From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 8 Feb 1999 to 9 Feb 1999 Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 1:59 AM There are 14 messages totalling 482 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Baracuda 2. whispers of the Matt-sessions 3. FOPP 4. Rolling Stone Article 5. Cameron and PJ (sonicnews net) 6. Soundgarden Live/Rare/Boot MP3 server (2) 7. Soundgarden mp3's 8. nothing but the one thing... (2) 9. dissolution of A&M (2) 10. new CD with Ben on it! 11. angel on fire and other buisness... To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 03:25:19 EST From: Shawnte Orion Subject: Re: Baracuda << Sorry to disappoint you and Shawnte, and anyone else still hanging on to the hope that Soundgarden will reunite >> I really didnt mean to give anyone the impression that I was holding my breath for a reunion. What actually intrigued me, was the hint of an insinuated regret. The realization that breaking up was a difficult decision to make and that maybe there are days when it is second guessed. In some twisted way, it makes me feel better about it. Like when you punish a child and claim that it hurts you more than it hurts them, or when you realize that you must amputate your left hand to spare your arm, or when contemplating varying ramifications of euthanasia, as it may pertain to ill relatives. Some of you can probably relate to what I am trying to say. shawnte (who sees the glass as being too large for the amount of water within) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 03:42:44 EST From: Shawnte Orion Subject: whispers of the Matt-sessions Pearl Jam To Work On New Tunes Superstar Seattle rockers plan to meet back home to jam with touring drummer Matt Cameron. Senior Writer Gil Kaufman reports: Pearl Jam will reconvene in Seattle within the next two months to work on new material with touring drummer Matt Cameron, with an eye toward possibly recording their sixth full-length album later this year. "They're going to get together and play," Kelly Curtis, the band's manager, said of the informal sessions. The band's members have kept a low profile since the Nov. 24 release of their first-ever live album, Pearl Jam Live on Two Legs, which featured Cameron's recorded debut with Pearl Jam. The former Soundgarden member replaced ex-Red Hot Chili Peppers Jack Irons on drums for last year's tour, after Irons dropped out citing health concerns. "I agreed to join them in the studio and help make a record," Cameron said. "There's no other commitments other than that, but we're supposed to get together in the next couple of months and play a bit." Cameron, who just released the sophomore album by his side band Wellwater Conspiracy, Brotherhood of Electric: Operational Directive(s), said he was not sure if both he and Irons would be involved in any future studio work. Pearl Jam's publicist, Annie Ohayon, said she too was unaware of the band's future plans concerning Irons. Cameron performed with the group on their 1998 summer tour, which yielded live versions of such songs as "Do the Evolution" (RealAudio excerpt of live version) from PJ's most recent album, Yield. "All I know is that they want me to come in and work with them," Cameron said. "I don't know if they've been writing already or not. I'm not sure what their system is. I would imagine they're getting songs together." While Peal Jam have been scattered since completing the last of their 1998 tour dates -- a surprise Oct. 10 Seattle club gig opening for their heroes, power popsters Cheap Trick -- the various members have been keeping busy with side projects. The band members, who first came to prominence with such pioneering Seattle acts as Mother Love Bone and Green River, released their first album, Ten in 1991. Last October, singer Eddie Vedder recorded a collaboration with Seattle punk rockers the Supersuckers on a pair of songs by the pioneering L.A. punk band X. The songs -- covers of "Devil Doll" and "Poor Girl" -- were produced by X's original guitarist, Billy Zoom. "We've been toying with trying to get these songs together for a while," Supersuckers manager Danny Bland said. "And Vedder's always been a Supersuckers fan, so he came in and they did this marathon noon-till-5-a.m. recording session." Bland said one of the songs is expected to appear on an upcoming X tribute album he's organizing with the group. Also in the works is the debut album from Pearl Jam guitarist Mike McCready's new side project, the Rockfords, Curtis said. The group features members of the rock band Goodness, including guitarist Danny Newcomb, singer Carrie Akre and drummer Chris Friel. The album, not yet scheduled for release, might also feature already recorded cameos from singer Nancy Wilson of '70s rockers Heart and Cheap Trick guitarist Rick Nielsen, Curtis said. Another Pearl Jam side project currently in the pipeline is the sophomore album from bassist Jeff Ament's experimental rock band Three Fish. That still- untitled album -- featuring singer Robbi Robb of Tribe After Tribe and drummer Richard Stuverad of Pilot -- has been completed, Curtis said, but is not yet scheduled for release. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 03:31:17 -0600 From: Ben Timberlake Subject: FOPP Hey, I'm not a vinyl collector, so I don't know if this info is worth anything, but there's a vinyl FOPP hangin' out at a record store in the Chicago area. It's the original SUB PoP deal, but it's just black vinyl. I'd offer to pick it up for someone, but I have less than no money. If someone in the area wants to know where it is, though, I'll tell ya. --Ben Ben Timberlake 3 Days I know I will be blue: Yesterday, Today btimlake@aol.com and Tomorrow. "The day I tried to win, I wallowed in the blood and mud with all the other pigs, and I learned that I was a liar." --Chris Cornell, "The Day I Tried To Live" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 02:21:14 -0800 From: murk Subject: Rolling Stone Article Did anyone check out the current issue of Rolling Stone (Rob Zombie on cover) Yet? Look on page 19. You will find an article along with a recent photo of Chris. It's the most informative article I've read on him since the break up. Go check it out.... MURK _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 03:22:48 PST From: Lights of Hell Subject: Cameron and PJ (sonicnews net) Here's some article ffrom Sonic Net Music News of the World. Sorry it's so long. Pearl Jam will reconvene in Seattle within the next two months to work on new material with touring drummer Matt Cameron, with an eye toward possibly recording their sixth full-length album later this year. "They're going to get together and play," Kelly Curtis, the band's manager, said of the informal sessions. The band's members have kept a low profile since the Nov. 24 release of their first-ever live album, Pearl Jam Live on Two Legs, which featured Cameron's recorded debut with Pearl Jam. The former Soundgarden member replaced ex-Red Hot Chili Peppers Jack Irons on drums for last year's tour, after Irons dropped out citing health concerns. "I agreed to join them in the studio and help make a record," Cameron said. "There's no other commitments other than that, but we're supposed to get together in the next couple of months and play a bit." Cameron, who just released the sophomore album by his side band Wellwater onspiracy, Brotherhood of Electric: Operational Directive(s), said he was not sure if both he and Irons would be involved in any future studio work. Pearl Jam's publicist, Annie Ohayon, said she too was unaware of the band's future plans concerning Irons. Cameron performed with the group on their 1998 summer tour, which yielded live versions of such songs as "Do the Evolution" from PJ's most recent album, Yield. "All I know is that they want me to come in and work with them," Cameron said. "I don't know if they've been writing already or not. I'm not sure what their system is. I would imagine they're getting songs together." While Peal Jam have been scattered since completing the last of their 1998 tour dates -- a surprise Oct. 10 Seattle club gig opening for their heroes, power popsters Cheap Trick -- the various members have been keeping busy with side projects. The band members, who first came to prominence with such pioneering Seattle acts as Mother Love Bone and Green River, released their first album, Ten in 1991.Last October, singer Eddie Vedder recorded a collaboration with Seattle punk rockers the Supersuckers on a pair of songs by the pioneering L.A. punk band X. The songs -- covers of "Devil Doll" and "Poor Girl"-- were produced by X's original guitarist, Billy Zoom. "We've been toying with trying to get these songs together for a while," Supersuckers manager Danny Bland said. "And Vedder's always been a Supersuckers fan, so he came in and they did this marathon noon-till-5-a.m. recording session." Bland said one of the songs is expected to appear on an upcoming X tribute album he's organizing with the group. Also in the works is the debut album from Pearl Jam guitarist Mike McCready's new side project, the Rockfords, Curtis said. The group features members of the rock band Goodness, including guitarist Danny Newcomb, singer Carrie Akre and drummer Chris Friel. The album, not yet scheduled for release, might also feature already recorded cameos from singer Nancy Wilson of '70s rockers Heart and Cheap Trick guitarist Rick Nielsen, Curtis said. Another Pearl Jam side project currently in the pipeline is the sophomore album from bassist Jeff Ament's experimental rock band Three Fish. That still-untitled album -- featuring singer Robbi Robb of Tribe After Tribe and drummer Richard Stuverad of Pilot -- has been completed, Curtis said, but is not yet scheduled for release. Thanx for your time all. Cheers, Soundgarden will always rule. Smalls ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:10:01 -0500 From: Kendrick Kay Subject: Soundgarden Live/Rare/Boot MP3 server Well.. it's been three weeks since I started the experimental live/rare/bootleg server, and things seem to be going well. The server has grown and grown, so if you're interested.. Most of the mp3 encodings of boots found on the old rarities archive are of much higher quality now; and there are many boots/rares not previously available on the old rarities archive(!) ftp 140.247.71.148 login: sound pass: garden ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:34:52 -0500 From: Brandon Baker Subject: Soundgarden mp3's This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5370.30A64C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable several more mp3's available now! 45 megs of mp3's total! 25 rare and = live soundgarden songs! check it out: http://www2.1st.net/gosoundgarden/index.htm -GodofSoundgarden ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5370.30A64C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5370.30A64C40-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:27:09 +0100 From: Paolo Toschi Subject: Re: nothing but the one thing... >> Well, an album that definitely would benefit from a re-production, according >> to me, is Louder than love. >> The mix is soo flat. What do you think? >> >I agree on both counts. Not only is the production on both of the albums >rather weak, but I really don't like Chris' voice all that much either. >His voice has matured a lot since then. Yep, I have the feeling, listening to the record, that Chris was trying all possible directions for his vocal expression, but that ends up subtracting homogeneity and unity from the album. That was even deeper on the Screaming Life/Fopp EP, I reckon. What I'm saying is not that Chris couldn't sing, but he was obviously still looking for *his* vocal expression, so to speak. While we're on the subject, I >wish Metallica would re-record 'Kill 'Em All.' Same arguments for that >album as well. > I could discuss Metallica for centuries, but I'm afraid it wouldn't exactly be in-topic. What a great band, btw. Paolo Toschi "Fatti non foste a viver come bruti, ma per cercar virtute e coniscenza" Dante ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:10:15 -0330 From: Marc Hollett Subject: Re: nothing but the one thing... I think Chris' voice on Flower is really cool myself. If he had sung like that frequently that would've been cool too. Don't flame me! :) Marc ---------- : From: Paolo Toschi : To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU : Subject: Re: nothing but the one thing... : Date: February 8, 1999 7:57 PM : : >> Well, an album that definitely would benefit from a re-production, : according : >> to me, is Louder than love. : >> The mix is soo flat. What do you think? : >> : >I agree on both counts. Not only is the production on both of the albums : >rather weak, but I really don't like Chris' voice all that much either. : >His voice has matured a lot since then. : : Yep, I have the feeling, listening to the record, that Chris was trying all : possible directions for his vocal expression, but that ends up subtracting : homogeneity and unity from the album. That was even deeper on the Screaming : Life/Fopp EP, I reckon. What I'm saying is not that Chris couldn't sing, but : he was obviously still looking for *his* vocal expression, so to speak. : : : While we're on the subject, I : >wish Metallica would re-record 'Kill 'Em All.' Same arguments for that : >album as well. : > : : I could discuss Metallica for centuries, but I'm afraid it wouldn't exactly : be in-topic. : What a great band, btw. : : : Paolo Toschi : : "Fatti non foste a viver come bruti, ma per cercar virtute e coniscenza" : Dante ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:40:08 -0600 From: "Mike I. Jones" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Live/Rare/Boot MP3 server Hey, when is that server up? I tried to get on about 7:30 CST and it wasn't up, so just wondering. Thanks for spreading rare/live/bootleg stuff to people who are defecient of it. Kendrick Kay wrote: > Well.. it's been three weeks since I started the experimental > live/rare/bootleg server, and things seem to be going well. The server has > grown and grown, so if you're interested.. Most of the mp3 encodings of > boots found on the old rarities archive are of much higher quality now; and > there are many boots/rares not previously available on the old rarities > archive(!) > > ftp 140.247.71.148 > login: sound > pass: garden ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:05:57 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: dissolution of A&M I was reading that article about the dissolution of A&M that someone posted recently, and I began to wonder-- if Chris Cornell and most of the stable have been ditched, I'm guessing Soundgarden, since they are no longer a band, have probably been released from their contract. Does anyone know? I wonder what this all means in terms of B-sides and any other projects, like the rumored live album, that were being planned, ostensibly to fill contract obligations. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:58:01 -0500 From: Kim Subject: Re: dissolution of A&M I don't think Soundgarden would be released from their contract obligation. While they may not be able to sell millions of records anymore, they would still be able to move a decent number of units--enough to make profit. Since putting together an album of B-sides or live performances doesn't require that much work or money, that would just increase the profits for IGA. -Elliott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:15:36 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: new CD with Ben on it! The new Pete Krebs and Gossamer Wings CD is out, featuring Ben on bass. Go here for ordering information. http://www.cavitysearchrecords.com/catalog.html Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:42:19 EST From: Evan Frees Subject: Re: angel on fire and other buisness... << ohhh god... i just heard angel on fire, thanks very much kendrick... i had always seen the lyrics, memorized them in fact because they were so moving... i loved, LOVE this song.... i just had to share, i'm sure you have all heard it already.... >> I think it's a great song, they should have put that on the TOTD album. ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 8 Feb 1999 to 9 Feb 1999 **********************************************