SOMMS Digest - 13 Aug 1998 to 14 Aug 1998 [ Message/RFC822 19KB. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] There are 15 messages totalling 445 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. shoot me in the foot 2. CDNow Bullshit 3. CDnow letter (for those interested) 4. powerful songs/BIMH 5. Shoot me in the foot 6. New Soundgarden?? (2) 7. burden in my hand 8. powerful song (2) 9. a ben story 10. New Damage/Let Me Drown 11. Powerful songs and all that 12. and the sky keeps turning grey... 13. New Soundgarden?? [Hats off to anyone who reads the entire post...Semi-long] To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 02:43:37 EDT From: Kathleen Burrows Subject: shoot me in the foot hey kiddies. im in a particularly sad mood at this moment. and i'm listening to my drug of choice, zero chance. now about this "powerful song" business, i'll get my loserass up on my soap box and share my five buks. i respect everyone's opinion about the most powerful SG song in their eyes. i just have to say this though. i think that the most powerful song, by anyone for this matter, is the song that gets ya rite here ::points to heart::. the songs that reaches somewhere, where nothing really has gone before. the song that has some sort of twisted, and magikal personal meaning . THAT is the most powerful song. and to add to the list, i think this is the most powerful song: zero chance. it means something to me, as no other SG song has. and that's why it's so powerful. peace, love, hope, faith, soup and s o u n d g a r d e n always groovy, kathleen : )) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:07:40 PDT From: Star Pancake Subject: CDNow Bullshit I would say all you'd have to do to see if it's true is look at the rest of the information they put down: Hiro was not born in Okinawa Japan on September 20. Something tells me that may just be arrogant presumption on the fucked-in-the-head author's part. As for Chris's drug problem, I have no idea, but a quote of his comes to mind: "Instead of 'Freen your mind with drugs' it should be 'Fuck your mind with drugs'". Now this may just be Chris messing with the interviewer's head, but I think this sends out a pretty clear message of how Chris feels about drugs. ;) And you're right, whoever said someone should sue the author's ass. I'm in the process of writing a "note" to CDNow... ;) Later pUnKy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:20:48 PDT From: Star Pancake Subject: CDnow letter (for those interested) Here it is, sweet yet incredibly threatening. ;) Hope you all approve, it's already on the way. <<>> Later, pUnKy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:43:39 -0400 From: Laura Fletcher Subject: powerful songs/BIMH Just like I think everyone else should do when posting to this list, I thought twice (or three or four times!) before posting. *ahem* Here goes! I did an interp of BIMH a few weeks ago. It was a lot like these by Brian and Rachel, having to deal with death and love. I *wish* I would've saved the digest with my interp so I could re-post it. (If I ever do come across it, I'll shorten it and provide a synopsis.) Sheesh....did anybody read my interp? (I'm kidding...) Therefore, I cast my "most-powerful-song" ballot to Burden In My Hand: the song that can't stay ignored for long! ~~Laura The Soundgarden Art page has moved! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2769/soundgarden/ So has the themes page! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2769/soundgarden/sgmusic.html ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| AOL IM: MmMmCelery or BITEmyNOSE ICQ UIN: 4394726 (Lumberjill) Homepage: http://surf.to/Lumberjill ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:41:19 EDT From: Mike Stevenson Subject: Re: Shoot me in the foot In a message dated 98-08-13 02:51:15 EDT, SokJunky55@aol.com wrote: << i think that the most powerful song, by anyone for this matter, is the song that gets ya rite here ::points to heart::. the songs that reaches somewhere, where nothing really has gone before. the song that has some sort of twisted, and magikal personal meaning . THAT is the most powerful song. >> Well, I was going to say that 4th of July was Soundgarden's most powerfull song, but in this case I would have to say Black Hole Sun is the most powerfull song to me. For all the reasons SokJunky said above. I don't think anyone on the list will agree with me on this but like Kathleen said, it has a personal meaning, it makes me tingle inside when I hear it. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:52:18 PDT From: kelly hendricks Subject: New Soundgarden?? Hey all! Last night I was trying to go to sleep and when I couldn't I decided to have SG sing/play me off to sleepy-land. ~FYI: I have 3 SG cd's in my cd-player (that change often) and have it on shuffle pretty much all the time.~ My cd player has taken a liking to New Damage and Holy Water because they are always the songs that play first; go figure. After New Damage and Overfloater played, BHS came on and just me hearing the first 5 seconds of the song made me wish I could go back to when SG was very new to me. I'll admit I'm a Superunknowner or a Black Hole Sunner (whatever the hell you want to call me); that's how I got into SG. Anyway, I was just thinking about how I felt when I "found" them. Not that it's changed or that they're not interesting to me any more because that is so very far from the truth, but since the band is gone, I think an awful lot about how it would be neat to go back to when I first heard them. Does anyone else ever feel this way? I mean going back to when YOU first heard the band and fell in love with them. I'm not saying about going back and changing anything like, "Oh man, I wish I could go back and go to this concert!" or "I wish I would've bought that when I saw it then." Basically, just going back and doing it all over again; your SG experience that is. Does anyone understand me?? I know I must sound really retarded right now but I don't know how else to get it across. Anyway, if you can understand this post and have ever felt this way, please share. Thanks for listening to my endless BS! Take care and be sweet!! Stay Cool, Kelly (c: Funny for the day: ~Always go to the bathroom when you have a chance.~ --King George V "I don't even care, you're just a piece of shit and I, I'm a freak!" --Spank the Monkey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:07:43 -0500 From: "B. Kinser" Subject: Re: burden in my hand On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Rachel Potter wrote: > late last night while i couldn't sleep i thought about burden in my hand... > and compared it to marilyn manson... the line "kill you health and kill > yourself..." just sounded like something he'd say... then i thought about the > song. what do you all think about the song? to me that song just doesn't seem > to all go together... do you think chris wrote the lyrics at diffferent > settings? please interpret this song. > -rachel > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/unknowgrl/index.html > Well, maybe I'm just staying too close to the surface, but i don't think there is a whole lot of hidden meaning in the lyrics. I think it's pretty straightforward. It's about a person (an obsessive lover? A Stalker? A scorned suitor?) who is lamenting about the act he has done (i.e "shot My love today.") Or maybe not. BK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:53:03 EDT From: Mike Liacone Subject: powerful song how about darwing flies????? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:08:57 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: a ben story For those of you who haven't read Five Against One yet, here is one of the SG related stories from it. There is also some March of Crimes info that I have added to my page, so that's up if you want to read it at http://www.citynet.net/personal/sightsound/moc/moc.html ________________________________________________________________________ Friction was also arising more and more often from a long-simmering hatred between the Seattle punks and the "donut kids," a rough-and-tumble crew of runaway street kids, prostitutes, and drug dealers who hung out at the International Donut House. Soundgarden bassist Ben Shepherd, who was about twelve years old at the time, still remembers a run-in he and his siblings had with a group of Donut Kids before a Dead Kennedys/Husker Du/Fartz gig at the Showbox. "There were four guys, and every one of 'em had a knife," Shepherd said in 1994. "We started walking toward the Showbox, and all of a sudden they grabbed my sister and put a knife up to her throat. My brother talked 'em out of it. Then we were waiting in line to get into the show and they started coming back. I was just instantly hating society. We were getting all this shit because they thought we were punk rockers, just because we listened to this music." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:25:25 EDT From: Nick Boos Subject: New Damage/Let Me Drown Sommies, Ok i was listening to BMF and Super while driving over to the olympic mountains and I realized something about these two cds. Mainly what i think to be the mood that the band has around these times. The last song on BMF is New Damage right? And the main line to this song is "The wreck is going down, get out before you drown." BTW this song is totally awsome and love it, it would have to be really powerful in my book. The next cd comes out right, and look just the name of the first song is called Let Me Drown. The main line is this song "Drown me in you" I'll let you figure out what this all means.... -Nick aka Spackle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:23:13 -0400 From: Brian Kirkner Subject: Re: powerful song Mike Liacone wrote: > how about darwing flies????? Or toy box? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:18:51 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: Re: New Soundgarden?? This is in regards to Kelly's post about wishing to go back to a time that SG was "new": Now I know why all you owners of the B-sides are bitter (okay maybe just LimoWreck5). The book is closed for you guys. When A-Sides came out those of us without import singles got to hear a "new" song in Bleed Together! And now with the B-Sides comp coming out (if it friggin ever does) we're pretty much getting a new album of "new" songs. Just thoughts, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 23:25:56 EDT From: Andy Guinn Subject: Powerful songs and all that Weel, hearing all of youre thoughts bout how these songs touch you, and i figure ill add me own .02 to it too.... There are ALOT of songs that are near and dear to me lyrically AND musically. Like "zero Chance". Theres a BEAUTIFUL song that relates to my life, and my experiences also(me and kathleen have somthin in common there!:-). And FOBD....the part, "So what you wanted to see good......" is just SO touching, and just connects to me in SUCH a way only you guys know. But if i can only choose one, i know it isnt REALLY SG, but its got chris so its good enough for me. If ya havent noticed yet, its "Sunshower". I get into a shiver whenever i hear. Its SUCH a beautiful song! I yelled at people i didnt even know who were talkin thru it when i saw "great expectations"! I'll admit it, i had tears in my eyes the first time i heard it. Its lyrics touch my heart in a way no song has ever done before.... -GwYn **...and bound to die alone...** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 14:02:25 +1000 From: justin nicholls Subject: and the sky keeps turning grey... On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Nick Boos wrote: > The last song on BMF is New Damage right? And the main line to this song is > "The wreck is going down, get out before you drown." BTW this song is totally > called Let Me Drown. The main line is this song "Drown me in you" > I'll let you figure out what this all means.... according to what band members (specifically chris) have said, 'new damage' refers to societal issues, while 'let me drown' is about crawling into the womb to die. most powerful song? right now, an unreleased tune called 'christi'. the tune is a total death-spiral, the lyrics indescribable. possibly the most haunting song I've ever encountered. justin ------------- q: is it easy kicking so much ass? a: yes, because there is so much ass to be kicked out there. -matt cameron, 1998. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 01:23:45 EDT From: James Wood Subject: Re: New Soundgarden?? [Hats off to anyone who reads the entire post...Semi-long] >I think an awful lot about how it would be neat to go back to when I >first heard them. Does anyone else ever feel this way? I mean going >back to when YOU first heard the band and fell in love with them. I'm >not saying about going back and changing anything like, "Oh man, I wish >I could go back and go to this concert!" or "I wish I would've bought >that when I saw it then." Basically, just going back and doing it all >over again; your SG experience that is. Does anyone understand me?? I >know I must sound really retarded right now but I don't know how else to >get it across. Anyway, if you can understand this post and have ever >felt this way, please share. This post [see above^ =)] really seemed to stand out when I read it, in a sea of otherwise bland e-mail (not referring to posts by fellow SOMMSters in that remark). It matched perfectly a recurring feeling I have, not just in the music I listen to (remeber when the BIMH video was hot off the presses? Sigh...), but in my life in general. There are parts of my existence I simply wish I had the power to experience again. Trying to make this semi-SG related>>>I remember in May of 1997 when I saw the video to Black Hole Sun on the MTV 500. I have not been into music a terribly long while and as a result I had not seen it a great many times, or any other SG video, so it was sort of a special event. I remember being in my room, suddenly seeing it come on, and immedietly blasting both TV's in the house to full volume [Mom was at work :)]. Anyway, thinking back about that moment, I feel a great sense of loss, or perhaps longing.....I wish I could feel the way I did in that moment, when BHS was bursting from both sets in all its glory.....That cloudy spring afternoon......In a house I haven't lived in for almost a year.....I think about all the things that have happened between then and now, and how everything seems so simple back then in comparison....One of my favorite Pearl Jam lyrics describes it perfectly: "If only I knew now what I had known then..." <<<[May not be word for word, I haven't listened to No Code in a while...] This of course speculates about how it would be nice if we could once again have the innocence we lost somewhere along the way, if we could reacquire our golden ignorance about what the future held.....We try to relive in our minds a comforting memory, but all we can experience are the physical sensations...We can remeber how a certain Christmas dinner smelled, or a good song sounded, or how a loved one's touch felt....But try as we might we cannot bring back the actual inner peace or joy that it brought us...In short, we can't attain the same state of mind, and that is what we are really longing for when conjuring up pleasent memories. Okay, enough of my own depressing whining about how my life sucks (It's in there, just look for it...), I just thought I'd use the list to rant tonight I suppose. Peace, Love, And (most importantly) LOUD MUSIC, --JAMES "Kill your health and kill yourself, kill everything you love..." ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 13 Aug 1998 to 14 Aug 1998 ************************************************