SOMMS Digest - 28 Jul 1998 to 29 Jul 1998 [ Message/RFC822 28KB. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] There are 27 messages totalling 769 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. lesshave much 2. Peace with the Total Request (2) 3. Totally Request Dick!! (4) 4. Kim Thayil hosting radio show (3) 5. Lance's total request (2) 6. soundgarden on 90210 7. SOMMS Digest - 27 Jul 1998 to 28 Jul 1998 8. I'm an idiot, you're an idiot (2) 9. PJ in S.Florida 10. projects 11. DREAM BAND 12. Susan the Author (4) 13. BMF/SOMMS on ebay 14. Hard-headed fuck you all 15. Intelligence an so forth.... 16. A few Soundgarden bootlegs To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:17:56 EDT From: Kathleen Burrows Subject: lesshave much <> Just a few things. Hello?? (sorry, my sinicism is on the high now), not all of us can GET much music. I, myself, am stuk with the trendie-ness that is MTV. Oh yeah, Jesse rules!! Shure, he may be retarted, but he's about the most realistic thing MTV has on there. But back to my point, I'm sure the person who brought up the whole MTV/SG thing was probably just like the rest of us losers who dont have Much Music. It's about as damn close as we can get to seeing our SG, if we don't have them recorded on vid already (which I don't cause I got MTV taken away when they would play SG on a semi-regular basis). Another thing. Please no Metallica box-set thing, for SG. I think tis cooler that they release things one step at a time. I'm looking very forward the video collection, when Kim gets it together. I have a headache and I need jello... chat yall up later adios and keep on truckin!! peace, love, hope, faith, soup and s o u n d g a r d e n always groovy, kathleen : )) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:36:52 EDT From: Ayesha Gonzalez Subject: Peace with the Total Request All you do is fight over this Total request thing, if you really want to see a SG video then Email them, and if you don't think it will work then FUCK YOU, stop bitchin about it It pisses me off, we're supposed to be writing to this to talk about Soundgarden not to Bitch at other people about it. This Kinda makes me think if SOMMS is that great. All i see on the Digest version is a whole bunch of people argueing its kinda sad. And maybe if peopel just start requesting Soundgarden Video's ( doesn't matter which one) maybe they'll have this thing on all soundgarden videos ( here;s hoping), But anyways.. STOP THE BITCHING ITS IMMATURE, and who cares if someone doesn't spell something right! But NEways Talk to you All laterz LATe Ayes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:40:12 -0700 From: The Cat Subject: Re: Totally Request Dick!! On Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:22:50 PDT Star Pancake writes: >I know! Let's all email Mtv and call in and see if they'll play that >Jimmy Page and Puff Daddy vid! And then if they won't, we could ask >those nice poeple if they'd play BHS, since it's my favorite video >even >though I've seen it 500 fucking times! And then, if they won't play >THAT, we could ask them if they had any spare lives, and if so, could >they please hand them out to us? We're in dire need, you know. And if >not, well, then Somms is doomed to mindless posts from mindless people >for an eternity. But we'll always love our Mtv, right? > >Love to you all, > >pUnKy the biggest Chris Cornell Fan ever!!! > >P.P.S. For all you Brainwashed-By-Mtv-It-Sucked-Your-Brain-Out out >there >without a sense of humor, I was being sarcastic. Matt's my favorite. >Get >a life. Read a book (New Metal Crown). Kill Mtv. Asshole. The two posts that I have seen ever posted from you were you bitching like a fucking baby. I think you missed the point about why we wanted to request a SG video on that show (or maybe I'm just speaking for myself). It's BECAUSE of the mainstream let's-play-whatever-we-want-our-viewers-to-hear-and-who cares-if-it's-shit-as-long-as-it's-popular nature of MTV that we wanted an SG video played. I hate MTV. I fucking wish we had MuchMusic over here in the U.S. w/o a satellite dish. During a vacation in Canada (I went to Whistler, a ski resort) I couldn't sleep one night. I decided to watch some TV, and in the wee hours of the morning, MuchMusic played 'Hands All Over'. And in another random viewing of MuchMusic I remember them playing the 'Rusty Cage' vid. Anyway, I agree with New Metal Crown, I'll give you that. This might be a good time to remind everyone to send all flames to the_cat17@hotmail.com. I think Holly's idea is a good one......but we'll still have to figure out which songs to request each week :). And figure out what day would be a good time for everyone. /\ /\ 'o' -The Cat _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:51:20 -0700 From: The Cat Subject: Re: Peace with the Total Request On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:36:52 EDT Ayesha Gonzalez writes: >All you do is fight over this Total request thing, if you really want >to see >a SG video then Email them, and if you don't think it will work then >FUCK >YOU, stop bitchin about it It pisses me off, we're supposed to be >writing to >this to talk about Soundgarden not to Bitch at other people about it. > This >Kinda makes me think if SOMMS is that great. All i see on the Digest >version >is a whole bunch of people argueing its kinda sad. And maybe if >peopel just >start requesting Soundgarden Video's ( doesn't matter which one) maybe >they'll >have this thing on all soundgarden videos ( here;s hoping), But >anyways.. >STOP THE BITCHING ITS IMMATURE, and who cares if someone doesn't >spell >something right! But NEways Talk to you All laterz >LATe >Ayes If you want peace with the Toatl Request thing, you sure have a funny way of showing it.....because resorting to bitching on your part is being very hypocritical. And you have about 11 spelling and capitalization errors in what you posted above :). Anyway, to everyone else on SOMMS, I was just wondering what happened to the Unofficial Soundgarden Homepage, if Seth ever posted anything up on this list about it. I now know the addy to the "under construction" version, but what's going on? Send flames to the_cat17@hotmail.com. Thank you, and have a nice day. /\ /\ 'o' -The Cat _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:08:07 -0400 From: Deborah Servey Subject: Re: Kim Thayil hosting radio show At 07:10 AM 7/22/98 PDT, you wrote: >Hey all.. > >seeing as though everyone apparently missed my post about real things >that a Soundgarden member is doing, because they were too busy >fantasising about Chris' backup band, I'll announce this again, now that >I know more details. Hmmmm, I noticed this too....sad when stuff like that happens, but it does. Anyone else notice the list prefers speculation over real stuff? >Next monday at 11pm (Eastern Time.. ie. Toronto area) on 102.1 The Edge >radio station, Kim Thayil will be hosting an environmental special. I wasn't able to tape this either, Kogg, but did you listen to it? If so, how about a full report to the list? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:44:51 EDT From: Lance Huber Subject: Re: Lance's total request In a message dated 7/27/98 7:10:28 PM, the_cat17@JUNO.COM wrote: <> Look, I've worked with MTV, OK. They do NOT tabulate viewer requests. Those Emails you see running at the bottom of the screen are pulled to FIT THE ALREADY LAYED OUT AGENDA. It's just like your stupid FM radio staions, they only play the fucking request if your request IS ALREADY ON THEIR ROTATION. Those neat little conversations you hear are pre-recorded during breaks and then played to fit the rotation. HELLO Pull your fucking head out "cat" Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:12:27 PDT From: The Koggle Subject: Re: Kim Thayil hosting radio show Deb asked: >I wasn't able to tape this either, Kogg, but did you listen to it? If so, >how about a full report to the list? As stupid as it might sound, I didn't get to hear all of it. I wish I had. I heard snippets of it and Kim sounded really intelligent; he didn't sound like he was reading his information off cards or anything. He talked lengthily about topics concerning the environment, such as endangered species, and I was totally impressed with his efforts. Eddie Vedder (known by me as the 'wise man of music') commented too, which is always a treat. It's things like this which make me proud to like the groups I do. They care about things that matter in life, and not just minor things. later all, Kogg ps. thank you niki for your wonderful post. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:17:38 EDT From: Charlie Mccutcheon Subject: Re: Kim Thayil hosting radio show did anybody tape this? i couldn't pick it up on my radio. charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:40:43 EDT From: Matt Artis Subject: Re: Totally Request Dick!! OK, I've had it. Don't want to send this to the list but I'm finally going to. This list has been nothing but flames for about a year. And I'm sick of it. So I'm gonna unsubscribe. I've been on the list 2+ years, and it sucks that I'm doing it. But I am. Let's face it, the list has gone straight downhill since the band broke up. It used to be fun and interesting and all of that. Now it is nothing more but flames and crying and whining. It is on the verge of being dead. Seth must be sick with the stuff he has to read every day. Or mabye he just deletes the crap he sees in his inbox, which I have been doing for every single total request post. It really wasnt a bad idea anyway. If something new and interesting happens, please e-mail me. You can flame me if you want (boy that would be a suprise!!!) but I will probably just delete it. And whatever you do, dont send anything concerning this letter to the list. It doesnt need to see any more flames. Bye, everyone. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:38:02 EDT From: Lance Huber Subject: Re: Totally Request Dick!! In a message dated 7/28/98 8:48:08 AM, SpoOnArTis@AOL.COM wrote: <> See ya Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:42:19 EDT From: Rachel Potter Subject: soundgarden on 90210 I've been watching old 90210 re-runs this summer and today i was watching and in the radio booth thing at school they had a poster half covered i could make out: sou loud could it be what i think?!? -Rachel p.s. the whole baywatch/chris cornell thing was great... i was laughing my ass off! ~ http://www.angelfire.com/fl/unknowngrl/index.html check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:00:48 EDT From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: Re: SOMMS Digest - 27 Jul 1998 to 28 Jul 1998 In a message dated 7/28/98 1:01:04AM, you write: << Lance, YOU are the idiot. Actual people DO have nothing better to do than beg for videos on Total Request. >> whatever. a friend of mine call up muchmusic (yeah, it's not MTV but the same idea) once to request a very old metallica video. what did the ratings- conscious operators at much say? no, we can't play that one, but we will play their new video, which happened to be the same video in the top 10 on the weekly countdown and also on heavy rotation. so they show people's e-mails on the TV, wow...lance isn't an idiot you, on the other hand, are extremly naive. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:16:36 -0400 From: Seth Perlman Subject: I'm an idiot, you're an idiot To be honest I don't give a fuck if any of you request videos or none of you request videos, but I'm tired of reading about it. I'm wearing out my delete key over here. If someone wants to start said request campaign, email the list and say the following: "I am interested in flooding [name of video channel or show] with requests for [name of video [and it had damn well better be Soundgarden if you're sending it to this list]]. The email address/phone number is [email address or phone number of video channel or show]. Please help." Do not perpetuate it with endless discussion of which video we should request based on what you think is more likely to be chosen. Do not perpetuate it with endless discussion about whether or not it will work. Just take the initiative, show some backbone, and do it. -seth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:31:25 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: Re: Totally Request Dick!! In a message dated 98-07-28 11:48:12 EDT, SpoOnArTis@AOL.COM writes: << OK, I've had it. Don't want to send this to the list but I'm finally going to. This list has been nothing but flames for about a year. And I'm sick of it. So I'm gonna unsubscribe. I've been on the list 2+ years, and it sucks that I'm doing it. But I am. Let's face it, the list has gone straight downhill since the band broke up. It used to be fun and interesting and all of that. Now it is nothing more but flames and crying and whining. It is on the verge of being dead. Seth must be sick with the stuff he has to read every day. Or mabye he just deletes the crap he sees in his inbox, which I have been doing for every single total request post. It really wasnt a bad idea anyway. If something new and interesting happens, please e-mail me. You can flame me if you want (boy that would be a suprise!!!) but I will probably just delete it. And whatever you do, dont send anything concerning this letter to the list. It doesnt need to see any more flames. Bye, everyone. Matt >> This is sad. And you know what, Matt is absolutely right about everything he just said. I have been on the verge of unsubscribing several times myself, but never did. All this list is is just crap now. It hasn't been nothing but crap since the band broke up, it was still good for quite a while. It's been like this for the past few months though, and I too am sick of it. It's at the point where I post to the list just for the sake of hearing everyone's reactions to what I have to say (I get a real kick out of it sometimes), and there are just some complete jackasses (notice how I say some, not all) who take everything so seriously or are so wrapped up with themselves that they just start to flame away, case in point, the whole Metallica incident. I hope that some of these offenders will come to their senses so that they do not drive more loyal members to leave due to frustration. Waiting to be flamed by the you-know-whos. Gallagwar "the words you say never seem to live up to the ones inside your head" or "if i should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away." would be quotes best used to sum up the present situaitons. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:47:47 EDT From: Lance Huber Subject: Re: I'm an idiot, you're an idiot In a message dated 7/28/98 10:19:33 AM, saperl@INJERSEY.COM wrote: <> God Bless him lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:51:25 EDT From: Kristin Herrera Subject: Re: PJ in S.Florida I guess so. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:44:49 EDT From: Chris Gless Subject: projects I have been reading all these posts lately and I decided that I would make my first post to the list but not bother about all the crap that has been going on in the list. Anyway what I do want to ask is whether anybody knows what the other band members are doing now besides Chris. I know Matt is touring with Pearl Jam, but what about bands like Hater or Wellwater Conspiracy? Does anybody know whether either of them are still together? I have heard Hater broke up and Ben quit WWC. I have also heard that Kim is starting another band. If anybody knows any truth to any of these I would really appreciate it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:03:02 EDT From: Troy Black Subject: Re: DREAM BAND In a message dated 98-07-24 00:43:25 EDT, mrpink@IACCESS.COM.AU writes: >> Who gives a shit about 'musicianship?' it's the songs that matter. This post is hardly worth reading once you spout something like this out, I don't know how old you are, but please, don't waste space in our mailboxes with this garbage. Troy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:42:11 EDT From: Kristin Herrera Subject: Susan the Author I was reading the aol Sg message board and this person, DawTrist said to go to the "Famous Marriages" Web Page at http://www.imdb.com/Name?Silver,+Susan It says there that in 1974 She wrote a screenplay called "The Girl Who Came Gift Wrapped" and it's executive producer was Aaron Spelling. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:54:03 -0400 From: "Michelle A. Leco" Subject: Re: Susan the Author In 1974, wouldn't Susan been around 10? I don't know her exact age, but based on the fact that Chris just turned 34, I'm assuming she's about the same age. Anyway, although it would have been cool if it was her and although it's not impossible, I'm assuming it was another Susan Silver. -----Original Message----- From: Kristin Herrera To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 4:44 PM Subject: Susan the Author >I was reading the aol Sg message board and this person, DawTrist said to go to >the "Famous Marriages" Web Page at http://www.imdb.com/Name?Silver,+Susan >It says there that in 1974 She wrote a screenplay called "The Girl Who Came >Gift Wrapped" and it's executive producer was Aaron Spelling. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:26:29 EDT From: B L Subject: Re: Susan the Author >It says there that in 1974 She wrote a screenplay called "The Girl Who Came >Gift Wrapped" and it's executive producer was Aaron Spelling. LOL Aaron Spelling.... >In 1974, wouldn't Susan been around 10? I don't know her exact age, but >based on the fact that Chris just turned 34, I'm assuming she's about the >same age. I don't know her exact age either, but I do know that she is older than Chris. 5, 6, 7 years...? Somebody please correct me.... ALSO - A friend of mine living in LA just saw Chris and Susan in the Metaphysics store she manages a week or so (maybe more maybe less) ago. Hopefully he's down there working in his album. She rang up his purchase (upon my asking what they bought my friend answered "Books") and got to talk to him a little. She said Susan looks a lot older than Chris, that Chris looked really skinny, and that he was very handsome. Just thought that was interesting since Chris sightings are so rare... Sarah (benlover) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:01:00 -0400 From: "Michelle A. Leco" Subject: Re: Susan the Author >I don't know her exact age either, but I do know that she is older than Chris. >5, 6, 7 years...? Somebody please correct me.... Rebekah said she's 39 and that she thinks it is Susan. Well, if it is, all I can say is WOW! I'd be very impressed to see someone who's about 15 get a screenplay produced. Did you see the cast list? Tom Bosley, Farrah Fawcett! Nice to know that Susan's moved onto better company. Anyway, I guess some people are just destined for the entertainment biz, one way or another. Anyway, if it is our Susan, I'm glad that she ended up managing some great bands instead of writing little-known screenplays for Aaron Spelling! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:47:28 -0400 From: "Michelle A. Leco" Subject: BMF/SOMMS on ebay This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BDBA60.8D531120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For you SOMMSless SOMMsters, there are currently 3 copies of the coveted BMF/SOMMS up for auction on ebay. 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------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BDBA60.8D531120-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:26:43 -0700 From: The Cat Subject: Hard-headed fuck you all Alright, time to start over with this list. Regardless of you crybabies posting to the list (eyes glare over to Lance) who post nothing but complete shit.....at least Star Pancake has SOME semblence of intelligence (actually, a lot)..... ....better stop here before starting another flame. No hard feelings. . . . I think if Soundgarden had a video/live recording compilation like Metallica did with Live Shit, it would be great. Only downside I see is the cost, but oh well. Everyone knows there were recordings from the DotU tour....I'd love to hear Karaoke live. What about the alleged 'B-sides' album? Anyone have info on that? Seth wrote: >To be honest I don't give a fuck if any of you request videos or none >of you >request videos, but I'm tired of reading about it. I'm wearing out my >delete key over here. Why don't you subscribe yourself to the digest version? One delete keystroke and that is that. No muss, no fuss :). As always, send all flames to the_cat17@hotmail.com. 'Just add it up to the hot rod death toll...' /\ /\ 'o' -The Cat _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:52:32 PDT From: Holly Winkler Subject: Re: Lance's total request actually, I talk to one of the guys from the radio station here all the time, and he will play things for people, whether it's already on the rotation or not. plays old SG, and van halen stuff all the time for me. Holly Winkler- beyondthewheel@hotmail.com "all the love gone bad, turned my world to black, tatooed all I see, all that I am...." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 23:36:20 EDT From: Andy Guinn Subject: Intelligence an so forth.... well now, i missed the whole metallica thing u guys were all up in arms with, so i have no say in that. I havent been on the list all that long, so i have no idea how the list was like durning the great SG years(sob). But, my .02 is that there is a LOT of bitching, whining, and so on, but thats also how some people DO react to some things! They take things WAY too seriously, and get all pissy about them, and feel the need to flame and complain! U should all be ashamed of yourselves! I would imagine teenagers, or children fighting like this, but some of you people are almost twice my age, and i havent flamed yet! I forget who said this, i think it was chris, but he said how soundgarden listeners are much more intelligent from the norm(or something along the lines of that), and im SURE as hell not seein that from some of you people! All i can say is GROW UP! -GwYn **...and bound to die alone...** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 00:47:54 EDT From: Shawnte Orion Subject: A few Soundgarden bootlegs Here is something that I posted on a Bulletin Board that I thought might be of interest to some... Re: Bootlegs.....One of the occasionally better (and boldest) bootleg labels, KTS (responsible for the Crown Of Thorns and Blow Up The Outside boots) actually maintains a web site. Well, they were shut down for a few years, but that's a long story that I will not bore you with....anyway, they have recently returned. Italy used to be the country of choice for bootleggers (Why Not? and Octopus labels, etc.), but since their laws got a little more strict, the KTS operation is now based out of Singapore. Anyway, you can go to BOOTLEGS LIVE KTS to see their inventory. They even show you the cover art and songlists for their CDs shawnte ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 28 Jul 1998 to 29 Jul 1998 ************************************************