Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 02:00:09 -0400 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 6 Sep 1997 to 7 Sep 1997 There are 30 messages totalling 1423 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. SOMMS T-shirt 2. compiliation 3. Nothing to say? (10) 4. Live at Moe 5. An attempt at intelligence (4) 6. BIMH single 7. Nothing to say/ 8. WWC 9. HB Kimmy! 10. Saying Nothing???? 11. This that and the other thing 12. A simple question. 13. The compilation is near... 14. 15. Seattle 97 16. Soundgarden Day (2) 17. Chris and Eleven To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 02:00:21 -0500 From: "John D." Subject: Re: SOMMS T-shirt Blockbuster music or video of all places can actually get you a copy. I used to work at one of the local Blockbuster videos and they have a catolog of diffrent movies that you can order out of. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 02:03:43 -0400 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: compiliation hello alll you beautiful sommsters, well i was talkin to mi amiga today (if you didn't delete the other post i had, it's that chic ashley, if yer interested) and well she said that our friend came back from europe with a french magazine. now this magazine was hooked up! it had a whole bunch of shit in it. one of the things that really stuck out in my mind, was an article on a soundgarden compilation. now i know that we all heard about it recently and that we all posted what we would like to hear on it before we heard about it, except for me, cuz i was really lazy that week. now here's the catch, see this is how they get ya, the magazine came out in june. now magazines are always printed a month earlier, i don't know how they do things in europe though, so let's assume that this was in may that they knew this. now what i wanna know is why the american public didn't know about this, and why the peeps that worship jerry lewis did, no offense to our french peeps props. i mean soundgarden is an american band, and we should have known about it first. i'm not sure about all this anyway, cuz i did not see the article for myself, and even if i did i would have no clue as to what it said, cuz it's in french. also i'm not sure if i'm likin this compilation thingie idea, i mean i love it, cuz it's gonna have rarites, right, please correct me if i'm wrong. but it just seems a lil too soon. i just see it as a&m makin out like bandits as soon as possible, cool for them cuz they get money, but it just seems a lil disrespectful to me. i guess i don't get it. i'm not gonna shoot my mouth off anymore, cuz i get the feelin that i might say somethin that some rep at a&m might see on the digest or somethin like that. okay, i'm gonna shut up now. sorry, no offense to anyone who took it. DeZHy "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:00:50 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: Nothing to say? Lance asked: >Does anyone besides me remember the day when there were actually adults on >the list and the strings had an intelligent bend to them? >****sigh**** Bonnie wrote: >We need these kinds of people/posts to make this list a worthwhile place >for information and friendly intelligent exchanges of Soundgarden news and >ideas. I suspect a lot of us are saying, "here, here", but that rather begs the question, "Why aren't we doing anything about it?", "*Can* we do anything about it?"or even "Should we?" It's something I have been discussing with sommsters off-list. There's a feeling of great affection for SOMMS, we want it to continue, but we only hang on in there in case we miss anything important. But we are not posting . Why? For example, I was surprised to see how comparatively few of us (new and old) responded to Seth's Greatest Hits thread, especially as Silver Management was doing the asking. (At least that was how I took it). Some people, Niki for instance, really rose to the challenge, but a lot of people didn't bother. I hate to say ' in the good old days' so I'll say a few months ago tons more sommsters would have written in. The most obvious argument is, Soundgarden is no longer a working band and apart from Ben and Matt's numerous Hater appearances and news of a couple of Chris tracks, there's currently nothing much there to keep the momentum going. *Especially* for those of us who have been on the list for more than a couple of months and have seemingly discussed everything we could possibly think of to do with the band. However, Rita (the sarcastic one ;-) tells me the Nirvana list is still going strong and full of intelligent posts. And I imagine Nirvana attracts a higher proportion of young subscribers than Soundgarden. So maybe that's not it. For many I think the break up of the band came to be some kind of turning point. Sure, some just drifted off, but others found it hard to come to terms with. Shroom did post a couple of months ago explaining how she really wanted to join in, but somehow her heart wasn't in it anymore. We should respect that, as much as we miss her hootchie ramblings. Others of us have had other shit to deal with since then that makes the split seem less devastating than it was when it happened. Then there's Rita's point that sommsters are not sharing information like they used to. A kind of sub-somms information network has evolved. Possibly it was always there. This is something that is bound to happen over time. Mailing lists (like anything else) evolve, move on. People make firm friends of others on the list and talk Soundgarden amongst themselves. The less they get involved with the list the more it becomes distant to them so they feel no obligation to it. I don't know if this *is* the case here - it's just my take on it. It was something that used to puzzle me/piss me off, but lately, unfortunately, I can see their point. Of course, none of the above explains why the majority of the current crop of posts is, to my mind, pretty inane. Nevertheless, if we are not prepared to make the effort to raise the level of posting (I include myself here) have we really any justifcation for complaint? UKDeb PS I was tempted to suggest that newer members look through the archives to see how things should be done! Then I remembered that our glorious past wasn't always quite as 'adult' and 'intelligent' as it could have been. But hell, at least it was lively :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 21:56:03 +0800 From: sabrina Subject: Live at Moe I just read this somewhere, and since I don't remember anyone mentioning this upcoming release, I thought I'd just paste this: ------------------ Various Artists: Live at Moe Vol. One (World Domination) Twelve live tracks recorded at Seattle's now-defunct nightspot Moe. Contributors include Pond, Gus, Critters Buggin', Goodness, Gruntruck, and the Presidents of the United States of America (performing a cover of Soundgarden's "Spoonman"). ------------------- This compilation is supposed to be released Sept 23, so if you can't wait for something new from any SG members, maybe this is something to look forward to. sabrina ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:50:34 -0400 From: Lance Huber Subject: An attempt at intelligence OK Sommsters here's a thread about something I've been debating in my mind for the past few weeks. How do we feel about Chris Cornell appearing on "A Very Special Christmas III"??? I keep going back and forth. I admit that since the break-up of the band I'm so desperate for them to keep recording music, that I was initially excited just because I'd have something new from the voice of CC. However............... Many of you old SOMMSters will remember that last year at X-mas I swore I'd kill myself if Soundgarden "EVER" put out a Christmas album. That coupled with the fact that the Very Special Xmas compilations are so damned tacky to begin with.... I am having really mixed emotions. I want new material from Chris, (I can't wait for 'Great Expectations') but a fucking Chrismas album? Come on. I pray in my darkest hearts of hearts that the man is only killing time before he makes his move into something more inventive and industrious. Those of you young-newbies who take this post as an attack on Chris, beware. I love Chris Cornell. As a writer I think he is a God and the same goes for his musical talents, I just don't think Ave Maria is exactly his strongest avenue for expression. But regardless, I will be standing at Blockbuster with my face pressed against the glass on the morning of October 7, 1997, waiting for the UPS man to arrive with the first CD shipment of "A Very Special Christmas III" God I'm pathetic aren't I? (c: Lance "Everything I say is what I mean" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 12:39:40 -0400 From: Maria Joseph Subject: Re: An attempt at intelligence I think that it'll definitely be a change from the usual things we hear from Chris and even the other members.. Chris and a Christmas album.. Seems strange, but I am happy that it was done.. and not just because we all get to hear something from a Soundgarden member, but because on Christmas morning I will get to hear Chris Cornell singing Ave Maria to my family. It would be the greatest feeling. Every little thing makes Christmas either a good time or a bad time.. and if I start the morning, after being hassled to go back to bed :) , off with Chris singing, I'd feel great. I've never done that before because I got my first SG albums last Christmas, so I of course popped them in that morning after opening my gifts.. I had to wait a helluva long time before I got them because my parents told me (months prior to Christmas) that I couldn't buy anymore cd's and that if I wanted them I'd have to put them on lay-a-way till Christmas.. this was like months and months away and I thought that sucked! So hearing SG that morning was kewl :) Then after Christmas I made my 'rents pay for making me having to wait for months to listen to my cd's, by using their money to buy most of the albums that came out "back in the day"... And I bet they are still loving it :) Sorry to invade you with my Christmas story, it just happened.. so back to what i was originally saying.. This Christmas I when I'm up extra early and everyone is sleeping.. I've got three things to do instead of staring at my gifts for 5 hours until everyone wakes up: I can listen to my Soundgarden cd's, I can say good morning to you all and check out the list, and.. I can listen to Chris singing Ave Maria.. Now I understand it when everyone starts thinking on these terms: Let's say Soundgarden is physically together and THEN as a whole they put out this "Soundgarden Says Merry Christmas" album for everyone to hear. Now, in this case I would understand it when people would think that it's the most weirdest and maybe even sickest thing to do.. Yeah, it would be quite unusual to listen to or to accept, but hell, won't we ALL go out and buy it? Even if we don't celebrate Christmas? If Soundgarden made this album for Hanukkah then I'd go and buy it :) And we all know why we would :) So mixed emotions is understandable.. Ok, guys. For once I responded to threads like these that envolved thought :) Keep it goin'.. Kick Ass Bunchypants ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 12:55:38 -0500 From: "John D." Subject: Re: Nothing to say? I for one belive that there have been a good number of intelligent post that have been made that none have responded to. Now I may be missing the point of the post, but just because there are new members it doesn't mean that the list is going to the trash heap. SOMMS has provided me with a fresh supply of great news about Soundgarden. About hte song list, I for one didn't post one because you all(SOMMsters whom posted one) gave such a cmplete list that there was no need for me to post one of my own. I know for a fact that there was a load of feed back from each song list. I've been a SOMMS member for a little under 6 months, this doesn't mean that I just started liking Soundgarden, it just mean that I never had a my own mail client, and I finally got a decent ISP. Iwas gretted to this list with a great sense of community between fellow fans and I sure would hate to lose that. -John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 12:59:54 -0500 From: "John D." Subject: Re: An attempt at intelligence What's wrong with a Christmas album? Don't you think you are being a tad harsh? I mean shit, those damned religous holidays are such a bitch. I thought it was really cool that Chris Cornell was playing such a beautiful song. They even played the damn song at my parents wedding! I also realize you are entitled to your own thoughts. -John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 13:07:07 -0500 From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: BIMH single Date sent: 6-SEP-1997 13:04:38 Hey, all, Last night I found myself a copy of the Burden in my Hand single, backed with Karaoke. This is the first time I've had a chance to hear Karaoke and I was really impressed. Too bad they didn't turn THIS into a single. It was amazing that I found the disc, too, because you can't find anything this far north, especially with all the low quality record shops. Later, Mike ******************************************************************** If music were literature... Pop = A greeting card Rap = A pulp novel Metal = A scientific treatise on the evolution of Swahilian termites Grunge = T.S. Eliot, Blake, Shakespeare... ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 01:20:24 -1200 From: Kris Subject: Nothing to say/ Hi everyone! Just wanted to tell you that I have nothing to say today, but I can take what you've been pushing. Oh, yeah. And thanks to everyone who said it was Kim. I didn't see him pitch the ball, but my friend says it was way over Randy's head. He has it on tape I guess. Kris Hermansen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 14:10:08 -0400 From: Mike Smith Subject: Re: Nothing to say? Lance asked: >Does anyone besides me remember the day when there were actually adults on >the list and the strings had an intelligent bend to them? >****sigh**** Bonnie wrote: >We need these kinds of people/posts to make this list a worthwhile place >for information and friendly intelligent exchanges of Soundgarden news and >ideas. I suspect a lot of us are saying, "here, here", but that rather begs the question, "Why aren't we doing anything about it?", "*Can* we do anything about it?"or even "Should we?" It's something I have been discussing with sommsters off-list. There's a feeling of great affection for SOMMS, we want it to continue, but we only hang on in there in case we miss anything important. But we are not posting .. Why? For example, I was surprised to see how comparatively few of us (new and old) responded to Seth's Greatest Hits thread, especially as Silver Management was doing the asking. (At least that was how I took it). Some people, Niki for instance, really rose to the challenge, but a lot of people didn't bother. I hate to say ' in the good old days' so I'll say a few months ago tons more sommsters would have written in. The most obvious argument is, Soundgarden is no longer a working band and apart from Ben and Matt's numerous Hater appearances and news of a couple of Chris tracks, there's currently nothing much there to keep the momentum going. *Especially* for those of us who have been on the list for more than a couple of months and have seemingly discussed everything we could possibly think of to do with the band. However, Rita (the sarcastic one ;-) tells me the Nirvana list is still going strong and full of intelligent posts. And I imagine Nirvana attracts a higher proportion of young subscribers than Soundgarden. So maybe that's not it. For many I think the break up of the band came to be some kind of turning point. Sure, some just drifted off, but others found it hard to come to terms with. Shroom did post a couple of months ago explaining how she really wanted to join in, but somehow her heart wasn't in it anymore. We should respect that, as much as we miss her hootchie ramblings. Others of us have had other shit to deal with since then that makes the split seem less devastating than it was when it happened. Then there's Rita's point that sommsters are not sharing information like they used to. A kind of sub-somms information network has evolved. Possibly it was always there. This is something that is bound to happen over time. Mailing lists (like anything else) evolve, move on. People make firm friends of others on the list and talk Soundgarden amongst themselves. The less they get involved with the list the more it becomes distant to them so they feel no obligation to it. I don't know if this *is* the case here - it's just my take on it. It was something that used to puzzle me/piss me off, but lately, unfortunately, I can see their point. Of course, none of the above explains why the majority of the current crop of posts is, to my mind, pretty inane. Nevertheless, if we are not prepared to make the effort to raise the level of posting (I include myself here) have we really any justifcation for complaint? UKDeb PS I was tempted to suggest that newer members look through the archives to see how things should be done! Then I remembered that our glorious past wasn't always quite as 'adult' and 'intelligent' as it could have been. But hell, at least it was lively :-) ****************************************************************************** ******************** Ok, but what exactly is the problem? what are the older sommsters, the vets, the forefaters of somms complaining about? this sounds like whining to me......(and i dont care how many posts i get about this. is it the.............. 1. kiddies comenting how they were able to tie a verse of *burden in my hand* into there history essay? 2. how one of there friends at school said "soundgarden sucks" and they had to go to the school nurse because they were so upset they had to call home. 3.or how about...."i had this dream where me and chris and ben and kim and lassie and superman were in my front room when robert plant walks in and suggests a reunion tour, then chris turns to me and asks if i wouldnt mind doing back up vocals." 4. or one of my favorites so far..........people professing there undieing love for there significant other, then at the end of the post mentioning how much they love the soloing in black hole sun. i guess to some it up, im not on either side. the useless posters, or the vets, im just here to keep up on sg happenings, and mabey do an ocasional trade. when i click on a post about shit, i just hit delete. but thats just me, i know there are sommsters out there who just love reading about all that stuff.... think about it realisticly, this is a public posting list, and unless there is an entrence exam, you are gonna get people posting stuff that doesnt appeal to all audiences (my post for example). thats just the kinda shit that happens when you give eight hundred people the freedom to wright about what ever they want with refrence to a very lose subject. mike. "bring it on" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 11:25:28 -0700 From: Bonnie Subject: Re: Nothing to say? I wrote: > >We need these kinds of people/posts to make this list a worthwhile place > >for information and friendly intelligent exchanges of Soundgarden news and > >ideas. And Deborah replied: > I suspect a lot of us are saying, "here, here", but that rather begs the > question, "Why aren't we doing anything about it?" Yes, it does actually beg that question and a thanks should be given to you for bringing it up. As to why we aren't doing something about it...again, I can't speak for others here (or those who have now left somms). They all must have their own reasons. I was never one to start the wonderfully thought out threads. I did my best to reply to ones I thought I could, while offering something worthwhile at the same time...all depending on the nature of the thread. I'm better at maybe less than serious stuff, although I do think I had an introspective period a few weeks back and thought it might have been reflected in what I was writing. Apparently I touched a chord with a couple other list-members who were kind enough to let me know how my words made them feel. I deeply appreciated hearing that. I'm also a kind of shy person and it sometimes takes a lot for me to throw myself or feelings out for everyone to read. In the past I've done my best to not sound like an idiot and so yes, I've held back many, many times with things I might otherwise have responded or contributed to. I also ponder my words, over-analyze them and re-read them (for the most part) long and hard and sometimes, damn me, felt like I let too much time pass for them to be relevant without being just old news or other's words rehashed. That's my own fault, that hesitancy of mine. >"*Can* we do anything about it? Yes, IMHO, *I* believe we can!!!! > "or even "Should we?" Again, MHO, but fuck yeah, I think we should! > It's something I have been discussing with sommsters off-list. There's a > feeling of great affection for SOMMS, we want it to continue, but we only > hang on in there in case we miss anything important. But we are not posting > . Why? I've heard the same thing from others off-list. I hear what they're saying, but giving up just doesn't' seem like a good enough answer for me. I mentioned how I'd met some great people in the last few months *after* SG disbanded. I don't feel you can just discredit the entire list and the people on it for how things have changed in the last couple months. It happens, shit *does* happen, but that's life. But also, it doesn't' mean you have to take it lying down either. Ummm....what's that song? Help me out here guys, because I think you know it... I think it's turning back around And I think I like it I think it's turning back around Though I don't know why it is I think it's turning back on me I'm down on the upside I think it's turning back on me Now I'm on the good ride And nothing's gonna put me out It's backing down and under I'm down on the upside now It's turning back around Turning back around I think it's coming on the wind Just like you said it I think it's coming on the wind And I'm gonna let it I think it's turning back on me Everything's easy I think it's turning back on me Everything's real to me Okay, okay...I *know* I didn't have to post the whole damn song...but I felt like it! :))) And maybe I felt like we might have needed to hear the words again, lest we forget. As always, speaking for myself...that's the way I live; have *had* to live and still maintain some sense of reality and sanity. Life can suck the big one and I feel as though I can speak from some sense of "authority" to that issue. But...I rarely tend to give up on anything. And it pretty much seems as though the more difficult and impossible it (whatever that may be) is, the harder I try and more determined I become to make it work or get something good out of it or to just keep that positive attitude. I suppose if even...what? Half to a quarter of us were to take on this list with that same type of initiative and drive, it'd probably be a different looking place quite soon. And I mean, it's our list. We all (and for that much loved disclaimer go ahead and say at least most of us) sought it out, turned to it when we needed it, got much fun, information, support, help and whatever it was that we were looking for and we loved it. I, for one, feel it's important enough to me to try to help maintain it. I've met some fantastic people and friends here and don't think that has to stop. I've still learned things and found valuable information here since SG disbanded. It does not have to end, it does not have to disintegrate before it blows away and we don't have to let it! Eeee gads!!!! Do I sound like a damned cheerleader here???? :) Hmmm...guess my (long lost-not) youth is catching up with me now, then. Anyway, my thoughts on that one... > The most obvious argument is, Soundgarden is no longer a working band and > apart from Ben and Matt's numerous Hater appearances and news of a couple > of Chris tracks, there's currently nothing much there to keep the momentum > going. *Especially* for those of us who have been on the list for more than > a couple of months and have seemingly discussed everything we could > possibly think of to do with the band. > > However, Rita (the sarcastic one ;-) tells me the Nirvana list is still > going strong and full of intelligent posts. Exactly!!! The ending of the band does not have to end the conversations, the speculations, the obsessions...you name it! "And the band played on..." > For many I think the break up of the band came to be some kind of turning > point. Sure, some just drifted off, but others found it hard to come to > terms with. Shroom did post a couple of months ago explaining how she > really wanted to join in, but somehow her heart wasn't in it anymore. We > should respect that, as much as we miss her hootchie ramblings. Others of > us have had other shit to deal with since then that makes the split seem > less devastating than it was when it happened. I sincerely respect other's reasons for being less present on the list if for the ones mentioned above. As I said before, while I was never the most prolific "poster", the shit I've dealt with since the split caused me to hibernate for quite some time, not only from posting to the list but from keeping in contact with close friends I've made. But I never turned away from the list (or my friends either). It was still something I had to at least glance whenever I got the chance. I at least needed that much, for it was all I had at the time. > Then there's Rita's point that sommsters are not sharing information like > they used to. A kind of sub-somms information network has evolved. Possibly > it was always there. This is something that is bound to happen over time. > Mailing lists (like anything else) evolve, move on. People make firm > friends of others on the list and talk Soundgarden amongst themselves. The > less they get involved with the list the more it becomes distant to them so > they feel no obligation to it. I don't know if this *is* the case here - > it's just my take on it. It was something that used to puzzle me/piss me > off, but lately, unfortunately, I can see their point. I agree that splinter groups and such will and do happen. No surprise there, like you said. People make friends, talk to each, meet, etc. I guess some do feel that the list has or had given them all they needed out of it and moved on, whatever. I guess that's why they're no longer here and we are. I never felt that need to leave the list behind. Even though I've made my friends, met them and I love the hell out of them!!!....I still owe all of that to this list and maybe at times the list became distant to me (or I became distant to the list) but that's the ebb and flow we all (again most maybe?) tend to go through. That's cool, I can understand and deal with that. And yeah, there were times when I found not much useful came out of the list...at the time I was not in the position to be "cheerleader of the day", but I didn't walk away from it either. I just figured, "This too will pass." And it still can... > Of course, none of the above explains why the majority of the current crop > of posts is, to my mind, pretty inane. Nevertheless, if we are not prepared > to make the effort to raise the level of posting (I include myself here) > have we really any justifcation for complaint? So true, Deb! I'm not sure I recall myself complaining a whole lot, at least I didn't think so publicly. Of course I thought there were times of stagnation...you made that point also of how lists evolve and change. It's like a whole loop, and it goes through stages. But the mood, topics that are brought up and discussed and the whole essence of the list seems as though it can be either guided, led or somehow shaped again. At least I think it can. I've never been on any other list, but I've heard others speak of them and also how, if no one chooses to pick it back up, it most definitely can decay to a point worthy of little to save. > PS I was tempted to suggest that newer members look through the archives to > see how things should be done! Then I remembered that our glorious past > wasn't always quite as 'adult' and 'intelligent' as it could have been. But > hell, at least it was lively :-) Thanks again Deb!! You just brought up all the great points...so see??? All I'm *really* doing is rehashing your words, but at *least* I'm doing it right away rather than waiting a week or more!! :))) Old habits can be broken! But yeah, I even fondly remember those days...where posts of the day seemed to crash and burn into an endless stream of petty flames...ahhh, but that kept the ire up as well! What a bunch of witty, sarcastic, condescending folks!!! :) And ya know, for the most part, this list attracts articulate, successful, sensitive and highly intelligent people, just like the band we know and love called Soundgarden. I maintain...we are a breed apart. We are special and let's hope our mailing list known as SOMMS can help to reflect that... Bonnie (and please, for those of you who feel i may have sounded too sappy and all that with a big bag of chips...well, then...bring out the Haggen Daz cause it could have been a *lot* worse!) :) AND...if it sounds like crap or doesn't make sense or whatever...i've been up all night and i only read through it ONCE!!!! i know, it's pretty damn amazing, even to myself. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 14:30:17 EDT From: seth Subject: Re: An attempt at intelligence > What's wrong with a Christmas album? Don't you think you are being a tad > harsh? I mean shit, those damned religous holidays are such a bitch. I > thought it was really cool that Chris Cornell was playing such a > beautiful song. They even played the damn song at my parents wedding! I > also realize you are entitled to your own thoughts. I think a lot of people are't really aware of what the Ave Maria is, and the fact that you can't just perform "it," as if there were ONE musical version. If you've heard "it" before, you may have heard "it" (Biblical passages about the Virgin Mary + other stuff added in the 15th century = what we know as Ave Maria) as a motet in Latin by Josquin in roughly 1476; or the Bach-Gounod version, with the music from the first prelude in Bach's Well-Tempered Klavier beneath Gounod's Meditation as the counterpoint; or more likely, Schubert's version (which was in the movie Needful Things, if anyone saw that) which is actually a setting of the German translation of a poem by Walter Scott. So for there to be any real way to tell what Chris Cornell's version will be like is impossible. Will he modify one of the existing versions so that Eleven plays the accompaniment? Will it be just vocal? Will it be entirely different than any of the other settings? The fact is that the Ave Maria is prayer text with an infinite combination of other things attached -- so Mr. Cornell has the freedom to write any music he chooses, to make any lyrical additions he wants and to sing it in any language he pleases. Summary: he's got big shoes to fill. I for one am looking forward to seeing how he does it. -seth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 14:28:04 -0400 From: Deborah Servey Subject: Re: Nothing to say? I'm one of the vets who's as guilty as any for not doing nearly as much posting as I used to. Why? Interesting question to analyze. Lately my reaction to some of what has been going on is "Gawd, get a life, who cares about a .03 second overlap or what Chris and the guys drink..." or whatever the flavor of the day is. Simply, some of it is too inane to comment on. Not saying that to be nasty at anyone, jsut saying some of it is simply inane. RE: the not sharing info...I found out damned fast there's a clique on this list who thinks only they have any real info to share, so why bother? But you bet there's a general feeling that there's some sort of little inner circle posting stuff going on! RE: posting Sgarden dreams...that's one of those "get real" things...I read the first line and hit delete. It's my perogative, it's the perogative of everyone on this list. Should we do anything about the quality of posting? No, how can we? This is still a free country, this is a public list. Seth once said he doesn't feel it's a community....the hell it isn't! Look at some of the stuff that gets posted and you'll see we think of each other as some sort of family or a circle of friends in the very least. I stick around b/c I have made some good friends thru this list. Sure, it's not at all what it used to be, but I'd miss it if it was gone. It is still a place to post info--look at all the articles some of us have posted (I was so thrilled when I found one I could post!! *grin*)--and it's a place to come and discuss the music, etc. What I'm finding tho is that I am beginning to feel sorry for people who have only an interest in Sgarden and nothing else. Been there, done that w/ another band and when I finally began to discover other music, I felt like a whole world had opened up to me. Would it be possible to do things like that to pump fresh interest into the list? As for not responding the the greatest hits thing......I bet if someonme let us know our ideas would be seriously considered you'd get more response. Those who were interested in the initial chatter about it jumped right in and I saw alot of good ideas. Seth, was it a serious thing or a fantasy thing? Well, there I had something to say.....discussion? ciao.....deb > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 14:40:01 -0400 From: Catherine Veit Subject: Re: Nothing to say? i support john's post by saying that yes, it's true, i haven't been a member of somms since the dawning of time, but despite what everyone might think, it doesn't mean my respect for sg started w/ black hole sun. i've been a devoted fan for years and the only reason i didn't join earlier was because i didn't have aol. yes, i was a late bloomer for that as well, that's just the way i am. LAZY....... so i began to skim through some posts from the past and got interested. the fact of the matter is i joined 'cause i thought that i would receive better info from fellow fans than from mtv news. i have a lot of regrets, but i don't regret joining regardless of when i started. -catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 14:42:10 EDT From: seth Subject: Re: Nothing to say? Deb Servey wrote: > As for not responding the the greatest hits thing......I bet if someonme > let us know our ideas would be seriously considered you'd get more > response. Those who were interested in the initial chatter about it jumped > right in and I saw alot of good ideas. Seth, was it a serious thing or a > fantasy thing? It was a serious question; I was asked by the management to ask for your opinions. I did not suggest it to them, and it hardly seems as though they would have asked if they didn't plan to consider them. I did forward them all along to the appropriate places, so it's out of our hands now. My opinion? The things that were suggested were most likely a bit far-fetched. Much as I think the notion of four separate records, each one created in its entirety by one of the band members, would be wonderful, let's not convince ourselves that it might actually happen. Will there be b-sides and such on the record, things other than just album tracks? Probably. Will there be any unreleased material on it? Who knows? Guess we'll just have to wait and find out. :) -seth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 15:45:33 -0400 From: Charlie Mccutcheon Subject: WWC HELLO! here's some quality posting for ya! 1) i found SKIN YARD their first record (i guess 1986). matt really stands out among them. 2) found an article in a local (cool) paper about WWC. in it matt discloses that his drums were sampled by prodigy's producer at the big day out in aus. he says he's also going techno. 3) when i find out how, i'll send it to seth to put w/ the other articles. for all to read. 4) what about karaoke being track 16.5/17 on dotu? thanks charlie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 13:03:41 -0700 From: Bonnie Subject: Re: Nothing to say? Mike (Gardner166@AOL.COM) added to this budding discussion: > (and i dont care how many posts i get about this. is it > the.............. > > 1. kiddies comenting how they were able to tie a verse of *burden in my hand* > into there history essay? No, that's not it...this has been done forever... > 2. how one of there friends at school said "soundgarden sucks" and they had > to go to the school nurse because they were so upset they had to call home. Nope, that's not it either...this is one of the major bonding points most of us SG fans have...:) > 3.or how about...."i had this dream where me and chris and ben and kim and > lassie and superman were in my front room when robert plant walks in and > suggests a reunion tour, then chris turns to me and asks if i wouldnt mind > doing back up vocals." Really no on this one!! Dreams have been shared for as long as I recall (not that they are the most well received of posts, and yes...I'm guilty of including a few of my own...nah, only two...and not at a time when I was being most aware of my idiot status...and that term and qualification was of my *own* doing, of myself against myself, not done by others, at least not publicly (thanks guys) on the list... > 4. or one of my favorites so far..........people professing there undieing > love for there significant other, then at the end of the post mentioning how > much they love the soloing in black hole sun. Ya know...this just *might* be a new one...although *******speaking for myself only here******* it wouldn't be enough still... > i guess to some it up, im not on either side. the useless posters, or the > vets, im just here to keep up on sg happenings, and mabey do an ocasional > trade. when i click on a post about shit, i just hit delete. but thats just > me, i know there are sommsters out there who just love reading about all that > stuff.... Agreed, agreed. I guess I wasn't absolutely aware we were "on sides." And, in fact, I tried to find in your post where it presented a for this side/for that side kind of reference. Not obvious to me, but if there is one, I'm sure someone will point it out to me (ahhh...just like I know my friendly and helpful sommsters are capable of). For myself, in response to the thread I was reading, I thoughts and feelings to share in response and did just that. I guess if it's to be a "sides" kind of thing though, well then, I usually try to lean toward things that seem to have some sort of relevance, a thought-out point or question, humor, wit...oh you know, *those* kinds of things, while at the same time, all having a SG related bent. Which would be, for the most part and if I'm not mistaken here, what might follow along the guidelines for this mailing as handed down by none other than the List Admin, Seth. If you saw this thread taking the form of a choosing sides kind of thing, well then, I'll go ahead and speak theoretically here, and say I would find myself on the side where, for the most part (because every one needs to deviate some now evil grin included and then don't kick me too hard seth) the list rules are generally followed, but some slight rebellious undertones thrown in for liveliness. > think about it realisticly, this is a public posting list, and unless there > is an entrence exam, you are gonna get people posting stuff that doesnt > appeal to all audiences (my post for example). thats just the kinda shit that > happens when you give eight hundred people the freedom to wright about what > ever they want with refrence to a very lose subject. And I haven't heard anyone really dispute this most common fact. Obviously it's going to happen. Doesn't mean it has to be the majority of postings a day, but even when it is, it happens. Like all your points above which you presume mean some folks are complaining and whining...those kinds of posts have come and gone, will continue to arrive; they are nothing new. What I read in a post you saw as complaining and whining, I read what sounded a lot like reminiscing maybe and missing some old friends. Just like I did, thinking back on some major flame wars...which BTW, Mike, yours would have been an *excellent* specimen for dissection by the likes of Shroom, Grote, Caryn and I'm sorry to have left out esteemed others who were delightfully talented in that way. And, as you've obviously noted by now, I haven't gotten to that caliber as the noteworthy individuals aforementioned...but it is good to have mentors and goals! :) > mike > "bring it on" Sorry Mike, I just couldn't really muster up to the "bring it on" level. I just feel slightly accomplished to have come this far...to actually have posted a reply. Do I surprise anyone else out there? Ummmm...but jeez, you know what??? I've practically gone and done broken the list guidelines!!! I'll be the first to say it, "Damn me straight to hell!!" (in loving memory of Shroom...may she get well soon...a hootchie such as she I will never be...but I'm learning how to flaunt what I got a whole lot better since you last saw me Shroomie, if you're out there!!! :))) Soo...more SG'eny stuff...I think I may have impressed Ben the other night. No, rephrase, not really impressed as in, "My, she's an impressive woman." Maybe more along the lines of made an impression, or just made a neat little fool out of myself. I only say this cause I think he thought maybe I was sort of funny...hard to tell with that grin of his. But, I must say (not to honk my horn too loudly) I can fucking cuss with the best (or the worst - I'll go either way :)) of them, smoke up a storm and throw back maybe just a couple (hah!) too many drinks for my own good cuz I've always had to keep up (started far too long ago but a good excuse was in college we'd split cases, fifths, 12-paks, etc. monetarily and I was gonna be goddamned if anyone else was gonna drink my half just cause they were a guy and could drink more faster and thought they'd scam up as much of my half as they could!) and...well let me get off that tangent (hoping not to have offended anyone) but I imagine I displayed enough of this, and me, being less than 5'2" and now weighing in at lean fighting 96 pounds! And maybe that's why he thought I was funny...little short shit, sounding like a logger, I just dunno. But I'd still tell him to his face not to fucking give me any shit if I felt so inclined. I have done it to bigger, more bad-ass guys...and maybe I was sarcastic to him too, but I didn't go that far. But really, someone said I had their curiosity up when I said I was a little put off by his comment...I guess what bothered me was I met him in Chicago, for my second time. I think four of us from Seattle were all standing and talking to Ben. He asked if we had been to Hater or something (someone correct me...) and we all said yes...I think I mentioned to Ben how we had met outside the OK after the Halloween show and he said, "Oh yeah, outside by the van before I left for the ferry?" I said yes. Well, that's when the List Thug also Ben that I was the one passed out on the stage at Hater, and he looked at me and nods and said "Oh yeah." And that Ben would know Aaron, they've done stuff together. I don't know if he just didn't click with the comments about Halloween and meeting him outside, or meeting him in Chicago and Aaron telling him about me, or that he said he didn't know who Aaron was but it was like everything I said he's like, "No, no, no...you know, there are people out there who will say all kinds of things about someone in my position." But what exactly was that comment directed at? I *did* meet him at the OK, I *was* in the dressing room in Chicago, met him again, heard Aaron's and Ben's comments, and from what I know, he and Aaron have hung out. Now, maybe he forgets all these things because they are all so incidental to him, which was where I was left sitting pondering that thought. So I was fairly disheartened at that moment...but in my usual Bonnie-form, thought, "Fuck no, I'm not gonna let his comments bum me out in any way...he's the one full of shit!" So I laughed to myself, grinned and got happy and went on to meet a very interesting woman named Patty and Brian Wood joined us at our table (whom you all know is a former member of Hater and most recently joined their set on September 1st at Bumbershoot) and we all shot the shit. So, sorry for repeating, didn't want to get in too much trouble so I added extra SG/Hater/Ben references to try and redeem myself. :) Bonnie and...I still love Ben...shit happens...:)! *yes, I will shut the fuck up now* and I still am a member of the KTMS, if I should need any disciplining... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 16:00:44 -0500 From: NIKI FREER Subject: HB Kimmy! hey kimbo! sorry this is late, you know how college goes! Happy 37th big guy! i hope you had a good one!!! other than that, hey sommsters! college is driving my batty and i'mhome again for an overnight stay in my own room. ahhhh luxury! = ) anyways, I picked up a (new?) SG boot yesterday. called Mega Sounds. it's from the ontario Lolla... sound quality VERY good. this thing is DAMN good sound quality. oh, and they perform FLOWER. = ) that was extremely exciting and a reason i got it. and another reason is because it doesn't have My Wave on it! don't get me wrong, i like the song, but it just seems to crap out more often than not in live performances. i've heard some damned great versions of it, but i've heard plenty more crappy ones. so that was a major influence. AND they called BIMH Burning in my hand. = ) thought it was silly. chris quotes so far: "Hey! Welcome to the shrine of beer!" more info later, and please don't ask me to tape it for you, i'm in over my head with schoolwork. sorry! maybe in the christmas break... mind riot ____ there must be something else there must be something good far away...far away from here... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOUNDGARDEN 1984-1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 15:17:40 -0500 From: tonerkin Subject: Saying Nothing???? The state of this list is a subject that I can remember being debated between sommsters at various stages in it's life the past two years. There have been flame wars so hot I thought with each passing post the sprinkler system in my house would be activated. There have been enough lame post sent to keep Jesus busy performing miracles for a millennium(some of mine included I know!) and there have been enough words written by Seth getting us back on track for one thing or another to fill up pages for his dissertation(if he ever decided to write one.) BUTT there have also been many connections made between people, hundreds of tapes and videos traded, beers hoisted between strangers who were now friends, valuable information passed along and even a marriage and maybe two! The list is worth saving as long as our love of Soundgarden continues. I know many people who have given up and gotten off the list but every one that has written to me since leaving asks; "How is SOMMS doing?" We have made it the list it is and we will continue to do so. If if has gone stale that is "our" fault. Maybe we have covered topics before but we have many new heads here that might have different ideas on the subject. Maybe we need another project to plan. Just look how lively the planning stages of the tee shirt were and the uproar with Nothingman. (It sucked but it wasn't boring was it?) Maybe we just need to continue to communicate with one another and listen to some Soundgarden and each other with fresh ears. Hell, we could always start fighting again...Someone say something really inflammatory :o > Many of you old SOMMSters will remember that last year at X-mas I swore I'd >kill myself if Soundgarden "EVER" put out a Christmas album. Lance....RELAX it's not Soundgarden putting out a Christmas album. It's Chris singing a truly beautiful song for charity!!!! toni ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 13:28:30 -0700 From: Ken Casey Subject: This that and the other thing Whoa! I was just reading those posts on Kim at the Mariners game (of all the days for me not to watch!) and I just realized I had a dream about being in a car with Kim and waving to RAndy as he drove by... weird. Must have been that I was messing around with Alive in teh Superunkown for way too long last night... I finally got it to work on my computer (After almost a year!) so which Superunknown video do you like? I was surprised to see that there were three of them... I like the one where you start of in outer space.. its pretty cool.. Anyway, I supose I should respond to some of these threads: I'm glad to see Chris is putting out some stuff so soon, but I had real mixed emotions. I dont really feel one way or another about Ave Maria the song, I just find it weird that Chris would do that. But hey, he's his own man. Another thing is after listening to the 'verteran listers' I have to agree that the list is kind of slowing down. When I first got on here, what.. almost a year and a half ago now(!), it was some heated conversation. Man did the flames fly. Not that I'm saying we need flames to keep the list going, it's just I guess that there really isn't all that much stuff to talk about lately, after "that day". Or maybe it's we lost some of our real old listers... we dont have any more psycho and hilarious posts from Shroomy.. and everyone I used to know has kinda disappeared. Someoen needs to think up a good thread quick! Anyway... that's my ramblings for the time being. Oh- Rachel!! Where are you?! You disapeared on me! >=T Arden Sun God (Laurie) "Is that a FORK on your neck?" -the only thing anyone at school has said to me in the past four days. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 16:36:45 -0500 From: NIKI FREER Subject: Re: Nothing to say? Oh lord! hey, sommsters- did we ever have a long post of the week award? No? i don't think so... well, i'm going to iniate one right now and give it to Bonnie! Not only did she just post the longest post I've seen in about a month, it was also very funny, intelligent and all the other things we're been bitching about lately! i'm sorry this is an idiot post, but hey- who cares? Rhinosaur- Lord, this is the strangest version of Rhinosaur i have ever heard!!!! this boot i just bought was definately worth my cash... oh, and the slowest version of BHS solo i've ever heard... and cc's voice did a little turn on him in Let Me Drown, so he hits the "seal my tomb without my face" notes lower than usual, and he is growling really oddly in Mailman right now... hmmm, i suspect vodka has something to do with this... chris quote: "yeah, i was just doing crack in the back with perry farrell..." mind riot ____ there must be something else there must be something good far away...far away from here... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOUNDGARDEN 1984-1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 13:40:11 -0700 From: Ken Casey Subject: A simple question. Does anyone have a full version on the DotU world premiere broadcast? I was right in the middle of writing it up so I could send the thing to Seth when I found out my tape screwed! One of my friends taped over the first half of it and I'm really pissed! So if anyone has a copy they're willing to send me.. I'd do just about anything for it! Laurie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 23:14:07 +0200 From: Ignacio Priego Horcas Subject: The compilation is near... I felt very excited when i subscribed to this list and saw the copilation thread. But finally, i found out that wasn't an official thing. But i'm starting to think somthing serious is going on on the heads of a&m people. First, some of you start sending articles talking about this project. Then Seth says that somebody asked him to make this thing. Now, i read from Nazhezda and says something read on a french article. Now, here's my contribution: one day you can't see anything from SG in the stores and, suddenly, the next day, Louder appears in Spain. But there's more, then appears Ultramega and even Screaming Life/Fopp (i bought it here, in Spain), and lots of new and old SG things are available. What should i think now? It's very strange to me; i spent a lot of hours trying to find SG stuff, and now they're everywhere. Too suspicious. Maybe they are just trying to make a market in here, they are thinking how they could make a legend bout SG, i don't know, and maybe (i hope) they are trying to prepare the market for the new SG release... who knows? I really like to thinks i'm correct. And i hope that won't be a compilation, i'd prefer smthng like Nirvana's Incesticide, strange material, you know, but if it is goinf to make a popular band from SG, i'll be OK with anything (that not necesarily means i'm gonna buy it, i'm not gonna spend my money on something i've already got). What can we do now? Just sit and pray. Nacho Priego - Alive in the SpanishUnknown ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 22:50:57 +0200 From: Ignacio Priego Horcas Subject: Re: Nothing to say? Here we go again. The first thing we have to consider is: this list is alive. It's working, it's moving, there are people interested in SG. And we're not just some people talking 'bout a band; we're, in some way, an important group. Remember, out there are people asking seth what we think about a Greatest hits thing, and even Cornell talked about us in a concert. I'm new to this list, and maybe i see things in a different way that other people do. Just the fact that there's people interested in a band that doesn't even exist anymore, makes me think something's going in the good way. Maybe this isn't the best moment in the list, but we're still there. I felt very happy when i found a group of people interested in the same music as me (as i said one hundred times in my previous posts, here in Spain nobody knows SG), and i think it's important to work for this list. In a few days i found places where i could buy SG related items, and i'm getting SOMMS soon (i hope, hey, how's my tape going). I understand your point of view, maybe reading bout other's dreams isn't interesting enough for all of you, but at least we're still there. How would you feel if you saw the SG recopilation on a few months? Cos i think that would be _MY_ SG longplay, in some way, that would be edited by SOMMS list, we've worked on it, and are contributing the Soundgarden thing can be there for more time. PS: Sorry for my english - i wasn't inspirated today (and i spent last three months without making english exercises) Nacho Priego - Alive in the SpanishUnknown ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 23:33:15 +0200 From: Ignacio Priego Horcas Subject: New threads? Well, i've got an idea we can talk about. I can't believe what i'm writing, and please dont hate for what i'm gonna ask, but... Which is the SG songs that you really hate? Sorry, but i think it's somehow easiest to answer this question, most of you just will say 'none', but can be interesting. As i said before, i think we're smart enough to recognise when our band does bad things. Personally, i hate 'little joe'. The music is good, but the lyrics... make that things to a voice like Cornell's should be forbidden... Buy, and dont hate me to much... :-) Nacho Priego - Alive in the Spanishunknown ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 19:28:52 -0500 From: Geoff Subject: Seattle 97 Hey sommsters, I just returned from an amazing trip to Seattle. I'm going to post some of my thoughts and observations about the trip and the city and Soundgarden. First of all, I must say Seattle is a beautiful city. The city must inspire some of the beauty in Soundgarden's music. And I must also say that traffic in Seattle is quite insane. The traffic on I-5 on friday afternoon must inspire the aggression on songs like Ty Cobb. We went to all the famous Soundgarden-places in Seattle we could find, and some we didn't even know about were pointed out to us. Visiting Discovery Park, where the Hunger Strike video was filmed was pretty cool, being in a place you've seen so many times. The Sound Garden from which Soundgarden took its name, was awesome. It's quite beautiful there. For those of you who have never heard the Sound Garden and own Motorvision, you can hear it at the very beginning of Motorvision as they are getting into the van. In fact it's quite possible they are getting into the van at the Soundgarden. The Wellwater Conspiracy show was amazing. For those who want to see what Matt and Ben are up to now, definitely check out the conspiracy. It is quite different from Soundgarden, since it is John McBain's project, but it is very cool. I understand that there was some debate while I was gone about what name Matt goes by: Tad or Ted. I think the answer is both. The CD lists him as Ted, and the 7" lists him as Tad. When I met him at the Croc, he signed a CD as "Matt aka Ted", after I addressed him as Ted. But during the show, Ben introduced him as Tad. Maybe the answer is, "who knows?". Anyway, Matt was very cool, and said he hadn't visited the SG website in a while. I also met Ben, in his environment, at the OK. Ben is an interesting character. We talked for quite a while, and he was very cool to me. He even bought me a shot of the house's best tequilla. Well, that's enough rambling from me. Thanks to Seattle sommsters Vikki and Caryn and all the other sommsters for making it such a great trip. Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 22:20:22 -0400 From: Maria Joseph Subject: Soundgarden Day Hi, SOMMSters!! Today I had my first real Soundgarden day, I suppose you could say. Tomorrow is my best friend's birthday so she asked me to go to the mall with her to get some stuff for her. We went to this music store and they had Singles for 11.99.. I was gonna get it and she wanted me to but for some reason I thought not to. It was the first place EVER I have seen it there, but I just walked away from it. I decided just to get a Pearl Jam cd.... but I didn't get it there either because I can get cd's fairly cheap at the local record store near my house.. Then we went to this skater shop place that sold everything.. We were browsing at the t-shirts and since they hid some by covering them and pushing them in the back of other shirts, I started digging.. I found the Soundgarden Cartoon shirt.. I was soooo estactic! I told her that I'd be very happy if she would buy it for me for Christmas and instead she says to me, "Well, how about I buy it for you today, right now?" I of course would love that, but we were there shopping for her because of her birthday and she wanted to be sooo nice to me. I asked her if she was up to it and if she really wanted to do that because it was her birthday money afterall.. and so she took the shirt off the rack and said that she was gonna buy it for me right then and there without any hassle.. And I will where it Monday!! It's soo kewl, but I have to wear it with my hair up if people are gonna read the names on the back :) I love her :) So then they dropped me off home and I asked my dad to take me to the record near my house.. so he got the keys and we took off. I got there and went to the Pearl Jam section (for once because I always come in there and go straight to the Soundgarden section) and I looked for the price of the CD.. It was 14.99 and with my handy dandy coupon I could get it for 11.99 so, first I looked around because in the car I reminded myself that I still wanted the Spawn Soundtrack.. i only had 21 dollars plus I still had to buy my best friend a gift. So I looked and the soundtrack on cd was 13.99.. I couldn't use my coupon on the soundtrack though.. not enough money.. so I looked at the tapes and came across Singles.. again!! I looked at the price cause this place is cheap and it was being sold for 2.99!!! I instantly bought it. I knew I shouldn't have gotten it at the mall! So then I saw the Spawn soundtrack for 9.99 and I bought those two hoping to have change for a gift.. I didn't but I bought them both anyways.. Then I came back, the store was about to close in exactly 5 minutes so I ran and picked up some rap tape for my friend, with the help of dear ole dad's wallet :) While at the counter, I saw this quarter on the floor but didn't pick up it up because some guy was looking at me..Then I realized they added a new magnet! And it was of Soundgarden!! I looked at it and didn't know what the hell it was. But I looked at the price, 2.79 and got it.. I didn't have enought change so I just bent down and picked up that damn quarter! hehe.. The magnet is probably of a show they did.. it says: Soundgarden Rev. Horton Heat You Am I The Grand Olympic July 17 Auditorium It's got this woman on it with cleave kinda showing and she's in the front with one leg up, and then 4 guys hanging around this club scene just kickin' it. It's pretty kewl :) Well, here what I think of Singles: I was all touchy and weird feeling even before I opened the tape (it was a used tape btw) because I knew that I was gonna hear the full version of Seasons and I got this bingy feeling in my stomach because I was soo anxious!! I heard it and I was left with such great emotion!! It was INCREDIBLE!!!! Birth Ritual was just amazing!! I absolutely loved it! Pearl Jam sounded soo kewl :) And Mudhoney, etc.. I really loved it!! Very impressive.. Well, see-ya later :) -Bunchypants ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 22:27:36 -0400 From: Maria Joseph Subject: Chris and Eleven I read this at the SG newsgroup thingie.. please feel free to respond to this: What is the tie with Chris and Eleven? I know they have been friends a long time... but why did Chris choose them to be his new backup band??? -Bunchypants ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 23:22:18 -0400 From: Maria Joseph Subject: Re: Soundgarden Day I forgot to mention what I thought about Birth Ritual. I have never.. ever.... EVER heard Chris sing like that before!!! I was blown away yet again by Mr. Cornell!!!! What kind of drive does he have to make him sing so damn impressively??? The music on both Seasons and Birth Ritual was astonishing I must say :) Guitars, lead, bass most definitely, DRUMS (matt :).... it was great!!!!! Vocals on both songs, again, were just..... ULTRAMEGA STELLAR!!! -Bunchypants ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 6 Sep 1997 to 7 Sep 1997 **********************************************