Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 02:00:07 -0500 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 7 Feb 1998 to 8 Feb 1998 There are 16 messages totalling 511 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. ever have this happen to you? (6) 2. Entertainment Supplement 3. survey (4) 4. SERVEY 5. SOMMS Digest - 6 Feb 1998 to 7 Feb 1998 6. MP3s 7. Searchin With My Bad Eye Open 8. Louder Than Live? To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 04:37:18 -0500 From: NIKI FREER Subject: ever have this happen to you? hello sommsters. please forgive me if i ramble, but i needed to say this to someone who would understand. i need this to fall on the deaf ears of 700 people for some odd reason, but i just need it to. even if you all skip this damn post and go on to read more about whose A-Sides skips where... do whatever you will with this post. soundgarden. what does that word mean? no, this isn't a retrospective a la niki freer, it's me being arty and sensitive tonight, and totally affected more than ever by their music. you may say i'm a little down on myself right now, for no goddamn reason because i've got everything going my way for once. but as i sit here and listen to superunknown for the 8 trillionth time or something like that, i am so very deeply touched by 'like suicide.' not even the whole song, not even the words, not even the amazing creation that was that band that left us so long ago now (hey everyone, it's been almost a year now)... but by a certian tone in the singers voice at one milli instant. this is the kind of thing that makes me fall in love with something. one single, isolated, minute space of time where everything is so perfect you have to cry. what in hell am i blathering about, you ask? the very first time cornell utters the line "she lived like a murder how she'd fly so sweetly..." just about tore my soul out of my very being tonight, right about ten minutes ago. the way his voice is so low, so emotional; how it changes pitch and tone and shifts ever-so- slightly on the word "sweetly" made tears spring hot to my eyes and opened a wound in my soul i'd forgotten was there. of course the rest of the song rang truer and deeper than anything i've ever heard in the time span that it exsisted, flowing out of my speakers like fine wine. but that few seconds... i'd rambled on, waxed philosophical and poetic to a few friends already tonight, but not until that tiny moment did i realize exactly how i was feeling. chris cornell, ben shepherd, matt cameron, and kim thayil captured my exact bizarre emotion in a single WORD for chissakes. how does an emotion of everything i'm feeling right now, all the confusion, all the sorrow, all the frightened reality checks, get wrapped up in a word so sickly ironic of the whole situation?? the word "sweetly" just summed up my entire emotional state right now. sweetly! that's ridiculous! i am floored regularly by soundgarden, and will probably be for the rest of my life. they never cease to amaze me, no matter that i only have 5 albums and 2 ep's to work off of for the rest of my days. tonight just proved it to me. but i have never been so completely speechless because of something they've done. 'tighter & tighter' made me love them so damned deeply, 'mind riot' made me realize their brilliance. 'smokestack lightning' and 'loud love' made me shiver with the vocal range cornell has. '4th of july' made me fall into a trance; 'ty cobb' made me go nuts. but nothing has ever done something this powerful to me. how in hell does something like this happen? mind riot ____ remember everything is just black or burning sun sleep tight for me i'm gone ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOUNDGARDEN 1984-1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TO: RDTN74C ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:04:39 EST From: Matt Hammons Subject: Re: ever have this happen to you? I totally know where you're coming from. Actually my moment in that song is not the word "sweetly" but the really really ultra-awesome vibrato and tone he puts on the word "so" right before it. Like Suicide as soon as I first heard it, (I know the time and place still) has always been my favorite song. It is such an awesome example of how a song builds. First it's Chris' low voice plus lower distortion plus Matt playing with his snares off. And if you'll notice, up until the end of the second chorus we hear gradually 1) Chris' voice goes up the octave 2) Distortion gets heavier 3)Snares get turned on. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:07:47 EST From: Matt Hammons Subject: Entertainment Supplement In our college newspaper, we receive a supplementary version of Entertainment Weekly, In this edition they had an interview with everyone's favorite veejay Matt Pinfield. In it he lists one of his "Desert Island Discs" as the one the only Badmotorfinger. I guess one more reason to love the little troll. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 12:13:55 -0600 From: Tom Gipson Subject: Re: ever have this happen to you? On the subject of great songs, i downloaded a lot of b-sides and stuff i never knew existed. And, by far, the best song ever made is Sub Pop Rock City. what is it on? how can i get it? also, who else thinks the FOBD demo is better than the one on the CD? (superunknown of course). finally, soon i'll be leaving the list and will sign back on at: allyourlies@yahoo.com. thank you. Tom "I've always thought progressive rock is a terrible thing. Whoever plays it should be set on fire." -Ler On Sat, 7 Feb 1998, Matt Hammons wrote: > I totally know where you're coming from. Actually my moment in that song is > not the word "sweetly" but the really really ultra-awesome vibrato and tone he > puts on the word "so" right before it. Like Suicide as soon as I first heard > it, (I know the time and place still) has always been my favorite song. It is > such an awesome example of how a song builds. First it's Chris' low voice > plus lower distortion plus Matt playing with his snares off. And if you'll > notice, up until the end of the second chorus we hear gradually 1) Chris' > voice goes up the octave 2) Distortion gets heavier 3)Snares get turned on. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:10:23 EST From: Devin Winters Subject: survey I am doing a survey for school about the BEST SOUNDGARDEN SONG EVER. So please respond with your answer to the best soundgarden song ever. thanks alot ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 10:20:45 -0800 From: Jordan Snodgrass Subject: Re: ever have this happen to you? Tom Gipson wrote: > On the subject of great songs, i downloaded a lot of b-sides and stuff i > never knew existed. And, by far, the best song ever made is Sub Pop Rock > City. what is it on? how can i get it? It's on SubPop200. Go to http://www.subpop.com/ > also, who else thinks the FOBD demo is better than the one on the CD? > (superunknown of course). Apples and oranges, my friend. I can see comparing something like Birth Ritual and its demo, but FOBD and its demo are completely different songs... comparison is futile. -- bye bye -js mailto:jordans@ucsd.edu http://sdcc10.ucsd.edu/~jasnodgr/fm/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:30:17 EST From: Jenna Freemon Subject: Re: ever have this happen to you? In a message dated 98-02-07 04:39:19 EST, you write: << ou may say i'm a little down on myself right now, for no goddamn reason because i've got everything going my way for once. but as i sit here and listen to superunknown for the 8 trillionth time or something like that, i am so very deeply touched by 'like suicide.' not even the whole song, not even the words, not even the amazing creation that was that band that left us so long ago now (hey everyone, it's been almost a year now)... but by a certian tone in the singers voice at one milli instant. this is the kind of thing that makes me fall in love with something. >> I feel your pain. I go through a phase of a Soundgarden sickness. It hurts becuase i think that they could of made more records and I always wonder what that would of been like. I am constntly listening to the lyrics and even studing their meaning. I feel truly obsessed, and proud. I have finally found my meaning of true music and SG always hits the spot. I dont know where my SG deprssion even comes from, but i guess i get in this mood that I miss them so dearly. I love them. Jenna :o) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:07:46 -0800 From: Bill Flanders Subject: Re: ever have this happen to you? >> also, who else thinks the FOBD demo is better than the one on the CD? >> (superunknown of course). > > Apples and oranges, my friend. I can see comparing something like Birth > Ritual and its demo, but FOBD and its demo are completely different songs... >comparison > is futile. I don't like Birth Ritual demo as much as much as the Singles track, mainly because the vocals have different effects in both. In the demo, they are really hard and have a cult-like fear inside them. In the other, they kind of feel like you're entering another dimension. "As you start the song, and face this garden" Has more of an epic feeling in the non-demo track. In the demo it sounds more anger-filled... kind of drawing away from its impact, in my opinion. As far as Fell on Black Days and its demo... they may be entirely different songs... but it's still interesting to compare them, because they do have a common focus - dealing with tragedy. In the demo, Soundgarden just describes the situation and the entire vibe is angry and vengeful. Whereas in the album version, the song is less about vengence... and more about despair about not being able to prevent bad things from happening. To me, the album track is much more effective, and more intelligent. Nonetheless, I love both and it would have been really cool to have both on the album. Later, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 14:09:52 EST From: Anthony Pulitano Subject: Re: survey TBraves93@AOL.COM writes: >I am doing a survey for school about the BEST SOUNDGARDEN SONG EVER. >So please >respond with your answer to the best soundgarden song ever. thanks alot Ok, i understand your curiosity, but just let me say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to say that any of their songs is the BEST. ..and i'm sure some of you can back me up. you can have a favorite, but you cant say that its the best ever ./dead sailor\.. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 16:01:32 EST From: Catherine Veit Subject: Re: survey beyond the wheel/slaves and bulldozers.... -cats4kim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 20:48:35 EST From: Charlie Mccutcheon Subject: Re: SERVEY BEST ROCK: spoonman METAL: gun FUNK(kinda): little joe FOLK/COUNTRY: rusty cage POP: black hole sun ACCOUSTIC: zero chance PUNK/HARDCORE: ty cobb NOTE: these songs may not sound how i have them listed but, this is how i think of them. so sorry to categorize. charlie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:02:04 EST From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: SOMMS Digest - 6 Feb 1998 to 7 Feb 1998 In a message dated 2/7/98 7:02:09 AM, you wrote: <> Yah, I have. When I used to listen to DOTUS I'd hit the repeat button and listen to it over and over again. Everything about the song is awesome, from the lyrics, to the music. Its probably my favorite SG song, though my favorites usually change depending on how I feel. <> I used to wonder what the lyrics were about myself. I never got the impression that it was a recap of their career. Though you do make some interesting points. (I'm surprised I never connected the black and burning sun, though I think its just a coincedence) I always got the impression that Chris was talking about something painful that happoned to him. "I lost my grip Fell to far to start again" And his hope that something better will come along later. Though even that will end. And he hopes that he'll like it why it lasts. "And I hope it's a sweet ride Here for me tonight Because I feel I'm going Feel I'm slowing down" I was kind of surprised that it wasn't released as a single. I heard the DJ play it inbetween bands at a concert once. It was kind of weird, because it was a punk concert. and I kept hearing them play singles, and some other punk bands and then it came on. After that I was pretty sure that it would. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:03:56 EST From: Lance Huber Subject: Re: survey In a message dated 98-02-07 13:22:54 EST, TBraves93@AOL.COM writes: << answer to the best soundgarden song ever. >> My vote would go for either: Searching With My Good Eye Closed Loud Love or Hands All Over Lance ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 18:17:21 -0800 From: Jordan Snodgrass Subject: MP3s Those of you using the MP3 format to distribute Soundgarden and other bands' songs should go to http://www.mp3bench.com/ -- bye bye -js mailto:jordans@ucsd.edu http://sdcc10.ucsd.edu/~jasnodgr/fm/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:54:29 EST From: Maria Joseph Subject: Searchin With My Bad Eye Open Hey you lovely peeps! I haven't done this thing in awhile, so since something a little interesting happened I guess I'll talk to you that wanna listen, just for a, hopefully, brief moment. Okay, I finally got Motorvision. YAY!!! It, as expected, kicked ass. I loved the craziness in the van and I also loved the onstage performances and what the associates had to say about Seattle bands and Soundgarden. My favorite performance was Mind Riot. I really liked that sound of it. It was like mid- way, like definitely not acoustic, but not the normal electrified sound.. Out of all the band members' performance onstage, the one that I really really REALLY loved the most was (you guys are probably thinkin of his name... :) ) BEN! He was sooo amazing onstage. He was playing his bass practically down to the floor and he was all over the place. His body movements were great too. He reminded me of a dangerous creature that moved around in his spot and he made faces and as long as you didn't mess with him he wouldn't bite your head off.. I really loved that. Kim was neat onstage. He does fit that description of him meditating with his guitar, ocassionally moving around or boppin' his lovely head. I loved all their jumps in the beginning. Chris was kewl. I liked the thing he did with his hair. It wasn't headbangin but he can make an "8" with his hair when he throws it with his head. I thought that was different and stellar. I liked that part were he let that dude play his guitar. And the scenes of him surfing in the crowd. I have never really really heard Matt sing and actually knew that it was him. So this was a treat for me. Mind riot was great and was even better with the addition of Matt's backing vocals. And I actually saw him drum the Jesus Christ Pose part so that was intriguing. It was an amazing thing. I just sit their and thinkin about all the cramps he might get at the end of a show. And when I imaging him using both feet for the bass drum and hi-hat, I am so amazed that it's really inspiring. That's my goal. Anyways, I finally found Ultramega OK. It was really weird that I wasn't able to find it at the little rarity music store I go to, but I found it but was about $4 short. So my lovely friend paid for the rest of it and I thank her so much. I haven't listened to it yet, but I will. Oh, back to the Motorvision thing. Like I said before, I really really liked all that crazy stuff in the van and I was thinkin how fuckin cool that would be if they took all the footage from the van and from the associate interviews and made this tape, like "Motorways" or "In the Van" or something like that... I know those are shit names but I was just givin examples. Oh yeah, also at the mall tonight, my friend and I went to this book store and found this book about baby names so we went and read it. I can't remember all the ones we looked up but I do remember these: Kim - bold Susan - lily April - open (something about opening something) Matt - gift of God I thought the meaning of Matt's name was kinda coincidental to what we refer him to. Cause we call him God's Drummer and his name means gift of God, so that's stellar...and makes sense. Cameron as a first name means crooked nose..well, maybe the meaning is different if it's a last name. I looked up Chris and Ben but I don't remember what they mean.. I know that they have good meanings or a strong meaning like for Ben's name.. but I guess that was just a small tidbit for you all. Ok, this has been longer than I hoped. I don't see why I even try to make these things short.. Alrighty, see-ya! - Maria P.S. I accidentally typed in Matt instead of Maria... there's so much on my mind :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 23:42:45 -0330 From: Marc Hollett Subject: Louder Than Live? Anyone know what louder than live is like? Compared to Motorvision? -- Marc Hollett mhollett@mindless.com http://marcsite.home.ml.org ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 7 Feb 1998 to 8 Feb 1998 **********************************************