Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 02:00:01 -0500 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 13 Nov 1997 to 14 Nov 1997 There are 11 messages totalling 365 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. BLEED TOGETHER 2. Trading 3. sunshine 4. oops sunshower? (3) 5. a shower of blood, the sun washes it away 6. far away from here... (3) 7. Who wants to hear "Come Together"? To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:34:50 -0500 From: Rachel Potter Subject: BLEED TOGETHER The radio station that i listen to has this thing called the new rock nine at nine... and that's exactly what it is... the play the top 9 requested new songs at nine every night. And i must say that bleed together is at #1 for the past week or so... but it has been battleing with megadeath! -Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:00:10 +0100 From: Anders Nergaard Subject: Trading I've just bought a copy of BIMH on white vinyl. This is a limited edition numbered 35/5000 (10+10$ p&p). Also I have some copies of Truly's Heart and Lungs ep left (same price). If anyone's interested in trading or buying these items (trading of SG-items like singles and posters prefered), please contact me personally. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:06:51 -0800 From: bjc Subject: sunshine they're playing it now on the end. reminds me of flutter girl and seasons mixture... i'm liking it :)) bonnie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:11:15 -0800 From: bjc Subject: oops sunshower? they said it was a world premiere and that you "are only gonna hear it right here on the end." is this true? anyone else hearing it locally? and i guess i got the title wrong...it's really sunshower....? but i still like the song... bonnie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:19:10 -0800 From: "S. Kutz" Subject: Re: oops sunshower? What is this song everyone's talking about??? I never listen to the radio 'cos they're alwaays playing the same old crap (sorry if I offend anyone) I accidentally heard bleed together a while ago (thought it was awesome-it felt great to hear a new song from them!) but since then (I haven't been listening so i have no idea what you're talking about! IS this some chris song i don't have a clue about? SOMEONE PLEASE INFORM ME! =) thanks! sarah =) ps bonnie- you from seattle? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:33:58 -0500 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: a shower of blood, the sun washes it away Ohayo SOMMS peoples, Bleed Together is getting some nice airplay over here in NYC, but then again, sometimes SG can be on heavy rotation going once or twice an hour. I'm not too fond of the song (it grows on me tho) but it's definately nice to hear something other than Spoonman or Rhinosaur. I haven't heard Sunshower yet, so maybe yer radio station is right Bonnie, but it won't be that way for long. Now I have a question, going along with A-Sides, have y'all heard any of the other songs off of there on the radio? I mean they were all singles, and I'm sure it would be refreshing to hear other SG songs off the radio that would suprise you and make you shit yer draws.......I mean when was the last time you heard Flower on da radio, if ever...... okay, now my brain is drained.... wait, not just yet..... oh....btw, has anyone been watching the 500 countdown on MTV? I am right now cuz there ain't nothin on......What number and video did SG represent with? Another question that flows thru my mind.....why can't videos be rated by originality and creativity, rather than the minds of 10 year olds from Iowa with half a brain with no concept of what music really is and can be and just follow whatever Seventeen magazine says is cool, even when they are too young to be reading that magazine in the first place (no offense to anyone resembling this description).....It just really irks me......what happend to minds in music? And isn't MTV about music? Don't ya think it's time they started playing some again...... DeZHy Do the world a favor....KILL FAT PIGFIELD! (matt pinfield) "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." "the truth don't look that good on me." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:32:18 -0600 From: Bill Flanders Subject: Re: oops sunshower? At 06:11 AM 11/13/97 -0800, bjc wrote: >they said it was a world premiere and that you "are only gonna hear it >right here on the end." > >is this true? anyone else hearing it locally? and i guess i got the title >wrong...it's really sunshower....? > >but i still like the song... I called every radio station in the city and none of them had this song. Is it being played legally? Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:54:36 +1000 From: justin nicholls Subject: far away from here... soundgarden and melancholia. two words that just seem to go so well together these days, I think. I finished work late last night, and was out trying to find something to eat (I think I'd had maybe one apple all day). I wound up at a shopping mall in toowong, crossing my fingers that someone would have something edible available, even though it was nine o'clock at night and not exactly a hotspot of town. for those of you who are not students and not living in australia (something like 98% of the list population, I imagine), exams are choking the life out of the rest of us, and till last night I have had no opportunity to try and find _a-sides_. I've seen the cover art thanks to sgi.net, and I know the tracklisting and liner notes thanks to other sommsters, but I was yet to actually hold it in my hands, what is for now the last soundgarden release. so it was almost full circle for me, an interesting kind of flashback. I ended up going up to the third floor to chandlers music store, the first place I had ever laid eyes on _superunknown_. weird, really, since I don't even live in that part of town. I ducked under the roller-door and quickly scanned the shelves. it was there, $27.95, scratched cover and rippling artwork. I only had a few moments to look at it, to feel it under my finger tips. I guess music can be a tactile experience if you are in the right mood. my girlfriend pretended to chide me for running around in a closed store, and then saw my face and smiled. I put the record back and we left, a thousand miles and a thousand years since that time I first saw that screaming elf and that burning forest. sorry for being dramatic, but over the past couple of weeks I've become a little disheartened. soundgarden is gone, and I don't think they will ever come back. more importantly, soundgarden is gone and I don't think anyone will ever be able to grab my heart like they did. I heard 'ave maria' last week. granted, it was only once, but I was not thrilled. on the other hand, first reports of 'sunshower' seem to be happily favourable. but perhaps more significantly, many listers have complained of the sadness they feel when they listen to _a-sides_, that virtual trip down what is for us memory lane. ("the best of soundgarden for one low price"? that is definitely the last nail in the coffin, regardless of _b-sides_ or anything else we could dream up). I keep trying to think of a group of musicians who have been so creative, so instrumental in rock music, that have broken up and then managed to go on and be just as successful or just as moving in their various solo careers. to tell you the truth, my list is very short. ever heard of living colour? their music was, to me, blinding. now, some three years after their breakup, I wonder where they are. I haven't listened (really *listened*) to any soundgarden for a fortnight. I played 'bleed together' and 'limo wreck' the other night, but could only get through half of either of them. I'm afraid that nothing kim, matt, ben or chris ever does will ever scale the heights that soundgarden did. I'm afraid that when I play their records I won't hear the honesty and the magic, that I'll only hear the dark rooms and silent microphones of the studios they will never record in again. the future of soundgarden once seemed very bright indeed. and as much as I wish the future endeavours of the former members of soundgarden success and satisfaction, I don't think it will come. don't get me wrong, I'm not begrudging them their lives or their decisions. I'm sure they were the right ones. I only lament what they could have done, and what it might have meant to me. soundgarden were, and still are, special. the future of music is just that much bleaker without them. I will miss them. justin ------ and I'm lost behind the words I'll never find and I'm left behind as the seasons roll on by - words by chris cornell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:54:51 -0500 From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Re: far away from here... I don't believe I've ever read an email during my entire stay here at the SOMMS motel that pulled my heartstrings quite like Justin's email did. I know what he means about bands breaking up and their members new music projects not retaining the popularity, success, or satisfaction and that is quite saddening. I wish so much that Chris's, Kim's, Matt's or Ben's future endeavors do not suffer the same fate and I hope that their private style while in SG will help prevent that from happening. I know that I look forward to the new things they do and following those paths to keep up to date on my favorite musicians, but I'm not the millions of people that bought their albums. I'm just one person who bought their albums while they were Soundgarden and love them still now that they've become legend. I know that we, the fans, did not make them great. They did and it would appear that they never wanted to be great, but they just couldn't help it. They had talent far beyond comprehension and I think they simply couldn't help it. They have talent individually and can all shine on their own, but when they were together, they were heavenly. I can't think of a better word to describe it. You all know what it is when you listen to a SG song. I don't know what will become of them and their status in the music world. I have no thoughts on whether or not they will remain popular and make millions of dollars and you know what? I don't think that's even the point. They've all made it clear that they never wanted fame. Maybe what they want is just to make music and live quiet normal lives. We are all fascinated with everything they do and perhaps to the extreme that we forget they are human beings and not much different from us. How would we be able to cope with that kind of fame, attention, and other people's expectations? And knowing that those expectations are really all that matter to the media and alot of fans. That's really awful since those people are not who matter. The people who matter are the ones who simply love the music. I think that includes us. I think if they just make the music they feel true to making and live in relative peace in quiet, then they have the last laugh. They got what they wanted all along and I can't help but smile at that. They win. I think that while they were in SG they gave a little bit more than they wanted. They gave a little bit more to the media and to the fans than they wanted to. Maybe if we don't hear about or from the guys, it's because they finally got their peace. Maybe that's what happens to those people who seemingly appear to drop off the face of the earth after their bands break up. Maybe they're doing what they wanted in the first place. It would seem to be the ultimate reward for the music to continue to be popular and successful while it's makers happily remain elusive. Can you imagine anything more sweet? Soundgarden definitely has a place in my life, my heart, and my soul and nobody can take them away from me. I will follow their future careers and I wish them happiness and contentment in whatever they do. I also want them to win and have the last laugh. May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:11:38 -0600 From: Bill Flanders Subject: Who wants to hear "Come Together"? Seth has taken the generosity of hosting the Soundgarden live bootleg "Full On Kevin's Mom." Browse to the address: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~tmg/soundgarden/bootlegs.html for details. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:31:03 -0500 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: Re: far away from here... You know, I must first start off this post with excellent applause for Rebekah and Justin.....oh my god.....you guys are wonderful people, with beautiful minds. I'm lost for words about your posts. Many many kudos..... Well Bonnie, looks as though your radio staion is not the only place you can hear Sunshower..... My friend calls me up to tell me to turn on the radio, I do. It takes me a few secs, but then I recognize that beautiful voice.....I screamed....my mom rushes in, thinking my new ferret died or something. I tell her everything is fine. I'm standing there, on the phone repeating over and over, it's so good, it's so good. After a while, it progressed into many ahhhs and ohhhs, I realized this and commented to my friend that I was having an orgasm, we laughed. Then, the sentimental sap that I am, I started to cry, one) cuz it was beautiful, two) I wanted to hear Kim's guitar, and Matt's drums, and Ben's bass. It was the actual factual finalization of Soundgarden breaking up. So I tell her I have to hang up because I must tell the list that I just heard the song and how happy I was (and upset), then I realized I had twenty minutes to get to get to my college class and it was a half an hour away. So I stay on the phone with her until the song ends. It does. Then the DJ says something along the line of "that was a new song by Chris Cornell, the old lead singer of Soundgarden, Sunflower." Then I screamed, again, into the phone about how the song was called Sunshower and you can even hear Chris singing it. Well I hung up with that girl and my fingers did the dialing to the radio station, let it ring 20 times, cuz they never pick up, and guess what? They didn't pick up. Well, I love the song, I don't care who hates me for it. Well, that was my little story, hope y'all enjoyed it, and if not, it's all good, no hurt feelings. So Oyasa minasai! Take care, much luv, and all that jazz..... DeZHy "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies" "the truth don't look that good on me." ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 13 Nov 1997 to 14 Nov 1997 ************************************************