on any official releases, or just bootlegs? Also, is there a list somewhere out there of every song SG ever covered.... and anopther list of every SG song ever covered? Thanks for the info -peace, love, and music -Igor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:38:18 PDT From: Joe Franks Subject: HAPPY B-DAY KING OF GRUNGE Man it seems a lot of people are having birthdays around this time. Mines coming up its the 25th. Happy Birthday to the KING OF MUSIC. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:03:07 EDT From: Igor Nepomnyashchiy Subject: Def Leppard - > Chris Cornell When did it change? I've been checking the site every few days but I just noticed it... any one know when exactly did they change it? thanx -igor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:13:04 EDT From: Chad Misselhorn Subject: football, porno, and books about war hey kiddies, i'm the worst newbie i don't really care anything about this soundgarden news i just am using you all for your emails whoever posted that stuff about the soundgarden mp3s well.. i downloaded one.. and the quality sucked the song did give me a hardon though so if you are a lonely sheep please respond i promise i won't shear you after you passout from the miles and miles of lovin and i will even send a thank you note to little bo peep is it just me or does thorough soundgarden addiction to the point of joining the mailing list suck the personality from your soul? chad 'kunderware' misselhorn and if chris is reading this: you better not have kids ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:26:40 PDT From: Joe Franks Subject: Def > Chris It changed about 2 or 3 days ago I think. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:39:05 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: Re: football, porno, and books about war In a message dated 7/20/99 3:16:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Chadlee23@aol.com writes: << football, porno, and books about war >> A-S-S-H-O-L-E Everybody A-S-S-H-O-L-E ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:08:26 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: the never-ending media machine I have recently been sucked into the corrupt media machine that is mainstream rock 'n' roll. that's right folks, i'm going to woodstock. i couldn't pass it up. i was just wondering if there were any other helpless souls who were embarking on the pilgrimage to Rome, NY, to join Live, Dave Matthews, Rage, Chili Peppers, Creed, Jamiroquai, Metallica, and many others in three days of music, sex, drugs, mtv, and exorbitant prices. let the mass sell out continue! --Mike-- "you know what i'm gonna do, I'm gonna get myself a 1967 cadillac el dorado convertible. hot pink. with whale skin hubcaps and all leather cow interior and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights. yeah! and i'm gonna drive around in that baby at 115 mph, getting 1 mile per gallon, suckin' down quarter pounder cheeseburgers from mcdonald's in the old-fashioned, non-biodegradeable styrofoam containers, and when i'm done suckin' down those greaseball burgers, i'm gonna wipe my mouth with the american flag, and then i'm gonna toss the styrofoam containers right out the side and there ain't a god damn thing anybody can do about it. you know why? cuz we've got the bombs, that's why. two words- nuclear fuckin' weapons, ok. russia, germany, romania, they can have all the democracy they want. they can have a big democracy cakewalk right through the middle of Tianimant Square and it won't make a lick of difference cuz we've got the bombs, ok! john wayne's not dead, he's frozen, and as soon as we find a cure for cancer, we're gonna thaw out the duke and he's gonna be pretty pissed off. you know why? have you ever taken a cold shower? well, multiply that by 15 million times, that's how pissed of the duke's gonna be. I'm gonna get the duke, and john cassevettes, and lee marvin, and sam peckindwarf, and a case of whiskey and drive down to texas..."-- denis leary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:11:49 EDT From: Niki Freer Subject: i met her on monday, t'was my lucky bun day.... hey sommsters. i've got some stuff for sale, i hate to use somms for this but i dont want to use ebay for it because that makes me feel.. weird. plus, the damn thing charges to sell things and i'm poor enough as it is! ;) anyhow, i've got a few vinyl things for sale... all prices are what i paid. shipping will probably be like... $2 or $3 extra. thats usually what it is for vinyl, at least what it's been for me. first come first serve, please put the name of the vinyl you want in the subject header cause i'm prone to deleting emails from people i dont know. Desert Sessions 3 [clear wax] 10''- $10 "Room 1000 Years Wide / HIV Baby" 7'' single [black] - $15 take care. mindriot ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:42:05 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Re: Def Leppard - - Chris Cornell >When did it change? I've been checking the site every few days but I >just >noticed it... any one know when exactly did they change it? >thanx >-igor You know, once this post concerns the actual importance of the existance of man, then I'll care. Stupid, meaningless post. And I'm glad I posted my thoughts. Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 20 Jul 1999 to 21 Jul 1999 ************************************************