SOMMS Digest - 5 Jul 1998 to 6 Jul 1998 [ 16KB. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] There are 14 messages totalling 370 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. speaking of tribute... 2. PJ/Boot Camp 3. Soundgarden Tribute Bands 4. "You know why Soundgarden sang Jesus Christ Pose? 5. SOUNDGRDNx 6. corgan & thayil and other crap... (2) 7. cover bands (6) 8. I think I'll turn it back around... To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 01:23:05 -0500 From: Geoff Subject: speaking of tribute... I just got back from Edgefest in Winnipeg. I just thought I would mention, for those that may be interested, that headliners, The Tea Party played broke into a jam of the slow part in Rusty Cage during the Bazaar. It put a wide smile on my face, knowing that such a cool band digs SG. Over and out... Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 09:46:11 -0500 From: Andy Subject: PJ/Boot Camp SOMMies This isn't very SG related, but did anyone else see Eddie Vedder on the Cubs game on the 4th. He was on WGN 720 AM and WGN Ch.9 on TV. He was speaking with Steve Stone and Ron Santo, then sang a beautiful rendition of take me out to the ball game with his stylin' Cubs helmet on. They performed in Chicago a week ago, so is he just taking a quick break from his tour schedule? As for SG stuff, I just started listening to Boot Camp a lot and I love that song. I'm sure we've all felt like that at sometime or other; whenever I hear it I think of how much better my life would be if I could go back home to Portland instead of being stuck out here in Chicago. I wish it was longer though. I have a rememdy though - I just put the CD player on repeat and fall asleep to it. I sure miss that SG depressimism. ttyl, Andy "There must be something else There must be something good Far Away" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:49:40 EDT From: Matt Hammons Subject: Re: Soundgarden Tribute Bands In a message dated 98-07-05 01:10:43 EDT, GarlicSoul@AOL.COM writes: << Hey, Here's a band name for a SG cover band, KARAOKE. Yeah, this band that we all love for their originality and creativity will probably be really impressed that they could not inspire their listeners to anything more ambitious than a cover band. Cover bands have never been, and never will be, very "core." >> The Shemps, does that sound familiar? Weren't they a cover band at the beginning?!?!?!?!? Christ, people just wants to play! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 13:05:25 EDT From: Shawnte Orion Subject: "You know why Soundgarden sang Jesus Christ Pose? So you wouldn't have to." At least the Shemps (not that I am condoning them) were a generic cover band (thus having no marketable angle), not a band that rides the coattails of an already successful group's name. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 13:43:28 -0500 From: Ugly Truth Subject: Re: SOUNDGRDNx Someone said that Chris' screen name was SOUNDGRDNx and that he was on aol at the time. This DOES mean that the email address is SOUNDGRDNx@aol.com , since aol emails are the screenname@aol.com, but come on, i DOUBT he uses it. -Ugly Truth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 14:54:56 EDT From: Kathleen Burrows Subject: corgan & thayil and other crap... <> Speaking of attiudes, I knows that SG are not mean dudes er nothin, but does anyone know WHY kim and billy corgan have this sorta fued?? i remember like reading stuff where (i THINK) kim said "fuk billy corgan" or SOMETHIN like that. and they didn't like i each other. i dunno... now remember kids, this is a FATTIE guess... im not setting ANYTHING in stone... alrites?? just curious... ANYwhoski to add to Dave (Cosh)'s post about Chris' email thing: I was just CURIOUS about the address, i never mentioned i would email Chris... good gravy... anywhoski, chat yall up later!! adios and keep on truckin!! peace, love, hope, faith, soup and s o u n d g a r d e n always groovy, kathleen : )) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 13:11:37 PDT From: Arden SunGod Subject: cover bands A question to those against the cover band idea: do any of you play insturments? We are not riding the coattails of anyone, we just happen to greatly enjoy playing Soundgarden. It's amazing, and thrilling to hear your own band play a Soundgarden song, with your own little twist. How could we be writing their coattails if we're just jamming somewhere in no name nowhere alone in a garage? If you call that riding coattails, then you better take all the tabs off all the sites out there, since playing Soundgarden on your guitar is so damn lame. And beside, if you're so against this, dont join a cover band! We're not hurting anyone. We're just trying to have a little fun in an altogether boring summer. -Arden ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 19:10:14 -0400 From: El Conspiraco Subject: Re: corgan & thayil and other crap... Speaking of attiudes, I knows that SG are not mean dudes er nothin, but does anyone know WHY kim and billy corgan have this sorta fued?? i remember like reading stuff where (i THINK) kim said "fuk billy corgan" or SOMETHIN like that. and they didn't like i each other. i dunno... now remember kids, this is a FATTIE guess... im not setting ANYTHING in stone... alrites?? just curious... ANYwhoski to add to Dave (Cosh)'s post about Chris' email thing: I was just CURIOUS about the address, i never mentioned i would email Chris... good gravy... anywhoski, chat yall up later!! adios and keep on [] Just replying.... First off...why'd you even bring it up? If you brought it up..someone MIGHT e-ma il him. For god's sakes..use some common sense! Secondly, Kim was in a ban in Australia, and Billy came up to him and like...ask ed him what his sign was.Kim used his oh-so-delightful insults and made him cry. Cheers for Kim. Boos for Billy. Cause of the article in Spin that described this, I am, to this day, a Pumpkins hater... Dave P.S. Anywhoski sounds so stupid. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 19:37:34 EDT From: Nathan Gilmore Subject: Re: cover bands I am a drummer and know how difficult it is to imitate Matt Cameron. If your drummer is good enough to play stuff by Matt he must be pretty damn good. In fact if he can play most SG songs, he belongs in a freakin' professional band, not some cover band. I can only play a handfull of SG songs on drums, while I can play basically every song of other bands I like. Also, I just bought Alive in the Superunknown this week. So far in the Superunknown I have found the My Wave video, Kickstand Live performance, the break out game, and of course watching Artis kill the spoons. I'm sure there are plenty of cool things I haven't found yet, but I love Alive in the Superunknown. I would love to have a CD rom with ALL of Soundgarden's videos on it. That would be so awesome! ~Nate "the dirt beneath your feet" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 22:05:08 -0400 From: Anna Mincieli Subject: Re: cover bands I guess I'm giving my age away on this one, but years ago, most bands did cover songs just to get there foot in the door. I had to do it myself, just to get a gig. A club owner would not book you if the audience didn't know what songs you were playing. It was all about pleasing their customers. My band was able to work in a few of our own material. What really sucked, was that every band on the circuit were playing the same songs. Being in a Soundgarden tribute band would be the ultimate, just for the fun of it. Music is supposed to be about having fun. The music business itself, is what sucks. I'd audition for lead singer, just for the fun of it. That sounds better then working on this very boring demo, which probably never will be heard. Arden, more power to ya!!! If I ever get over to Seattle, I'd love to hear ya's play. KEEP ON ROCKIN' IN THE FREE WORLD!!! P&L Anna ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 22:38:48 -0600 From: Kathie Opon Subject: Re: I think I'll turn it back around... Laura Fletcher wrote: > I have a song interp on "Like Suicide"... I found your interpretation interesting, and you see the song very similarly to the way I do - but exactly the opposite. > Basically, I > think the dead bird theory could be right, but that's not > ACTUALLY what the > lyrics are about. This is also how I feel, and another example, to me, of what makes Chris such a genius with lyrics. He took this experience and made it into what I see as a very personal, emotional song. Your interpretation makes the singer (Chris or whoever) into the one who has provided this eye-opening experience about love to this other poor person. I see the song as a description of how Chris feels about love - that the "Love's like suicide" refers to his love. Let me explain. Chris uses alot of "restraint" imagery - the gilded cage for instance. I think he is referring to how being in love is sort of a trap, that sometimes sucks the life right out of a person. We've all seen people in love (hell, most of us have done it!) mooning over the object of their affection, or people starving themselves to be thin and more attractive for the person they love, or neglecting themselves and their old friends in order to do things to please the person they love; I could go on and on. And when you are married sometimes it does feel like you are in a cage, because you certainly don't have the same freedoms (if you value your vows that is) that single people do. I always saw this song as expressing Chris' feelings of the ties of love perhaps being too binding, or at least limiting. Love is Like Suicide: if I love, then part of me dies in order to incorporate this other person. Or maybe the person he was before he fell in love is now dead, since we change in a relationship. Anyway, that's my take on the song..... Kathie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:17:11 +1000 From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Re: cover bands >I guess I'm giving my age away on this one, but years ago, most bands >did cover songs just to get there foot in the door. I had to do it >myself, just to get a gig. There must be somewhere you can play originals??? Somewhere? >A club owner would not book you if the >audience didn't know what songs you were playing. It was all about >pleasing their customers. My band was able to work in a few of our own >material. What really sucked, was that every band on the circuit were >playing the same songs. Yeah that's what shits me about all the cover bands I see, always the same shite. All cover bands out there, stop playing Live, Pearl Jam and Matchbox 20 we're sick of it! >That sounds better then working on this >very boring demo, which probably never will be heard. That's such a defeatist attitude. Anyhow, all the people I know in cover bands play gigs elsewhere under another name with their own material. They just play covers for the money, which keeps their proper band funded which sounds like a good idea. If you were only in a cover band though....I couldn't understand that. Whoever is playing in a Sg cover band, if you can play lots of Soundgarden you must have some talent so play your own stuff as well. Anyhow, bye ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 21:49:49 -0700 From: Brian Kirkner Subject: Re: cover bands For me, cover bands are just a waste of time. My band attempted to play Outshined a few weeks ago, and it was at least 20 times harder than everyone expected. Sure, we could play along with the Badmotorfinger CD, and play all the parts on our own, but the problem is putting it all together. None of us enjoyed doing it even after two days, so we just decided not to do it (for a long time, anyway) instead of getting pissed at eachother and getting violent. I'm not saying that no one should attempt to cover soundgarden, but for me, I'm more able to appreciate Soundgarden when I'm not playing their music. It can be a really good, or a really bad experience, depending on concentration. Good luck to whoever's doing it! ...And a big "fuck you" goes out to me... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:43:01 EDT From: Mike Gallagher Subject: Re: cover bands I am on both sides of this little argument. I, too am in a band. We have played many gigs at some fairly well-known sites including the Stone Pony in Asbury Park, NJ. We have never needed to do cover songs to get gigs or even "get our foot in the door," but we still play them for the fun of it. We have a demo in which the first side is all original and the second side is all covers. We have covered Soundgarden (No Attention, Flower and She Likes Surprises), Live (t.b.d.), Weezer (My Name is Jonas), Alice In Chains (Man In the Box), Foo Fighters (Hey Johnny Park), and Green Day (2000 Light Years Away and Welcome To Paradise). We only decided to do cover songs to see what we could do with the tunes for fun, our original work was the main reason for making the demo. The cover work was only to fill the second side of the tape. We sold many tapes all over school and at several of our shows, and at our shows we play nothing but our original work. Being in a cover band is great, in fact, being in a band...period...is fuckin' awesome. However, being an original band is what helps you "get your foot in the door." Gallagwar ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 5 Jul 1998 to 6 Jul 1998 **********************************************