From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 25 Jun 1999 to 26 Jun 1999 Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 2:01 AM There are 24 messages totalling 733 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. videos (5) 2. lunch winner (2) 3. UK single (3) 4. video (7) 5. SOMMS Digest - 24 Jun 1999 to 25 Jun 1999 6. BUTOW on VH1 7. Vote for Pretty Noose 8. A&M to sue Universal (very loose connection to Soundgarden :-) 9. Hype on Muchmusic? 10. Goodbye Mud & other new clips 11. Knock it off... To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:23:42 -0400 From: Anne Beyeler Subject: videos This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BEBEDB.A73F2080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi friends! Someone out there seems to be forgetting this obsession the US has with a little something we call censorship. The real videos of BHS, Outshined, and Pretty Noose, so far as I`ve seen, have only been played in Canada. With a few exceptions of course, but the=20 point being that it`s a sad state of affairs when a band like this is forced to make 2 versions of a video b/c the original is banned in their own country! We see so much worse in the movies and in=20 real life, how is JCP going to warp minds? Just my 2cents, 1.3cents CDN. annie ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BEBEDB.A73F2080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = friends!

Someone out = there seems=20 to be forgetting this obsession the US

has with a = little=20 something we call censorship. The real videos of

BHS, = Outshined, and=20 Pretty Noose, so far as I`ve seen, have only

been played = in Canada.=20 With a few exceptions of course, but the

point being = that it`s a=20 sad state of affairs when a band like this is

forced to = make 2 versions=20 of a video b/c the original is banned in

their own = country! We see=20 so much worse in the movies and in

real life, = how is JCP=20 going to warp minds? Just my 2cents, 1.3cents

CDN.

annie

------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BEBEDB.A73F2080-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:46:33 GMT From: -The Cat- Subject: Re: videos >From: Anne Beyeler >Reply-To: Anne Beyeler >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: [SOMMS] videos >Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:23:42 -0400 > >Hi friends! > >Someone out there seems to be forgetting this obsession the US >has with a little something we call censorship. The real videos of >BHS, Outshined, and Pretty Noose, so far as I`ve seen, have only >been played in Canada. Outshined and BHS were censored? I don't remember them being so... /\ /\ 'o' -The Cat- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Ask The Cat page: http://come.to/askthecat -newly updated! c'mon, you know you wanna click! :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:28:51 EDT From: Adriana Vazquez Subject: Re: videos In a message dated 6/25/99 4:22:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, abey@sprint.ca writes: << Hi friends! Someone out there seems to be forgetting this obsession the US has with a little something we call censorship. The real videos of BHS, Outshined, and Pretty Noose, so far as I`ve seen, have only been played in Canada. >> I've seen all three videos in the U.S, and they don't seem cut to me... what are missing from them? -Adriana ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:25:36 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: Re: videos In a message dated 6/25/99 7:22:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, abey@sprint.ca writes: << The real videos of BHS, Outshined, and Pretty Noose, so far as I`ve seen, have only been played in Canada. >> I may be going crazy here, but I don't believe Black Hole Sun or Outshined were ever censored for anything. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:27:59 -0700 From: "Barbara L. Strong" Subject: lunch winner I agree with Toni. Give it a rest. I recall Vicki telling us her and HER BOYFRIEND were going together to have lunch with Chris. And I also recall a good number of list members dogging her out for paying such a large amount of money to have lunch with him, like she was paying for a prostitute or something. Maybe she got sick of hearing all the bull shit and decided not to share her experience with all the list critics out there. And maybe, just maybe she doesn't give a fuck about what you all think. > ><< I heard that a guy won that lunch with Chris Cornell, but I could be > > wrong. > > Rock on fellow SG fans!!! > > Sarah >> > > > >I heard that too, his name was Mike something.... I didn't realize someone on > >the list tried to pull that off. go figure. > >-Adriana > > Where have you guys been hanging out..... Outer Mongolia???? Yes, we had > a winner on this list. HER name is Vikki. She is a looooooooong time Somms > member. Whenever she and Chris have their "lunch" I'm sure Vikki will let > us know. She has always been one to share her experiences and stories with > us quite eloquently. > And for all you green-eyed monsters who want to accuse others of lying. > You are behaving like quite an ass! Be happy for someone's good > fortune...the good fortune may smile back at you! I'm old I can say these > profound things!! toni > Watch out for spies!!!! > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:24:24 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: UK single I'm probably talking to myself here :-) but Can't Change Me will be released as a single in good old Blighty on August 30th (source: Kerrang! of course). No info on the B side - my hunch is it may be Sunshower - or what/how many formats there will be. The album itself is out here 20th September - a whole day before the USA! Deb :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:02:51 -0500 From: Amy Subject: Re: UK single Deborah Baker wrote: > I'm probably talking to myself here :-) but Can't Change Me will be released > as a single in good old Blighty on August 30th (source: Kerrang! of course). > No info on the B side My guess is that there won't be one (though I hope I'm wrong). They'll make us wait for the rest of the songs. Amy > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:04:30 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: UK single Amy wrote: > My guess is that there won't be one (though I hope I'm wrong). They'll make us > wait for the rest of the songs. The b-side is gonna be a solo version of "Black Hole Sun" and "Mind Riot". Both recorded live from the US tour's of their respective years. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:51:42 -0300 From: Psycho Subject: Re: video "My vote goes for Pretty Noose, not-the-one-where-the-band-is-playing version, since I've never seen the whole thing. -The Cat" my vote goes for pretty noose too. preety n. is the coolest videoclip i've ever seen. -psycho brazilian and huge sgarden fan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:59:26 EDT From: Kyle Daly Subject: videos >Outshined and BHS were censored? I don't remember them being so... Well, they weren't censored in the same way as JCP, but they were edited for content. Actually, every Soundgarden video ever to air has been edited for content. -Kyle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:16:07 EDT From: Kyle Daly Subject: video Well two people voted Pretty Noose, plus I haven't seen the whole thing, only a clip, so I choose PN, and since it aired very few times, I'm sure most other people have either never seen it or only seen part of it, so how about it? If anyone wants another video, send in some feedback, but right now, I think Pretty Noose stands. As for the date, everyone go to http://www.mtv.com/mtv/tubescan/trl99_new and vote for Pretty Noose on July 3rd or 4th. That way, since it's a weekend, it gives people two days to vote instead of just a few hours of one day, plus we can celebrate a new week with Soundgarden if it airs on Monday. Remember, tell your friends to vote for it too. -Kyle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:21:30 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: video Kyle Daly wrote: > > Well two people voted Pretty Noose, plus I haven't seen the whole thing, only > a clip, so I choose PN, and since it aired very few times, I'm sure most > other people have either never seen it or only seen part of it, so how about > it? If anyone wants another video, send in some feedback, but right now, I > think Pretty Noose stands. As for the date, everyone go to > http://www.mtv.com/mtv/tubescan/trl99_new and vote for Pretty Noose on July > 3rd or 4th. That way, since it's a weekend, it gives people two days to vote > instead of just a few hours of one day, plus we can celebrate a new week with > Soundgarden if it airs on Monday. Remember, tell your friends to vote for it > too. > -Kyle I hate to break it to you all... but it's not gonna work. Mtv are bastards and only play the current stuff. I have given up all hope of seeing something older than a year on the station. I don't even bother watching it now. So don't get your hopes all up cause it's not gonna work. there is a small, and i mean small, chance it will work but it has yet to work when others have tried to flood em with a video request. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net:80/asnod/ |---------------------------------------------------------------| | "Everybody likes my stuff! Everybody knows that I can rock! | | Everybody knows that I can whip a horse's ass! | | Everybody in my general time knows that I can rock good. | | And as I rock well, I'm going to rev it up!" | | | | - Wesley Willis | |---------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:30:25 EDT From: Eric Odegaard Subject: Re: SOMMS Digest - 24 Jun 1999 to 25 Jun 1999 >Guys, why bother? Its not going to happen. The only chance a SG video has of getting on that show is if it's voted for around the time a little before Cornell's solo album comes out. The NKOTB thing worked because two ex-members were launching solo careers. But when people tried to vote for Nirvana and/or Pearl Jam around the first week of April, it failed (and there was lots of people voting, enough to make the countdown), since current album sales and radio airplay also determine what video get on, along with video requests. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:05:25 PDT From: The Koggle Subject: Re: video God.. enough already. For those of you that are new, a whole bunch of SOMMSters tried to do this (or talked about trying to do it) and eventually gave up.. I for one am getting sick of hearing how "oh no maybe not this video, how about that one" "i'll be in that" "me too" "me three" Just DO IT and hope for the best.. But remember MTV is not the centre of the universe and nor should it be.. blah.. i'm not as good at wisdom stuff as toni ;) Kogg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:34:29 EDT From: Kevin Chang Subject: BUTOW on VH1 I'm not sure if this is going to get to anyone on time, but VH1's Rockshow is going to play Blow Up The Outside World in like 10-20 minutes. Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 22:48:54 GMT From: -The Cat- Subject: Vote for Pretty Noose Okay people, whether you like it or not, we're voting for Pretty Noose. :) >think Pretty Noose stands. As for the date, everyone go to >http://www.mtv.com/mtv/tubescan/trl99_new and vote for Pretty Noose on July >3rd or 4th. That way, since it's a weekend, it gives people two days to >vote >instead of just a few hours of one day Bad idea. Many of us will be busy the 4th of July weekend. Plus, I notice that SOMMS gets few messages on the weekends, so a better idea would probably be this coming Monday - Friday. I'm going to probably throw up a page where you can vote for Pretty Noose just by clicking one button....I'm not making any promises though. I'm looking at the HTML source of the MTV site and I don't know if it's possible, but maybe there's a way around that. /\ /\ 'o' -The Cat- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Ask The Cat page: http://come.to/askthecat -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:59:18 -0300 From: Psycho Subject: Re: video >Well two people voted Pretty Noose, plus I haven't seen the whole thing, >only a clip, so I choose PN, and since it aired very few times, I'm sure >most other people have either never seen it or only seen part of it, so >how about it? If anyone wants another video, send in some feedback, >but right now, I think Pretty Noose stands. As for the date, everyone go >to http://www.mtv.com/mtv/tubescan/trl99_new and vote for Pretty Noose >on July 3rd or 4th. That way, since it's a weekend, it gives people two >days to vote instead of just a few hours of one day, plus we can >celebrate a new week with Soundgarden if it airs on Monday. >Remember, tell your friends to vote for it too. -Kyle sure, i've just voted... but I think they wont accept 'cause im from brazil... "diamond rope, silver chain, pretty noose is a pretty pain" -psycho ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:10:39 -0400 From: michele Subject: Re: video Yes, some of soundgarden the videos were edited such as Outshined. There is an USA version & a Canadian version. Basically a few scenes were taken out here & there. Go check the video clips out for yourselves. http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/multimedia/video/index-mv.html Michele~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:00:52 EDT From: Adriana Vazquez Subject: Re: lunch winner << In a message dated 6/25/99 1:35:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cpsc@FLASH.NET writes: << I agree with Toni. Give it a rest. I recall Vicki telling us her and HER BOYFRIEND were going together to have lunch with Chris. And I also recall a good number of list members dogging her out for paying such a large amount of money to have lunch with him, like she was paying for a prostitute or something. Maybe she got sick of hearing all the bull shit and decided not to share her experience with all the list critics out there. And maybe, just maybe she doesn't give a fuck about what you all think.>> Oooh and maybe i don't give a fuck what you think.... you know, i made a mistake sending that letter about Vicki; I was suspicious because I heard someone else had won, a man. After I sent it, though, Toni e-mailed me personally and told me that Vicki had won, so there must be more than one winner... so butt out. Its not your place to straighten things out anyway... If Vicki has a problem with what I said, she can deal with me herself... I'm sure she appreciates your pathetic attempt at putting-down everyone, but it really isn't necessary. I really had no idea that there were more than one auction for the lunches... and knowing that now, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't lie about it. Most people, however, aren't as pitiably trusting as you are. -Adriana ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:07:55 EDT From: Niki Freer Subject: Re: A&M to sue Universal (very loose connection to Soundgarden :-) UKdeb, goddess extrodiare :) interestingly wrote: > Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss, the "A" and "M" in A&M > Records, are expected to file a $20 million breach of contract suit against > Seagram and its Universal Music Group, claiming that the label has been > destroyed in the months following Seagram's acquisition of PolyGra ya know i did a little more thinking about this and i think it's more than loosely connected to SG. well. look at it like this...... look how up in arms WE the simple fans are about one single artist from A&M. apparently, and i've heard some random snippets of God Lives Underwater stuff [a friend of mine is buddies with the singer] and they haven't been getting sh*t for attention either. I can't imagine the A and M of A&M being happy with it, really, since all i've ever heard about the label was it's relationship with its signed artists was very good. So, this being said, that latest blowup in the LA Times about Ricky Martin and chris cornell and Britney spears and all that jazz might have been the final straw.... maybe this was all in the works before hand. shrug. interseting, though, deb. very much so, thank you for posting it. ps- about the single as well.... we all know we'll end up buying it, annoyed by the delay or not. :) not always a bad thing. mindriot ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:18:29 -0230 From: Marc Hollett Subject: Hype on Muchmusic? Anyone have the pleasure of seeing Hype! on Muchmusic the other night? I thought it was pretty cool. Stumbled on it at a party. What are the odds? :) -------------------------------------- Marc Hollett mhollett@mindless.com Webmaster of "Temple of The Garden" http://soundgarden.musicpage.com ICQ #: 10063637 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:43:57 PDT From: Monnica Lewis Subject: Re: video >>To hell with that! I say, scare them into better music! :). That's >how I got >into Soundgarden anyway....well, actually, I was repulsed by most of the >songs on Superunknown when I first listened to it. Maybe we'll get some new >fans by this voting stunt? > NEW FANS?! NO!! SOUNDGARDEN IS MINE! MIIINNNE!! I'm okay now. Anyway, I agree with Eric, MTV might consider playing some SG stuff when his album is released otherwise, don't hold your breathe. MTV, like most radio stations, is just a marketing tool. They pander to people who's life revolves around "being cool" and jumping on the latest bandwagon. Monnica _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 00:15:41 EDT From: Niki Freer Subject: Goodbye Mud & other new clips hello dearest sommsters. man. sad day... Matt Lukin left mudhoney within the past couple days, and=20 Mudhoney left Reprise as well. all of it's been confirmed blah blah you can=20 read an allstar article about it here: http://cdnow.com/allstararticle/fid=3D10581 damn shame to lose mudhoney. they really were a few of the most memorable an= d=20 fun shows i've ever attended. have fun lukin! And now, directly relating all of this to WWC and Mr. Cameron. ok, in a Mtv=20 release of the Mudhoney semi-break-up / Lukin leaving news, the website=20 reported that: "Inside sources say Turner is also about to link up with the Wellwater=20 Conspiracy, a band anchored by former Soundgarden members Ben Shepherd and=20 Matt Cameron." taken from:: http://mtv.com/news/headlines/990624/story12.html BUT wait! theres more! Issue numero tres: the new Pearl Jam record. according to an allstar=20 interview with Jeff Ament:: "When asked what differences fans might expect from the new Pearl Jam=20 material, Ament points to the newest member of the band, drummer Matt=20 Cameron, a longtime friend of the band=92s who actually played -- with Ament=20 and guitarists Stone Gossard and Mike McCready -- on the first Pearl Jam=20 demos, including the earliest versions of "Alive," "Black," and "Once."=20 "That=92s going to be the big difference on the record," boasts Ament. "We= =92re=20 going to utilize Matt=92s strengths." and that is at:: =20 http://p0.com/r.d?kh0Buy8wE=3D/cdnow.com/allstararticle/fid=3D10661 yep, that's the news for now.=20 mindriot ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:15:15 EDT From: Tammy Read Subject: Knock it off... Damn -- what the fuck is with 99.9% of the posts ending up in an argument? It's either a stupid post/idea, so and so is lying, or whatever. Move on. We got pass the "if you don't like it, delete it" yeah well, you can only delete so many e-mails before you start wondering why you even bother with a mailing list. I think everyone on this list is great, you're all super cool people -- but you gotta start looking at comments in more than one perspective, not just the negative side of what you see. We all don't think alike, we all don't agree/disagree on the same topics. A lot of this stuff is based on opinions, which is cool. But nobody on here or anywhere else has the right to criticize someone else for sharing what's on their mind. There's a respectful manner to tell someone else that you don't agree, try it sometime. Sit back, relax and enjoy a cup of whatever you like. September is coming up quicker than we all think it is. Till then, have a great day/evening/night. <3, Tammy ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 25 Jun 1999 to 26 Jun 1999 ************************************************