Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 02:00:05 -0400 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 26 Sep 1997 to 27 Sep 1997 There are 21 messages totalling 863 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Greatest Hits...will this saga never end? 2. Kim and greatest hits 3. acoustic... 4. Things could be turning back around 5. The Rockabilia Catalog 6. The A team! 7. greatest hits 8. FREE STUFF!!!! 9. A-sides: a thought... / WWC 10. greatist hits / unplugged 11. B-SIDES - FUCK THE CORPORATE MASSES! 12. Some thoughts (2) 13. characteristic songs/influences/Bleed Together 14. No one bruises my mind 15. A-sides...what joy ..sucks 16. how SG will be remembered (3) 17. from the OFFICIAL website.....wow. (2) To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 02:48:10 -0400 From: rita Subject: Greatest Hits...will this saga never end? I'm not whining about how much the CD will cost me, money is the last thing that crosses my mind when Soundgarden is concerned....I'm not dissapointed that there are no B-sides, yes, you all are right, Greatest Hits = Singles, A-sides, just like the title says. What disturbs me is the fact that such a compilation is going to be released at all. To me, it seems like a very un-Soundgarden-ish thing to do...they've never been a band to follow your typical hard rock cliches. And it's also so damn soon!! I'd understand if a band like Aerosmith or the Rolling Stones broke up and released such a thing 7 months later, but these bands have like a 25 year+ resume. Something like this, pacakged so soon and close to the Christmas shopping frenzy season leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Fine, call me naive, I don't care, but I preferred it when I knew nothing about how record companies run their business. Dehzy, >again. I would really really like to know what a "hardcore fan" is, >because this would apparently make me on the otherside of things, >according to you, and a lot of other people on the list. I didn't use the word hardcore, that article did...however, re-reading what I posted, I realize I played the holier-than-thou game which is something I absouletly *detest* so I apologize if offended you or anyone else...the last thing I ever want to do is judge someone else's worth as a fan. just like to add Rusty Cage came on muchmusic as I type *sigh* >P.P.S. Oh about Kim, don't shoot the guy down. Yeah, it's kinda not >something we all wanted to hear, but like you said, it could be sarcasm, yeah I know, but I know that if another band of their generation broke up and released something like this so soon, he probably wouldn't be so nice. And it wasn't nothing personal towards Kim, Chris or Matt or Ben could have said the same thing and I would still be disgusted...erm...disgutsed, that's quite a strong word eh?...look a different word up for me in the thesaraus (23 points hardcore fan points if I spelled thersarus right! :P) ok smart sommsters? ;) I really think Justin summed up all I wanted to say in a nice clean persice way...it's what we all expected, but still hokey. ~rita ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 21:19:16 +0800 From: sabrina Subject: Kim and greatest hits >P.P.S. Oh about Kim, don't shoot the guy down. Yeah, it's kinda not something >we all wanted to hear, but like you said, it could be sarcasm, of course we >cannot read human voices and emotions over the screens of our computers, >unless they're written So whatever, maybe he just feels this album >is for people getting to know SG. Whatever it is, I don't think Kim was being saracastic. Read this from Wall of Sound, especially the last sentence (God, I just love pasting, don't I?) "Soundgarden's Greatest-Hits Collection Already Coming A&M Records has wasted no time putting together a compilation of the screaming life of Soundgarden. The now-defunct Seattle-based band will receive the full-on greatest-hits treatment with the release of A-Sides on November 4. The collection covers the band's life from its inception in 1984 to its April of 1997 breakup, and includes singles from the band's earliest releases up until last year's Down on the Upside album. The seventeen-song compilation ends with "Bleed Together," a European B-side from the Down on the Upside sessions that has never before been commercially available in the U.S.; the song will be released as the first single. According to an A&M spokesperson, guitarist Kim Thayil spearheaded the greatest-hits effort, rallying the other band members and providing an interview for the biography to be included with the collection. " He *spearheaded* the idea, so I guess he was being pretty serious... unless that A&M spokesperson was being sarcastic ;-) And apparantly the CD booklet is going to contain a SG biography with a Kim interview. But like Rita, I can't really understand why Kim of all people would be so into this.... sabrina ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 21:51:28 -0700 From: McMahon Potvin Subject: acoustic... I remember Chris sayin that sg didn't wan't to do mtv unplugged cause they thought they didn't have enough acoustic material... :( ... i agree with Mike, a lot of their songs would make some great sounding acoustic pieces... I just love an acoustic sound. It just lets you discover a band in a whole new raw and uncut way, kinda like watching a band live for the first time... A wasn't a fan of what Hole did, but when i saw their Unplugged show, i was just blown away. same goes for Live... and what can i say of the Pearl Jam show... anyway, i'm sure songs like Overfloater, Zero, Fell On BlackDays and aaaaaalll the others... oh stop fuckin dreamin! It would've been great. And i'm sure they could put together a 60 min acoustic set. But hey, if they thought it was best not to do so, it was best not to do so. It just wasn't meant to be. snif... Wouldn't it be great if someone (Chris, maybe) would record acoustic pieces of these songs and then lay Chris vocals on them with a little editing.... I would have liked that way better than this a-side thing. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:07:00 -0400 From: Lance Huber Subject: Re: Things could be turning back around In a message dated 9/25/97 5:13:45 PM, Nahedgehog@AOL.COM wrote: <> This is a beautiful thing. Let us all kneel around our individual alters of worship and pray, chant, worship, that this does indeed come to pass!!!!!!! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:44:54 -0400 From: Paul Sandhu Subject: The Rockabilia Catalog what's the number for the rockabilia catalog? And also where can i get a Badmortorfinger/Somms cd, Flower, Loud Love, Loudest Love and Songs From The Superunknown. Hopefully somewhere in Toronto Canada. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 12:01:19 -0400 From: Lance Huber Subject: Re: The A team! <<>Laura wrote:>Do you think there are lots of "marginal" fans? Really? I don't.>> I think there are DEFINATELY marginal fans. I mean come on. They're called "band wagon jumpers" and all they do is follow what happens to be happening at the time. When the Seattle scene was huge earlier in the 90's everybody (including the media) jumped on the wagon. Then industry got hold of it, homogeonized it watered it down, burned everyone out on it (everyone meaning the "marginal fans") and then they moved on to the next "big thing". Think about it. Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers, Marilyn Manson are huge right now. In 2 years, you'll never hear about them anymore. This brings up a point that has been on my mind for some time. Last December (as I was flying to Seattle to see Soundgarden's "final" American show) I read an article in either Time or Newsweek (I forget which) that professed that the "alternative" scene was dead or dying. They cited sagging record sells from bands like Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, REM, etc. They talked about how all these bands had alienated the public. Had burned out so on and so forth. However, I think they are totally wrong. What had happend was, the "band-wagon jumpers" had jumped off and moved on to the next in-thing. Bands like SG, PJ, REM, Living Colour, etc had always been bands based on musical experimentation, stretching boundaries, exploring new territories. And as they continued to do this, instead of churning out recycled versions of their "successful & commercially proven" songs & albums, they kind of alienated the jumpers when they couldn't tap their foot to the music or did something unexpectedly. However, true "fans" of the bands stuck with them and hungrily awaited every new little thing that their bands would produce. Much like a lot of us SOMMSters do. So there are fans like many of us who are NOT marginal. We may not like everything they do (Hell Seth really dislike DOTU, but he didn't stop the damn page or list), but we respect and admire them and stand by them. Shit, how many of you out there are just sweating waiting for A Very Special Christmas just to have something new. Who the hell would have put a X-mas song on the top of their wish list? No one. But we still want to see it. So yeah, there are marginal fans and they'll probably buy A-sides en masse. Personally, I still prefer the old days (b-4 SU) when no one really knew who the hell they were and it was like my own private thing. I often wonder also, if SG popularity had not exploded in 1994, would they still be together, making kick-ass music without the inner-turmoil? (But we can second guess shit till the end of time & it won't change a thing) I for one WILL BUY A-Sides. Why, because I want it to keep my collection complete and to support the band. Plus it will be cool to have a new mix to work out to. And I will continue to buy Hater stuff, Wellwater stuff, Pigeonhed, Chris solo stuff, & so on because I'm hooked. I'm an SG junkie. And I want anything I can get my hands on. But yes, I think the majority of fans, by their very definition & buying habits are "marginal" fans. Time was wrong. The alternative music scene isn't dead. The band wagon jumpers are. Thank God. In my own words. Lance P.S. Feel free to flame away. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 10:43:44 PDT From: Jill Mikkelson Subject: greatest hits high....... Well I dunno what to say i mean im really happy theres gonna be a "greatest hits" but like most of you i would have prefered some B-sides. i could never get tired or bored of any of SG music so this album is gonna be the one always in my cd player cause its got lotsa diffrent songs frum diffrent albums i think that is kewl.... I really wish theyd put a bunch of those unrealeased songs on an album too...i cant afford to buy all the singles and bootlegs so ive only really heared stuff off their albums and a few soundtracks. I would die to get a hold of a really really good bootleg.... i still hafta get Screaming Life/ Fopp EP and Ultremega OK but ive heared most of tha stuff so it will b e good to have like 2 songs off those albums (if that) this is just forshadowing what the music industry and fans r becoming...only wanting and buy those popoular songs for tha fans and just out to make millions with those songs for tha record compangny... if a person can like a band who hasnt sold millions and theyre not a major lable u can tell theyre in it for tha music but if you find people who can only like those really popular bands you can tell the industry has gotten to them......this is what its coming to.....its sad really....i mean its about tha music not tha money so if A&M ever hapens to read this ITS BOUT THA MUSIC NOT THA MONEY!!!!!!!! its really starting to aggravate me......money money money all anyone ever thinks about....... love rage harmony war Jill Whatsoever I've feared has come to life Whatsoever I've fought off became my life Just when everyday seemed to greet me with a smile Sunspots have faded Now I'm doin' time ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 13:43:07 -0500 From: tonerkin Subject: FREE STUFF!!!! Hello, Now that I have your undivided attention!!! I have another give away......all you bad boys and girls bickering with each other don't deserve this BUTT being the sweet person that I am I am doing it anyway. Today I found (in the sale bin.... OUCH!!!) a UK import copy of The Day I Tried To Live. The songs listed are: TDITL, Like Suicide(acoustic version), Kickstand (Live) Rules are the same: Send me (tonerkin@pipeline.com) a note saying you want to enter the give away. Please DO NOT mail somms. I will once again throw everyone's addie in my SOMMS baseball hat and maybe this time Peggy the dog will slobber on the winning entry. If your name is the wettest than you win!!! I contact you and you send your snail mail address to me and I mail off your CD. That's it! Nothing to buy....no hidden cost......no religious fanatics ringing your doorbell. So enter now and try your luck!! Drawing will be October 1st!!! toni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 15:35:11 -0400 From: "Freer, Nicole A." Subject: A-sides: a thought... / WWC hey sommsters. i've been thinking and thinking about this comp, and i'm going to end up getting it anyway, so i might as well stop bitching about the damn thing. but, that's not why i wrote. i'm confused about the whole Bleed Together being released as a single thing. Have things like this occurred before? Bands releasing singles from their GH albums? and if this really is happening, what do we look for? b-sides to this b-side? Karaoke? the Dusty remix? another rehash of Cold Bitch? = ) anyway, I am going to be able to do a full-out review of the A-sides compilation for the paper i used to write for/still semi write for, and once it's done (after the album comes out, of course) anyone interested in my review can ask me about it. i don't know how relevant it'll be to regular Somms conversation... WWC: damn, i like this album. i finally found it last night (no ordering! happy!) and plopped it in my player this morning and felt like i was listening to John Lennon. I knew chris had said ben could sound like Lennon, but damn! it was eerie. i called my beatles-crazed friend in who just kinda stood there and said, "Wow, it sounds like Srgt. Pepper-era stuff..." = ) i really do like it a lot though. i'm glad. = ) i like the inclusion of so many instrumental tracks as well, i think it's a real relaxing record to listen to. that's all from me today.. mind riot ps- all of you who like Bjork, the new album is beautiful...go and get it now! =) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 13:21:47 -0700 From: J Thompson Subject: greatist hits / unplugged I have to admit that I was disappointed with the track list at first, but after reading: =20 "Thayil would like to see a video collection emerge at some point as well, featuring all the band=92s clips from "Flower" to "Blow Up The Outside World," and he is also keen on compiling, for future release, every B-side, live recording, alternate or demo mix, and non-album track (original and covers) that Soundgarden ever recorded. For the hardcore fan,..." I wasn't as dissapointed. It looks as though we may get what we wanted, just not on this release. Put yourself in their position tough, you owe A&M some sort of compensation for ending the contract early. Do you pay out of pocket or let A&M release a singles compilation? There are a few songs that a lot of people probably haven't heard: Nothing to Say, Flower or Get on the Snake. You can't expect everybody to love Soundgarden as much as we do, they're not an easy band to "get". I'm just hoping that this isn't the last Soundgarden release. I hope Kim follows through and there are more raritites/videos released for us "hardcore" people. =20 On the subject of video footage, I rented HYPE! the other day and there are quite a few things I would like to see the full version of, like the concert with the swmgec intro and especially the Self Pollution footage they showed for about 1 second. On the subject of an Unplugged performance, I guess it's remotely possible. It's not like the guys hate each other, they just went their own ways. It's also something they never did (that I know of) - an acoustic performance. I don't really have a setlist in mind, I'd just be happy to see all four guys on the same stage at once to play music again (acoustic or not). later, J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 14:01:34 -0700 From: Jordan Snodgrass Subject: B-SIDES - FUCK THE CORPORATE MASSES! alright, i've just about had it. after over a year of compiling every single soundgarden b-side ever, i'm ready to release this fucker to the sommsters BEFORE a&m puts my 2 years of work to waste! Here's the track list: FOR SOMMS EYES & EARS ONLY. 1) Heretic (original version) [Deep Six] 2) Tears To Forget [Deep Six] 3) All Your Lies [Deep Six] 4) Sub Pop Rock City [Sub Pop 200] 5) Toy Box [Flower Single] 6) Come Together [Hands All Over Single] 7) Heretic (new version) [Hands All Over Single] 8) Big Bottom [Louder Than Live VHS] 9) Earache My Eye [Louder Than Live VHS] 10) HIV Baby [Born To Choose] 11) Gun (live '90) [Blow Up The Outside World Single] 12) Get On the Snake (live '90) [BUTOW Single] 13) Fresh Deadly Roses [Loudest Love] 14) Big Dumb Sex (dub) [Loudest Love] 15) Cold Bitch [Spoonman Single] 16) Into The Void (Sealth) [Badmotorfinger/SOMMS] 17) Girl U Want [SOMMS] 18) Stray Cat Blues [SOMMS] 19) She's A Politician [SOMMS] 20) Slaves & Bulldozers (Live) [SOMMS] 21) Birth Ritual (demo) [My Wave Single] 22) Touch Me [Rusty Cage Single] 23) Show Me [Rusty Cage Single] 24) I Don't Care About You [Outshined Single] 25) Can You See Me [Outshined Single] 26) I Can't Give You Anything [Outshined Single] 27) Homicidal Suicidal [Outshined Single] 28) Seasons [Singles Soundtrack] 29) Birth Ritual [Singles Soundtrack] 30) Kickstand (Live) [The Day I Tried To Live Single] 31) Jesus Christ Pose (Live) [Black Hole Sun Single] 32) Beyond The Wheel (Live) [Black Hole Sun Single] 33) My Wave (Live) [My Wave Single] 34) New Damage (with Brian May) [Alternative NRG] 35) She Likes Suprises [Songs From The Superunknown] 36) Like Suicide (Acoustic) [Songs From The Superunknown] 37) Exit Stonehenge [Spoonman Single] 38) Spoonman (Steve Fisk Remix) [My Wave Single] 39) Fell On Black Days (Live) [FOBD Single] 40) Kyle Petty, Son of Richard [FOBD Single] 41) Fell On Black Days (Demo Version) [FOBD Single] 42) Motorcycle Loop (Short Version) [FOBD Single] 43) Fell On Black Days (Video Version) [FOBD Single] 44) Blind Dogs [Basketball Diaries Soundtrack] 45) Jerry Garcia's Finger [Songs From The Superunknown] 46) Kyle Petty Son of Richard (O'Brien Mix) [Home Alive] 47) Bleed Together [Burden In My Hand Single] 48) Karaoke [Launch, Track 2 1st disk] 49) Dusty (Moby Remix) [Blow Up The Outside World Single] 50) A Splice of Space Jam [BUTOW Single] 51) Rhinosaur (remix) [Ty Cobb Single] All of the songs are taken from their ORIGINAL CD (except for the louder than live tracks, which have been taken from VHS), so sound quality is perfect. Here's the cool part: These B-sides will be burned onto CD's by yours truly at no charge. Just provide 3 blank 74 minute CDr's and some cash for return postage and you got it. the art work kicks ass too...check out the CD cover at http://sdcc8.ucsd.edu/~jasnodgr/cover.jpg For now, if you're interested in this, just email me telling me you're interested and i'll get back to everyone in a few days with information. KEEP IN MIND: I'm expecting a huge flood of requests, so it may take a while to receive yours. I'm going to do them in the order I receive them. THIS IS FOR SOMMS ONLY. so there. -js mailto:jasnodgr@ucsd.edu PS, the title of this compilation is going to be: "Down On The B-Sides" w00h00! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 18:23:32 -0400 From: Sarah Jordet Subject: Some thoughts Hello there fellow sommsters. I haven't posted in a very long time, but got the urge last night. I went to the site today, and, as I have been neglecting to read the list mail lately, found out for the first time about A-Sides. It wasn't a complete shock, since I'd been listening to all the "threats" (for lack of a better term) of this for quite some time now. When the rumor of a greatest hits album first came around, I guess I was pretty much neutral about it. It didn't matter to me. It would be something I could pop into the player and listen to the most society-friendly Soundgarden songs when I was in a society-friendly mood. When I came across this today, and read the press release, I thought differently. Reading over the track list, I thought to myself, DOTU was an excellent going-out-with-a-proud-and-creative-bang-er, but now it's not going to be their last album. I find it a little depressing to think that Soundgarden's very last album ever is going to be made up of recycled material. I think to myself, what a waste, but I know they had one more album in their contract and that it might have just jerked us all around even more if they had gotten back together long enough to put out one last recording, though I highly doubt they ever would have. It was kind of a quirk for me to find this out today, since just last night I was crying because I realized again that they were broken up. I look up every day at my walls and see my posters and framed vinyl and and pictures from ads and articles. I trip every day over my bootlegs and singles and EP's and albums, but I realized that I haven't listened to any of their music or watched any of their videos for about 3 and a half months now. I haven't been avoiding them, I just subconciously haven't been picking their music when I'm in the mood to listen to something. Now that I think about it I don't know if I could. It all reminds me of a conversation I had with an online friend one day, a fellow Filter fan who likes to comment on Brian Liesegang with me and has a small interest in Soundgarden. It was two or three days after the breakup and I was still bawling out of control. She mentioned she was sorry about it, since she knows how much I love them, but was very surprised when I told her how I was reacting. I remember her exact words as being, "For heaven's sake, doll! Why cry? It's just a band." I told her that although a band is made up of very seperate people, their effort, lives, creations, and abilities tossed in together as one and given a title can become its own entity, like a living, breathing, able creature, or something of the sort. I mean, they all put their lives and souls into it, so why shouldn't we get a life and soul out of it? I thought that was what music was there for, not just for background noise or social status. So when I saw the A-Sides press release, I was a bit disapointed, but mostly just reminded that one of the best things that has ever happened to me is gone and is not coming back. Because of Soundgarden I met the guy whom I hope is my soul mate, I met you guys, my eyes were opened to a whole new world of emotions and a whole different lifestyle. Soundgarden litteraly changed my life, and I thank them for that. I only wish I could have had the chance to thank them in person. Soundgarden breaking up was kind of a shift of power, the Boys shrugging the responsibilities and title off their shoulers and onto ours. It is now our job to stay strong and combine our effort, lives, creations, and abilities to keep the life in the legend that is Soundgarden. Now that all the babbling is done, I'd like to say that I am now accepting ideas on how to celebrate Ben's 30th birthday. Less than a year away, y'know... Benlover ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 17:47:56 -0500 From: Geoff Subject: Re: Some thoughts Who says A-sides will be SG's last album? In the spring I'm sure most of us thought DOTU was sg's final release. Geoff Sarah Jordet wrote: When I came across this today, and read the press release, I thought > differently. Reading over the track list, I thought to myself, DOTU was an > excellent going-out-with-a-proud-and-creative-bang-er, but now it's not going > to be their last album. I find it a little depressing to think that > Soundgarden's very last album ever is going to be made up of recycled > material. Benlover ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 18:41:42 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: characteristic songs/influences/Bleed Together Let me just explain here my reason for picking Dusty over Head Down as characteristic of Ben's writing style. I think Head Down is the one that tends to pop into our minds first because it is an outstanding song, and because he wrote the lyrics too. However, Head Down doesn't feature a couple of things I associate with his 'typical' writing style (including his Hater songs), those being fast, punchy chord sections and odd timing changes. Dusty has not only those, but those quieter melodic moments as well. As for choosing BUTOW to represent Chris, that was an attempt to find a song that featured elements of both his louder and quieter side too. Pretty hard to do. And I'm pleased at their choice of Bleed Together for the lone b-side. Hate to contradict you, Rita, but I'll bet a lot of serious fans haven't gotten their hands or ears on it yet. I had to special order it imported and it wasn't cheap. But the first time I put it on I said, Damn!! That should have been a single. That song just has single written all over it. And I wonder if IT will have a b-side that's an honest b-side? Some sort of video? It will be interesting to see. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:14:38 -0400 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: No one bruises my mind Hello happy Sommsters! Well, I know that most of the posts are for info only, or supposedly, but this is a warning for the people that don't enjoy reading things not related to new news. This is about inspiration and heroes I guess.......So this is your last chance to delete (not really) but i do not want to hear any complaints cuz I warned you people okay......and if you really have a problem with it, email me privately, instead of the whole list, cuz those are posts that really piss me off. For those of you that stayed around, reminder, this post ain't offensive, it's just some thoughts off my mental (something a hoodie wrote in a poem to me).......So here goes...... Last night I started flipping out cuz of SAT's and college choices, and my grandmother in the hopstial. So I went to my mother to cry on. She helped me out with some of my forms and stuff, and then she gave me one of those "Mother/ Daughter pep talks," ya know the ones where "you can be anything you want to be, as long as you work hard for it" dealies. So she sat there and started naming some of my famous actors and actresses, and then I said something about Chris, it wasn't really relevent to what she was saying, but she then went on to say that the whole band had worked hard to get to where they have gone. She was like they have the talent and the drive, and they worked hard, and that it was great that I loved a band that had worked so hard to get to that status. It was great cuz I didn't know if any of the info I ever told her had sunk in, and apparently it did. But while she was talking about them, it hit me.....my heroes are Soundgarden. I know that sounds cheesy. But I look up to them, I admire them. Since i never realized how they made me feel untill now, I kinda find myself today looking at them and myself with more respect, I now have more drive. I mean look at their lives, not being as fortunate, having to defy some odds, friends dying, but they actually achieved something, something great. Yeah, I know yer all saying, but they broke up, so what, they still have prospered, and they still will. As a band, or as four individuals, they all made their mark in the world. They have done it together, and now seperately, and that's gotta be worth something. They are people, not just music. But these people have made music that we can appreciate, and they had to work hard for people all around the world to experience it. All I'm sayin is that they kinda are geting me out of my rut. I'm sorry, I can't really make all of this sound right, cuz I'm still kind of new to this whole thing, it's like a break through in acting, and yer just a lil new to everything. Anyway, that was odd. Well, today the tickets for the Jane's Addiction Reunion Tour Halloween Ball in New York (aka I-Itz M-My Party! Tour) went on sale today. So my buddy Ashley and I went to stand on line for six hours to get tickets. Luckily I knew someone up front, I know we're bad. I had brought my boom box with me, and some tapes. All day the people that let us on had my boom box, cuz damn they let me in, why not. So I finailly stood up and asked for it, and played my SG mix, aka Nadezhda's Motherfukin Greatest Hits (it's really not, it's like "my boys all mixed" up or something). So it was really cool, cuz this whole mass of me and my friends were singing along with most of the songs, I had to go solo on a coupla them. I thought it was really cool cuz they usually make fun of me for liking SG, but we all just chilled. Passers by heard 4th of July and cries of "Oh I remember this song! This shit is sooo bomb!" or something along the lines of that. A friend of mine, (one of the main big meanie teasers) got into a fifteen minute, or less, convo about how awsome a song Like Suicide was. Please keep in mind that I haven't updated this mix since last year, before I got Ultramega and Screaming Life. And when Jesus Christ Pose came on me and my buddy Ashley started to crack up cuz she rememberd what i told her about what Chris had said in Request about him hating rock stars in jcp's, and naming Perry Farrell as one of those types of rock stars. She started screaming it was blasphemy, and this led to an orgy of giggles. But we didn't tell no one, cuz the peeps on line were a lil looney about Jane's, so who knows what could have happened. heheh. Anyway. thanks for reading my ridiculousness. Take care, much luv, yadda yadda, fru fru, and all that jazz......... DeZHy "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 20:55:09 -0400 From: Jenna Freemon Subject: Re: A-sides...what joy ..sucks In a message dated 97-09-25 01:47:43 EDT, you write: << It really pisses me off when I see these posts about how people seem to hate BHS. It's a kick ass song >> This is like totally true to me. this is how i first loved SG and they have got me so obsessed that ive gotten some of there older albums. They all kick ass! Just because it is a song that people who know SG only because of it, does not mean it makes it a bad song. It's one of my favorites. With out this song I'm sure i would of never noticed anything about SG. Say what you want but this song ROCKS!!! Jenna :o) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 18:03:24 -0700 From: Jordan Snodgrass Subject: Re: how SG will be remembered > And what's really cool about Soundgarden is that they didn't write many, > IMO, totally annoying and embarassing songs like "I wanna hold your hand" > ,"8 days a week", "A Hard Day's Night" , and "Yellow Submarine" yet still > had an awesome variety. > Bill sorry for non-soundgarden, but the beatles deserve special privelages: Come on now Bill. You are showing some major cultural blindness here. You are judging these Beatles songs in a modern context, where they should be judged in their own. Back then, those types of songs were not "annoying and embarassing" , they were breakthrough styles and ultimately became THE way to write. Yes, perhaps now they are as you describe them, but back then they were the best! Keep in mind, in 30 years there will be people saying the same things you said about the Beatles in reguard to Soundgarden. I can see it now: "They didn't write many, IMO, totally annoying and embarassing songs like "Black Hole Sun," "Outshined," "Blow Up The Outside World," "Spoonman" yet still had an awesome variety." hee hee! -js "with a mischievious grin, look at him...." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 21:22:07 -0400 From: Sarah Bucolic Subject: Re: from the OFFICIAL website.....wow. In a message dated 97-09-26 02:55:10 EDT, Nahedgehog@AOL.COM (Nadezhda Ball) writes: << Personally I have not heard Bleed Together, because I usually have no money to buy all the singles as well as vinyls and side projects and bootlegs, so I rarely look for them, and just stick to the cds, although I do have a small, very small collection of 'em. But does that make me any less of a fan? Maybe a less fortunate one. >> I completely agree with you. I love Soundgarden, but I don't have the money to be able to get everything I want. I wish I had enough money to be able to get all the bootlegs, b-sides, imports, singles, vinyls.......etc. but I'm just not lucky like that. So I don't think that you could call a hardcore fan someone who buys all the SG stuff. Peace, love, and SG. Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 21:30:53 -0400 From: Jenna Freemon Subject: Re: from the OFFICIAL website.....wow. In a message dated 97-09-26 21:25:59 EDT, you write: << << Personally I have not heard Bleed Together, because I usually have no money to buy all the singles as well as vinyls and side projects and bootlegs, so I rarely look for them, and just stick to the cds, although I do have a small, very small collection of 'em. But does that make me any less of a fan? Maybe a less fortunate one. >> I completely agree with you. I love Soundgarden, but I don't have the money to be able to get everything I want. I wish I had enough money to be able to get all the bootlegs, b-sides, imports, singles, vinyls.......etc. but I'm just not lucky like that. So I don't think that you could call a hardcore fan someone who buys all the SG stuff. Peace, love, and SG. Sarah >> Hell this is all true to me too. I'm usually flat ass broke too. Not at all times though. When i do have have the money I go crazy on the SG stuff. Damn i really need to get a job! Jenna :o) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 21:24:52 -0500 From: William Flanders Subject: Re: how SG will be remembered At 06:03 PM 9/26/97 -0700, Jordan Snodgrass wrote: >> And what's really cool about Soundgarden is that they didn't write >many, >> IMO, totally annoying and embarassing songs like "I wanna hold your >hand" >> ,"8 days a week", "A Hard Day's Night" , and "Yellow Submarine" yet >still >> had an awesome variety. >> Bill > > sorry for non-soundgarden, but the beatles deserve special privelages: > > Come on now Bill. You are showing some major cultural blindness >here. You are judging these Beatles songs in a modern context, where >they should be judged in their own. Back then, those types of songs >were not "annoying and embarassing" , they were breakthrough styles and >ultimately became THE way to write. Yes, perhaps now they are as you >describe them, but back then they were the best! > Keep in mind, in 30 years there will be people saying the same things >you said about the Beatles in reguard to Soundgarden. I can see it now: Seems to me that you have chosen to worship the Beatles themselves, then to enjoy their music. I suppose you want me to put myself in the shoes of a 60s flower girl and re-experience these absurdly popular jingles? I have no reason to. And its not that I have no perspective about music from that time period. I love Creedence, the Doors, Orbison, etc. And I like classical. I think that the songs I mentioned are pretty much bad to me from any musical perspective/time. Since I'm not a member of the Church of John Lennon, I find it difficult to think that the same band that wrote "Let it Be" wrote "Eight Days a Week." There is Yin and Yang in everything, so it is with the Beatles. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 23:44:12 -0400 From: "Freer, Nicole A." Subject: Re: how SG will be remembered bill flanders wrote: > >Seems to me that you have chosen to worship the Beatles themselves, >then to enjoy their music. I suppose you want me to put myself in the >shoes of a 60s flower girl and re-experience these absurdly popular >jingles? I have no reason to. And its not that I have no perspective >about music from that time period. I love Creedence, the Doors, >Orbison, etc. And I like classical. I think that the songs I >mentioned are pretty much bad to me from any musical perspective/time. >Since I'm not a member of the Church of John Lennon, I find it >difficult to think that the same band that wrote "Let it Be" wrote >"Eight Days a Week." There is Yin and Yang in everything, so it is >with the Beatles. > >Bill okay, it's okay to talk beatles if you're somehow relating it to soundgarden (this is to jordan snodgrass as well) but you guys aren't. there's no need to get into why- i think you guys know by now. if you're going to argue about a band that is not soundgarden, keep it off the list... mind riot ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 26 Sep 1997 to 27 Sep 1997 ************************************************