SOMMS Digest - 2 Aug 1998 to 3 Aug 1998 [ 15KB. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] There are 8 messages totalling 342 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. flaunting my fonts... (2) 2. sg party 3. Kim Thayil - not a man. 4. Janet Jackson Special 5. Since when is grammar important? I'll tell ya! :) 6. A guy selling all SG vids on tape.... 7. nowhere but.......seattle! To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:31:54 -0700 From: Red Valkyrie Subject: flaunting my fonts... Im wading into a shark pool with a really stupid topic...But this is driving me crazy. You see, I'm unfortunate enough to work in a McDonald's. I dunno about your parts of the country but where I am (the Albany area, NY), we have 39 cent hamburger day. It's a horrid day, but thats besides the point. The signs we have hanging around the store and other stores in the area all say "Terrific Tuesdays, Hamburgers 39 cents" et al. Well, the font which is displayed in the word "Hamburgers" on these signs looks, to me, really damn close to the font used on Badmotorfinger. I'm not talking about the font used in the liner notes and stuff, Im talking about the really freaky font they use where it says "Soundgarden" on the cover. I'm wondering if anybody else has seen and/or noticed this, if you have terrible tuesdays where you are, OR, if any sort of Soundgarden truetype fonts are available anywhere, like the BMF font or maybe the Louder than Love font (my personal fave). =) -- "It was the ship of dreams to everyone else, mkay? To me it was a slave ship, taking me back to America in chains, mkay?" - Mr. Mackey as Rose DeWitt Bukater ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:45:12 -0500 From: Rvn Encarnacion Subject: Re: sg party maybe you could help out a fellow sommster who doesn't have the access to such resources & maybe come up with a deal for us to get a copy of that video set... btw, any of you have any info regarding the 'no alternative' video compilation? - killyrbf@dangerous-minds.com http://fly.to/bfkill ' pilit ko man hindi makaiwas sa...mata ng diyos ' --- wolfgang _____________________________________________ Get your free personalized email address at http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:16:15 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: flaunting my fonts... Red Valkyrie wrote: I'm wondering if anybody else > has seen and/or noticed this, if you have terrible tuesdays where you > are, OR, if any sort of Soundgarden truetype fonts are available > anywhere, like the BMF font or maybe the Louder than Love font (my > personal fave). I don't know of any SG true type fonts, or any other type font for that matter, but i have for a few that are pretty dam close. The only thing is the font for the "SOUNDGARDEN" type on BMF was obviously made just for the album. It looks to me like it was either a font called Haettenschweiler or Impact that was used and then they jacked around with it, stretched, squeezed, and even moving the letters closer together. The type on "Louder Than Love" is just a plane ol' font. You could probably use either of the fonts I mentioned before to get the look but I think Impact works, and looks, better. -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://members.home.net/asnod |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, we are the greatest RFTC" | | | | -Speedo, Rocket From The Crypt | | | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:54:47 EDT From: Shawnte Orion Subject: Kim Thayil - not a man. Good morning, everyone I just bought a re-issue CD of the 1982 album, Oh, No! It's Devo. To my surprise, there were liner notes inside, written by Kim (although I knew he was a huge Devo fan). Some of you may, or may not have known this...some of you may, or may not have read them....some of you may, or may not care, but I will transcribe them here, nevertheless. In case anyone would like to read it...... In 1977, I was 17 and entering my final year of high school. I had been playing guitar for about a year at the time. My friends and I, a handful of musicians, midwestern cynics, stoners, and folks who read too much, were turning on to a number of exciting bands, from New York, London, parts unchartered and elsewhere. Among the bands were The Ramones, Richard Hell and The Voidoids, The Saints, MX-80 Sound, Buzzcocks, Wire, Dead Boys, Sex Pistols, Talking Heads, Pere Ubu, The Contortions, Gang Of Four, Television, Elvis Costello, and a five-piece that seemed to consist of fellow midwestern cynics from Akron, Ohio. The first time I heard Devo, Bruce Pavitt, of Sub Pop fame, brought home two singles on the Booji Boy label and played them for his younger brother's friends. I was amongst them. If I remember correctly, they were "Mongoloid" b/w "Jocko Homo" and "Satisfaction" b/w "Sloppy." We were all blown away. There was unanimous acclaim for the spud quintet from Akron, from the dozen or less guitar owners who constituted the "What me worry?" subset of the three dozen guitar owners who would be blown away by Van Halen's "Eruption." Devo became one of the many events and articles that give identity to that subset of guitar owners and company, both as individuals and pathetically as a collusive collective of culturally & politically hip, socially retarded anthrophobes. Devo was aggressive, un-apologetic, witty, insightful and novel as a band. However, and this was a bonus, they were not a novelty act, because they were consistently courageous and creative, in presenting their unique vision. They mocked and ridiculed a society that they did not design. A world that they inherited. The world that my friends and I were entering, and that we were expected to both participate and succeed in. A world that was confusing and uninviting to the confused and uninvited. They were uniquely American. Uniquely cold war American with all of its fears, artifice and dichotomies, intellectually mirrored upon themselves and us. Us being the few south suburban Chicago class of 1978 post pubescents, who were aware of being on the cusp of the baby bummer generation and something perhaps vital or perhaps another marketing demographic. Devo successfully humbled and simultaneously empowered us. They embarrassed our self-reverential identities as post-industrial/post-war consumers of color TV, plastic goods, frozen dinners, fast food, cultural ephemera, commodified sex, electric everything, nuclear somethings and the interstate defense and commerce system. The above products were the subject of many television cartoons and comedies during the space-age years subsequent to WWII and antecedent to the fads of discotheques and rock stadia. They became frightening realities to those of us who were expected to become autonomous in a world that Devo described as automated, distant, foolish and malicious. Devo successfully embraced and invited us to welcome that which America was afraid of and hesitant to recognize in itself: its fears and contradictions. Devo appeared to be socialists, who exalted industry and sympathized with labor. However, they also had this laissez-faire capitalist reverence for the will and its exercise of choice. They also seemed to be dispassionate and sexually neutered, while having a perverse affection for sexual metaphor. They encouraged the individual, while they themselves were monolithic automatons. They warned of technocracy, while they armed themselves with tone-oscillators & hyper engineered metronomes. Could the champions of De-evolution also have been the heralds of the uber-mensch? Perhaps Bob's apostles of slack? Yes! Alright, they were the house band for the church of subgenius! Their music the soundtrack to a world whose inhabitants were the "Thunderbirds" and moved in "Supermarionation." The '68 Democratic convention riots in Chicago had the MC-5. Three Mile Island should have had Devo. The band that could have had an endorsement deal with Whammo! They mocked both the insecure and the assured, the sincere and the deceitful. They laughed in the face of certain irony. So these rock messiahs had found their leprous flock. Devo would remain the topic of very flattering conversations amongst us frustrated too-smart-to-be-happy "punk/new wavers" for the remainder of my senior year. I formed my first band, Bozo & The Pinheads, that year. We performed a set: half of which were originals, half of which were covers of The Ramones, the Sex Pistols and Devo. We played our senior talent show at years end. Six months later, that same dozen or less, all underage at the time, managed to pass undetected by Chicago bar bouncers into the 'Park West Club' to see Devo. By the end of Chuck Statler's filmed "Rock Videos" of Devo, we agreed that even if Devo did not take the stage, it was still the best concert any of us had ever attended. Perhaps, that was due to our honoring the two-drink minimum club code. It only got better with Devo taking the stage in their yellow fire-retardant U.L. approved jumpsuits. Mark Mothersbaugh ran out into the audience and amongst the candle-lit tables singing through a wireless mic. They performed Satisfaction (the Stones song) and still to this day, most of my peers believe it is one of the very few cover songs that equals, or is greater than, the original. (This song is not featured on this album, uhhh....nevermind). The climax of the set had to be when Bob no. 1 did a guitar solo while walking across a table and kicking over many patron's drinks. We were more than impressed. Those were three dollar drinks. I remained impressed over the next years of Devo's career, buying every album, attending a few more concerts and playing the album you are currently holding, in heavy rotation during my stint as a disc-jockey at the University of Washington's KCMU radio station. My fellow bandmates in Soundgarden recorded Devo's "Girl You Want" (also not featured on this disc-my fault for bringing it up) with what I believe is in the same spirit of reverance, mockery and homage as Devo would present themselves and our world. Anyway, you now hold in your hands one of the final documents of a great American fraternity comprised of a dozen or less, but probably most likely only five members. Q: Are we not men? A: Shrivel up Devo. -Kim Thayil, 1995 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 15:07:47 PDT From: Soren Franson Subject: Janet Jackson Special Anyone else saw the MTV special on Janet Jackson, where they played "Rusty Cage" in the background? Ah.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 17:38:21 PDT From: William Flanders Subject: Re: Since when is grammar important? I'll tell ya! :) "just when i thought this would all stop....we have to endure another lecture about how to be better people. JEEZ already. nothing personal Koggle but can't we just talk like who we are about something we really like without having to worry about someone scrutinizing our way of doing it?" Shellie (a new occasional sommster) I don't care that much about grammar, but it bugs me sometimes when people on mailing lists talk in ways that are entirely different from how they'd speak to friends on the phone. And yes, I'm talking to you again Kathleen. Don't ask me how I know this, but I seriously doubt you use the made-up word "anywhoski" in casual conversation. The effect? It makes people who read your posts think you're insecure with yourself and have to invent some sort of character to speak behind. It also makes it seem like you're compensating for hazy, little-thought-out ideas by making everyone focus on all these words you've made up... I also see Koggle's perspective. What's the point of writing to a mailing list anyway? Is it just to get something off your chest, or is it to offer some information, or to propose a topic of discussion? If other people are supposed to read what you write, then... hey! why not write it in a way that won't confuse and annoy them? And I'm, also, not talking about typos and mistakes, or broken English from non-native speakers. I'm talking more about deliberately screwed up language. -Bill ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:15:17 PDT From: The Cat Subject: A guy selling all SG vids on tape....

There is a guy on the imusic Soundgarden BBS who is selling 20 SG videos on tape for $18.

The address is http://imusic.com/cgi-bin/bbs/bbs.cgi?x=soundgarden

And his e-mail is idling@mindless.com

Put your hands away.... -The Cat
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