SOMMS Digest - 3 Nov 1998 to 4 Nov 1998 [ 9.5KB. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] There are 5 messages totalling 199 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. where is this from? 2. framing limited editions 3. go to where the reptiles roam... 4. Temptations 5. Aaron Brother's boycott... To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:10:58 -0330 From: Marc Hollett Subject: Re: where is this from? Hehe yeah, it is from the mtv commercial, but I saved that frame and added the text. It originated at http://soundgarden.musicpage.com. :) ---------- : From: The Koggle : To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU : Subject: where is this from? : Date: November 3, 1998 2:16 AM : : Hey All : : Whilst rummaging through the SG webring candidates I usually come across : some really cool pics that I haven't seen before.. This particular one : was on 2 different pages and I am guessing it's from some recent work : Chris has done.. I guess since the Unofficial site went down, I haven't : been too alert when it comes to pics.. : So where is this from? : : http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/2913/approval.jpg : : Thanks, : Kogg : : ps. don't go to the main site though. All it is is pictures and blank : pages for everyone but Chris.. fancy that. It can get quite annoying.. : : ______________________________________________________ : Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:20:04 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: framing limited editions As a professional artist I have had numerous dealings with framers so let me offer you some tips to prevent disasters. 1) Do not assume anything. Make it very clear exactly what you do and do not want at the time you place your order, and make sure the person you deal with writes down everything on the purchase order. Everything. 2) Make it clear that this is a limited edition, signed piece and that you want the the edition number and signature visible. If you want a comparable white border around the rest of the print, or if you want the other three sides matted to image, make sure you tell them, either way, and that they write that down. 3) Before I had my Koziks framed I asked my current framer (who is, thankfully, a fellow photographer and a friend) if dry-mounting or other forms of attachment will devalue a piece and he said yes. Therefore, I do not allow my limited edition prints to be drymounted or taped to the matt board or backing in any way. I let them float. This is not a problem if you have them framed to size without a matt. Surface tension and the tension of the framing hardware, and the confines of the frame itself are enough to keep the print from sliding down or buckling, as long as the backing material is sturdy. Because most of these pieces are large, I go with foam core board as a backer because it is lightweight and provides cushioning. Ask for this specifically if it is what you want. Otherwise your framer may use something else, like plain mattboard. 4) If you do want a window matt, be sure you tell them not to attach the piece to the matting with any adhesives. It is not uncommon for a framer to apply a strip of double adhesive directly to the front margins of a print and then attach it to the matt! Trust me, this is NOT removable. Ask them to set the print in the matting with photo corners, or if some adhesive must be used to hold the print in place, ask for archival, removable tape applied only to the back top border area of the print. Ask for tape in either acid free linen or acid free paper with a water based glue that can be removed with steam or water patted on the back of the tape. 5) It is NEVER acceptible for any framer to cut away any portion of a piece without express consent of the owner. Period. Cutting a piece to fit a frame without asking the owner is-- well, unconscionable! You are having a custom framing job done. It is the framer's job to measure and order properly to construct a frame that fits your piece, not make your piece fit a frame that's the wrong size. But as we have seen, this abomination does happen, so make sure you tell them you do not want any portion of the border cut away. 6) Explore your options. Prices for frame components and matt board can vary widely even in similar looking materials. Don't just accept what the framer suggests without asking about other suitable materials. I go with the least expensive black aluminum frames I can get. Glass is far cheaper than plexiglass, and non-glare glass is very expensive also. For a large piece, plain, non-textured glass is usually the best option. 7) Ask for archival materials. This means acid free board. Acids in regular papers and some cheaper matt boards can cause eventual deterioration or discoloration of the piece. 8) If you are not getting a window matt and are concerned about the print surface contacting and adhering to the glass (so far, I have not had a problem with this, but in a very damp climate or with a "sticky" feeling ink this could be a problem) spacer bars or thin strips of matt board can be inserted between the print and the front of the frame to allow some breathing room. 8) When you hang your piece, place it where it will not be exposed to direct or very strong indirect sunlight, or to dampness. UV rays can deteriorate your print and your matt. I hope this helps someone in their future framing needs. Feel free to print this up and take it with you. It is easy to get overwhelmed by options (or a pushy framer) and forget things. It even still happens to me. Remember, you are the customer, and if they won't agree to frame it the way you want it, take it to someone else who will. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:07:51 +1000 From: justin nicholls Subject: go to where the reptiles roam... cool news, listers. while on holidays at surfer's paradise, amanda (my girlfriend) bought me _screaming life_ on purple marble vinyl. life is good. vinyl is good. justin ------------- q: is it easy kicking so much ass? a: yes, because there is so much ass to be kicked out there. -matt cameron, 1998. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:19:00 -0500 From: Anna Mincieli Subject: Temptations Sorry, that this isn't SG related, but I was hoping that somebody may have taped the TV movie "The Temptations". They played my Father's song in a segment of part 1. If anybody has it, please let me know. I can dub the SG video compilaton, or various boot vid shows on a trade. E-mail me privately, if you have just part 1. P&L+SG Anna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:23:57 -0800 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Aaron Brother's boycott... I just wanted to thank all of you who have helped me out with my little battle with Aaron Brothers. I have had many e-mails about how people have also had problems with them and how they couldn't believe how stupid they were to deface the poster. I also got a few tips from people where i could find an extra copy of the poster and I have already ordered a new one. I'm gonna go get my money from Aaron Brothers for the price i had to pay for the new one. They were lucky to only get away with having to pay $60 for it but if they think i'm gonna let them frame the new one, or anything else i have, they are sorely mistaken. Once again THANK YOU ALL, and good night. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net/asnod |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | "Generation "A" or Generation "Z", | | Who the hell are you to put a label on me? | | This label of the week is getting kinda lame, | | The more things change the more they stay the same." | | | | "Generation Why" - The Reverend Horton Heat | | | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 3 Nov 1998 to 4 Nov 1998 **********************************************