Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 02:00:28 -0500 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 17 Nov 1997 to 18 Nov 1997 There are 8 messages totalling 343 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. new stuff on my page/creative catharsis (2) 2. LOOSE BANANA 3. far away from here... 4. My Humble Opinion 5. tic dolly row 6. aussies only 7. It's been a year.... To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 02:22:23 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: new stuff on my page/creative catharsis After working my ass off and cussing the computer all night I have new stuff up on my page that might interest some of you. My new review is A-sides, and on my SG images page I have some new photos (thank you Catherine) and some of my SG artwork. Comments are most welcome. http://www.citynet.net/personal/sightsound/ Creative catharsis is a great idea, Bill. It certainly can help sort things out. However, when I wrote my break-up poem it made me feel worse. Then I decided the poem was crap after all, which didn't help either. Oh well. Some of us are beyond hope, I guess. ;) What has helped is learning (or trying to) to play some of their songs. Whatcha think, Niki? Agree? Jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 02:01:22 PST From: Wing'd Mentos Vermin Subject: LOOSE BANANA <> Yeah , rumor has it that Chris is growing his hair out some too [?], what's going on in this crazy world? ... rumor said Ben's also been seen in one of those groovy western stylie hat's, so we might be gonna see him hanging out with the Supersuckers and Mark D from the Melvins now? [where does rumor get these from?] ... Ben look's cool in stylie hats.... <<>> Bambi vs Godzilla? and hey everybody feeling glum , think of those crazy Loose banana's , always cracks me up [and live music help's , Helmet aren't half bad] = ] "have you seen this boy?" - [as played by rich's bro] Wing'd Vermin - brought to you courtesy of LOOSE BANANA!!!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:09:54 +0100 From: "L.F. Nemec" Subject: Re: far away from here... from psalm 77 i cried unto god with my voice, even unto god with my voice, and he gave ear unto me. in the day of my trouble i sought the lord: my sore ran in the night, = and ceased not: my soul refused to be comforted. i remembered god, and was troubled: i complained, and my spirit was overwhelmed. thou holdest mine eyes waking: i am so troubled that i cannot speak. i have considered the days of old, the years of ancient times. i call to remembrance my song in the night: i commune with mine own heart: and my spirit made diligent search. will the lord cast off forever? and will he be favorable no more? is his mercy clean gone forever? doth his promise fail forevermore? hath god forgotten to be gracious? hath he in anger shut up his tender mercies?=20 and i said, this is my infirmity: but i will remember the years of the = right hand of the most high. i will remember the works of the lord: surely i will remember thy wonders of old. i will meditate also of all thy work, and talk of thy doings. thy way, o god, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a god as our god? thou art the god that doest wonders: thou hast declared thy strength among the people. the waters saw thee, o god, the waters saw thee; they were afraid: the depths also were troubled. the clouds poured out water: the skies sent out a sound: thine arrows also went abroad. the voice of thy thunder was in the heaven: the lightnings lightned the world: the earth trembled and shook. thy way is in the sea, and thy path in the great waters, and thy = footsteps are not known. you've inspired me, you've given me hope, you've given me strength... you've crystalized my convictions, my ardor, my ambitions...=20 in my years with you i've found my path, my life, my love, my faith..... you haven't saved me... you've helped me to save myself.=20 the spark's still there, people, the flame still burns & always will... = you might not see it now, but one day.......=20 things change, people move on... but true love never dies. Lorraine 'Nothing can break me at all...' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:51:00 -0500 From: "Freer, Nicole A." Subject: Re: new stuff on my page/creative catharsis Jen Grover (the shortest bass player around) wrote: > and some of my SG artwork. Comments are most welcome. > http://www.citynet.net/personal/sightsound/ > here's a hint you guys, go and check this stuff out. especially the ben pastel. it is *Damn* good. > Creative catharsis is a great idea, Bill. It certainly can help sort > things out. However, when I wrote my break-up poem it made me feel > worse. Then I decided the poem was crap after all, which didn't help > either. Oh well. Some of us are beyond hope, I guess. ;) i wrote a really shitty coping thing about an hour or so after i found out on that Wednesday, April 9th, 1997. it sucked, and i tried to turn it into a song which sucked even worse. as i've said a trillion times, i can't get the correct words for them. it's aggravating, to say the least. > What hashelped is learning (or trying to) to play some of their songs. > Whatcha think, Niki? Agree? > oh definately. i think i sat and cried for hours while playing BUTOW, just trying to get myself under control. FoBD was a fav of mine back then too. so was the BHS solo... the more songs i learn, the more i appreciate them and the more i miss them, but hell- it really does help. so you can't play your cds? then go sit and blast flower out of your guitar/bass. it's a hell of a release, especially when parents are down your back. i think learning the SG songs that i know was something that has really helped me, in dealing and as a player in general. yes jen, i agree. = ) mind riot ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:55:26 -0500 From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: My Humble Opinion Now I know I'm going to be bashed and flamed for this... BUT WHY IS HALF THE MAILING LIST HAVING PEOPLE CALLED: "Mind Riot" "Spoonman" HUH? I mean, you aren't being original or anything. Now, if you want to talk original, let's talk about Soundgarden. They were original. But using their songs as your e-mail address, when other hundreds of people are using it? I mean, come on! I know my name ain't original....but quit it. I am sorry to shout and yell at the people such as Slave4CC (I hope you're still around.. I've been off the list for a year, and your name is the only one I remember!) etc.... Now, before you go on a rampage. This is my opinion. Read the subject. I am intitled to my free speech. And if you are angry, or agree with me, don't bash me personally, let everyone share. Becasue this mailing list need's some life, dammit! Dave P.S. Seth, I think you should make a new song of the month...and make some more news items. And a link for an .au of Sunshower. I haven't heard it yet! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:11:01 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: tic dolly row I just received info today about another pre-SG Ben Shepherd punk band, circa 1987, called Tic Dolly Row, and previously known as the Magnet Men. They featured Ben on vocals, Chad Channing on drums (who went on to be in the Fire Ants [pre-Devilhead Brian and Kevin Wood band] and Nirvana), John Hurd on guitar, and Chris Karr (currently with Bell) on bass. Anybody else know anything more about them? Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:12:36 +1100 From: Robert Joseph Hutchinson Subject: aussies only everybody in australia: how bout we make a combined effort to get some SG on the JJJ request fest, maybe even in the most requested. i would suggest bleed togrther cause its new but whatever, if we all request even once on the one day it should get on. we could even try for the hottest one hundred. i know theres a lot of us out there, and we can reveal some real music to the people listening to regurgitator, sorry if you like them. get back to me and ill organise it if noone else wants to, but im not reading my mail that much because its only at uni and im on exams then break rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:35:34 -0500 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: It's been a year.... Hello SOMMS peoples! I don't wanna add to the depressing shit, but I must put my 2 cents in.......of course we know it will come out to be a dollar fifty..... I just wanna say that the other day, when I responded to Justin and Rebekah's posts, I didn't know I was really responding to them, I just wanted to say how beautiful they are, and then I was responding to Bonnie's, but I guess in my own lil forgetful special way, i responded to the far away post........with that out of the way.......ON TO THE FESTIVITIES! Well, today November 17, 1997, is the anniversary of me not seeing Soundgarden perform at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC. I just thought I'd share the experience with y'all.... At my old internship, there was a chic named Amber, and our deal was, that if I hooked her up with a ticket to the show, she'd get us backstage, she knew the director of Roseland.....he could not get her a free tick, I still don't know why.... We planned for months what we were gonna say and do, but after awhile, figured that it wouldn't matter, and we're getting ourselves worked up, well....at least I did. So the big day comes. Before, she's telling me to dress like a psycho slut from hell, cuz they're rockstars, and she's dated plenty of rockstars. To me, they weren't rockstars, so I ended up wearing my Hell's Bells Part Two and nice lil china doll shirt.....lookin like Dezhy, I didn't want them to think I was a bimbo only interested in sex.....So, I'm at my crappy hippy dippy sunday school job, with my roommate and she tells me that the show is cancelled, her boyfriend's roommate, who I was supposed to go with as well, called Roseland to ask a dumb question, and found out about the show. Of course I don't believe her. So I go to Amber's house which isn't too far away....I tell her about the show.....we debated going anyway....Roseland wasn't that far away. We get to the block before Roseland and all these scalpers are chillin, tryin to offer us tickets......and then we turned the corner, and in big black caps on the Roseland sign was SOUNDGARDEN CANCELLED. My heart fell. Why was it, that the show I had tickets for got cancelled. At the other two shows, they at least saw a lil bit of the boys. I would even give up the passes just to see that show. The first thing I thought about was the poor lil girl that bought tics from the scalpers, so happy to see her band, only to turn the corner and see what I saw. That sign is forever burned in my mind. I still use it for acting class for when we need traumatizing experiences and stuff like that....There were a bunch of people standing outside with long faces, a guy in his car blasting Tighter and Tighter...I think....can't remember. We go around to the backstage exit just to make sure, see if we can get any info, nothing.....We go to the nearest hotel, the Paramount, and decided to be silly and call up and ask them if anybody from the band or related to the band was staying there. It didn't work. So we saw Two Days in the Valley....mumbling about how the movie better be damn good. When I get home, I finally realized what happend, I cried my eyes out......funny that it took me 7 hours since the first time I heard it to take it in. I called up my boyfriend (who dumped me two days later, but we're back together.....) and he told me he heard about it.....tellin me some cockamany story about how Chris killed Perry Farrell in a bar fight. The stupid fool that I am, I believed him, hell, I would have believed anything at that point. My room mate and I get into a screaming fight about how Chris shouldn't go to jail. She got that it was a cruel joke a lot quicker than I did. I figured it out when he told me that it happened the night before in a bar out in LA. Damn am I stupid......That Thursday I go to my old school, and I see people I was supposed to see at the show. They all assumed that I killed myself, went to the backstage entrance asking the Security guards if they saw a cute lil black girl with her brains splattered on a wall or something........sorry, I'm not that pathetic, it's sad that they think that of me....for weeks I moped around, but cheered up with the help of my friends....well, minus the fact that my boy dumped me......Then my current very good best friend type person told me a lil while later that she heard SG was gonna tour in Sept. I was so happy, thinkin they'd play around my b-day.....there goes another dream drowned......And to think the only time I ever got to see them play was at Lollaforloozers, and that could have been a better experience. I can't even remember it, I had such a bad time, all I can remember is that SG was a ray of beauty amongst madness. So what do I do to celebrate this wonderful occassion? Nothing, I go through my normal routine........And hope not to hear Sunshower, cuz that would make me go weak..... I still wanna express my feelings on the band like everyone else is, but I can't think right now. A few right ons to the people responding to those threads, you guys rule. BTW, was anyone listening to Howard Stern this morning? He and Bobby Shriver (Maria Schriver's brother/ one of the kennedy's) were arguing over who was better on the Very Special Xmas album, what's his face from Blue's Traveller or Chris. Howard was all for Chris, and I think he even called him a god. He kept jocking Chris's shit saying he had the best voice, and how much he loved him. That's pretty fuckin cool. And he also played Ave Maria.......So thru the chatter of Howie and Bobby, and the sleep left on my eyes I heard Ave maria, and I can't give a review, cuz I don't know what I heard..... Sorry to clog yer mail box.....just wanted to share.......much luv, yadda yadda yadda.... DeZHy "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." "the truth don't look that good on me." ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 17 Nov 1997 to 18 Nov 1997 ************************************************