SOMMS Digest - 18 May 1998 to 19 May 1998 [ Message/RFC822 19KB. ] [ Unable to print this part. ] There are 15 messages totalling 472 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. A wonderful feeling... (2) 2. butow single 3. My theory on these strange feelings 4. Fwd: My theory on these strange feelings 5. a wonderful feeling 6. man this suks 7. sorry im new 8. sean lennon+wwc 9. a wonderful feeling... 10. At odds 11. a non flame letter (2) 12. question bout spoonman (2) To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 02:49:57 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: A wonderful feeling... I, too, don't listen as much as I used to, and sometimes the songs sort of go right through me and I hardly notice. I love and listen to WWC a lot, but mostly it's Hater, Hater, Hater these days (especially the bootleg stuff). I'm sure things will shift. We have different needs at different times in our lives, even in different seasons. It's disturbing when what we thought we couldn't live without suddenly cools for us, but that doesn't mean it won't be what we need again. We have heard all those things an awful lot, and we probably need a break to let them be fresh for us again later. I think the distance we feel comes somewhat from our only being able to live them within ourselves these days. They simply don't exist anymore to the world at large. But last night, I was in here and my hubby was channel surfing in the other room. I heard the unmistakable opening strains of BHS and ran out to the living room. He had landed on Mattrock and there was BHS in all its glory, and it felt so strange to see it on TV, not because I was playing the video, but on TV, someone else's doing. It suddenly became more real for me again, like I realized I hadn't just dreamed all this up in my own mind. Does that make sense to anyone else? Jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:26:09 -0500 From: tonerkin Subject: Re: butow single At 10:03 PM 5/15/98 -0400, jenny grover wrote: >> does anyone have part 1 or part 2 of the butow single? is a poster >> included in either of the parts? does it match the image found at >> http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/images/poster2.jpg >> ? Thanks in advance. > >I have a Part II British in a cardboard box-like sleeve that has the >single and a poster, but my poster is not that picture (I wish it >was!!). It's one from the hallway with the wall sconces, like on DOTU. > >Jen Gee! let me see if I can guess why Jen would want this particular picture? Could it be Ben in LEATHER pants??? Oh the fantasies going on!! Sort of like my fantasy of Kim, Taj Mahal beer and Tandori Chicken!!! FYI: Steve and Eydie update: From the Gary Post Tribune. 5/15/98 "Legendary duo show their range by tackling Soundgarden Lyrics" "Steve and Eydie do Soundgarden? Believe it baby. The commodores of cocktail music actually recorded the punk metal band's Black Hole Sun for a quirky Hollywood Records album titled 'Lounge-A- Palooza' rock meets-swank compilation released a few months ago. On the phone last week, Steve Lawrence recalled his initial reaction when the Soundgarden project was pitched: 'Are you nuts?' The crooner conceded he was 'frightened' when he heard what he and his wife were supposed to record. 'It's not really what we're into' said the singer. 'they said, Look,we want you to do it your way, not the way these guys did it.' So the singing duo which is used to belting out at Caesar's Palace and the Desert Inn took a 32-piece orchestra to Black Hole Sun. Lawrence liked the experience but not the way the album that featured it sold. " I just wish it had done better' said the 62 year old 'it did OK but not great.'" I don't think I can add anything to this! It speaks for itself! Yikes! toni ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:17:55 EDT From: KAISERVRBL Subject: Re: A wonderful feeling... It's funny when you think about it; all the different phases & phrases we go through. See, I am going through just the opposite ordeal as the rest of you. I just CANNOT get into anything else. Try as I might (and I try a lot, cruising the used CD stores, tho bootleg racks, even delving back into older stuff I may have missed the first time around, like an old Screaming Trees etc.) I just simply cannot get anything to satisfy me. So I keep playing Soundgarden, over and over and over again. Admittedly, I have a ton of Soundgarden stuff between bootlegs, singles, compilations, the Mouth of Decadence tapes, but nothing else moves me. the closest thing I've come to that has given me any type os satisfaction has been Yield. I feel as though I am living in the past, unable to break free of anything pre-1995. It doesn't help that all new music absolutely sucks (I mean even the new Jerry Cantrell was a MAJOR disappointment) I dunno. We all go through different stuff I just seem to be spiraling in the opposite direction. And while all this happens, I lock myself in the bathroom & pray that 1 - Chris releases his solo album this fall & 2 - that it doesn't suck. SG's music may not always have the emotional impact on me that it did when it was fresh & brand new, but nothing ever has & I doubt ever will, come close to moving me the way the collected works of a little grunge band who made it big did at a crucial volitale time of life. To sum it all up, what does all this prior rambling mean? Hell if I know. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:30:06 EDT From: Nothng2Say Subject: My theory on these strange feelings Okay everybody here goes, What did most of us do just about two years ago?If you know what I'm talking about, then what did most of us do two years before that? Now, in this two years after May 1996 what does it feel like we should be doing now? Therein lies the "if only" period, which is upon us now. Matt H. P.S. If this isn't making sense................well you should know the rest. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:36:36 EDT From: Nothng2Say Subject: Fwd: My theory on these strange feelings This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_895512996_boundary Content-ID: <0_895512996@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_895512996_boundary Content-ID: <0_895512996@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: Nothng2Say Return-path: To: SOMMS@MIT.EDU Subject: My theory on these strange feelings Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:30:06 EDT Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Okay everybody here goes, What did most of us do just about two years ago?If you know what I'm talking about, then what did most of us do two years before that? Now, in this two years after May 1996 what does it feel like we should be doing now? Therein lies the "if only" period, which is upon us now. Matt H. P.S. If this isn't making sense................well you should know the rest. --part0_895512996_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:59:43 EDT From: UnknownGrl Subject: Re: a wonderful feeling In a message dated 98-05-18 02:14:49 EDT, you write: << i don't know, i just feel very far from soundgarden lately. i know it's perfectly normal to not listen to your favorite band because you just get tired of hearing that same few songs over and over....but this feels weird. >> I feel the same way... just today i had the choice of picking from weezer, hole, or soundgarden... and i picked weezer. I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm really stressed out right now, juggleing a job, exams, and a social life.... I'll probably feel better once school's out. -Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:06:27 EDT From: SokJunky55 Subject: man this suks >:\ what the hell?? i dont care if what people post is "logical" or not. i miss getting somms thingys from HELLA people. its as if everyone died!! x (~ it suks. are peoplenot posting because they forgot to confirm their ghetto little reminder thing?? eh eh?? oh wells... uhh... yeah. chat yall up laters. adios and keep on truckin!! peace, love, hope, faith, soup and s o u n d g a r d e n always groovy, kathleen : )) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:17:03 EDT From: Sunknown1 Subject: sorry im new hello all you soomsters im kind of new to the mailing list and not to bring up skeletons from the closet but what wass the big deal a liitle bit back about cris's middle name just woundering thanx Joe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:10:55 EDT From: CTMc4 Subject: sean lennon+wwc is it just me or does sean lennon sound exactly like a) his dad, b)ben. his stuff sounds like wwc+ hip hop influence= trippily cool stuff. were wwc going to change their name now that ben left and josh homme is taking over? anyone doubtful about the second wwc record may be put to ease. from what i've heard from kyuss (josh's other band) the next wwc should rock at least as much as the first. charlie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:54:52 -0500 From: Gary Rees Subject: Re: a wonderful feeling... I don't know about the rest of you guys Soundgarden loistening nowadays comes to me in phases. Sometimes I feel like I'm sick of them and don't listen to them for 2 months and then a have this strange need to pop in a SG CD and listen to it, then i'm hooked for about another 2 months. It's kind of strange because it makes me wonder if i really do like Soundgarden that much anymore and maybe one day i'll head down to the CD exchange and sell all my CD's and that'll be the end of it. I'm pretty scared it might happen because SG was the only band I really like and I HAVE NEVER EVER Found a band a liked as much ( even pearl Jam which I still like a lot and maybe Metallica comes close, but still isn't my favorite.)and I wonder if i'll ever find a band that equals their Awesomeness. They agree with my Brain Chemicals. The Greasy Reesy + SG= Good Chemicals makes me feel gooooooodddddaaaaaa. Later, My people " I've great big blisters on bloodshot eye from looking at that longlegged woman up ahead..." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:53:53 PDT From: Arden SunGod Subject: At odds I guess I'm just at odds with all of you. Lately I haven't been able to tear myself away from Soundgarden.. I just got 4 new boots (Fresh Deadly Rarities, Supermainstream, Reading 95, and Nosebleed) and a bunch of new vinyl (Screaming Life, LTL) and I haven't listened to anything except maybe Pearl Jam (concert anticipation!) for the last month or so. I dont know whats up, but I was feeling a little far away from them. I get that way sometimes, and when I'm like that I cant get enough of them... Once odd, always odd -Arden (listening to Supermainstream as she types) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:04:31 EDT From: GreenC1838 Subject: a non flame letter otay, i guess compared to all of you, im a relativley new listener to SG. Sure, i ve got all the albums(no bootlegs or rareities unfourtunetly), but i still luv SG all the same. I didnt cry when they broke up, I was sad and all that the band i was REALLY getting into was breaking up, and i cant be excited to here " hey, soundgardens got a new album comin out next month!" I try and get evrything i can when i find it and have some moola in me hand, but i dont spend 60 bucks on 1 cd(weel, maybe somms, but when would that ever happen???).Basically, what im sayin is that when i read that you guys sit and cry and reflect about the good old when SG was together, i cant help but laugh!(I know that was REALLY mean, i dont mean it to flame or anything, but just listen to my reasoning if you will). Yes, SG was a great band, and they were different from anything that has ever been made. But you have to realize , they were a BAND, they didnt make world peace, they didnt fix the ozone layer, they just made music because they loved to do it. Quoting Mr. Thyail..."We Are Not Your Heroes". You may have your own reasons why you like them so much(emotionally i mean), but it all seems kinda rediculous to me that people could be THAT worked up over something that seems so significant in retrospect(whoa, lotsa big words there!). I dont mean to start a whole big Flame war, but i just want to share what some people do think when some of u die hard fans say in some of your letters. Peace to u all! -GwYn **...and bound to die alone...** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:13:08 EDT From: GreenC1838 Subject: question bout spoonman hey sommsters, i was wondering, in the lyric book of SU, in spoonman, at the end it says " thank you and good night", or something along the means of that. Is it just me, or is it not in the song??? Why is it there if its not in the song??? -GwYn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:20:58 -0500 From: Jon-Paul Andolina Subject: Re: question bout spoonman -----Original Message----- From: GreenC1838 To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 10:06 PM Subject: question bout spoonman >hey sommsters, i was wondering, in the lyric book of SU, in spoonman, at the >end it says " thank you and good night", or something along the means of that. >Is it just me, or is it not in the song??? Why is it there if its not in the >song??? >-GwYn > Its there just turn it up real loud and listen closely jpa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:58:42 EDT From: niki freer Subject: Re: a non flame letter *GwYn* wrote: >Basically, what im sayin is that when i read that you guys >sit and cry and reflect about the good old when SG was together, i cant help >but laugh! <> >Yes, SG was a great band, and they >were different from anything that has ever been made. But you have to >realize, they were a BAND, they didnt make world peace, they didnt fix the >ozone layer, they just made music because they loved to do it. Quoting Mr. >Thyail..."We Are Not Your Heroes". (thoughts are gathered) i have a question for you. what is the single biggest inspiration you've ever had in your entire life? what is the one SINGLE thing that has touched you deeper and closer and more importantly than anything else on this entire planet? what if for you it was as simple as a dog, or some other pet? should we sit back and laugh because maybe we just don't get it? NO! you are inspired by what you are inspired by. whether it be an animal, a person, or a *band.* Soundgarden is without a shadow of a doubt one of the biggest influences my life has ever come into. they have created a career for me, one that i would have never considered nor tried for without ever listening to them. and you know what? i'm good at what i've chosen to aspire towards! because of them i just might make something of myself in the future! and you know what? that's more help than any human being has ever given me! granted, yes, they are human and mortal and all that jazz. but *music* is not mortal. music is alive forever, it grows and is created and recorded and never ever dies. it is as immortal as the unicorn and as mystical and magical as the whispers of a "god" somewhere up in the vast universe (ooh, the dramatics!). it is something that carries many people day to day, including myself. so when i lament over the passing of what i deem to be the best music i've ever heard and the passing of what i believe to be a fucking miracle of sorts, i would ask that you please not laugh. >You may have your own reasons why you like >them so much(emotionally i mean), but it all seems kinda rediculous >to me that people could be THAT worked up over something that seems so >significant in retrospect(whoa, lotsa big words there!). i am assuming you meant to say *insignificant* in that sentence full o'big-uns. when something touches you this deeply, when something fully contributes to the future of yourself and when something changes your life forever...then you'll understand. it won't seem at all "rediculous." in fact, it'll seem downright brilliant. > i just want to share what some people do >think when some of u die hard fans say in some of your letters. and that is what i think of your comments. just wanted to share the fact that when you laugh at anyone for their feelings that are deep, it can hurt and hurt bad. think what you will, speak out as much as you feel like it, but Soundgarden has touched me in ways i never imagined. maybe i'm not listening right now, maybe i never will (doubtful), but i'll never forget what they did for me. and if that's laughable, then hell- cackle away. just to let everyone know (because you have to tread so carefully anylonger) this was not a flame. this was a strong disagreement ;-). mind riot (who's talked so much this week, many apologies if you're sick of me!) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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