SOMMS Digest - 29 Oct 1998 to 30 Oct 1998 [ Message/RFC822 7.6KB. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] There are 5 messages totalling 159 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. one final word (i hope) (2) 2. Some Matt related news 3. 70's What the Hell for? 4. I sure don't mind a change.. or do I? To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 02:27:25 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: one final word (i hope) You all are missing the big picture relating to the 70's revival. This happens every decade. The decade 20 years before is hip to relive, mostly by people who didn't live it the first time around, and what is brought up to represent it is usually kitsch and innacurate. Those of us who lived in the 70's remember the 50's revival, sock hops, Grease, American Graffiti, Happy Days, poodle skirts, etc. My mom always went on about how innacurate and stupid those portrayals were. In the 80's there was something of a 60's revival, and in the popular media it concentrated on the hippy movement and Woodstock and the Grateful Dead. This revival was better. We got the rebirth of interest in the Doors and the undercurrents produced the garage band revival that those of us lucky enough to have good college and underground radio got to enjoy. So, now the 90's gives us the 70's revival. It's to be expected. And what is being rehashed is the same sort of innacurate, kitschy, cutesy thing that happened with the 50's revival. After the turn of the millenium it will be cool to look back at the nostalgic 80's and 90's. Think what that will be like! On the other hand, don't. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:26:58 EST From: Matt Hammons Subject: Re: one final word (i hope) Actually, It seems like were getting stuf from every decade crammed into the 90's. Examples. 1900's The Gulf war was a re-enactment of the Spanish-American war, "a splendid little war" where it cost us hardly any lives but we got some good shit out of the deal. 1910's We got the trust busting (Microsoft, Ticketmaster) mentality back, plus the international diplomacy attitudes of Woodrow wilson back. 1920's We're re-living the boom and bust economy of the 20's which eerily led to the Great Depression. 1930's Actually I think this is the one decade we're disowning as a nation, what with cutting back all the programs fostered by the New Deal and all (welfare, government works, etc.) 1940's one word: SWING 1950's We've got an innefective moderate in the presidency. 1960's Woodstock II (ick) Beatles Anthology, what have you. 1970's Already discussed on this list. 1980's Pretty much everywhere (are we STILL living the 80's, or are we RE- LIVING them?) So in my opinion the 90's is just a cheap summary of the 20th century. Mis dos Centavos, NR16020 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:09:57 EST From: Angela Woolley Subject: Some Matt related news I hadn't seen this posted so I thought I would pass on that Pearl Jam is releasing a live album of the recent tour with Matt on drums. <> This and further info such as the track listing can be found at: http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/PearlJam/rumorpit/rumorpit.html All for now! Angela :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:40:15 EST From: Mike Gallagher Subject: Re: 70's What the Hell for? Disco's back? Geez, where the hell have I been? I'm not seeing any of these things happening where I live. Unsarcastically (is that a word?), Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:03:38 PST From: Star Pancake Subject: I sure don't mind a change.. or do I? I'm most displeased to report for all of you non-Seattle Sommies out there, this city is basically a swirling hell hole compared to what it used to be. (for all of you Seattle SOMMSters out there, this is IMHO, please, flame me if you must, but don't send useless retorts to the list) You used to be able to walk out on the street (and yes I remember this, so it wasn't that long ago) and say hello to a complete stranger and get back a friendly reply. Now it's "Yo, bitch, got the time?" or *glare* left and right. It's overcrowded, dirty, and basically repulsive. Now, don't get me wrong, there are still plenty of good spots to be yourself and not have to worry about all the trendies running around searching for Kurt Cobain's house and a bottle of Ed Vedder's sweat, but you have to search high and low for them. Now, there's no way in hell I will ever leave here (unless I get the oppurtunity to go to New Zealand *wink*), for small reasons such as Cellophane Square, the current underground punk/metal scene that totally kicks ass, and the immortal Fremont. But I have 41 words for you: "11 and 12 year old squealing little girls running around sporting Spice Girls and Hanson shirts while lugging gigantic Gap bags full of 'Kurt Cobain 67-94' patches and stickers with their little belly buttons hanging out of their unsightly midriffs." Sorry, but that's what it's like. Rach, don't worry, we'll be sure to keep you away from em so as you dont become a wanted outlaw for a grisley murder or two. ;) Anyhoo, my very not-obvious point is, everything is affected by change, be it good or bad. Style, fashion, industry, economy, and most importantly, music. Don't fret, the trendies wil have their hey-day with the 70's crap, while we get to be the priveleged who know what was REALLY cool in the 70's (I.E. Zep). Soon they'll move on to Glam, punk, and orange lips, and eventually grunge. It's just a downward spiral that no one can break because the people who invent their own personalities are not "the cool ones".\ Just my $0.02, or should I say $2,000,000.00... -punk- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 29 Oct 1998 to 30 Oct 1998 ************************************************