Date:     Thu, 20 Nov 1997 02:00:03 -0500
Subject:  SOMMS Digest - 19 Nov 1997 to 20 Nov 1997

There are 23 messages totalling 535 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Chris' secret show (2)
  2. A-Sides (2)
  3. A-sides
  4. breathe with me (2)
  5. Hater (2)
  6. MC at Sit & Spin this Thursday (2)
  7. My Opinion sucks.
  8. new
  9. Secret shows (2)
 10. HELP ME!
 11. Don't hold your breath
 12. that lovely song...
 13. seth.....this one's 4 you
 14. coupla things
 15. nz SOMMSTERS???
 16. TDR sound clips
 17. <No subject given>

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 01:07:10 -0600
From:    Bill Flanders <whflanders@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Chris' secret show

At 08:54 PM 11/18/97 -0800, Laurie Casey wrote:
>Well guys, Chris fools us again.. I suppose that since I haven't heard
>about it on the list yet, none of us managed to be there.  Aparently
>Chris showed up last night with a couple of friends and played a show
>last night somewhere in Seattle.  I heard this from the people.. if it
>had just been the first I would have denounced it.. (he has told me
>Soundgarden has broken up every week since April 9th..) but I heard it
>from another friend who has inside info (he is friends with alice in
>chain's drummers girlfriend, and I guess Chris and AiC's drummer are
>good friends)  Anyway.. just letting you know Chris got the better of
>us... AGAIN!
>
>Laurie


What kind of songs did he play?  Or did your friends not tell you?

Bill

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Date:    Tue, 18 Nov 1997 23:11:29 -0800
From:    "S. Kutz" <sjkutz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: A-Sides

*ahem* stupid? did you not read my message? I'm freaking broke, kid. I'm
in colleg and paying for my stupid rent. I don't have the cash to buy an
album with songs i already have.  great way to make yourself known to
everyone.

sarah

ps i live in seattle too.

On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Nick Boos wrote:

> For all of you people who dont have A-Sides you are pretty stupid. It may
> have songs that we have all heard. But it has that really cool booklet with
> an awsome pic of ben. Oh, and I am new on the SOMMS mailing list, so i would
> just like to say hey to everybody. I am 14, I live in Seattle Washington. I
> love SUB POP. I have talked to matt like a couple of times. I love
> soundgarden, I have 10 of there CDS and one of there records, "Screaming
> Life" I hope to meet some really cool soundgarden fans, because I am the
> biggest at my high school.
>
> -Nick
> "The Slave on a Bulldozer"
>

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Date:    Tue, 18 Nov 1997 23:15:40 -0800
From:    "S. Kutz" <sjkutz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Chris' secret show

PISS
ME
OFF!
>(

why can't i be clued in and 21 like everyone else? =(

<<cries>>

sarah =)

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 02:25:51 -0500
From:    Jenny Grover <sleeveless@CITYNET.NET>
Subject: Re: A-sides

Nick Boos wrote:
> For all of you people who dont have A-Sides you are pretty stupid.

Nick, I'm old enough to be your mother, so I'm going to put on my best
Mom frown here.  People have their own personal idealogical or financial
reasons for buying or not buying albums, and stupidity rarely enters
into it.  Okay?  You're too young to be driving a bulldozer anyway, and
if you really are "the biggest at (your) high school" you probably need
to lose some weight. ;)

Jen

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:11:19 -0500
From:    Cemetery Starr <DeadXXDoll@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: breathe with me

You know what? That's probably true. I do own every song on A-sides, and it
does remind me of the breakup. However, A-sides represents more than that to
me. The first time I listened to A-sides, I was affected. Maybe this sounds
stupid, but it almost felt as if Soundgarden was taking me on a trip through
time. It still blows my mind, even now. (I've had A-sides since the day it
came out) Sure, I feel melancholy. Sure, it still hurts. But in a perverse
way, it gives me hope, and opens up a new chapter.

DeadXXDoll, who will stop rambling now...


In a message dated 97-11-18 19:54:57 EST, Varkey@UTDALLAS.edu writes:

>What's up. Has anyone here not bought A-Sides yet? I haven't and don't
>plan on doing it either. I have hated the whole idea of a SG greatest hits
>collection to begin with, and every song on there I own already, and
>buying A-Sides would remind me too much of the breakup everytime I looked
>at it. Anyway, my point is if you don't plan on purchasing A-Sides, what
>exactly are the reasons you won't?
>
>-vince

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:29:08 -0500
From:    Nick Boos <SubPop77@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: A-Sides

Ok everyone I am sorry about calling everyone stupid. I over reacted. I just
feel that it is another soundgarden relese and that any collection wouldnt be
complete without. Hey, right now I am listening to "Hunted Down", one of my
favorite soundgarden songs. Oh, and for the person that said that she was
like my mom or something, i didnt mean big as in size, i only weigh 140, i
ment as in size of likeing soundgarden. I apoigize to everyone who took me
wrong.

I am still looking for a copy of SOMMS, and FOPP on vinal. If you have and
are willing to trade/sell, please tell me.

I hope that you will all forgive me!

-Nick aka Little Joe

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:33:02 -0500
From:    Nick Boos <SubPop77@AOL.COM>
Subject: Hater

What is with ben wearing cowboy hats at hater shows. I saw them at
bumbershoot and he didnt, lucky me! They kicked ass, too bad they broke up,
luckly i got that CD.

Did you all know Matt is up in Vancouver BC at the end of the month for a
drum convention? I just might go up there for that.

Well other than that, for now, I have NOTHING TO SAY!

-Nick

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:57:14 EST
From:    saperl@ALUM.MIT.EDU
Subject: MC at Sit & Spin this Thursday

Matt Cameron will be playing with Josh Homme's band/project this
Thursday night (11/20) at Sit & Spin in Seattle, opening for Valis.

-seth

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:11:17 -0600
From:    Vasant Ramamurthy <vramamur@ARTSCI.WUSTL.EDU>
Subject: Re: breathe with me

>From:    Vince Varkey <varkey@UTDALLAS.EDU>

>What's up. Has anyone here not bought A-Sides yet? I haven't and don't
>plan on doing it either. I have hated the whole idea of a SG greatest hits
>collection to begin with, and every song on there I own already, and
>buying A-Sides would remind me too much of the breakup everytime I looked
>at it. Anyway, my point is if you don't plan on purchasing A-Sides, what
>exactly are the reasons you won't?

i'm not going to buy it, simply because i have every song anyways. and i
don't think it's worth paying $13+ just for some pictures and artwork.

vasant

----
vramamur@artsci.wustl.edu
"Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us
from the animals...except the weasel." - Homer Simpson

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:55:17 -0800
From:    "S. Kutz" <sjkutz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: MC at Sit & Spin this Thursday

is this an all ages show? i know that sit n spin rarely has all ages
shows, with the exception of the literary fuck-all.

sarah =)

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 saperl@alum.mit.edu wrote:

> Matt Cameron will be playing with Josh Homme's band/project this
> Thursday night (11/20) at Sit & Spin in Seattle, opening for Valis.
>
> -seth
>

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:17:21 -0500
From:    Dave George-Cosh <cosh@GOLDEN.NET>
Subject: My Opinion sucks.

OK. Well, I'm back. And I might have something important to say this time.

I am sorry that I caused such a ruckus with the name-bashing thing. I never
knew how deeply personal it is to certain people . So I hope you can all
find it in your heart to forgive me. Please do.

Dave

P.S. Hater split? What, when? How? Dear god? Aaaaahhh!

P.P.S. Hey, do you think Chris and Ben/Kim/Matt still talk to each other?

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:48:17 -0500
From:    jason <rwparen@CYBERUS.CA>
Subject: new

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Unfortunately, i'm not a huge sg fan like the rest of you, and, to be =
honest, the only reason i joined this list was to keep up with what the =
hell Chris, Ben, Matt and Kim are doing.=20

        I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me if any of them have =
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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:12:18 -0600
From:    Mike Ferguson <deadguy@INTERACCESS.COM>
Subject: Secret shows

Whoever was talking about secret shows, I'm not shocked. Most bands actually
have super-secret code names that they play club shows under. Only the
die-hard fans hear about the names, or the people that are club goers and
just happen upon the bands.

It's pretty apparent that people get sick of playing superstadiums.

As far as Soundgarden still being a band, I'm not saying that I'm shocked by
the idea of it, but I'd be pretty surprised if we hadn't already heard about
it on MTV News. =)

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:21:09 -0800
From:    Laurie Casey <kcasey@WIZARDS.NET>
Subject: HELP ME!

Okay, so this morning on the local station here in Seattle, the End,
they were giving away an autographed copy of A-Sides.  I need your help.
The question that you had to answer to get it was about the Mariner game
Kim threw the opening pitch at.  If *anyone* went to, or saw, this game
please, please, PLEASE mail me!  The DJ and I are in a ...controversy..
over it and I need all the info I can about this game.. I know some of
you went!

Arden

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:06:52 -0600
From:    Mike Ferguson <deadguy@INTERACCESS.COM>
Subject: Don't hold your breath

>Date:    Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:15:07 -0600
>From:    Vince Varkey <varkey@UTDALLAS.EDU>
>Subject: breathe with me
>
>What's up. Has anyone here not bought A-Sides yet? I haven't and don't
>plan on doing it either. I have hated the whole idea of a SG greatest hits
>collection to begin with, and every song on there I own already, and
>buying A-Sides would remind me too much of the breakup everytime I looked
>at it. Anyway, my point is if you don't plan on purchasing A-Sides, what
>exactly are the reasons you won't?


Okay... I haven't purchased it yet. The reason is because I would rather buy
Very Special Christmas 3 or whatever that Soundtrack is. I'll end up getting
all three, maybe.

But who cares about that. What I'm really replying to is the thing that it
reminds you of the breakup too much. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think
there's any point in anybody mourning over the death of Soundgarden. Read
what I'm about to say very carefully, please.

If you had to throw out all of your Soundgarden music, and would never hear
of them again, but lived on knowing that they once existed and the only
memory you had left was what you would hum, or scratch out on paper and play
on your guitar, then that's something to mourn for. But let's be honest...
none of us did that.

As a matter of fact, I listen to Soundgarden myself these days. And I've
decided that I'm going to listen to every single song and every album very
thoroughly one of these days. Really focus in on it. I hear things I never
heard before. I realize things I hadn't earlier.

Their music isn't dead. It's still very alive.

And while there will never be any more Soundgarden albums, the music still
lives on. We are very priveledged as fans of the band in the sense that
they're still putting out music. Wellwater Conspiracy is a prime example. So
is what Chris Cornell is doing right now. Matt did that Flying Traps thing.
Kim is doing nicely--seems like he's the one that decided to sit back and
look at everything he's missed in these past few years.

For those of you that aren't rational enough to say that the music still
lives and that hearing live performances isn't enough, then do it this way.
Let the band be happy. Would you rather prod them along, making them do
something they don't want to do, or would you rather see them enjoying
themselves?

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:00:50 -0500
From:    Nick Boos <SubPop77@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Hater

I dont know for sure about the Hater break up. I heard it here from someone
who talked to ben about it. When I talked to matt before the Hater show, he
didnt say anything about a break up.

-Nick

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:17:02 -0800
From:    "S. Kutz" <sjkutz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: that lovely song...

I heard "sunshower" today and was reminded of "seasons". did anyone else
think that? I was also reminded of the other cornell's band Inflatable
Soule. I've seen them a couple times and it makes me laugh to think of
Chris in Peter's place, but after hearing "sunshower" it makes me think
that maybe they aren't so far apart as far as musical genre goes. any
thoughts on this?

sarah =)

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:22:09 -0500
From:    Catherine Veit <Lilricky81@AOL.COM>
Subject: seth.....this one's 4 you

regarding multimedia on the site, isn't AU/WAVE format the same as realaudio.
i have that, but i still find it impossible to download audio clips. so what
is it exactly? and how should i go about installing it?

-catherine/cats4kim

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:12:36 -0800
From:    "S. Kutz" <sjkutz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Secret shows

are you implying that soundgarden didn't actually break up?

sarah =)

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:02:22 -0500
From:    Ben Timberlake <BTimLake@AOL.COM>
Subject: coupla things

Been gone for a while. Here's what I thought of:

I was listening to Like Suicide for the 4000th time and the lyrics, "She
lived like a murder how she'd fly so sweetly" struck me. As we all know,
the origin of this song supposedly comes from Chris's mercy-killing of an
injured bird. We can therefore assume that the "she" is the bird. A flock
of crows is called a "murder". I dunno why, I guess it's just like a
group of lions is called a "pride". So, um, no big revelation, I guess.
Just a further potential insight into Chris Cornells adeptness at lyric
writing.

Also, I'm sure it's been pointed out before, but the main riff for
phunpurephun on Pigeonhead's "The Full Sentence" (on which Kim plays some
guitar) is the same as that of "Blind Dogs". Even if that's old news,
it's more fun than one more person bringing up the Footsteps/Times of
Trouble thing.:)

Anyway. I'm back.

                                      -- Ben

Ben Timberlake                                  Blow up
btimlake@aol.com                              the outside
btimlake@nwu.edu                                 world.

"Ready or not, like it or not, here they come again. It's a
 shame, but you are just laughing."
                                -- Tim DeLaughter, "Piranha"

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Date:    Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:42:46 +1300
From:    Jeremy Nolan <Germ@XTRA.CO.NZ>
Subject: nz SOMMSTERS???

hi there...

i was wondering if theres any one out there from wellington nz ...
cos there isnt too many of us around...if your ou there ...let me
know...

c-ya

jerm

"give me little bits of more than i can take"

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Date:    Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:45:48 -0500
From:    Jenny Grover <sleeveless@CITYNET.NET>
Subject: TDR sound clips

Tic Dolly Row sound clips are up on my MOC page now:
http://www.citynet.net/personal/sightsound/moc/moc.html

So, if you want to hear raw (and I do mean raw) Ben vocals from 10 years
ago...

Jen

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Date:    Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:41:46 -0500
From:    Kelly Burnett <Ksb1775@AOL.COM>
Subject: <No subject given>

lly done, Dave.  I am glad I scrolled down to read your apology
on the subject because I was dreading posting something nasty for my first
contribution to the list.

Kelly

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