SOMMS Digest - 17 Jul 1998 to 18 Jul 1998 [ Message/RFC822 17KB. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] There are 19 messages totalling 501 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Oh ye of little faith (10) 2. Cornell's backing band (wishful) 3. Chris solo & Eleven 4. scattered knowledge 5. chris' super band 6. Chris's Band 7. BASS, DRUM PLAYERS, VOCALIST WANTED! 8. Rocktropolis 9. Tablature 10. ok ok To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:21:41 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: Oh ye of little faith Dagny wrote: >If his solo effort was going to be his ideas alone, then it >would be wonderful. I just don't like Eleven's brand of music. Kathie wrote: >fine producing himself, but I share the concerns of those of you who >fear the influence of Eleven. I really wish he would have dumped them, >but I guess we just have to wait and see. Wooahh! I think you might be assuming too much about Eleven's 'role' on the album so early in the recording process. I could be wrong, but 'Ave Maria' always seemed to me to be a collaborative project between friends, for fun...for a good cause... with Chris' more famous name up front to sell it. Then listen to Sunshower - Alain, Natasha, Greg are all on it and it's produced jointly by Chris and Alain - yet it doesn't have any Eleven influence that I can hear. Although I can't hear the 'Seasons' comparison myself, it sounds 100% Chris. The problem I have with Eleven's as a band (and it is true of the vast majority of bands today IMO) is their lack of diversity. From song to song. >From album to album. (Okay, so the guys from Soundgarden would disagree with me, but I couldn't get into You Am I, either.) Having seen them up close live and given two of their albums a fair hearing, I still find it hard to distinguish one song from another. Apart from the single 'Reach Out' . That could *never* be said of Soundgarden and Chris - one of the many reasons why I think Soundgarden was one of the best bands on the planet. Ever. And why I, for one, doubt a Chris Cornell solo album will sound like Eleven with Chris on lead vocals. BTW does anyone have any opinions on who they'd like to see as Chris' back up musicians? A fantasy band if you will. And DON'T say Kim, Ben and Matt, ok ;-) Deb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:37:30 EDT From: Scott Levy Subject: Re: Oh ye of little faith Ok... IMO--- Dave Grohl on drums (second best drummer next to Matt), Melissa Auf Der Maur (sp?) on bass (of Hole), and maybe Jerry Cantrell for some back- up vocals? (I think his mellow voice would sound good with Chris' shrieking) Wait, that's if Chris shrieks on the new album. Ah, whatever... If no shrieking, then Layne Staley for back-up vocals... Yeah, that would sound cool. In a message dated 98-07-17 03:22:58 EDT, deborah@RUSTYCAGE.U-NET.COM writes: << BTW does anyone have any opinions on who they'd like to see as Chris' back up musicians? A fantasy band if you will. And DON'T say Kim, Ben and Matt, ok ;-) Deb >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:37:20 +1000 From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Re: Oh ye of little faith >The problem I have with Eleven's as a band (and it is true of the vast >majority of bands today IMO) is their lack of diversity. From song to song. >From album to album. (Okay, so the guys from Soundgarden would disagree with >me, but I couldn't get into You Am I, either.) So you're saying that from album to album you can't tell the difference with You Am I?? Get the hell out of here, tell me that Sound As Ever sounds the same as #4 Record. Just because you can't get into them, doesn't mean they're not diverse. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:41:14 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: Oh ye of little faith >>The problem I have with Eleven's as a band (and it is true of the vast >>majority of bands today IMO) is their lack of diversity. From song to song. >>From album to album. (Okay, so the guys from Soundgarden would disagree with >>me, but I couldn't get into You Am I, either.) >So you're saying that from album to album you can't tell the difference >with You Am I?? Get the hell out of here, tell me that Sound As Ever sounds >the same as #4 Record. Just because you can't get into them, doesn't mean >they're not diverse. Actually I was talking specifically about *Eleven's* lack of diversity. In referring to You Am I, I was merely making the point that just b/c members of Soundgarden like certain bands, it doesn't mean I will. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:58:14 EDT From: Shawnte Orion Subject: Cornell's backing band (wishful) Okay, I would love to see Mike Watt on bass, Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead) on guitar, and Barrett Martin on drums. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:59:53 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: Chris solo & Eleven I am very happy to see everyone so upset about the fact that Chris is using Eleven as his band. I can't stand Eleven. They suck. They ruined Ave Maria for me at least and could possibly do some damage to the outcome of Chris's album. Personally, I think Chris should play all the instruments on the album, provided that he has maintained his abilities to play drums and bass. That would be the ultimate showcase of Chris's talents. Gallagwar "...I wanna fly above the storm, but you can't grow feathers in the rain..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:08:42 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: Re: Oh ye of little faith In a message dated 98-07-17 03:23:02 EDT, deborah@RUSTYCAGE.U-NET.COM writes: << Then listen to Sunshower - Alain, Natasha, Greg are all on it and it's produced jointly by Chris and Alain - yet it doesn't have any Eleven influence that I can hear. Although I can't hear the 'Seasons' comparison myself, it sounds 100% Chris. >> Ah yes, you can't hear the influence of Eleven is Sunshower, but then again, Sunshower is a mellow ballad, basically an acoustic solo piece. What happens if Chris decides to rock out- which is highly likely- and their instrumentals weigh heavily on the outcome of the song? Gallagwar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:23:30 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: Re: Oh ye of little faith I have thought about this many times, actually and this is what I've come up with Chris Cornell- lead vocals He's the best singer ever, who wouldn't have him Dexter Holland and Mark Lanegan- backup vocals Mark's mellow, deep voice, when Chris is singing really high, and Dexter's whailing (sp -1) vocals when Chris's voice is lower. Vic Wooton- Bass Too incredible too pass up. Tre Cool- Drums He's not that great of a drummer, but I love him anyway. Jerry Cantrell- rhythm guitar Don't like him as a lead, but he could easily make a good rhythm guitarist. Plus yet another backup vocalist couldn't hurt. Neil Young- Lead guitar. Listen to the solo of Cinnamon Girl and you'll understand where I'm coming from. Gallagwar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:40:46 PDT From: The Koggle Subject: scattered knowledge Hey everyone not sure if this has been mentioned yet or anything, i'm on the digest, but i just heard on the radio (toronto's 102.1) that Kim Thayil was hosting a music thing.. with our lady peace and other bands that my brain neglected to remember. anyone else know more about it?? (heheh well you couldn't know LESS, could you!??!) Kogg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:48:53 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: Re: Oh ye of little faith Okay I'll jump on the dream back-up bandwagon. Tom Morello (Rage): He can't solo worth shit, but he's got a great sound so he could do rythm on the heavier stuff. Ian Thornley of Big Wreck: I like his lead guitar work, plus his low register singing reminds me a lot of Chris' low register, so he could do backing vocals as well. Jason Finn (Presidents): If he can groove that well with just a kick drum, one cymbal, snare, hi-hat, and floor tom, I'd like to see what he can do with a full set. Royston Langdon (Spacehog): I love this band but don't think Roy's vocals would go well with Chris at all, but I think his no bullshit good ol' rock and roll bass playing would go quite nicely. Anyways, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:00:23 EDT From: Charlie Mccutcheon Subject: chris' super band ok of any musicians, living or dead, id' say: david coverdaaaa....i mean chris: vocals, rhythm guitar john bohnam: drums (the only guy better than matt, although not as consistant in greatness). jimi hendrix: lead guitar jason everman: bass (psyche!) uhm...it's a toss up between cliff burton and ben for bass duties. their the best bassists i've ever heard. untill i hear someone better suited that's who i'm sticking to. maybe i'll come up with a more realistic list later. charlie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:04:09 -0700 From: Andrew Snodgrass Subject: Re: Oh ye of little faith Matt Hammons wrote: > > Okay I'll jump on the dream back-up bandwagon. > > Tom Morello (Rage): He can't solo worth shit, but he's got a great sound so he > could do rythm on the heavier stuff. > > Ian Thornley of Big Wreck: I like his lead guitar work, plus his low register > singing reminds me a lot of Chris' low register, so he could do backing vocals > as well. > > Jason Finn (Presidents): If he can groove that well with just a kick drum, one > cymbal, snare, hi-hat, and floor tom, I'd like to see what he can do with a > full set. > > Royston Langdon (Spacehog): I love this band but don't think Roy's vocals > would go well with Chris at all, but I think his no bullshit good ol' rock and > roll bass playing would go quite nicely. > > Anyways, > Matt Ok. You all have been setting up some great back up bands for Chris but try this on for size... Jim "Reverend Horton" Heath on guitar. Now if you know who the Rev is you understand why he is a good pick. Jeff Ament or Lee Rocker on bass. You all know how great Jeff is on bass and Lee Rocker... Well one of the greatest Rockabilly bass players ever (I'd like to see him do some hard core stuff with Chris). Scott Churilla (Reverend Horton Heat) or Carter Beauford (Dave Matthews Band). Scott is one of the greatest drummers around, almost as good as Matt, and I think he would so good with the stuff Chris will write. Carter on the other hand is PROBABLY the best drummer I heave ever seen. He has a total of like 30 drums, cymbals, cow bells, etc. You name it Carter has it on his drum set. He can do so much stuff it's like there is 3 people playing drums at the same time. He would go great with the Chris stuff. Now for all the little sound affects and little things I would have to go with the great Richard D. James a.k.a. Aphex Twin a.k.a. Caustic Window a.k.a. The Dice Man a.k.a. Polygon Window a.k.a. etc. RDJ is the Master of little sounds and vocal editing. No. There are no other singers for backups and stuff like that except maybe The Rev on a few and also Carter. Eddie V. could guest on a few but hey.. It's Chris' album and I think the only on here that should be doing lead vocals is Chris. He would also be doing most of the guitar work except solos and all that stuff, because if you remember from on of the interviews with Alain and Natasha Chris said "I can't get that pinkie thing down. It hurts to much." -- -AS mailto:asnod@home.com http://www.csusm.edu/public/guests/asnod/ |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, we are the greatest RFTC" | | | | -Speedo, Rocket From The Crypt | | | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:43:48 EDT From: Mike Liacone Subject: Chris's Band these are who i would like to see, jerry cantrell, lead steve turner, rythm daniel house, bass norman scott, drums ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 20:36:54 EDT From: Nick Boos Subject: BASS, DRUM PLAYERS, VOCALIST WANTED! Once again, Arden and I are looking to start up a Soundgarden cover band with myself on some vocals and lead guitar and Arden on rythem guitar. We still need another vocalist, for most vocals, a bass player, and a drummer. Who better to make a band of, other than SOMMSters. You will need to live in Seattle or the imediate area and perferbally 18 years old or younger. If you think that this would be cool please email me and ill try to hook up and work out times to reherse. If there is more than one person that would like to fulfill these spots then a tryout will happen sometime. Thanks In advance! -Nick aka Spackle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:57:08 EDT From: Kathleen Burrows Subject: Re: Rocktropolis i dont know what happened to that address... urr uhh... if that helps... just use the imusic one i guess... anywhoski, did anyone go chek out pj last nite at Arco Arena in sacramento?? just wanted to know how it was... chat yall up later!! adios and keep on truckin!! peace, love, hope, faith, soup and s o u n d g a r d e n always groovy, kathleen : )) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 23:49:56 -0230 From: Garden_Freek Subject: Tablature Hello fellow sommsters. I joined the list today (for about the 3rd time). Just wondering does anyone know of any sites that have totd or wwc tabs? -- Marc soundgarden@tophosting.com http://home.avint.net/~rhollett/index.html ~VISIT TEMPLE OF THE GARDEN~ "How would I know that this could be my fate?" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:26:41 EDT From: Joe Palmer Subject: ok ok allright i think that everybody that is complainig about 11 should stop because i feel if chris likes them that they cant suck that bad really sorry for complaining joe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 00:14:23 EDT From: Nathan Gilmore Subject: Re: Oh ye of little faith Hmmmmmm, this could be fun. Chris- Lead Vocals, guitar Art Alexakis-Lead guitar, backing vocals Nate Mendel- Bass Oh man it is SO hard to think of a better drummer than Matt. I dont think I can. I guess I'll have to choose one though. I guess since John Bohnam is dead, hes out of the question. I would have to go with Taylor Hawkins, however since it is Chris' solo project maybe a more boring drummer such as Phil Selway or Greg Eklund would be more effective because it would put more emphasis on Chris. By the way this week I just got Badmotorfinger/SOMMS and Louder than Live video cassette. They are both awesome! ~Nate "the dirt beneath your feet" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:26:29 -0400 From: inri Subject: Re: Oh ye of little faith >Hmmmmmm, this could be fun. agreed vox/rhythym : chris (duh) lead : frank zappa someone who's alive..........reeves gabrels bass : Tony Levin drums : phil collins (if he decides he wants to make music, instead of money) if not.........dave grohl keyboards(yes....a keyboard player!), etc : cEvin key now.......THATS a band! ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 17 Jul 1998 to 18 Jul 1998 ************************************************