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Topics of the day:

  1. JCP and BHS
  2. videos (2)
  3. Chris touring???

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jul 1999 02:45:19 -0400
From:    jenny grover <sleeveless@CITYNET.NET>
Subject: Re: JCP and BHS

Ryan Gilbert wrote:

> I was wondering about a few things lately, mostly about the
> videos banned from MTV. I've never seen the Jesus Christ Pose video or the
> unedited version of the one for Black Hole Sun.  So I have no idea why they
> were censored. Could someone please tell me what was in those 2 videos that
> MTV found objectionable?

Okay, first of all, JCP wasn't entirely banned.  It aired more than once
on Headbangers Ball.  I read that it wasn't shown in regular rotation or
for very long because the image of a crucified woman might be mistaken
by some to be misogynist.

Secondly, there was nothing in the BHS video that was considered
objectionable.  It was not banned or censored.  There was a version
released that had less of the computer "morphing" in it first, and then
the more complete version was released later.

On the other hand, the Frank Kozik version of the Pretty Noose video was
censored and reworked at the end because MTV didn't want to show a rope
and a dead girl, although the Canadians had no such qualms.  In the
unedited version, near the end you see a rope slide across the sheets
and when Chris is sitting on the edge of the bed there is the dead devil
girl, her face and most of her body covered by a sheet.  I think they
probably just digitized it out so it looks like just sheets.

To my knowledge, the only other editing of SG videos was done to shorten
the length (just like commercial radio often uses shorter edits), so
Spoonman was shortened to cut out some of the spoon solo, and Outshined
had part of the guitar solo cut.  Hope that answers some of your
questions.

Jen

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:12:35 -0400
From:    Anne Beyeler <abey@SPRINT.CA>
Subject: videos

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Hi friends! Hard to know exactly why SG's videos were banned by some,
most found the religious content of JCP to be offensive. They obviously
misinterpreted it. BHS on the version I've seen, has this girl with a =
serpent's
tongue, and end of the world scenarios with people literally being =
sucked up
into this "black hole" thingy. Also this baby turning into a gelatinous =
blob!!
What's to censor?? =3D)

annie

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jul 1999 20:06:10 EDT
From:    Blaine McCarthy <MarbMan668@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: videos

regaurdless the video was badass...end of stpory..who cares about a little
part that was censored??

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Date:    Sun, 4 Jul 1999 02:13:42 +0100
From:    alan ball <edge@BASE85.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Subject: Chris touring???

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I've heard one or two things about Chris touring when his solo album is =
released.
I live in the UK and the chances of a UK tour maybe quite slim, so I am =
prepared to travel to the US to see him (lets face it who knows how many =
times he's gonna tour?) so you've got to go when you have the chance, =
huh?
So, does anyone have more info on what places he might play etc....  so =
I can get an idea of where to go and what venues to look out for.

Alan.

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