Date:     Fri, 22 Aug 1997 02:00:25 -0400
Subject:  SOMMS Digest - 21 Aug 1997 to 22 Aug 1997

There are 26 messages totalling 735 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. PISSED OFF AT MTV AND M2 BROADCAST!!!!!!!!!!
  2. Limited edition?
  3. limited editions (2)
  4. KYLE PETTY/SOMMS
  5. Hands All Over
  6. <No subject given>
  7. Besides and MTV
  8. IMPORTANT!!!
  9. Another movie with SG (3)
 10. I Found a Single Not On the Site...Any Info???
 11. quotes
 12. things
 13. free chat
 14. Heretic's whispering...
 15. WOOHOO!!!!!!!!
 16. RUMORS SUCK!!!!
 17. greatest hits according to cyber sleaze mag... (2)
 18. limited edition thread (2)
 19. Recordable CD drive (2)
 20. radio listening

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 02:02:54 -0400
From:    Robbie Strickland <stonetemple@USA.NET>
Subject: Re: PISSED OFF AT MTV AND M2 BROADCAST!!!!!!!!!!

Well Hands All Over is on louder than live..  I do agree that mtv
sucks, their videos hour will be something like 1 video - commercial - 1
video - commercial - 1 video - commercial.

ack.

I wish there was a video for sale that had all of their videos, so I
don't have to rot in front of mtv for hours "just in case."

ack.

SToNeTeMPLe



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Date:    Wed, 20 Aug 1997 20:49:07 -1000
From:    JAMES COLES <808state@PIXI.COM>
Subject: Limited edition?

Since were on the Limited edition subject,does anyone know really how
limited Superunknown on colored vinyl is? I know of a place that has one
for sale for $25.00 and I'm thinking of buying it.Could somebody out there
give me some info??

Thanks,Sayonara................Nancy

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 02:33:27 -0400
From:    Jenny Grover <sleeveless@CITYNET.NET>
Subject: limited editions

Some of you seem to have missed my point.  But what really is the point
some of you are making?  Is the point in record collecting to collect
rare and expensive objects, or to build a collection of music that is
meaningful to you?  Is the point of releasing these things to somehow
weed out the weaklings from the "true fans" by hiding a few treasures
and seeing who has the money and stamina to acquire them?  I can only
think of Giant Sand.  They decided to release all their albums as very
limited editions.  They thought this was akin to a limited edition run
of art prints, which is an interesting concept, but the result is that I
have never been able to find a Giant Sand album, nor do I know anyone
who has one, and I have only heard 2 of their songs, ever.  Now, this is
the extreme for certain, but suppose SG had decided to do that with one
of their albums.  Would you be thrilled at the prospect of the hunt, or
pissed off because there was a new album out that you couldn't get your
hands on, try as you might?  And if you did find one, would you really
be thrilled if you had to pay many times over what the original owner
paid?  It's something to ponder.  Is the value of these things for us
really in the things themselves or in the notion of conquest?  Yes, I
seek out these things, I sometimes pay too much for them, and I feel a
thrill when I find them.  I'm even guilty of gloating over them.  But at
the same time I always think that maybe it shouldn't be this way.   This
is not a moral issue per se, but a personal one, and personally I think
we should all have a fair chance at these lovely things without being
taken advantage of.

Jen Grover  (off to Rochester for a few days.  maybe i'll turn up
something rare)

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:23:47 -0400
From:    Kris <khermans@AMALASOFT.COM>
Subject: KYLE PETTY/SOMMS

Hello sommsters,

I don't know how many people know this, but Kyle Petty is a race car
driver and his father Richard Petty drives too! I didn't know that.
Maybe that explains the "bad motor" sounds out of Kim's guitar. Wow!

A long time ago someone on the list said that SOMMS was the longest
palindrome. Well, it's not. I'll give you more info when my brother lets
me see his palindrome book again. Bye!

Kris Hermansen <khermans@amalasoft.com>

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 04:34:08 -0400
From:    Giuliana Garbini <GGarbini@AOL.COM>
Subject: Hands All Over

I just finished watching and taping the video.  Man, I love living on the
West Coast.  I always find out what I should watch out for from all you
Sommsters on the East Coast 3 hours ahead of time! =)  Chris looked mighty
tasty in the video didn't he? ;-)

Much Love,
Giuliana

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:58:49 -0500
From:    Pyxis <rviray@SPYGLASS.COM>
Subject: <No subject given>

>>From:    Kris <khermans@AMALASOFT.COM>
Subject: CD Recordable

Does anybody out there have a CD recordable drive? I am getting one very
soon at a computer show at the end of this year, maybe November. When I
get it for about $300, I'll need disks.<<

Uh, hate to rain on anyone's parade, Kris, but back in May, a bunch of us
SOMMSters sent CDs and cash to one Skye Thomson (skyegarden@aol.com), who
had posted a similar message. Did any of us get our CDs or cash or copies
back? No. This is a response I got on Aug. 18 (!) from Kelly Lee
(cdlis@msn.com), who is supposedly in touch with Skye:

>>I talked to Skye and he told me he already sent out
everything on Wed. before he left to California.  You should be getting yours
soon if you haven't already received it yet. Sincerely, Kelly Lee<<

Here is the last mail I received from Skye on Aug. 1:

>>So I'll send the cds and everything so that you can make copies.
I'm sending
Violently Happy (back to you)
and
Stolen Prayers
UltramegaUnknown
Ok, it goes out in tomorrows mail, thanks again for your patience.
-skye.<<

Apologies to Skye and Kris if indeed you are on the up and up, but I have
not received ANYTHING. So SOMMSters, please be careful! Don't engage in
unprotected sex or CD burning!

PS: If anyone wants to sell me their Violently Happy CD, I have to replace
the one I borrowed from a friend. Reply privately, please.

rviray@spyglass.com

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:22:34 -0400
From:    Maria Joseph <CameronBDS@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Besides and MTV

I just want to reply on that MTV viewing... Well, last night they started
playing the of Chillies and then I figured that if the play NIN (which I
hoped) then they would play SG.. and damn enough did they play NIN.. so I
stayed up because I knew they'd play Hands All Over... and they
DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have it on tape now!! Yay! After watching MTV for
awhile, u learn to figure out their cruel game plan.. but it's like I can't
not watch it because it's the only free source for me to be able to see SG's
old videos.. so... I dunno, it's like a trap in a way..

Kick Ass

-Maria


~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
*SOUNDGARDEN (3)~
 ~     1984 - 1997         *
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
~SOUNDGARDEN (4)*
*      1985 - 1997       ~
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:36:11 -0400
From:    Maria Joseph <CameronBDS@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT!!!

That last one was an old message.. ok, well I went into that private room
Rusty Cage and people were in it saying that it was theirs and they had been
using it for 3 months now so I thought, "hmmm..." so I made a SG public room
and talked to Sgrdn27 and mentioned it and that I wanted a Private SG chat
room free of flames and full of SOMMSters and people that seemed "worthy"
enough.. so the both of us settled on using the Member Directory password as
the Private Room chat name... Then I stayed in the SG public room and we
picked out people we felt we SG fans by reading profiles, asking questions,
etc... when Sgrdn27 left, o6z6z6y came in and helped me out.. then I took all
the names we collected that night (about 8 or 9) and I sent them e-mail
congradulating them and plus I sent them links to go to web pages and to sign
onto SOMMS and the fan club.. Unfortunately, this is for AOL SOMMSters, but
SOMMSters all over can do this :) I sent the copy of the e-mail I sent to
these people to the SOMMSters that were in the room last night and if any AOL
SOMMSter wants to see it, e-mail me privately... use this copy to send to SG
Private Room "worthy" people after evaluating their love for SG.. and no,
this idea did NOT come from the posting of the SG chat room.. It came up
originally a day before that posting, honestly.... Thanx u guys.. :)

-Maria

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:50:09 -0400
From:    Dan Carbo <Hydrates@AOL.COM>
Subject: Another movie with SG

I was watching the *Cable Guy* on Showtime the other night. At one part
Mathew Broderick (Steven) was talking to his friend at work. They were going
to a concert and his friend was wearing a Superunknown shirt (The one like
the album cover.) I'm guessing a SG concert. Well, Steven couldn't go so his
friend drove him home, and it sounded like he was playing SG in the car, but
I couldn't tell. Can anyone confirm this?

Dan

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:15:33 -0400
From:    Scott Hammer <O6z6z6y@AOL.COM>
Subject: I Found a Single Not On the Site...Any Info???

I found a copy of the "Incescent Mace/Loco Mosquito (aka Flower)" 45 on red
vinyl, #102.  On the back it says track A is an early recording and track B
is a 1988 outake.  It's on Big 7 Inch Records, lists "PUNK" as percussionist
(there's a pic of Matt tho so I guess it's a nickname), recorded and mixed at
Reciprocal Recording, produced by Jack Endino & Soundgarden, background vox
by Jack Endino.  It's in a folded sleeve and the printing is all done in red.
 Soundgarden is spelt with two dots over the "A" (ya know like Motley Crue
does the "U" & "O", I think they're called umlats but I'm not sure and I sure
as hell don't know how to spell it).  The cover has a pic of the band with
Kim just starting to grow his hair out and a "Jailbait" Chris Cornell.  The
bottom right hand corner has a small circle that says "Colored Vinyl".

Any clues????

One happy freakin kamper,

~^v^OzzY^v^~

BTW I also snagged the "Spoonman" 12'' and the "Black Hole Sun" 7'' pic disk.

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:16:37 +0000
From:    "John D." <jmjdip5@GTE.NET>
Subject: Re: Another movie with SG

yep, I can, I do not which song was in the car but I have heard it was a
Soundgardeb song from lots of people. (to me it sounds like one) except
for the fact it sounds a lot like the silverchair song on the
soundtrack. So all in all in my opinon I think it's a Soundgarden song.

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:42:51 -0500
From:    NIKI FREER <endless_nameless@PRODIGY.COM>
Subject: Re: limited editions

Jen Grover wrote:

> Is the point in record collecting to collect
>rare and expensive objects, or to build a collection
>of music that is meaningful to you?

 i am doing it to please myself. i love that feeling of ecstacy from
finding that weird single you didn't think you'd ever find. but i'm
not doing it to evenutally re-sell them. it's for me, it's for my
happiness, and it's for my love of the band.
 and no, i don't think the point is to wheedle out true fans from
radio fans, it's just to make things fun. in their younger ages,
everything was limited and on vinyl and colored and what not, just
due to production costs and the fact that they were an unknown band
in a unknown town with a bunch of metal heads and punksters who they
weren't sure would like them or not. they didn't have a ton of fans,
so why press a ton of records?
 i think they just do it now just for the fun, for the reminiscent
part of it.

mind riot

____
there must be something else
there must be something good
far away...far away from here...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOUNDGARDEN
1984-1997
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:52:41 -0400
From:    Rachel Potter <UnknownGrl@AOL.COM>
Subject: quotes

i loooooove it when chris says "allright everybody, take off your shirts" I
think it's more of the way he says it then the actual content

and

when kim talks about goofis and gallent in motorvision... it's greeeaaat!

hee hee,
-Rachel

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:30:02 -0400
From:    Rachel Potter <UnknownGrl@AOL.COM>
Subject: things

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ATTENTION!!!  ATTENTION!!!   ATTENTION!!!   ATTENTION!!!
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*
CASH REWARD!!!  FREE SEX!!!!   ANYTHING YOU WANT!!!
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Okay... now that i have your attention...here it goes... i'm looking
despritly for 3 things:

1. A copy of the rock line (the radio show) with soundgarden on it

2. A either video or audio taped copy of the 96 Lollapalooza in west palm
beach (of anywhere else)

3. The super-secret password for seth's site

If anyone can help me out... even a little i would reeeeaaalllyy appreciate
it!

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:21:15 -0400
From:    Deborah Servey <riker@VELOCITY.NET>
Subject: Re: free chat

A couple of people have responded about the free chat system Firefly
(www.firefly.com) so I wanted to post again and encourage people some more.
 It requires no downloading, no irc, nothing fancy.  Once there's enough
interest, we'll have to find out how to create an actual page for
Sgarden--we can have a bulletin board on there and people can also choose
it as something to belong to--it gets listed on your own member page.

Until we actually create a venue, we can go into custom chat.  Anyone who's
joined or is thinking of joining, we need a really cool and very much
Sgarden related name for our custom chat room!

Also, neat feature--on your own member page, you can list fave Ffly
members.  I'm Riker20 on there.....if those of you who are going to try it
will post your names, we can all add each other.  Then when you sign on,
the system tells you who of your faves are online too!

I've never done chat before and maybe Firefly isn't the best system but
I've met some of the nicest people on here, it's simple to use, and it is
supposed to be a venue for entertainment interests....so think about it!
You just need a browser and an internet provider, nothing else!

later.....deb

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:56:10 +0600
From:    Robin Brookeneck <al639266@SUN1.UR.MX>
Subject: Re: Another movie with SG

>I couldn't tell. Can anyone confirm this?
>
>Dan
>
>
I guess I saw it too...and you know...I guess I saw a SG poster in the movie
of that whale named Willie and the kid..in the room it's seems
to be hang it on the door..but I don't see so clearly..Have you ever seen
that before?

Rob

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:09:00 +0600
From:    Robin Brookeneck <al639266@SUN1.UR.MX>
Subject: Heretic's whispering...

        Hi all!
the other day I was listening to Heretic..at the end of the song Chris
whiper something that I cannot indentify...I don't really know if the complete
lyrics are on the Seth's homepage lyrics section (sorry Seth I have problems
with my Nestcape program :P)...Does any one know what does it say on the
Heretic's final part?

Rob

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:21:48 +0600
From:    Robin Brookeneck <al639266@SUN1.UR.MX>
Subject: Re: WOOHOO!!!!!!!!

>yes!  my brother just told me that they were playing Hands All Over!!!  they
>actually played it too.  mabye they were trying to make up for last night.
> anyway, the vid kicked ass.  i guess we can all thanx MTV for once.  :)
>
>~Matt
>"I know you're sick and alone"

Is the Hands All Over video that you have seen the same in the Louder than
Live videotape?

yeah it's cool! :)...even when Kim hate to do it...C'mon Kim admit it !!
it's entertainer!!! :) haha!!!

Rob

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:05:07 PDT
From:    Myra Haza <circleofpower@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: RUMORS SUCK!!!!

You know what I hate....rumors. They fucking suck! They is a rumor going
around on the Internet that SG got back together. STOP THE ROMORS!! I
know they are the good kind of rumors..but damn..someone's going to get
the wrong idea!

--Myra

Another motherfucker down the drain

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:52:00 -0400
From:    rita <yu166423@YORKU.CA>
Subject: greatest hits according to cyber sleaze mag...

did anyone else catch this in allstar mag today?? :

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
     Can you
     believe there's actually
     already been talk of
     [gasp] a greatest hits
     Soundgarden album
     around the A&M
     offices?...
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~

wow, we sommsters must either be pychic, have incredible timing or someone
knows something....;););) then again, allstar mag isn't exactly the most
reliable of sources on the net either...anyway, just felt the need to post
it.

au revoir.

                ~rita

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:32:03 -0700
From:    Tiffany Saint <vamprcat@EMRL.COM>
Subject: Re: greatest hits according to cyber sleaze mag...

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, rita wrote:
> wow, we sommsters must either be pychic, have incredible timing or someone
> knows something....;););) then again, allstar mag isn't exactly the most
> reliable of sources on the net either...anyway, just felt the need to post
> it.

If I remember correctly, Seth is the psychic who knows something.


/\/\^^/\/\
Vampyre Cat

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:54:42 -0400
From:    Deborah Servey <riker@VELOCITY.NET>
Subject: limited edition thread

I've been reading the posts going back and forth about the limited edition
stuff and just thought I'd add a few thoughts. At one time I was very much
a "go after everything" type of collector, but I'm not anymore, and why
would take too much of your time to touch upon.

What good are limited editions?  I'm not real sure.  Far as I can see from
this list, anyway, the stuff gives the finders bragging rights, which Jenna
has said is just plain childish.  I've also seen the attitude being picked
up at times that b/c someone may have more limited eds than others THAT
person is a more devoted or better fan.  Again, in Jenna's words, just
plain childish.

Let me ask you a question I'd like to see debate on.  WHO IS IT THAT
DETERMINES THAT LIMITED EDITION STUFF IS WORTH SO MUCH?  Yes, first you'll
say the record company, and in some cases that may be.  Once it's out of
the record store tho, and is in circulation, who says it's worth $60 or
whatever other prices I've seen on this list?  As far as I'm concerned,
it's people who are out to make a buck off of fans.  I've been going to
record shows for years, and the first thing I learned was never wear a
shirt that proclaims who your fave band is b/c all the vultures will go
after you!  Also as far as I'm concerned, it's like people who SELL video
for $25-50.  Who said a recorded video is worth that much?  Hop much does a
blank tape cost, people?  The prices get asked b/c fans like you are
willing to pay them!

I do have some limited edition Sgarden stuff but only b/c I found it at a
cool record store that I get to maybe 4 times a year.  I have an MLB single
that's probably about priceless, but so what?  I have a complete collection
of of albums and singles from Trevor Rabin's past, stuff even he doesn't
have, stuff that took me years to collect.  Do any of you care about my
Rabin stuff?  No.  Why?  B/c you don't know who he is, etc.  BUT to fans of
his, that collection of mine would be worth over $1200, and that's a modest
estimate considering some of it is from South Africa.

What's the point?  The point is, it's all in what you like and in what you
WANT to collect.  If you HAVE to have everything, then the limited stuff is
worth it to you.  But if you don't have it or can't find it....it sure
doesn't make you any less of a fan or any less worthy of being a fan!

Thanks for the ear!  Comments always welcome!
later....ciao....deb

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Date:    Thu, 21 Aug 1997 23:30:04 -0400
From:    Scott Hammer <O6z6z6y@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: limited edition thread

n a message dated 97-08-21 23:02:42 EDT, you write:

<< I've been reading the posts going back and forth about the limited edition
 stuff and just thought I'd add a few thoughts. At one time I was very much
 a "go after everything" type of collector, but I'm not anymore, and why
 would take too much of your time to touch upon.

 What good are limited editions?  I'm not real sure.  Far as I can see from
 this list, anyway, the stuff gives the finders bragging rights, which Jenna
 has said is just plain childish.  I've also seen the attitude being picked
 up at times that b/c someone may have more limited eds than others THAT
 person is a more devoted or better fan.  Again, in Jenna's words, just
 plain childish.

 Let me ask you a question I'd like to see debate on.  WHO IS IT THAT
 DETERMINES THAT LIMITED EDITION STUFF IS WORTH SO MUCH?  Yes, first you'll
 say the record company, and in some cases that may be.  Once it's out of
 the record store tho, and is in circulation, who says it's worth $60 or
 whatever other prices I've seen on this list?  As far as I'm concerned,
 it's people who are out to make a buck off of fans.  I've been going to
 record shows for years, and the first thing I learned was never wear a
 shirt that proclaims who your fave band is b/c all the vultures will go
 after you!  Also as far as I'm concerned, it's like people who SELL video
 for $25-50.  Who said a recorded video is worth that much?  Hop much does a
 blank tape cost, people?  The prices get asked b/c fans like you are
 willing to pay them!

 I do have some limited edition Sgarden stuff but only b/c I found it at a
 cool record store that I get to maybe 4 times a year.  I have an MLB single
 that's probably about priceless, but so what?  I have a complete collection
 of of albums and singles from Trevor Rabin's past, stuff even he doesn't
 have, stuff that took me years to collect.  Do any of you care about my
 Rabin stuff?  No.  Why?  B/c you don't know who he is, etc.  BUT to fans of
 his, that collection of mine would be worth over $1200, and that's a modest
 estimate considering some of it is from South Africa.

 What's the point?  The point is, it's all in what you like and in what you
 WANT to collect.  If you HAVE to have everything, then the limited stuff is
 worth it to you.  But if you don't have it or can't find it....it sure
 doesn't make you any less of a fan or any less worthy of being a fan!

 Thanks for the ear!  Comments always welcome!
 later....ciao....deb
  >>

Want to know what I find "childish"?  All the individuals on here that whine
because they are either 1.too lazy to actually get up and look for things or
2.have no money to actually buy them when they find em (I'm in the same boat
here).  As far as I'm concerned I got over complaining about the "life ain't
fair" pout when I was in 2nd grade.  Sure life sukz...I've seen stuff that I
have no hope of ever buying cause I don't have the cash, but I know I can get
it someway somehoww if I have the determination and want it so bad I can
taste it.  I don't sit in a corner and pitch a fit and expect the record
companies to ruin the thrill of someone obtaining that piece by putting it on
a major release thats going to be available until the next millenium.  That's
just plain selfish.  Life's a bitch, prices are ridiculous and no, you
probably won't ever have every little thing that ever existed in it's
original "limited edition colored vinyl hand numbered imported" form, but if
you want it bad enough then work for it and find someone willing to copy it
for you.  You'll have the music and you won't end up spoiling the collecting
aspect for the rest of us.  And no having more does not make you a better
fan...and yes the "nah nah nah nah na" attitude sukz, but people can be utter
fuking shits.  I tend to let people know what I found so they can maybe feel
a bit of the excitement that I felt when I found it, not so I can hold it
over their heads...that's just not kewl.  As far as the pricing thing...some
people drive a Pinto and some drive a Porche, what's your point?  Seems to me
I see the "life's not fair" deal showing up again.  C'mon grow up people,
don't demean others because you may have had a run in with a shithead...and
damn you if you demean someone else just because you are to lazy to go any
further than your local record store that sells nothing but the latest eMpTyV
ear candy.

Nuff said,

~^v^OzzY^v^~

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Date:    Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:34:09 -0400
From:    Kris <khermans@AMALASOFT.COM>
Subject: Recordable CD drive

Hello fellow sommsters,

My last idea for this was pretty stupid, but this one is a lot better.
Here it is. Whoever has a recordable cd drive and a blank cd can do
this. The owner of the recordable cd drive is sent b-sides/live/studio
songs via other persons in MP3 format (CD Quality). He then copies them
onto the cd. <I am not sure if you could play them on your home stereo
or not, but I bet there are converters out there> Along with the songs
there could be full Soundgarden videos/interviews/live songs in mpeg
format. There are almost 650 mb of space on a cd so you have the
opportunity for a lot of different things, such as lyrics and other
numerous text files involving Soundgarden. I think that this is a great
idea! Let's keep this idea on the table. Who wants to get involved in
this? I do. This can only work if there are people contributing to this
greatfully. Thanks a lot.

Kris Hermansen <khermans@amalasoft.com>

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Date:    Fri, 22 Aug 1997 00:44:17 -0400
From:    Dan Carbo <Hydrates@AOL.COM>
Subject: radio listening

Just thought I would share with you what I heard on the radio the other day.
The station just finished playing rhinosaur, and I wanted to hear what the
DJs would say. First they both said how bad it was they broke up, and what a
great band they were. Then the comment was made that the band will have to
get together again because all of them will run out of money and they need to
pay the bills.

Personally I would hate to see SG get back together just because they need
money. If they ever do join up again I would hope it would be purely for the
reason of making great music again. Not that I wouldn't buy the album if it
was for money, I would just feel uncomfortable thinking that none of them
really wanted to do it. What do you think?

Dan

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Date:    Fri, 22 Aug 1997 00:58:08 EDT
From:    seth <saperl@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Recordable CD drive

> Here it is. Whoever has a recordable cd drive and a blank cd can do
> this. The owner of the recordable cd drive is sent b-sides/live/studio
> songs via other persons in MP3 format (CD Quality). He then copies them
> onto the cd. <I am not sure if you could play them on your home stereo
> or not, but I bet there are converters out there> Along with the songs
> there could be full Soundgarden videos/interviews/live songs in mpeg
> format.

Haven't we gone through this before (a few months ago, if I remember
correctly)? Sure, you're not doing this for profit -- you had damn
well better not be -- but by making perfect, CD copies of officially
released songs, you are doing Soundgarden a great disservice.

When 'From The Mouth Of Decadence' was completed, it was a
cassette-only project, and while that perhaps is not all too
different, it was somehow more acceptable. More like a bunch of
friends trading some tapes around so everyone gets to hear the
tunes. And the fact that it was on cassette meant that if you saw the
CDs that contained the original songs, you would be more likely to buy
them. I've got the tapes, but I own every song I've ever found on CD
as well.

If you start doing this type of thing on CD, you're entering the realm
of big-time bootleggers, the type who make money from sales of
'Supermainstream'. If I've got a CD full of b-sides, why would I ever
purchase 20 separate CD singles to get the songs I don't have?

Whether you agree with Soundgarden's method of releasing b-sides or
not, and whether or not you feel you should have to shell out the cash
for a whole bunch of CDs to get them, if you're making and
distributing your own CD compilations of them, you are stealing from
the band members' pockets. And don't give me the "I'm sure Chris
Cornell can afford to lose a few cents to me" justification. It's
still not right.

-seth

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