Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:01:02 -0500 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 8 Jan 1998 to 9 Jan 1998 There are 35 messages totalling 1015 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Remembering the First Time (4) 2. SOMMS!!! (3) 3. soundgardelicious ;o)~ 4. Definitely 5. Oh Sherry....*gag* (3) 6. *gag* & a springtime fresh BMF 7. Sunshower???? (5) 8. summer blah 9. Sunshower & First Time I heard SG 10. Remembering the First Time and Trading News 11. The First Time 12. Smile. It confuses people. 13. Soundgarden News!!! (3) 14. Sunshower and the Solo Chris 15. im lost!!!!! and someone got an extra SOMMS to sell? 16. Dark as Roses, etc. etc. etc. 17. CC Radio News 18. SOLO NEWS 19. Remembering The First Time 20. cornell vs. perry 21. My first SG experience 22. First time I've heard.....er...Sunshower? To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 02:28:01 -0500 From: jenny grover Subject: Remembering the First Time Oh lord. The first SG song I heard was Get On the Snake (I saw the vid clip from LTL on Bombshelter Videos) and I didn't like it (I'm still not fond of it). In fact I laughed and made fun of it (highly influenced by Jason and Chris's hair and headbanging antics). I thought they were another silly metal band. In light of my current and later feelings for the band, my husband has never let me live it down. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 03:06:06 EST From: LoudLoveCC Subject: Re: SOMMS!!! In a message dated 12/20/97 10:36:13 PM, antonia wrote: <> this is so pointless and I apologize, but god almighty!!! how come everyone seems to have paid so little for their copy of SOMMS... when I searched for one like a lunatic for ever, and when one was made available, I paid $60.00 for it. am I psychotic or something? did anyone else pay that kind of money, or am I the lone brain dead Soundgarden fan? (don't answer that peanut gallery!) just curious... "Remember I love you, love you" love, lissa =) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 03:43:12 EST From: LoudLoveCC Subject: Re: soundgardelicious ;o)~ In a message dated 1/6/98 7:27:26 AM, I, the moron who thinks she's an english major, wrote: <> the word in red is supposed to read SOUNDGARDEN. I kill myself sometimes... sorry for the inconvenience.... "Remember I love you, love you" love, lissa =) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:37:12 +0000 From: Fiona Thiessen Subject: Definitely ThNrthFace wrote: > review of Sunshower was about as accurate as they come. Same with Ave Maria, > good god, I think that song could definately cause some severe mental > disorders if listened to. you mean, "cause some *more* severe mental disorders" yeah? ;-) -- Fiona (apologising for the one liner) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 07:56:05 EST From: KAISERVRBL Subject: Re: Oh Sherry....*gag* In a message dated 98-01-07 18:17:03 EST, saperl@INJERSEY.COM writes: << Both "Sunshower" and "Ave Maria" were huge disappointments in that the originality and emotion that marked the Soundgarden (and Cornell) work of yore is completely lacking. "Sunshower" really is just a rock ballad -- not at all the stunning, imaginative songs that "Seasons" and the acoustic version of "Like Suicide" are -- and I'd take a classical soprano's version of "Ave Maria" over Cornell's forced rendition any day. He just sounds like he's trying too hard these days, >> I'd have to agree. Although the song is pretty and well arranged, Chris is definately not breaking any new ground. His lyrics are not even up to his usual poetic standards. I like the song, but I have to admit my initial reaction has been kind of "ho-hum". In fact I can kind of sum up my fears about Chris' two recent solo efforts with only two words: "Van Halen" If that doesn't frighten you about his musical future, nothing will. I mean daugther's mother even said "it's not really the most original thing he's ever done". I'd have to agree with both her & Seth. Let's keep our fingers crossed that the solo album is more of the old Chris and less of this "Sting" direction he has been taking. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:00:02 EST From: KAISERVRBL Subject: Re: *gag* & a springtime fresh BMF In a message dated 98-01-07 21:38:59 EST, ThNrthFace@aol.com writes: << If the feeling and emotion isn't there, maybe it's time for something else... >> Sad but true. Please don't let him turn into Peter Frampton. lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:16:15 -0500 From: Jamesetta Simpson Subject: Re: SOMMS!!! > this is so pointless and I apologize, but god almighty!!! how come everyone > seems to have paid so little for their copy of SOMMS... when I searched for > one like a lunatic for ever, and when one was made available, I paid $60.00 > for it. am I psychotic or something? did anyone else pay that kind of money, > or am I the lone brain dead Soundgarden fan? (don't answer that peanut > gallery!) > love, lissa =) If you are not and I repeat not from the Seattle area (or countries outside the US) you should be able to purchase SOMMs for around $10 or so. SOMMs is not a big collectable in the world of music only because it is not on vinyl and Soundgarden has not obtained the same status as groups like Led Zep, Beatles, and Rolling Stones. It is only over priced when you have a dealer who knows he has fans who will pay the big $$$.. The big money in Soundgarden is still with their vinyls, this should change in 10 years or so when we have a nostalgic reemergence of the so called Seattle sound. I was at a record show last weekend and one of the dealers told me he wouldn't even consider Soundgarden music yet - they weren't worth the effort!! But yet I found at the next table a signed copy of Louder than Love and the boot copy of Louder than Live (I will find the blue vinyl copy someday) and put out $80 for the two vinyl's. I really feel for Soundgarden fans that get hit for overpriced Soundgarden stuff. It's hard to see something you want so bad and the price is so high. So Lissa, don't feel bad you are not the lone brain dead Soundgarden fan, there are more than a few of us out here.... Jamie (SOMMs Mom) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:27:50 -0500 From: Jamesetta Simpson Subject: Sunshower???? People, people, people, don't you think you are jumping to conclusions on the future style of Mr. Cornell!!! "Sunshower" was written for a movie - A LOVE STORE... I don't think he would write a hard hitting rock type song for a love store. I like "Sunshower" because it is Chris and it is something new from him. Yes it sounds like "Seasons" and yes it could be better. Let try not to condemn him before he even gets a new CD out. Jamie (SOMMs Mom) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:36:10 -0600 From: Tom Gipson Subject: Re: Oh Sherry....*gag* Sunshower is a well-written song. And Chris Cornell wrote it, so that's how he wanted it to sound and stuff. I think a lot of people like(d) it, just because it's new Cornell. I love the sound, and the lyrics as they are highly inspirational and beautiful. And in my book, that makes it ok. As for Ave Maria, haven't heard it yet, but I'd imagine it sucks. I can just picture Chris singing it *shudder*. The first Soundgarden song I ever heard was "Black Hole Sun". I thought it was a great song. It wasn't 'till DOTU came out that I became a fan. then I bought Screaming life, and liked it ok. But the best purchase I ever made was BMF. I got it in a pawn shop for $4. it skips toward the end of "slaves & bulldozers" (When Chris is screaming his head off), and has the back cover of a Weezer cd. I didn't notice this 'till I got home. oh well. Rock on. Tom "Full on Joe's Mom..." hehehe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:20:54 -0500 From: Jamesetta Simpson Subject: Re: Sunshower???? > People, people, people, don't you think you are jumping to conclusions on > the future style of Mr. Cornell!!! "Sunshower" was written for a movie - A > LOVE STORE... I don't think he would write a hard hitting rock type song > for a love store. I like "Sunshower" because it is Chris and it is > something new from him. Yes it sounds like "Seasons" and yes it could be > better. Let try not to condemn him before he even gets a new CD out. I think I meant story! It's too early in the morning. Jamie (SOMMs Mom) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:48:00 +0100 From: Pablo Campoy Subject: Re: Remembering the First Time The first SG's song I ever heard was "Rusty Cage", and the second "Outshined", and the third "Slaves and Bulldozers",... It was 1993 (I know, too late...) By then I didn't know SG except for the excellent reviews they received in Popular 1 Magazine (a rock magazine from Barcelona). Popu gave BMF 5 points over 5 possible and it talked extremely well about their previous albums. Until 1992 underground groups like them had no repercussion in the Spanish media. Nirvana opened the market and changed the music tastes of many people (my favourite band til then was The Police, really hard...). I went to a music store and asked the clerk for SG. She told me that they sounded like Pearl Jam ("They're from Sitel too", she said"). "Great!". I bought BMF and put it in my stereo once I was home. I didn't like it at all the first time. I wasn't prepared for that. But, unlikely other discs, I listened to it some more times again. It's become my favourite LP. I have listened to any of SG's albums since 4 years ago and I still enjoy them. I 'm not lying if I say that more and more every day because there's no other group to make me forget them. (I love Screaming Trees too but it seems that nobody knows them here in Barcelona). Pablo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:04:37 EST From: RedThinker Subject: summer blah You know people, I liked Ave Maria :-P Maybe I just don't know anything about how that song is *supposed* to sound, but when I heard it, I got goosebumps, call me a middle class fool ;-) You know people, I hate Sunshower. I'm sorry, but I just don't like it. It's not that I have this terrible fear that Chris is going all sappy on us just because it's a "ballad". Some of the slower songs from TOTD are the finest things I have ever heard...but this Sunshower business...eww. It does sound like he's trying to hard to distance himself from god knows what. It makes me wonder, what does Chris want? I can't help thinking about what the chief of A&M said in Rolling Stone after the break up...Chris is poised for superstar status and all that kept him back before was that he was in a "metal band". Sunshower can't help but make me wonder if that's what he is aiming for. If that is what he wants, fine....it'd be awfully selfish of me to want him to do something that he doesn't want to do for my listenting pleasure. But if this music with zero passion and lots of fluff is what he *truly* believes in, talk about a fucking let down......Chris baby, we hardly knew ya.... ~rita ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:57:26 -0800 From: "S. Kutz" Subject: Re: Sunshower???? I'm thinking, "how can anyone predict what chris' new stuff is gonna sound like by TWO SONGS? one of which is a remake of an XMAS SONG??" Give me a break! what kind of data and support do you have with one song that just HAPPENS TO BE SLOWER AND MORE SOLEMN THAN HIS PREVIOUS STUFF?? I mean, come on, I'll start making conclusions when the next two singles are in the same vein. sarah =) On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: > People, people, people, don't you think you are jumping to conclusions on > the future style of Mr. Cornell!!! "Sunshower" was written for a movie - A > LOVE STORE... I don't think he would write a hard hitting rock type song > for a love store. I like "Sunshower" because it is Chris and it is > something new from him. Yes it sounds like "Seasons" and yes it could be > better. Let try not to condemn him before he even gets a new CD out. > > Jamie > (SOMMs Mom) > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:39:16 EST From: Gallagwar Subject: Re: Oh Sherry....*gag* I love the acoustic Cornell as much as I love the metal Cornell. I feel the acoustic play is what he wanted. If the reason that Soundgarden broke up was because he wanted to pursue a solo career, then he would have chosen acoustic because it exhibits his voice better, isn't that why he wanted a solo career, to prove he wasn't just a guy singing for a rock band, to prove he was the world's best singer. But the truth is, the terrible play of Eleven rob his solo songs of quality. They are a talentless group of nobodies. If Chris wanted a backround band, he should have done what Jerry Cantrell did and ask a bunch of different guys to play back up to him on different songs, more established guys. I will be very disappointed if Eleven tours with Chris (if he tours). I'll still go to the concerts though. Like Suicide and Seasons are definitely better than Sunshower but the reason is because on Seasons, he was the only person in the song. On Like Suicide, Matt was just providing the drum beat. Gallagwar, "And I hope it's a sweet ride... Sleep tight for me, I'm gone." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:52:23 EST From: Gallagwar Subject: Re: Remembering the First Time Louder Than Love was given to me for my eighth birthday in 1989, so I guess the first Soundgarden song I ever heard was Ugly Truth. Gallagwar ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:17:49 -0500 From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: Sunshower & First Time I heard SG OK. First things first, don't bash Sunshower too much. Soundgarden and Chris Cornell have wrote WAY worse songs then that. So, just acknowledge it as not SG, which is probably what Chris wanted us to here. So just accept is as a slight change. When we see his new solo album, which I feel will be way overhyped by A&M (but that's another story :-} ), then we can bash him, because that is the route he is taking in his career. And if we don't like that, then shoot, fire, kill away. But you just might be surprised in the future. Next of, I remember a thread talking about weirdest place your heard SG. Any see that Rosie O'Donnell clip when she's talking with Steve & Eddy, who did a cover of BHS, and their talking about "a group called Soundgarden" and Rosie plays a clip of BHS to compare to the "new- version-an-old-person-can-listen-to-and-not-call-Soundgarden-satanic-music. Well, I just wanna say that I don't watch Rosie, my mom called me in. So there. And the first time I heard SG? Pretty Noose on Muchmusic. 30 or so CD's later, I'm Kitchener-Waterloo's biggest SG fan. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:56:47 +0100 From: sabrina Subject: Re: Sunshower???? At 09:57 08/01/98 -0800, Sarah wrote: >I'm thinking, "how can anyone predict what chris' new stuff is gonna sound >like by TWO SONGS? one of which is a remake of an XMAS SONG??" Give me a >break! what kind of data and support do you have with one song that just >HAPPENS TO BE SLOWER AND MORE SOLEMN THAN HIS PREVIOUS STUFF?? I mean, >come on, I'll start making conclusions when the next two singles are in >the same vein. And I'm thinking.... did any of you actually *read* the posts? Who on earth ever predicted what Mr Cornell's new stuff was going to sound like? The only thing we've been saying is that if he continues doing what he did with the last two songs, most of us won't be too thrilled. And the song being slow or more solemn isn't the problem. There are enough slow SG songs and let's not forget the ever so popular Flutter Girl or Nowhere But You. The thing that bothers me the most about Chris' last 2 efforts (and I'll say it again) is that he sounds like he's forcing some sort of emotion on the songs, and it isn't working. It's like watching people try to act in a bad soap opera. The raw emotion that came from his voice once upon a time, making chills run down my back, is now missing from both Ave Maria and Sunshower.... and that's what saddens me. If his heart isn't in it, mine can't be either. sabrina ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:01:18 -0800 From: John DiPanfilo Subject: Re: Sunshower???? I have only heard the short sound clip of "Sunshower" that was sent to all of us on somms, so I can't add my opinion of the whole song. The part I heard I like but that was all of 15-30 seconds. I am kind of seeing this trend in not dislike but disapointment in Chris Cornells songs ever since he workd with Eleven. I personally think that is because Eleven is not a Chris Cornell style band. I don't have a clear picture on what is but if we heard it we'd know it. "Ave Maria" was a beautiful song until the end when it got to be a little much, but only a little.:) -John _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:35:03 -0500 From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: Remembering the First Time and Trading News Hey List! Couple things... First time i ever heard SG was watching the video for "Loud Love" on Headbanger's Ball. Ya'think radio was playing Seattle bands in 1989? Not a chance. The video was cool in a beavis and butthead kind of way and I thought the song was just okay. It took a glowing recommendation from Robert Plant in some magazine to get me to buy the CD. I initially thought they were Cult/Sabbath skatepunks :) But damn could that 'guy' really sing :) At 8 years old...i think i was listening to Mickey Mouse records...or were those the Chipmunks? Most likely it was Fleetwood Mac, Billy Joel, Elton John or that one gloved guy and whatever else was on the radio at the time. Come to think of it...i don't think i was really listening to radio at 8...i think i was outside playing with my friends or hanging with my babysitter, the television :) some trading news... If you've ever done any tape/vid trading in your life with someone you don't know. Or if you are in the trading circles. You really need to read this. http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/9532.html Those government moron's are going after bootleg "traders" now. Actually It's the RIAA and some of what they say makes sense. They are going after some of the right people who sell bootlegs. But when they start swinging...watch out. So be careful if you're trading. You should know the new rules... s. - "it's just a shot away" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:36:57 EST From: Thrahkazog Subject: Remembering the First Time First time I heard SG was forced on me.. i was a self-admitted country music fan for about at least a decade.. my friend made fun of me for it constantly and tried to make me listen to their metal and other such things.. i always laughed at them and mocked bad haircuts and lack of talent up until they made me listen to Spoonman.. i still don't listen to metal.. i listen mostly to punk now, but i guess since SG was the first band i really liked that wasn't country i got hooked on them pretty bad and bought up as much stuff of theirs as i could. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:21:16 EST From: Jeffi29 Subject: The First Time Here's my first soundgarden story...I had a lot of friends who were basically obsessed with soundgarden, their freaky time signatures, Chris's voice, Matt's drumming, Kim's shredding...etc...I basically shrugged it off, until one day when all of us were at Tower records, and Mike (the biggest SG fan of all) told me to buy Superunknown, so I had nothing else to buy, so what the hell....I bought it....I get home, and of course, I hear, let me drown, my wave etc.. and to be really honest, I didn't really like it, I thought it was to unusual for me, so I put away, and probably forever. Until one day, Mike came up to me and said "do you like that CD?" I was like "not really" and he was shocked "not like soundgarden?" yeah, I know stunning isnt it? so I was wondering about it, and I picked it up again, popped it in, and I haven't been able to put them down, this was two years ago, now I have all their cd's and am proud to call myself a huge fan. So my first experience w/ soundgarden was bad, but the second was damn good.. -Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:34:45 -0600 From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Smile. It confuses people. I originally sent the following to the list on 3/13/97. The present shows that people are worried about Chris's solo efforts, Kim not picking up a guitar, and Matt having a liaison with an already established band. I send this again in hopes that it has the same effect it did the first time. :) May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ____________________________________________________________________________ ____From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Maestro! (To the theme of "The Flintstones.") Soundgarden Meet the Soundgarden They're the modern rock-age family From the town of Seattle They're an act out of the grunge-rock scene Someday maybe Shroom will win the fight And she'll have Chris Cornell for just one night Soundgarden Meet the Soundgarden You'll have a Chris & Kim time, a Matt & Ben time You'll have a gay ol' time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just a little something to put a smile on everyone's face. :) May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:31:07 -0500 From: Ben Jones Subject: Soundgarden News!!! Don't shoot me if someone has already mentioned this, but in Guitar World's latest issue (a preview of 1998) they have a 4-page interview with Kim on the breakup. I don't have the mag with me right now so no transcription, sorry. But here are a few interesting things of note: 1) Kim has not picked up the guitar at all and he says may drop music as a career entirely :( 2) The four of them are still great friends and they still do stuff together 3) There will be additional SG releases through the year 2000 4) Kim hasn't entirely ruled out the possibility of a reunion. Apparently, if they feel the desire to create music in the vein of SG again, they would get back together :) 5) Just as we thought, there was no 'internal turmoil' or whatever behind the break-up, They just wanted to follow different paths That's all I can remember for now. Have a nice day! Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:08:18 -0500 From: "Michelle A. Leco" Subject: Re: Sunshower and the Solo Chris >People, people, people, don't you think you are jumping to conclusions on >the future style of Mr. Cornell!!! "Sunshower" was written for a movie - A >LOVE STORE... I don't think he would write a hard hitting rock type song >for a love store. I like "Sunshower" because it is Chris and it is >something new from him. Yes it sounds like "Seasons" and yes it could be >better. Let try not to condemn him before he even gets a new CD out. > >Jamie >(SOMMs Mom) > I think that Jamie made a good point here that a lot of people are forgetting. It's not like the artists have a lot of creative freedom. They are writing music to fit into a segment of the story. So basically the lyrics and the music style is based upon that. So what's left for the musician to do? Frankly, I'm surprised that he would actually want to write for a movie. Sure there was Seasons, but that was kind of different. Anyway, that's a whole other story... But hey, I really liked Sunshower. I think it was interesting to hear something different from the SG sound. Although I do hope that his solo album will include some harder stuff. I'd like to hear C.C. do all types of genres of music. He's certainly got the talent to pull it off. And about Ave Maria. Remember. He didn't write the song goddamn it! He just sung it. And considering that I had always imagined some operatic soprano voice singing it (and I think a lot of people had this stereotype), I think it was interesting that Chris decided to take it on. And he said that he wanted to do a 'classic' x-mas song. I think that he put a new twist on Ave Maria and I think that he did it well. Aside from that, the album was for charity...a far more nobler cause than hollywood. And it makes me respect him even more as a person. Another thing that you guys are forgetting is that this can't be easy for Chris. Imagine being in a band for 12 years, being successful and earning a lot of respect. And then suddenly you have a solo career. Whether the band broke up in part because of the desire for solo or not, it can't be an easy adjustment. And as I recall from the interviews shortly before the breakup, no one saw it coming. Apparently not even Mr. Cornell. He was talking about their future plans! So remember this is something new for him. He may be struggling, and it may take him some time to find his solo style. And he's probably experimenting with a lot of styles that he didn't have the opportunity to do in the past. So be patient. He'll find his way. And in the meantime, we'll probably get to hear a lot of different stuff from him. Some of it we'll hate, but some we'll love. And I think that makes it worth the wait. Anyway, enough from me. Just remember to not get too excited about all of this crap. You guys are jumpin the gun! Relax. Put your favorite SG album and relax! Michelle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:49:26 PST From: Jill Loves Soundgarden way too much but hey im kewl Subject: im lost!!!!! and someone got an extra SOMMS to sell? high! okay i knoe this sounds absolutly retarded but hey...i got me alive in the superunknown..and i cant find anything in the actual superunknown....i knoe therea game 2 vids and the spinning badmotorfinger wheel....but where are they?!?!?!?!?!?!? mabey im just dumb! anyways i was wondering if someone had an extra copy of SOMMS or if someone could get it for me! i dont want to pay 57$ or anything.... u knoe mabey 10$ or something....and thats more for me cause the canadian exchange rate SUX! I think i am now officially the only person thats never heared Sunshower!!! *crying* i love the solo stuff Chris makes and i really want to hear it!!! and i cant afford Great Expectations!!! I think ill phone tha radio station and bitch....well im sorry ive wasted ur time but PLEASE HELP!!!!!! love rage harmony war Jill ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:07:56 -0800 From: "S. Kutz" Subject: Re: Soundgarden News!!! > > 2) The four of them are still great friends and they still do stuff > together > just curious, but does that mean that they broke up because they felt they no longer had a muscial click with one another? that they lost their creative vibe with each other? i'm thinking of the REM thing, y'know how the drummer just didn't feel like he had any left in him. i'm wondering if that's what went down with our soundgarden friends. but then i'm remembering some sort of rumor or something about how they were on bad terms with one another, how they only met to discuss the break up separately, etc etc. is this a load of BS? anyway, see ya sarah =) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:20:27 -0600 From: William Flanders Subject: Dark as Roses, etc. etc. etc. I finally got the chance to listen to Sunshower in its entirety.... To me this song is an acoustic version of a Temple of the Dog song... or atleast in the same style. I don't know if this comparison has been made, but vocally it is very similar. Instrumentally it sounds like melodic experimentation in Superunknown. It is an important part of the Cornell portfolio to me because it shows that he's interested in broadening his writing from the jester-like zest of the earliest Soundgarden music, and from the brooding, heavy, depressing (and of course incredible) songs of the latest from Soundgarden. It may be the first hopeful song he's written. It doesn't have anything that will affect you like "the naked floor is cold as hell" in Seasons; it is much more impotent. But still, it allows him to experiment with different types of writing which is why he's releasing it on a soundtrack rather than on a full-fledged album. The same goes for Ave Maria. I have had the blessing, like many of you, to hear the Superunknown demo recordings. I'd hasten to say that many Superunknown fans would be in shock about the stylistic diversity of what Cornell writes. In fact, I'd say that the average Superunknown fan would hate "Black Cat" and "Missing" because they sound so out of place in today's music. And yet Superunknown is a remarkable album. Cornell's most recent endeavors have been wildly experimental, and somewhat out of character. But I'm absolutely sure his experimentation will yield an incredible solo album, that won't be a rehashing of Badmotorfinger, which I know some of you would want, but a fresher, innovative set that I know will contain some classics. Remember that this is the songwriter who brought us "Hunger Strike", possibly a perfect representation of Seattle's unique contribution to music. Have some faith in him that he'll come through with material the fans will enjoy. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:37:17 EST From: Freedotcom Subject: CC Radio News Just this morning i heard a soundgarden song, how stupid of me to forget wich one, but i heard the radio dude say Chris Cornell was just doing some finishing touches to his solo album. When i heard this i was all YAY!!!!! I never thought it was true that he would really do it. The radio guy said that it will be comming out this summer of course most of you know that but i cant wait till it does WOOHOO!! Stuppid me i dont even know what station it was playing on. Jenna :o) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:02:46 EST From: Remy2Rogue Subject: Re: Soundgarden News!!! I feel they broke up because Chris Cornell: 1) his voice was getting strained, and 2) he wanted to go solo. And thats what i think it all boils down too. And they might have broke up to cool their heels, but i read an article in the paper the other day(it was actually about frank sinatra) it mentions that no one in hollywood/music industry/public media(etc.), has every really retired permemently..... hey always seem to come back, case in point: Michael Jordan. --grace ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:22:53 -0600 From: Susan Olsheskie Subject: SOLO NEWS Hey everyone, I was listening to Stern this morning(Screw SNL for dumping Norm!) and during the breaks the station has little news bits and to my surprise they started off with saying that The Pumpkins were off to record a new album and that Matt Cameron was going to be recording with them, BUT they stated that that does not necessarily confirm he will become a Pumpkin. I guess that still leaves us guessing (and praying!!!) They also said Chris is working on the solo album which is due out in a few months and that Ben is still playing in various capacities. They finished with the statement that Kim is on "hiatus". Don't know how much info that gave us but I was really shocked to see that they actually still gave a damn about all of them! I also read a really bad article in my daily paper about the numerous "greatest hits" collections out lately. They had about 10 different ones and a small comment on each. A-Sides was one and they bashed it of course saying that there wasn't really a need for it because there are still so many Led Zepplin compliations available, basically saying why bother, just buy Zep! They said it was a howling remake of Zep and that we heard it all before- (my, my but oh how fresh it was a few years back, they were so innovative!!!!) Pretty soon I am going to just close my eyes and give up on reading press related articles for a while, Im sure it will only get worse when Chris' solo work comes out. But get this, they also pretty much frowned on the Cure, John Melloncamp, the Police, Leonard Cohen, but about the only one they praised was JOAN JETT!!!!!!! They even started out by saying Courtney was a rip off and she was the original riot girl, they must have gotten food poisioining in Seattle or something!!! LATER, SUSAN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:30:57 EST From: SubPop77 Subject: Re: SOMMS!!! In a message dated 98-01-08 03:14:24 EST, you write: << I paid $60.00 for it. am I psychotic or something? did anyone else pay that kind of money, or am I the lone brain dead Soundgarden fan? >> I also paid $60 for SOMMS, it was more expensive than my Screaming Life on vinyl. Oh, well i didnt pay for it, my mom did, it was an X-mas gift, but she told me it was 60. -Nick "If you were mine to give I might throw it away" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:40:23 EST From: SubPop77 Subject: Remembering The First Time The First time I ever heard Soundgarden, was my friend has Superunknown when it first came out in 5th grade, he was like here check this out and he played 4th Of July, at the time i listened to mostly stuff my dad did (Hendrix, Zep, Grateful Dead), I loved it, I got that CD, and now I am in 9th grade, with 12 SG CD, a vinyl, and a video. Even though stuff off of Superunknown was my first, my favs are BMF, LTL, and SL/FOPP. -Nick "If you were mine to give I might throw it away" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:23:01 -0500 From: Leslie Campbell Subject: cornell vs. perry Hello all, I never thought I'd ever see the day when Chris was being compared to Steve Perry, and someone dared to agree...and our fearless leader no less! Okay okay, Sunshower is not Chris's finest work by far, and nowhere near the level of Seasons or Like Suicide, but is Sunshower really in the same league with beady-eyed easy listening god Steve "Stone in Love" Perry?! Granted, the music is nothing terribly original, but it is very pretty, and the lyrics are far beyond the level of "Oh Sherry"...there's just no basis for comparison. And as for Ave Maria...yeah, the keyboards are extremely cheesy ...but I think Chris's voice is absolutely stunning, as always. It's one of the few X-mas songs I actually enjoy (along with "Merry Christmas Baby, I Don't Wanna Fight Tonight"). Oh well...I'm just a simple woman I suppose. Comparing Chris to any cheesy eighties crooner is some repugnant shit, man. Naked and cold, mumbling and crying, knowing everything's been discovered, Leslie P.S. Iggy Pop's "Success" on the G.E. S/T is awesome as well... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:48:38 -0500 From: "Michelle A. Leco" Subject: My first SG experience The first time I heard SG (that I remember) was when I was traveling around Europe. Whilst doing a shit load of driving through France, I heard Black Hole Sun on the radio countless times. They really played it to death. But it was really cool. Yes, I was a latecomer to discover the band. I really wish that I knew of them sooner. I prefer their earlier music. BMF is my favorite. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:54:59 EST From: Nahedgehog Subject: First time I've heard.....er...Sunshower? Hello Sommspeoples and Sommsmoms..... Okay, first time I heard them was in Singles.....loved Birth Ritual and Seasons...(even tho I thought Chris was some old dood for about 2 years....oops...*blush*). I got it for Xmas when I was young, when the soundtrack came out.....Okay I don't have a cool story about it....cuz I don't..... Okay.... Sunshower.....Well, I for one love the song...I have to agree with y'all about Eleven tho. I have never heard them, and thought that they would be good, seeing as though they chill with the guys so much...but, oh PEE YUU! They did not do Ave Maria or Sunshower any justice. I mean did any one else think that Natasha's vocals were a lil off? I think that if Chris does his solo thing...he should keep it SOLO, but that's just my opinion. Or he should at least do what Jerry Cantrel did, like someone said...please...ditch Elven already. I also have to agree that it didn't have as much soul as Chris usually has, but there is emotion in it...just not soul. I just don't want everyone to get their britches in a bundle tho. I mean, listen to every one of SGs albums...do they sound the same? No, cuz what did they do? They EXPERIMENTED. And maybe sometimes it didn't work out. But check it out...Chris is experimenting...trying to see what works for him and what doesn't....maybe after the outcome of Sunshower, he realized he didn't like Eleven's sound and moved right along, we don't know. Sure we can give our opinions on Sunshower all we want, but we don't need to generalize it as all of Chris's NEW work...we haven't even heard his new album. I think he loves his music and he will find away to do something that satisfies him, the bigwig companies, the fans, and whomever else I have left out. He's not gonna end up like some old 80s coot, I don't think he won't let it happen....why? Cuz he respects the music. These two songs were things he was asked to do...we don't know if Sunshower was written specifially for the movie...(unless y'all know something I don't). Whatever, I'm gonna stop, in fear of writing anymore than I already have, and not making any sense, and repeating myself....sorry to awaken the bigwigs..... da queen of da hedgehogz DeZHy "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." " the truth don't look that good on me." ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 8 Jan 1998 to 9 Jan 1998 **********************************************