From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 28 Apr 1999 to 29 Apr 1999 Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 2:00 AM There are 7 messages totalling 265 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Soundgarden on ESPN (2) 2. Bad Shows 3. Second Coming 4. Meeks and Cornell 5. Fell On Black Days/Until It Sleeps 6. chris's new album.. on tv To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 03:01:57 -0500 From: Ben Timberlake Subject: Soundgarden on ESPN On "NHL tonight" (on ESPN 2) for Tuesday, one of the hosts during the player of the night type thing said, "What Chris Cornell was to Soundgarden, Vaclav Varada was to the Buffalo Sabers tonight". Some writer at ESPN2 like soundgarden, I guess. Also, VH1 begins some new rock-type show on monday (I think it may be where they show more hard-rock-oriented videos), but on the commercial for it there are three quick clips from the Black Hole Sun video. So maybe, just maybe, we'll be seeing more soundgarden on VH1; but I bet they won't be playing, for instance, "Flower" ;) BTW, I've enjoyed all the suggested soundgarden experiences so far, i'm all for keeping 'em coming. -- Ben Ben Timberlake Too Late! btimlake@nwu.edu "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest..." -- Hamlet, V.i. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:51:58 -0700 From: "J.C." Subject: Re: Bad Shows Interesting point's you raise. Probably the only negative thing I've ever had against Soundgarden (or Chris at least) is the attitude to touring. I've read Chris saying in interviews, that on long tours he would have to get drunk before a show to able to do it, and would often forget lyrics and stuff. He said this light heartedly as if it was perfectly acceptable. But it's not. Most people will get bugger all opportunities to see their fav bands play live, and they don't deserve to be disapointed by a crappy show. Some of these bands just don't seem to realise they are playing to different crowds on these tours, they just see each crowd as the same, and so it doesn't matter if they do a rubbish show tonight, because they'll do a better one tommorrow. But the people who paid exactly the same amount for the rubbish show won't get to see a good show. If you're going to charge money for people to see you, you'd better be bloody professional about what your doing. If they're not prepared to deliver a quality show every time they go out on these tours, then they shouldn't do so many venues, or maybe not tour at all. This is not only aimed at Soundgarden, but any of these bands who aren't consistant. It seems to be a 'rock' thing. Aw well, enough hand wringing. J.C. > To address Adrian's remarks about seeing a bad > show... I remember seeing > Soundgarden do a pretty lousy performance out here > in 96 (Lollapalooza, > Quebec city)!! Of course, we can start speculating > all over again about > what reasons caused these shows... But hey, everyone > has a bad day here and > there, and every band has a bad show once in a > while. But I do understand > your frustration Adrian. I saw Travis Meeks (Days > of the New) last year > here in Quebec city. He entered the stage flat > drunk and really screwed up > the whole show (I had seen them do a really good one > two days before in > Montreal). Watching the show felt like such a waste > of time... At least I > had seen a good one before! === 'Our audience is pretty diverse. Originally, most of our fans were art students or punk rockers, and then we started getting skaters and metal kids and even some people with no particular haircut whatsoever' -Chris Cornell, Soundgarden (1989) 'Were you born worthless, or did you have to work at it?' -Sgt Hartman (Full Metal Jacket) 'I have done the vilest things, the foulest things, but I have done them, superbly.' -June Miller (Henry and June) 'Oh forgive me for prattling away and making everything all oogy.' -Annie Wilkes (Misery) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:18:39 -0400 From: Adrian Subject: Re: Second Coming My point about their live show wasn't to say that maybe they were off that night. Each tune I've heard from the band, especially "Vintage Eyes," sounds like someone else before them. ________________________________________________________________________ Adrian age@alfheim.net http://www.alfheim.net/~age/ Rock 'n' roll shouldn't just be like some feelgood movie that makes you forget how dull your life is for an hour or so ... it should fire you up to do something about it. - Darren White ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1981 15:05:13 -0400 From: Marc Potvin Subject: Meeks and Cornell > > Maybe it had something to do with his Metallica experience. With all the > taunting and hazing that they inflicted upon Days of the New, I'd play > drunk too. Then again, I think Travis Meeks is an arrogant asshole and > that he deserved it. I mean, he took credit for everything regarding > Days of the New and fires/re-hires his band at will. Make up your mind > Travis! > > -Elliott > Anyone who thinks that Days of the New is a band is quite wrong. Meeks IS Days of the New (said so in an interview october 98). He said he's a kind of Lenny Kravitz, that the other members (except for the bassist or drummer) do not contribute at all when it comes to writing songs... blabblablab. Anyway, to sum it all up, he has talent and I like his stuff. As for his attitude, well... The shows I saw were held before the Metallica tour. The funiest thing about the Montreal show was that before they hit the stage, a whole group of about 30 or 40 people were screaming "CHRIS CORNELL! CHRIS CORNELL! CHRIS CORNELL!" I approached one of them and asked why they were screaming that. He told me that they all thought that Travis looked like Chris and that they were all fans of Soundgarden. :) Rediscovered SOMMS today. I had not listened to it in nearly a year. It brought back some pretty good memories. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:11:07 -0400 From: Kim Subject: Fell On Black Days/Until It Sleeps Does anyone know why the demo for Metallica's 'Until It Sleeps' was called 'Fell On Black Days'? Just curious. -Elliott ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:04:56 +0200 From: hans Subject: chris's new album.. on tv --------------E676076254700DEEBB906893 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no real news actually but today on Swedish television (yes, we do have it here too), there were some news on cornell's upcoming solo album, mainly that there's a song on it that's dedicated to jeff buckley. read about it (in swedish): http://www.svt.se/vaxjo/musikbyran/nyheter.html --------------E676076254700DEEBB906893 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no real news actually
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http://www.svt.se/vaxjo/musikbyran/nyheter.html --------------E676076254700DEEBB906893-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:44:47 -0500 From: Amy Subject: Re: Soundgarden on ESPN Ben Timberlake wrote: > On "NHL tonight" (on ESPN 2) for Tuesday, one of the hosts during the > player of the night type thing said, "What Chris Cornell was to > Soundgarden, Vaclav Varada was to the Buffalo Sabers tonight". Some > writer at ESPN2 like soundgarden, I guess. > > Compliment? Sorry. I don't know anything about basketball (obviously) > and didn't know if it was a compliment or if there was sarcasm in > that last sentence of yours. > Must start watching basketball even though I hate it. Obsessive isn't > it? > Also, VH1 begins some new rock-type show on monday (I think it may be > where they show more hard-rock-oriented videos), but on the commercial > for it there are three quick clips from the Black Hole Sun video. So > maybe, just maybe, we'll be seeing more soundgarden on VH1; but I bet > they won't be playing, for instance, "Flower" ;) I saw that. I don't know why they keep saying it will start coming on in May. It already comes on. 12 (central time) I believe. They played Rusty Cage last night. It all went down hill from there, of course. I hope they play Flower, too. Maybe if they were bombarded with enough e-mail......I know this wouldn't have worked with that god-awful little mtv request show like somebody pointed out a while back but this is a little different. Amy ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 28 Apr 1999 to 29 Apr 1999 ************************************************