Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:00:03 -0500 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 12 Jan 1998 to 13 Jan 1998 There are 14 messages totalling 378 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. take me to your leader 2. Donuts 3. Chris Bashing (tsk, tsk) 4. a question (2) 5. SOMMS 6. Cornell and Co (3) 7. sunshower 8. New Update On Matt Being SP's Drummer!!!! 9. Chris Bashing (tsk, tsk), and new Hater... 10. so will C & E spin records or what? (2) To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:46:36 EST From: RedThinker Subject: take me to your leader In a message dated 1/12/98 2:00:44 AM EST, you write: > Why did you wait for Seth to say he didn't like it before you guys > commenced the criticizing? Does he grant one the right to state one's > dislike for it or something? I'm going to say that Sunshower is the > greatest song ever written just to spite all of you hosers. > in case you didn't notice, little buddy, Seth's criticism of Sunshower came up around the same time the album was released, get it? That means, in case you don't follow, we all, by miracle of miracles, happened to hear and analyze (if you will) Sunshower at the same time. Oh, and don't waste your time, if you love Sunshower, good for you....I do believe in something called "opinion" and neither yours nor anyone else's spites me. Seth, was this message ok with you? ;-P ~rita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:20:56 EST From: Gardner167 Subject: Re: Donuts In a message dated 98-01-07 15:55:52 EST, Gallagwar@AOL.COM writes: << Enough of songs we want to hear Chris cover, let's talk about Soundgarden songs we want to hear other bands cover. Let's face it, there are only a few bands out there good enough to play Soundgarden's style. I would love to hear a band such as Pearl Jam or possibly a band like Metallica cover a Soundgarden song. Grunge is dead so there are few bands that are capable of making Soundgarden's massive sounds. Any suggestions of bands to play SG songs are great and suggestions for songs are even better. I would love to hear someone cover The Day I Tried To Live or My Wave or Tighter and Tighter or Room A Thousand Years Wide. It would just be great to hear another band (a respectable one though) take a crack at Soundgarden's material. >> if anyone wants to dig real deep, i know for a fact that FAITH NO MORE has covered OUTSHINED..... mike "trying though i know its wrong" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:52:36 EST From: Gallagwar Subject: Re: Chris Bashing (tsk, tsk) Finally, someone agrees with my previous posts and sees the same things that I was talking about. Good Luck Kathie, I hope they don't attack you the way they attacked me. Gallagwar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:29:49 EST From: XAnavriNX Subject: a question I got AIC's SAP and Chris Cornell is thanked in the credits and also sings along on one of the songs. I'd greatly appreciate more details, thank you. Just a few mini-comments. I usually delete the thread E-mail in the list, though some does get through to my reading eyes. 1. Please stop the flames. Flames have killed many, many lists. 2. Please stop the fantasies. I realize that living in your own private reality is fun, but you don't see the rest of us runnin around saying Kurt Cobain is alive and Soundgarden is back together. Please..... no stupid shit. Most of you people are already waay older than me(Still 16) and you still behave like little kids. If any of you want to reply to any of these, other than the request for information, please send it to this E-Mail adress, not the list. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:37:02 -0800 From: John DiPanfilo Subject: Re: SOMMS I agree. I would still like to get a copt of Somms though. The solo album will probally offer a little some thing for everyone in my opinion. I really douby it will be lame though, I hope it won't be lame. -John _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:50:00 +0100 From: Nacho Priego Subject: Cornell and Co This is gonna be one of those silly emails that some of you don't like, talking 'bout feelings and all that stuff. I got Temple of the Dog. And there is only one word to describe it: beautiful. It's like Chris' songwriting mixed with the feelings that only PJ can put in a song. I mean, SG made powerful, strange and very worked out songs, and PJ just put their feelings on a CD. So, when I first listened to Temple I realized that SG wasn't Chris Cornell. Cause, can you see SG playing "Times of trouble"? But it was wrote by Chris, and the drums (whatta drums!) played by Matt... What I mean is that a band is not just four people making music. Is much more than that. Is something between them, is a circumstance... there are too many things in a band than some of you are forgetting. Now, I feel glad that SG broke up. If the feeling is gone, the band is gone, and trying to go on with something that just don't work isn't a good idea. The same way that I love Temple, but I don't want another Temple work, because that wouldn't be the same. Maybe some of you can understand now why Chris sounds now as he sounds. I mean, he isn't a part of SG anymore. Now he is a wonderful voice, a talented artist and, the thing that I always admires on SG members: he can do many different things. He doesn't have an style. You can never know what's going on on his mind. If some of you still think that Chris shouldn't change his style, answer this question: What do you prefer, an artist or something like Oasis, the only band in the world that plagiates itself? Nacho Priego - Alive in the SpanishUnknown ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:30:30 EST From: power child Subject: sunshower i really like sunshower. i think the lyrics are really pretty and the more i hear it the more i like it. i was not that thrilled the firsttime i heard it but it has grown on me a lot. to me it stands out from the rest of the garbage on the radio. but at the same time i am disapointed. i expected much more from chris. if he wanted to make "seasons pt. 2" (although 'sunshower' is nowhere near as good as 'seasons') why on earth did they break up. dotu was experimental, some of it worked and some of it didnt, but they were trying to be different. i thought that for sure chris would try and be different - i mean 'ave maria', okay, can't get much more different than that i guess. on the other hand i bet that the smartest thing to do is release a song that the radio would love to play and they love to play sunshower, even on my crappy alternative station. i didnt see what seth said but i dont care. sunshower has a place, it is not the best song ever written, not by chris, not by anyone, but personally it has meaning to me and that is all i care about. i just hope that chris is writing music he wants to write and that he is happy with what he is doing. either i like it or i don't but he shouldnt write stuff to make soundgarden fans happy because the only thing that will make soundgarden fans happy is if they get back together. ~power child ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:30:24 -0500 From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: New Update On Matt Being SP's Drummer!!!! Go to http://www.mtv.com/news_launch.html and check out the interview with Billy Corgan. He talks about his relationship's with Manson, Hole and the new album. Now, if you haven't been living in a rock for the last 3 months you'd know that Matt Cameron said he was working with the Pumpkins, but Billy Corgan himself has said that his band (notice how I use "his") does not, I repeat, does not have a new drummer. This really leaves out Matt Cameron as being the replacement. Now, this is what I think but, it seems that Matt may help on some tracks, if not all, but he probably is too busy to actually tour with them. Hoped this brighted up your day! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:39:20 EST From: NFS F50 Subject: Re: Cornell and Co Nacho Priego wrote> >Now, I feel glad that SG broke up. If the feeling is gone, the band is gone, and trying to go on with something that just don't work isn't a good idea. > Who said Soundgarden didn't work? I thought they were doing just fine. They had a good thing going for a long time and then BANG!, gone. It really sucks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:31:35 EST From: Nahedgehog Subject: Re: Cornell and Co In a message dated 98-01-12 18:52:56 EST, NFSF50, for some reason, wrote: << Who said Soundgarden didn't work? I thought they were doing just fine. They had a good thing going for a long time and then BANG!, gone. It really sucks. >> Okay, for the people that didn't get what Nacho was saying....he meant that it wasn't working for THEM, and that's one of the factors of them breaking up.....not that they didn't work for us.....I don't know, I think their happiness and sanity comes before ours. I don't know maybe Nacho didn't mean that, but that's how I took it, especially after reading the GW article.... signing off da queen of da hedgehogz dezh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:03:21 -0500 From: Brian Kirkner Subject: Re: a question He sang on "Right Turn", and I must say that he is quite amazing on it. The first part of the song, he sings low. Then for the later, ass-kicking part, he sings in his higher vocal range. I wish he would have sung on the secret song (track #5), where they're like, "Get a fucking hair cut!" brian XAnavriNX wrote: > > I got AIC's SAP and Chris Cornell is thanked in the credits and also sings > along on one of the songs. I'd greatly appreciate more details, thank you. > Just a few mini-comments. I usually delete the thread E-mail in the list, > though some does get through to my reading eyes. 1. Please stop the flames. > Flames have killed many, many lists. 2. Please stop the fantasies. I realize > that living in your own private reality is fun, but you don't see the rest of > us runnin around saying Kurt Cobain is alive and Soundgarden is back > together. Please..... no stupid shit. Most of you people are already waay > older than me(Still 16) and you still behave like little kids. > If any of you want to reply to any of these, other than the request for > information, please send it to this E-Mail adress, not the list. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:35:57 EST From: ThNrthFace Subject: Re: Chris Bashing (tsk, tsk), and new Hater... In a message dated 98-01-11 23:47:25 EST, oponfam@iols.net writes: << So it seems to me, if you don't like DOTU, and you don't like Sunshower, chances are you probably won't like his solo album much either. I could be wrong; I guess we'll see. >> Thank you Kathy, I was about to say this myself but you did it for me although I don't have the same viewpoint as you do. As far as I'm concerned, right now after DOTU and Sunshower/Ave Maria, I'm not too thrilled at what is on the horizon, and it's hard to keep an open mind, but we *will* see... Now Hater does have about 11 songs recorded in the studio, but they've seen to have dropped off the face of the earth... ***SO MATT AND BEN***, get off your ASSES and release it!!!! From the songs I've heard on the studio pressing, the new stuff is beyond GREAT. I can't quadruple-underline the word great, but just imagine it's there. Even if Hater has broken up (who really knows is a damn good question in and of itself.), I think they are doing a great disservice to humanity by not releasing their works. Pretty much anyone who's seen Hater since that fateful Halloween show in '96 will agree (the one's not TOO busy fighting off the assholes aplenty). In my opinion, it's as great a crime to withold the new Hater as it is to keep an unknown Picasso locked up in your basement hidden under a pile of blankets. With Hater I could at least see a reason to want to go on to other things. I feel the same about WWC but not quite as strongly. We can only *hope* to see... The hated and beloved List Thug, Aaron "Wish on for meeeeeeeeeeeee"-Hater ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:05:00 EST From: Lilricky81 Subject: so will C & E spin records or what? we're gettin' closer and closer to the 31st...... so has it been confirmed... is there going to be a self pollution radio #2? if anyone has updated info regarding this joyous event, please tell the list... thanx!! -cats4kim go see GOOD WILL HUNTING guys & dolls, it's excellent!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 01:23:17 -0500 From: "Michelle A. Leco" Subject: Re: so will C & E spin records or what? After Seth had first made the post about this, I had actually e-mail my local alt-rock radio station to MAKE SURE they knew. They never replied to me. (The damn bastards.) But just the other day one of the djs mentioned it on the air. Of course he didn't say if they would be airing it. (They probably won't since they suck.) But since it was 'announced', I think it is official. I hope that one of you SOMMSters out there who will have to opportunity to hear it will record it for those who won't! (hint, hint ;-b) -----Original Message----- From: Lilricky81 To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Monday, January 12, 1998 10:16 PM Subject: so will C & E spin records or what? >we're gettin' closer and closer to the 31st...... so has it been confirmed... >is there going to be a self pollution radio #2? if anyone has updated info >regarding this joyous event, please tell the list... thanx!! > >-cats4kim go see GOOD WILL HUNTING guys & dolls, it's excellent!! > ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 12 Jan 1998 to 13 Jan 1998 ************************************************