From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 13 Jul 1999 to 14 Jul 1999 Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 2:01 AM There are 16 messages totalling 506 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. HIV Baby 2. Top 20 topic 3. Abbreviations (3) 4. irc (2) 5. I'm looking california... (2) 6. Abbreviations and a moustache (2) 7. my site is up! 8. 'old timers' 9. 10. Justin's Comment...SG Breakup Good? 11. split up To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:19:47 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: HIV Baby > From: W Q > Subject: HIV Baby > > I was listening to HIV Baby today on my way to work, and the bass > didn't sound like Ben. Remembering that the song was released on an early > single, I looked at the credits writeup for the song. Hiro played bass on > the song, but Ben wrote the music. I'm not a wretched "newbie," so if anyone > could shed some light on this without sarcastic undertones, it would be > greatly appreciated. Despite what the Born to Choose cover says, Ben plays it and wrote the music. (Whoever wrote the liner notes apparently went off of an old band membership list and neglected to get their facts straight). Chris wrote the lyrics (based on a comment Ben made to Kim, calling Kim "a real HIV baby" because he wouldn't share a drink out of the same glass as someone else). The main riff is one that Ben had been kicking around for years before joining SG and was something he launched into during their first rehearsal together. I'm not sure why you think it doesn't sound like Ben. It always sounded like Ben to me. It sure doesn't sound like Hiro. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:42:01 +1000 From: Mansel Ismay Subject: Top 20 topic Here's a suggestion for a topic, let's pretend it's July 1992. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:11:42 +0200 From: Jon Waltersson Subject: Abbreviations --------------5B9CAFFAD464ADAADC6A6B1D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rachel Reisman skrev: > I'll probably get my ass flamed for this, but I can't hold back an longer. > Is it just me or is anyone else curious to know what the hell this means??? > > <<>>> > > I have quite a few hypotheses but I doubt any of them are correct. > > Rachel* (IWIWSS) > (giver of Matt's new title :) > I won't flame your ass Rachel. On the contrary, I might get mine flamed for this: I think there are too many incomprehensible abbreviations used every now and then on this list. I do get what BHS, TotD, BTW etc stand for, but there are quite a few other abbreviations that keep me awake at nights. The fact that I'm not a native speaker may explain why I don't get it sometimes, but pretty often I think the abbreviations used are typical to this list (i.e. Soundgarden related) Of course I'm not saying that I'm not a SG fan, but if you haven't got an abbreviation explained to you in the first place, not even a smartass like me can figure out the meaning. (And no, of course I can't come up with very many good examples but some would be 'IMing', 'IWIWSS' amd 'j/k'.) Anyhows, I know I'm not the only non-native speaker in here, so please try to spend those extra 2 seconds it takes to write the entire word. That would make me not only a more versed person, but I'll also be able to sleep at nights ;) /Jon P.S Perhaps you guys can send your mails through a Swedish server and they'll come out in Swedish over here? heh.. :P --------------5B9CAFFAD464ADAADC6A6B1D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rachel Reisman skrev:
I'll probably get my ass flamed for this, but I can't hold back an longer.
Is it just me or is anyone else curious to know what the hell this means???

<<<sls*(into chris' fire she goes...)>>>>

I have quite a few hypotheses but I doubt any of them are correct.

Rachel* (IWIWSS)
(giver of Matt's new title :)
 

I  won't flame your ass Rachel. On the contrary, I might get mine flamed for this: I think there are too many incomprehensible abbreviations used every now and then on this list. I do get what BHS, TotD, BTW etc stand for, but there are quite a few other abbreviations that keep me awake at nights. The fact that I'm not a native speaker may explain why I don't get it sometimes, but pretty often I think the abbreviations used are typical to this list (i.e. Soundgarden related) Of course I'm not saying that I'm not a SG fan, but if you haven't got an abbreviation explained to you in the first place, not even a smartass like me can figure out the meaning. (And no, of course I can't come up with very many good examples but some would be 'IMing', 'IWIWSS' amd 'j/k'.)

Anyhows, I know I'm not the only non-native speaker in here, so please try to spend those extra 2 seconds it takes to write the entire word. That would make me not only a more versed person, but I'll also be able to sleep at nights ;)

/Jon

P.S Perhaps you guys can send your mails through a Swedish server and they'll come out in Swedish over here? heh.. :P --------------5B9CAFFAD464ADAADC6A6B1D-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:15:08 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Re: Abbreviations Before I explain the anagrams, I would just like to say congratulations for finally getting onto the internet. I know it must have been tough, but hey, it seems you're finally ready to surf the information superhighway.. > > <<>>> Soundgarden released Superunknown with a surprise for international listeners. Yes, I'm talking about SHE LIKES SURPRISES > > Rachel* (IWIWSS) > > (giver of Matt's new title :) Rachel points out at the end of every letter that "I wish I was Susan Silver", and I mean, who doesn't wish they were Susan Silver? :) Who's with me? >many good examples but some would be 'IMing', 'IWIWSS' amd 'j/k'.) IMing = Instant Messaging. J/K = Just Kidding. There's a post that's probably on the archives of some dude talking about all these obvious anagrams, and adding a few more silly ones...that's my nomination for the top post for SOMMS.. Outta here. Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:50:35 -0700 From: alexandre nanoglou Subject: irc Hi everybody if you have IRC you can chat on #soundgarden #chris cornell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:50:40 -0700 From: alexandre nanoglou Subject: irc Hi everybody if you have IRC you can chat on #soundgarden #chriscornell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:54:54 +1000 From: Justin NICHOLLS Subject: I'm looking california... On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Deborah Baker wrote: > the official website is up! so while it seems that we can't change him, his outward appearance has gone more than a little dave navarro. I read through the bio a couple of times and came up with a few things - that chris sounds pleased to have soundgarden in his rearview mirror; that yes, the split was not violent and that they all still get along; that chris or the bio writer or both wanted to make certain that we understand that this solo career will be "long" (sixth paragraph, first line), which is perhaps an attempt to knock those reformation rumors on the head; and that his apprehension over the new record and his new "direction" is obviously mirrored by our own. as fans of chris and soundgarden we all have concerns about _euphoria morning_. ultimately I think we will all have to leave our notions of what chris cornell sounds like at the door. this record will not sound like soundgarden. it will most likely have a soundgarden thread throughout, but in the end _euphoria morning_ will be chris' own record, and from what I read it will have very little in common with what we know of chris' previous work. and maybe that is a good thing. I have to say that I am glad soundgarden split up. it took a long time to realise this, but it's true (acceptance is surely the seed of growth). this is an exciting time for chris and an exciting time for us as fans. personally, I think it is better that these musicians are excited about and enlivened by their music, rather than simply searching for another way to repeat what they have already said. of course, there is the possibility that _euphoria morning_ is going to be less than what we hope for. unexpectedly, I am reassured by matt's latest work, _brotherhood of electric_. _brotherhood..._ is an absolute killer. it totally kicks my ass every time I play it. but more importantly it indicates that matt still has a very strong love for music and still has a lot to say artistically. his spirit is strong and thus his music is strong. and so I have great confidence in this new chris cornell record. it is time for him to stretch and it is time for us to expand our appreciation of him and his work. I look forward to _euphoria morning_ and applauding it's success. justin ------------------ q: is it easy kicking so much ass? a: yes, because there is so much ass to be kicked out there. -matt cameron, 1998 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:19:30 +0200 From: Jon Waltersson Subject: Re: Abbreviations and a moustache Dave George-Cosh skrev: > Before I explain the anagrams, I would just like to say congratulations for > finally getting onto the internet. I know it must have been tough, but hey, > it seems you're finally ready to surf the information superhighway.. okies, thanx Dave and Arden for straightening (some) things out for me. And a special thank you goes to Dave for saying congratulations to me. The thing is I've been on the Net for a couple of years now, and I've never seen so many abbreviations anywhere (ICQ, IRC etc) as I have in here. (That's my reason for my last post. So...I just have to say that I'm not a newbie, coz for some reason this seems to be rather important to point out considering the flaming that's been going on lately) Anyway, I'm off to a _good_ nights sleep...and tonite I'll be able to sleep tight for all of you. ;) But before I'm off: What's the opinion of Cornells moustache? (BM era) I sort of think of German Heavy Metal fans when I see a guy with a moustache. (No offence Germans!) Perhaps he wore that moustache as a joke? I mean...is there anyone who really think it looks good? (I've been thinking of growing one myself for one reason only - the fun of it.) Well well...I better be off. / Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:48:36 EDT From: James Connolly Subject: Re: Abbreviations and a moustache hey, i can't believe i'm replying to this, since it was (hopefully) not written too seriously in the first place. i think chris' moustache is pretty cool. chris looks so good with facial hair, i'm jealous. off to commit suicide, jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:58:05 EDT From: Lizzy SubPOP Subject: my site is up! Hey fellow SG fans......My Site is finally up....its not THAAAAT great but I think u ppl would appreciate it.....Anyway please go check it out whenever u want.... http://www.angelfire.com/ak/grungelives Thanx And don't forget to sign the guest book Later -Liz- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:25:45 PDT From: Joe Franks Subject: Re: Abbreviations IMing, IWIWSS and j/k IMing = Instant Messaging (something on aol) j/k = joking iwiwss = beats me (i wish i was (ss?)) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:31:13 EDT From: Geek Girl Subject: 'old timers' << Once upon a time this list was fun. Fun like you could not imagine a mailing list to be. Unfortunately, a lot of the original list members are no longer around. >> That may be true for some... but I think that the majority of us old timers still remain on the list.. but now are just silent bystanders. Alot of us don't have the time to keep up with the list and don't have much to say. There are a few exceptions to that and it's good to see names that I recognize when reading through the posts.... glad you guys are still around ( you know who you all are ) anyway.. thats just my 2 cents worth.. and the first time that I have even posted to the list in over a year a half... Hello to all.... now back to the shadows to lurk. Dena :)~ ** Point of Email ** To say hello to everyone out on the list who still knows who the heck I am. ** Soundgarden content ** Still love Soungarden and I'm totally looking forward to Chris's solo this year ( whenever that may be ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:18:45 PDT From: Ryan Gilbert Subject: Re: I'm looking california... >I have to say that I am glad soundgarden split up. it took a long time to >realise this, but it's true (acceptance is surely the seed of growth). I can't say I agree with you on that one, Justin. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:59:10 +1200 From: Adrian Humphrey Subject: >>I have to say that I am glad soundgarden split up. it took a long time to >>realise this, but it's true (acceptance is surely the seed of growth). > > >I can't say I agree with you on that one, Justin. > I'd say most people on this list would disagree with Justin. Adrian. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:24:53 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Justin's Comment...SG Breakup Good? > >>I have to say that I am glad soundgarden split up. it took a long time >to > >>realise this, but it's true (acceptance is surely the seed of growth). > > > > > >I can't say I agree with you on that one, Justin. > > > >I'd say most people on this list would disagree with Justin. > >Adrian. I don't know. I mean, we are getting more music from the band members (wellwater, chris, possible b-sides, ben's bass duty) then if they were still together. And if SG was still together, they would still continue to bicker at each other, and there's a chance that could lead to bad music. I'd rather have SG broken up, with my SG albums filled chockfull with great music, then SG still together, making crappy music. Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:24:10 -0700 From: "J.C." Subject: Re: split up > >>I have to say that I am glad soundgarden split up. > it took a long time to > >>realise this, but it's true (acceptance is surely > the seed of growth). > > > > > >I can't say I agree with you on that one, Justin. > > > > I'd say most people on this list would disagree with > Justin. I agree with Justin to a point. I'm glad they broke up in that it allows the guys a greater chance to do other creative things away from Soundgarden for a while and it's good that they stopped it BEFORE things started going stale. Quit while your ahead they say. BUT, I'd still like to see them get back together in a couple of years after the break. Chances are they'd be better than ever. I'm not especially confident of that happening though. Jay. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 13 Jul 1999 to 14 Jul 1999 ************************************************