Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 02:12:15 -0400 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 12 Aug 1997 to 13 Aug 1997 There are 37 messages totalling 1053 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. (2) 2. Roz, who is our next caller? 3. found SG/lyrics/literary devices (2) 4. boot hunting in chicago....... 5. radio and how much it sucks (2) 6. Our SG logo again 7. SG on MTV and the radio (2) 8. Time and Season for Soundgarden 9. u all know sublime sucks (4) 10. Time and Season for SG? or not? 11. Ohh Yeah! (2) 12. Spoonman and a SOMMS band? 13. Ultramega Unknown (3) 14. Sweet Novaselic :-) 15. soundgarden bashing.............others. 16. Don't call me copycat! 17. EMP 18. a SG day (2) 19. BIG QUESTION 20. Scarry dreams..... 21. SOMMS band? Count me in! 22. a couple of pics of CC in my hometown :) 23. temple of the dog. (2) 24. big day out... 25. LEAST favorite lyric To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 02:00:58 -0400 From: Robbie Strickland Subject: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------NetAddress--BHLF8s2810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and I also corrected myself after misspelling it. SToNeTeMPLe it was a simple typographical error ------------NetAddress--BHLF8s2810 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from 206.241.12.2 (206.241.12.2) by mx05 via mtad (2.3) id mx05-BHFHIX0942; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 01:34:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (206.241.12.19) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <15.18058096@VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM>; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 3:34:22 -0400 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV release 1.8c) with NJE id 4779 for SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 03:33:54 -0400 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with BSMTP id 5223; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 03:32:18 -0400 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (198.81.11.38) by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 06 Aug 97 03:32:17 EDT Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA22597 for SOMMS@mitvma.mit.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 03:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970806033238_-1338987462@emout12.mail.aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 03:32:39 -0400 Reply-To: GGarbini@AOL.COM From: Giuliana Garbini Subject: Re: Info on "Omega Paradise" To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU << one thing I can point out, they misspelled "Thayil" with "Thayic" and "Shepperd" with "Shepard" >> And you also misspelled it. It's "Shepherd", not "Shepperd". Much Love, Giuliana ------------NetAddress--BHLF8s2810-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 02:02:22 -0400 From: Robbie Strickland Subject: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------NetAddress--BHLgB22853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit that's like when my mom heard the lyrics to hands all over =) SToNeTeMPLe ------------NetAddress--BHLgB22853 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from 198.83.19.115 (198.83.19.115) by mx04 via mtad (2.3) id mx04-BHFFJ80740; Tue, 05 Aug 1997 23:09:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mime4.prodigy.com (mime4.prodigy.com [192.168.254.43]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA64682 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 01:09:58 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime4.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id BAA14690 for stonetemple@USA.NET; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 01:08:36 -0400 Message-Id: <199708060508.BAA14690@mime4.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com ( NIKI FREER) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 01:08:36, -0500 To: stonetemple@USA.NET Subject: Re: No Subject you wrote: >They go "Is that a swastica on your folder and shirt", >and I'm like "WTF?! no, that's "S" and "G"!" i sympathize! it happens to me all the time too! i even have that tattooed on my body. god forbid my mthoer ever sees it! = ) mind riot ____ i was slipping through the cracks of a stolen jewel... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOUNDGARDEN 1984-1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------NetAddress--BHLgB22853-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 03:13:19 -0400 From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Roz, who is our next caller? This is probably more for the American SOMMSters, but I will explain a little so others can respond if they want. There is a tv sitcom called "Frasier" that is based in Seattle. It's pretty much about a guy named Dr. Frasier Crane who is a psychiatrist and he was a radio talk show where people call in with their problems yadda yadda yadda. :) Anyway, I either read or saw something on tv that said that celebrities sometimes play the callers. My question is, if any member of SG phoned in, what do you think their problem would be? Would Matt seek help because he sleeps with his drumsticks? :) Would Ben be upset because he's such a sensitive guy and no one seems to understand him? Would Kim want advice on how to get people to understand what he's saying? Would Chris need guidance on how to get over writer's block? What do you guys think? May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 00:39:31 -0700 From: Tiffany Saint Subject: found SG/lyrics/literary devices 1. Thanks to everyone who sent directions: I found the soundgarden sculpture and I even videotaped it so I could capture a little bit of the sound for later. 2. On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, James Bartlett wrote: > My favorite lyric would have to be, "Damn > the water/Burn the wine" from Let Me Drown. I enjoy it because I can't > tell what the hell it means. It's fun though. I've always thought these lines were a reference to the Catholic practices of blessing water and drinking sacramental wine. Reaching back to an old thread about opposites... 3. ***warning: lyrics are dissected below, if this bores you don't bother ***to read on There are a number of literary terms that deal with the use of opposites in poetry. Oxymoron, antithesis, and paradox are among them. A paradox generally means that the statement appears self-contradictory or absurd at first glance, but upon closer inspection contains some truth. "I got up feeling so down" is a possible example of a paradox. It sort of depends on your perception of the original statement. I think the line "the most important fool you forgot to see" from Mailman is a paradox because it seems contracdictory to say "important fool" until you think about what the "fool" is going to do to you for ignoring him. (I say him because he is, after all, a mailMAN) The definition of oxymoron is very similar to paradox, but oxymoron is a more general term for the combination of incongruous or apparently contradictory terms to produce a special effect. "Whomsoever I've cured/ I've sickened now/ Whomsoever I've cradled/ I've put you down" May be an example of either oxymoron or paradox, depending on how you perceive the lyrics at first hearing them. I'm not sure I can explain antithesis very well, although I think a lot of the opposites quoted on the list fall into this category. My notes define antithesis as "a literary device used to contrast ideas by using opposite or different meanings or by listing alternate meanings". Obviously I didn't take very good notes that day. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that a lot of the lyrics could be called antithesis, such as "Everything I've held is what I've freed" or "lives we make/never seem to ever get us anywhere/but dead" or maybe "for all of your kisses/turned to spit in my face" I hope that's soundgarden related enough not to get my kneecaps busted by the listthug... Tiffany /\/\^^/\/\ Vampyre Cat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 03:36:49 -0400 From: Mike Smith Subject: boot hunting in chicago....... this somms post goes out to all you northern sommsters :) im going to chicago, "hey zep lyrics" in about a week, and would like to know if there is any GOOD places i should go to to find boots/vinal. ill be staying in the napperville area, but plan on going into the city alot.....also, please email your responses back privatley (lets not clutter mailboxes more than necessary), also #2 please send me the names, numbers, and exact addresses... stuff like "ya know that record store, behind the sub shop, next to the gas station" just wont help. thanks......... mike. "im lucks last match struck in the pouring down wind" <-------fav. lyric. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:34:00 -0400 From: Dan Carbo Subject: radio and how much it sucks I think I have already said a little about radio and MTV in the past. But it sucks so bad that it deserves another thrashing. I was sitting in my car listening to y100. (A philadelphia staion who claims to play the best rock.) They started to play Hanson. Do I have to say anymore. I quickly changed the station to the other rock station, 94 WYSP. (It's better than y100, but has moments of suckiness.) Anyway they started to play Offspring. I used to like them, but the songs they have now are so blatently 4 chords that it pisses me off. I sat astonished as why people find this attraction to these songs I could play. The bands have no musical talent, instead they just strum away on their strings blarring out disstorted chords. Why do people like this? MTV is the perfect example of playing pure mainstream. I can't even remember when I saw a SG video last. And what's up with all the rap they play? First, it all sucks. Second, It is so violently censord that you don't have a clue what they are saying. All you here are these vvvvvvt and wwwwwu sounds. I'm almost relieved when they show Jewel just because it's not rap. If it was up to me. MTV Jams would be a Run DMC marathon. I don't know what ever happened to good music. Someone help me out. Back me up. I say we start a revolution to wipe out these one-hit-wonders, and bands whose image is more important than their sound. They are giving rock, grunge, and heavy metal a bad name. If we don't do something, the next generation will be listening to Spice Girls to find out what a harmoney and melody is. I just needed to vent and find if anyone out there feels the same as me. Dan P.S. I play drums and violin if anyone wants to start a SOMMs band. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:34:33 -0400 From: Maria Joseph Subject: Our SG logo again Hey, I figured it out by myself.. not that it should matter to you guys but here's what the original thing was: At the end of our posts we'd put 'Soundgarden 1984-1997' and in an interview Chris said that the band got together in 85 and everyone else said '84 and I was just wondering why. See, the thing is that everyone one is right. Soundgarden got together in both years you could say. In '84, the 3 pieced SG formed and in '85 the 4 pieced SG formed, so when Chris was asked that question, he was thinking in terms of the 4 pieced SG, since they'd always been 4 membered when they got a new drummer. So.... just like to share that. Kick Ass -Maria ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:54:37 -0400 From: Maria Joseph Subject: SG on MTV and the radio Now believe me, I agree that radio and MTV sucks, but the radio is actually getting quite good at it.. in Maryland I listen to 98 Rock, the best station for that "classic grunge" stuff, DC 101, and 99.1 HFS.. Last night, I had the radio on and on Tuesdays DC 101 has this thing they do called "Two for Tuesday" and it's when they play two songs of a band in a row, on after the other.. So.. I waited around and they played some good Pearl Jam at the start and then they said SG as coming up, so after 3 more bands and some commercials they played 2 SG songs.. they were BIMH and BHS... I enjoyed it.. During BHS, my tv went black for awhile and my mind went black and my mom carried in black dress pants that she'd ironed for me.. As for that godforsaking MTV.. well, I tried e-mailing them, but no progress yet. I told them that they should have some kind of SG tribute or something since they didn't seem to care all that much that they split.. I often check M2 now, as my only hope, but I dunno.. also, I did e-mail DC 101 about playing SG and since I was on 98 Rock I asked my buddies Kirk, Mark, and Lopez to play some SG for me because they didn't when I was there with them. I'll keep badgering these stations and even MTV, who knows.. someone might break, but as for the radio, they play SG quite often, so.. that maybe just around here... Oh, yeah, I forgot the other part of my post.. I was online creating a SG story with my friend (not a rumor type thing, but a little adventure that we created for fun..story-telling) and I had MTV on because I was waiting for Road Rules and then I got off and Road Rules came on and during on scene of it they played BUTOW as the background music.. nothing special because MTV plays SG songs on their little Real World and Road Rules shows.. They've played more clips of SG songs then than they do on the Music Videos segment.. And also, on the radio, when the station has their own little "commercial" where they say something like: The Best Rock Around .. and then play clips of like Pearl Jam, Metallica, etc and then announce the station's name and then they play a real song, u know..Well, SG is apart of that thing on a station here, I can't remember which, but the song is Fell On Black Days.. so they play a clip of that when they are saying that they've got some great music, so they'll play a clip of SG (which is great music) and like Metallica or something... Welp, that would be all. Later Kick Ass -Maria ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:14:22 -0400 From: Lyndsay Smith Subject: Time and Season for Soundgarden I listen to all SG all year long but a lot more in the summer because I'm home a lot more. I know about the first month of school I'll suffer from SG withdrawl. As for the time of day, I listen to SG whenever I have a craving for the music. At night, probably, because I'm home and in my room alot more. Lyndsay I've been deaf now I want noise ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:23:38 -0400 From: Dave Nailling Subject: Re: u all know sublime sucks Howdy! I share the exact same opinion as everyone who has already responded to this thread. No radio staion anywhere near me plays anything that I like. I ask you, when's the last time you heard The Cramps, The Reverend Horton Heat, or The Supersuckers on any radio staion? Not any time recently, that's for sure. The stations in Boston Like WAAF (Which plays shitty modern hardcore/metal, e.g. Korn, Deftones, Powerman 5000...), and WBCN (A Dave Matthew's Band Freak's paradise) are too narrow minded to play anything remotely different and/or interesting. Add radio to the same shitty list which MTV has been on for several years. -That Texan kid (Dave Nailling) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:28:00 EDT From: seth Subject: Re: u all know sublime sucks If you have complaints about the playlist featured on your not-so-favorite radio station, please direct them to the station itself. Or just listen to a CD instead. But don't vent about it here. -seth/listadmin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:45:23 -0400 From: Jenna Freemon Subject: Re: radio and how much it sucks In a message dated 97-08-12 10:37:42 EDT, you write: << I just needed to vent and find if anyone out there feels the same as me. Dan >> You bet I'm pissed about all this stuff!!!!!! I practacly waist my time waiting for a SG videos all day it sux!!!! And I definately dont want my children listening to this Spice Girl and Hanson Crap. Hanson has pretty good voices but there music bugs the living hell out of me. I cant satnd it. Ahhhhhhhh! No one can sing like Chris and make music with the reast of the band. Geez SG has no idea what they've done to us but i do respect there own personal lifes. Oh well life's a bitch. :'o[ Jenna :o( ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:24:33 -0400 From: Catherine Veit Subject: Re: u all know sublime sucks thanx larry at least there's one sane person out there. some guy coppied me man. he's asking all the sommsters to start a band, well i asked first. you can see it by looking at the date and time of his message, now look at mine. don't fall into his trap fall into mine. copy catters is another thing that sucks besides bush. yeah, AIC, L7, old sg, melvins, that's about it, it's kind of depressing! so everyone give me some band names to go with. any suggestions???????? -CATS4KIM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:55:21 -0400 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: Re: Time and Season for SG? or not? I prefer to listen to soundgarden at night, becuz they seem nocturnal to me for some reason. i dunno, maybe it makes the music easier to expirience. i guess that's why i like to listen to them on my comp w/ my flying thru space screen saver on. soundarden is a band for all seasons. you shouldn't limit yerself to just listening to them when they come around or some shit like that. but you should just listen to them when you gotz a hankerin for dat lovely sound, that's what i do, but i do it mostly at night. Nadezhda "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:02:54 -0400 From: Kenneth Fuhrman Subject: Re: found SG/lyrics/literary devices that's funny, since i rarely read lyrics to songs i always thought that the "let me drown lyric was "damn They're all over the ground" anybody else have any sg lyrics that confused them? thanks adam--- ---------- > From: Tiffany Saint > To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: found SG/lyrics/literary devices > Date: Tuesday, August 12, 1997 3:39 AM > > 1. > Thanks to everyone who sent directions: I found the soundgarden sculpture > and I even videotaped it so I could capture a little bit of the sound for > later. > > 2. > On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, James Bartlett wrote: > > My favorite lyric would have to be, "Damn > > the water/Burn the wine" from Let Me Drown. I enjoy it because I can't > > tell what the hell it means. It's fun though. > > I've always thought these lines were a reference to the Catholic > practices of blessing water and drinking sacramental wine. > > Reaching back to an old thread about opposites... > > 3. > ***warning: lyrics are dissected below, if this bores you don't bother > ***to read on > > There are a number of literary terms that deal with the use of opposites > in poetry. Oxymoron, antithesis, and paradox are among them. > > A paradox generally means that the statement appears self-contradictory or > absurd at first glance, but upon closer inspection contains some truth. > "I got up feeling so down" is a possible example of a paradox. It sort of > depends on your perception of the original statement. I think the line > "the most important fool you forgot to see" from Mailman is a paradox > because it seems contracdictory to say "important fool" until you think > about what the "fool" is going to do to you for ignoring him. (I say him > because he is, after all, a mailMAN) > > The definition of oxymoron is very similar to paradox, but oxymoron is a > more general term for the combination of incongruous or apparently > contradictory terms to produce a special effect. "Whomsoever I've cured/ > I've sickened now/ Whomsoever I've cradled/ I've put you down" May be > an example of either oxymoron or paradox, depending on how you perceive > the lyrics at first hearing them. > > I'm not sure I can explain antithesis very well, although I think a lot of > the opposites quoted on the list fall into this category. My notes define > antithesis as "a literary device used to contrast ideas by using opposite > or different meanings or by listing alternate meanings". Obviously I > didn't take very good notes that day. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that a lot > of the lyrics could be called antithesis, such as "Everything I've held is > what I've freed" or "lives we make/never seem to ever get us anywhere/but > dead" or maybe "for all of your kisses/turned to spit in my face" > > I hope that's soundgarden related enough not to get my kneecaps busted by > the listthug... > > Tiffany > > /\/\^^/\/\ > Vampyre Cat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:10:30 -0400 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: Re: Ohh Yeah! "loud love" wasn't the only taste of chris's vocals and matt's drumming in wayne's world, "all night thing" was also in the movie. i'm not sure where, but i do remember the song. Nadezhda "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:05:00 -0500 From: Richard E Horner Subject: Spoonman and a SOMMS band? I got the Spoonman EP yesterday at the used CD store for $5!!!!! I almost paid $11 for it through the mail. Whew! Hooray for procrastination. I noticed that the infamouse Exit Stonehenge has no liner notes. Whats with this SOMMS band? We have a slight problem.....LOCATION. And even though I have a few cool names, I'm not putting them here 'cause I know I'll eventually use one of 'em. Do any of you wield a large amount of economic power? Like you are the CEO of some big company. If so I recommend starting a heavy metal radio staion in St. Louis because you will recieve 100% of the metal listeners in St. Louis. Rich I want to buy a Flying-V without pickups and a set of Seymour Duncan JB4 pickups! "Dying on your feet for Honest Abe" Soundgarden, Metallica, and Megadeth, Injustice for All http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/4984 .' `. .'/ __ ___ ______ _ _ _ __ \`. .'/ \/ || _||_ _/ /|| | | | | | / \ | `\. ' / /\/| || |_ | | / || | | | | |/ /\_\| |\\` / / | || _| | | /_||| | | | | || _ | _ \ / / | || |_ | | / || |_ | |_ | |\ \/ /| | \ \ / / | ||___| |_|/_/|_||___||___||_| \__/ | | \ \ / / |/ \| \ \ /.' `.\ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:51:38 -0400 From: Robbie Strickland Subject: Ultramega Unknown Here is the REAL song list for Ultramega Unknown (I'm at home now, so I have it with me :) 1. Cold Bitch 2. Exit Stonehenge 3. Birth Ritual 4. Like Suicide (acoustic) 5. She Likes Surprises 6. Spoonman (Steve Fisk Remix) 7. Show Me (from No Alternative) 8. New Damage (With Brian May, from Alternative NRG) 9. Seasons 10. Birth Ritual (from Singles soundtrack) 11. My Wave (live) 12. Jesus Christ Pose (live) 13. Beyond the Wheel (live) 14. Fell on Black Days (live) 15. Kickstand (live) SToNeTeMPLe I really recommend this cd, it seems like it has every b-side you could ever want :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:14:42 +0100 From: Deborah Baker Subject: Sweet Novaselic :-) From an interview with Krist and Yva from Sweet 75, September issue of Guitar World: GW: Do you have any thoughts on the Soundgarden breakup, on their legacy and impact on music in the Nineties> Novaselic: Oh, my God! Those guys had an impact *early*. I remember seeing them in 1985, when Chris played drums and had a Flock Of Seagulls haircut. They were doing something different. Everyone else was doing hardcore, but then the Melvins slowed down, Soundgarden slowed down, and that was it. The music was always quality stuff, and they sounded like a band that really had it together. When I heard they broke up, I got all choked up. I really love them and I'm happy for them, because they've never done anything, at least not to my knowledge, where they flew off and got crazy. They've always been very solid, very classy. So I'm sure they thought long and hard before they decided it was time to move on. They left at the top, and it wasn't messy as it often is. UkDeb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:00:29 -0400 From: Mike Smith Subject: soundgarden bashing.............others. i know on the list from time to time we bash an occasional band ,(bush,sublime,spicy chicks, match box 20, ex.) but what i wanna know, is+ has soundgarden ever openly bashed another band? or evan been implying that another band sucks, i know that kareokee is a slam at someone, or something, whatever. thats it. mike. "its nothing i cant do, its nothing i cant live" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:01:20 -0400 From: Dan Carbo Subject: Don't call me copycat! >some guy coppied me man. he's asking all the sommsters to start a band, well i >asked first. you can see it by looking at the date and time of his message, now >look at mine. don't fall into his trap fall into mine. copy catters is another thing >that sucks besides bush. I wasn't copying, I was agreeing with the post. Misunderstood, Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:25:07 -0400 From: Catherine Veit Subject: Re: u all know sublime sucks i apologize dan, do you forgive me? and to seth i just wanted to vent my thoughts because i knew probably 95% of you guys would probably agree w/ me, even you perhaps. MARRYMEKIM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:50:49 -0400 From: Maria Joseph Subject: EMP Hey, I was at MTV Online looking at the News area to see some SG stuff and I came across something, I am not sure if you know it already but I'll say it anyways. There's gonna be this "Experience Music Project" thing that's "A dynamic interactive music museum opening in Seattle in 1999." So, there was this link to it's website (www.experience.org) and I went there to look around. SG is under the "Northwest Passage" and at this place it has this big timeline with all of the Seattle bands. When you point your mouse to one of the bands, it draws a line connecting it with other Seattle bands.. so it shows how each Seattle band is connected with one another. At the SG site of this place, it has a list of all 7 people that were apart of SG and it has their name and the years they were apart of the band. When you click on their names it tells you a brief history about the person and the other bands they are in. There is also a RealPlayer clip of "Outshined".. As I looked around and checked out their vault I saw some stories they had and apparently there are gonna be some Seattle airfreshners or your fave Seattle bands.. Kewl, huh? They have other kewl stuff about Seattle here also and the great contributors of the sound. And their are clips from the SubPop thing. So, I guess that everyone should, like, go to Seattle in 1999 and maybe they'll see something kewl :) Later -Maria ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:46:13 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: a SG day It started before I even got up. I was dreaming that I was seeing them live in a tiny theatre with 2 of my best friends from the past. It was an indescribably weird show (the only downside of which was Darcy (!) joining them onstage, wearing penny loafers (ugh!)) that included Ben hanging upside down from the rafters declaring that it was okay to be a bat. It ended when my clock radio went off, waking me up with the 2nd half of Rhinosaur! Then after reading Justin's review, I had to listen to FOBD, and the video version, which led to me listening to all of SU. Then I went out on a quest for sacred relics (read SG rarities). I got in the car and the radio was playing Outshined!! When it was over, they played the usual crap, so I put in my DOTU cd. At the end of my shopping trip (which didn't score me any treasures for myself, but I found some for other people) when I got in the car, they played BIMH and followed it with Hendrix's Hey Joe!! Cool, or what?! The dj must have heard Kim say BIMH was the Hey Joe of the 90's or something. Think I'll go watch a vid. . . BTW, my friend is working hard to update and improve her Devilhead page. Check it out at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/2687/ and if you have anything you can contribute, please do. She's particularly looking for biographical info on bandmembers (except we have plenty on Ben), reviews of shows, and any cool pics. Jen Grover ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:05:36 -0400 From: Maria Joseph Subject: Re: BIG QUESTION Well, still here on the MTV Online site and still learning. I found out that it's called "Flyin' Traps" that Matt and 19 other drummers will be on.. coming this summer :) Look 4 it :) Kick Ass -Maria ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:27:42 PDT From: Myra Haza Subject: Scarry dreams..... Not all SG dreams are filled with joy & mirth. Last nite I had a scarry SG dream! Here it goes: My dream was that the reason SG wasn't a band any longer is because Chris and Matt were in a car wreck. Chris was badly injured! You think thats scarry...well...MATT WAS KILLED!!! I was petrified! I woke up and reasured myself that he is still alive! It sucked! --Myra Don't try to do it/Don't try to kill your time ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:43:16 -0400 From: Giuliana Garbini Subject: Re: Ohh Yeah! "Pushin' Forward Back" was in the movie "Benny and Joon". Much Love, Giuliana ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:32:03 -0400 From: Dave Nailling Subject: SOMMS band? Count me in! Howdy! If it was plausible, an SOMMS band would rock. I play guitar, to be specific an Epiphone Les Paul Standard (soon to be upgraded to a Gibson Les Paul Standard), through a bunch of pedals (Vox Wah Wah, Korg Tone Works Hyper Distortion, Boss Hyper Fuzz, MXR Phase 90, Rolls RFX Twin Spin (a chorus pedal), and a Boss DD-5 Digital Delay. Whew!) finally running into a Fender Hot rod Deluxe amp. If any SOMMSters are looking to come close to a Thaylish sound you might want to buy a Les Paul or SG copy (Of course, the real thing will do! Make sure they have humbucking pickups!), into a Wah Wah pedal (Vox and Crybaby Wah Wah pedals are fine), into a Korg Toneworks Hyper Distortion pedal (Folks, this thing is amazing!) and out to an amp (A tube one, preferably). Hope this helps any aspiring wheedlers. If any other SOMMSters have come close to getting a sound similar to the Master's (Thayil), or a sound similar to Cornell's (It's pretty easy), I'd love to hear it! Thanks for putting up with me, quite possibly the biggest gearhead in the world! -That Texan kid (Dave Nailling) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 12:32:38 +0000 From: Fiona Thiessen Subject: a couple of pics of CC in my hometown :) whilst hanging for any solo projects etc, anything slightly related gets me excited so... last night I received the latest Triple R (public radio station in Melbourne) subscriber magazine, and I was grinning from ear to ear when I saw Chris in it - twice! One of them is the standard serious CC look, but in the other Chris gives the camera a small smirk. Straining my eyes, I think he has the Nile Godess around his neck. well that's it. I keep trying to read the mag but my hands just keep flipping back to the pics! ;) Fiona ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:34:43 -0400 From: Mike Smith Subject: temple of the dog. can some one please send me the address to the temple of the dog site...... thanks. mike. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:34:47 -0500 From: NIKI FREER Subject: big day out... hey sommsters! many stories abound from this weary road traveler today! remember me post about the CC airbrushed tee that cost $85? well, today i went to wildwood with a friend and i ran across it and one other shirt. the one i was previously speaking about was *gorgeous* and the other one was in black and white and was good, but could have been much better. well, the beautiful one was CC's face from the Details cover in front of the BIMH desert background. = ) i walked into this store to the tune of "Your Savior" which i recognized right off, but couldn't remember what SG song it was or anything (total blank!) then it hit me and i yelped "temple of the dog!!!" and the guy at the counter kinda looked at me. so then i spotted the creation upon the wall and said to the guy, "um, can i ask you a real dumb- assed question?" "sure, why not?" he says. so i look at the other guy working there who looks like Jerry Garcia and say "can i just take a picture of that CC shirt up there?" he groans, but not badly. so he says "what can i get out of this deal?" so he asked me to go buy him a Mug root beer, and i could come back and take a picture. = ) so i did, it was cheap, and i got back to another SG song playing in the store. now, i can't remember what song due to the following occurances, but it may have been from LTL or UM OK. it was older. it may have been "Birth Ritual"... i really cannot recall. = ( i ask the guy (who is the artist of the shirt, and not so bad looking in his own right... = ) if they had all the SG cd's in a changer. Garcia guy says "oh yeah, it's all we listen to around here." as the artist give this "oh yeah" look and shakes his head in agreement. i am amazed. a SG fan, TWO SG fans in the same place who listen to them as much as I. so ANYWAY, i give him his soda, and he hands me this photo of the shirt from a big scrap-book. i'm confused. so i ask him "i can have this?" he says yeah. WOAH! i am floored by this. completely floored and speechless. the artist took the picture out of *his* scrap-book so *I* could have it! WOAH! Garcia goes "Well, if we let you take a picture from down there, you'd be at a weird angle and it wouldn't come out right..." i can't believe they actually *cared* enough to DO that!! so there i was babbling at them because of their kindness (what can i say? SG fans are the greatest people on earth!) and the artist pulls out another sheet from his scrap-book with another CC shirt he did, and would have given me that picture as well, he said, but it was the only pic of it he had and the shirt itself was at another store he runs, and if it got sold while he wasn't there he wouldn't have a shot of it. it was CC from the cover of Request when he did that solo interview with them back in 94. WOAH, this one was even better than the one i was staring at and holding a photo of. so i told him all about the CC painting i did of young 1988 CC and we got into this discussion about paints and how they're tougher to work with, but i *know* i could never aribrush, and certianly not like he could. AUGH! i was just SO happy! ALSO! here's another rocking discovery. you guys all know there were shirts released for SOMMS, right? not mailing list shirts, real SG-thought up shirts? well, I GOT TWO OF THEM! but the 2nd one is for my friend, so don't ask to buy it from me. the damned shirts cost me $25 each, but i LOVE it. the BMF wheel in white, with dark blue SG written above it, then mirror imaged below it. (black shirt, BTW) on the back is the "satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas" in the circle in dark blue, written just like on the CD itself, with a red handgun in the center with smoke coming from it's barrel. i don't know what significance the gun has, but the shirt just is very cool. they also had 1994 tour shirts that were *quite* ugly. this horrible splash of tye-dyed looking stuff (much like a really messed up version of the animal collage from SU) with all their stops in the SU tour listed on the back then 1994 written under their name. i would have bought it, but i spent $50 freaking dollars on those damn SOMMS shirts. = ) and a great, beautiful eddie vedder poster was bought for my friend. and i paid for parking and tolls and shit like that. i have $4 in my wallet right now and i'm going to college in 11 days. = ) i love it... mind riot ____ i must be pure and true i must contain my views ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOUNDGARDEN 1984-1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:49:12 +0000 From: "John D." Subject: Re: SG on MTV and the radio I listen to 98 rock also. I live in the Tampa area but what you said, goes for me to. 98 where I live still plays music we all like with the ocasinal suck ass song. -John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:52:24 -0500 From: Geoff Subject: Re: temple of the dog. There is an incredible wealth of information about Soundgarden, including links to the Temple of the dog and Hater websites, located at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden Geoff Mike Smith wrote: > > can some one please send me the address to the temple of the dog site...... > > thanks. > > mike. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:29:25 -0600 From: "Jason S. Lewis" Subject: Re: a SG day WIERD! I also had a dream last night where I saw SG in a small theater/gymnasium! The band was pretty up to date except for a long haired bare chested chris from his Sub Pop days. I was sitting next to Matt's sister and her husband (does Matt have a sister?) and she looked sick or something. At the end SG came out and danced with the crowd or something. after that the dream goes off in some other direction. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 23:36:49 -0400 From: Robbie Strickland Subject: Re: Ultramega Unknown > This isn't "new" is it? And I have heard some of the Spoonman > remix and thought it was kewl.. do u know where i can find more > of it? And where did you get it or... > > Kick Ass > > -Maria It's a funky remix.. it has approx. a minute of spoons, then it gets weird. I have only seen it on ultramega unknown. SToNeTeMPLe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 23:47:28 +0000 From: "John D." Subject: Re: Ultramega Unknown It;s also on the My wave import from Australia. The song is just ine of the funkiest things I have ever heard. -John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 01:24:17 -0400 From: Brian Coursen Subject: LEAST favorite lyric Well I was sitting here attempting to find my favorite soundgarden lyric. I couldn't narrow it down. So I figured well since I can't pick a favorite I would eliminate lyrics I didn't like and work from there. I still have trouble. I have yet to find a lyric I don't like nor can I pick an alltime favorite. If anyone out there can think of any lyric they don't like that I might agree with please post it. I need help, soundgarden can do no wrong. Thanks. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* IF THIS ISN'T MAKING SENSE IT DOESN'T MAKE IT LIES ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 12 Aug 1997 to 13 Aug 1997 ************************************************