Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 02:00:03 -0400 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 31 Jul 1997 to 1 Aug 1997 There are 15 messages totalling 460 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. t-shirts etc 2. NY cops like Soundgarden and The origin of Mind Riot? 3. FingazForLife 4. Spawn soundtrack (2) 5. it's a MTV thang! 6. Ben on prodigy 7. Spawn 8. Sorry other listers, but... 9. Chris Cornell's solo album 10. I did 11. I'm Cutting down... 12. Shroom, Bonnie, Caryn, Eliza etc keep me going =) 13. HEY WHERE IS EVERYBODY? 14. this place of cold decay... To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:26:40 +0000 From: Fiona Thiessen Subject: Re: t-shirts etc tonerkin wrote: > On the last tour they sold a long sleeved black tee with the > BMF wheel on the front(where a breast pocket would be) and Soundgarden > written down the sleeve. Very cool shirt! toni I got this one when they were here (Australia), as well as the JCP one. The former one can be purchased from SG's fan club (I'm sure I saw it in the catalogue they send you) w/out the Oz tour dates obviously ;) I know who printed the Australian ones and I think they still have some..not sure though, I've been meaning to check for ages. On a side note (just b/c it's quite a happy little tale). There is a music "magazine" here that basically just has posters but usually good competitions - so I check it out s'times, treating the newsagent like a library :) Anyway they had Hype! as a giveaway (this was back in Feb/March). The question for it was "what is the state that has the capital Seattle?". They also had another comp, giving away "Noise from theUnderground" - Michael Lavine's book - and the question for that was "who is on the cover?" (it's CC for anyone who doesn't have it). To enter the comps you're supposed to ring a 0055 number (really expensive), but I didn't want to give them my money just to tell them they'd stuffed up a question, and I had already bought and won a copy of Hype! So I sent them a letter informing them that their Seattle question was incorrect, and also answered the book question. Then I asked whether I could I get the book b/c I was such a smartass ;) Well guess what arrived at my doorstep yesterday?? So there you go...know your geography kiddies :) Fiona ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:17:42 -0500 From: Ben Timberlake Subject: NY cops like Soundgarden and The origin of Mind Riot? Or, at least one MY cop likes 'em: On Talk Soup tonight, they showed this clip from the RuPaul show where her cohost (I can't decide if the cohost is a man or a woman and I want to know so I can decide whether or not I find her/him/it attractive ;)) was randomly asking people to check out their apartments. She went into this one guy's apartment (he was the cop) and there was a BHS poster on the wall: the screaming ugly guy one. Also, more news from Barnes & Noble: I was looking in the graphic novels section and there was a comix (note: spelled with "x" instead of "cs") compendium called "Mind Riot". The author said the term was coined by Ice Climbers for when they find themselves at a paradoxical point in their ascent; a combination of being unable to move and the lower oxygen at high altitudes causes a distressing state called a mind riot. She likened this state to the point in a young comic collector's life when he/she has become bored with regular (Marvel/DC/superhero) comics and discovers comix (Sin City/R. Crumb/Peter Kuper/etc). She never specified when, exactly, this ice climber term came about, so it's hard to tell if they lifted it from Soundgarden or Chris had heard it and thought it apropos for his song (supports for the latter could be the several references to height and altitude in MR) or if it's another one of those crazy "artistic convergence" things. -- BadBen, who is now going to go synchronize "The Wizard of Oz" and Badmotorfinger Ben Timberlake KILL btimlake@nwu.edu YOUR btimlake@aol.com TELEVISION! "Ready or not, like it or not, here they come again. It's a shame, but you are just laughing." -- Tim DeLaughter, "Piranha" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:30:43 -0700 From: Fetal Bliss Subject: Re: FingazForLife I... hate... T-Shirt Now... Don't get excited about Fingaz4Life, 'cause I ordered it a few months back; they didn't have it and wouldn't get any more (it's out of print). They said they'd update their site, but obviously that's bullshit. But if you do end up getting it, tell me so I can gut them. Tee-hee. ^_^ Scott Stop you're trying to bruise my mind I can do it on my own Stop you're trying to kill my time It's been my death since I was born I don't remember half the time If I'm hiding or I'm lost But I'm on my way ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:45:33 -0400 From: Eric Boyce Subject: Spawn soundtrack >>I really don't think Cornell or any other SG member will be on the Spawn Sndtrk. but on the Movie, it should be cool if it follows the comic book closely, because I thought when Spawn first came out it was pretty cool. I might pick up the sndtrk. anyway to check out Korn and Metallica ( if it doesn't sound like LOAD) Gary>> Just got my Rolling Stone yesterday with a review of the Spawn soundtrack and looks pretty disappointing. Turns out it's all collaborations between metal and techno bands ala Judgement Night ( with rap and metal). I don't know i guess i could have seen maybe Kim collaborating with one of the techno bands, but i think it's just as well Soundgarden wasn't on it. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:18:36 -0500 From: "B. Kinser" Subject: Re: Spawn soundtrack On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Eric Boyce wrote: > >>I really don't think Cornell or any other SG member will be on the Spawn > Sndtrk. but on the Movie, it should be cool if it follows the comic book > closely, because I thought when Spawn first came out it was pretty cool. I > might pick up the sndtrk. anyway to check out Korn and Metallica ( if it > doesn't sound like LOAD) > Gary>> > > Just got my Rolling Stone yesterday with a review of the Spawn soundtrack and > looks pretty disappointing. Turns out it's all collaborations between metal > and techno bands ala Judgement Night ( with rap and metal). I don't know i > guess i could have seen maybe Kim collaborating with one of the techno bands, > but i think it's just as well Soundgarden wasn't on it. > > Eric > Soundgarden could very easily fit on this soundtrack. The Moby remix of "Dusty" would fit the bill of metal+techno. Not that I'm saying Soundgarden are really metal. No more so than Soul Coughing fits the metal side of its collaboration on the soundtrack. BK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:27:17 -0400 From: Rachel Potter Subject: it's a MTV thang! this i what i do when i'm bored... here's what MTV said: VERVE PIPE, WEILAND JOIN CORNELL, AMOS ON SOUNDTRACK The Verve Pipe and Stone Temple Pilots frontman Scott Weiland will join Tori Amos and former Soundgarden singer Chris Cornell on the soundtrack to the upcoming film adaptation of Charles Dickens' "Great Expectations." Scott Weiland's contribution, a solo effort while his STP-mates work with singer Dave Coutts on another project, will also feature the touch of producers extraordinaire the Dust Brothers. As we first reported in May, Amos and Cornell were the first names to surface in connection with the soundtrack. The Dickens' film and corresponding album will feature Cornell's first post-Soundgarden recording project. Cornell contributes a track called "Sunshower" which he recorded with members of the band Eleven. "Great Expectation's" modern-day make-over is set to hit the big screen this winter, and stars Gwyneth Paltrow, Ethan Hawke, and Robert De Niro. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:33:13 -0400 From: Cathy Furlani Subject: Ben on prodigy ok, I bought the prodigy disc - actually not too bad - sounds like one guy is really busy with the sampling and three guys just wait around to sing. question - which song is ben on - there are only one or two songs that might have a live drummer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:26:44 -0400 From: Igor Nepomnyashchiy Subject: Spawn I got the spawn soundtrack yesturday. There are no Soundgarden songs on it. Hte Metallica song is "For whom the bell tolls", remixed by DJ Spooky. It sounds weird. Also, for all you metallica maniacs, Kirk Hammett did a song with Orbital, which is called Satan, and its basically the word satan said over and over again. if anyone wants more info on the soundtrack, E-mail me personally and not through the mailing list. Does anyone know where I can find "screaming Life" in nyc at a reduced price? I'm at a shortage for money. Thanx. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:18:38 -0700 From: Bonnie Subject: Sorry other listers, but... I really have no other way to get this message individually to those who might really care (or even just be *slightly* interested)...but, Please delete my other address of cochran_bonnie/sbctc@ctc.edu. That was my work addie and I am no longer employed there. Kind of hate for them to go in and have to clean out somms and personal messages, ya know? I'm still connected, alive and well through bjc@olywa.net, so keep em coming! I'm doing fine and everything is okay. Unfortunately, I had to dump *everything* from my work computer, which is where just about everything SOMMS related was stored. I'll do my best to get the addies of the folks I talked to regularly (or at least before this major mailing slump came my way). Feel free to mail me and say "Hi" so I have your addie, or be patient until I get my lazy ass motivated. It's about time I loaded up the SG cds and got to work, eh? Until then, Bonnie (who's starting that new chapter in her life, much like our pals formerly known as SG...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:13:12 -0400 From: Brian Coursen Subject: Chris Cornell's solo album About a month ago on new yorks K-rock that Chris's solo album was almost finished that it had and ambient(?) sound, and that it would be out in a couple of months. I heard this on two different occasions and from two different dj's. Has anyone else heard this? Or is able to possibly confirm it? When I heard this I immediately joined this list. But only recently found out that the messages I was sending were not getting to this list. I have been reading every day hoping that I would read that someone else had heard the same news. However after a month I haven't heard of any confirmation and I have begun to doubt if this was true. I knew he was already at work on the album. But I want to know what and ambient sound is and if this album really would be out in a couple of months like they said. Every time the play a Soundgarden song, I wait untill the end to hear what they might say about them. However I haven't heard anything else about the album since. I only heard that Chris had been qouted saying he wanted to make a poppier sounding album. The dj went on to say "oh no can you imagine Chris singing Pavement type stuff. Oh Kim where are we when we need you? Are these all rumors? I don't know I just hope that someone knows or has at least heard the same rumors. At least we can talk about what it would sound like if Chris was doing Pavement type stuff, or doing an ambient record? *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ IF THIS ISN'T MAKING SENSE IT DOESN'T MAKE IT LIES *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:19:37 PDT From: Myra Haza Subject: I did Yeah..I heard Shroom's phone call on the rockline interview. I thought it was hilarious when Matt whispered.."Call the police!" -Myra "I'm your truth telling lies" --Metallica.."Sad But True" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:36:26 -0500 From: Gary Rees Subject: I'm Cutting down... Seth wrote me and told me I post too much and are annoying everybody so i will cut down to only 1 or 2 messages a day and the max 3. I hope you enjoyed your day without my posts.... Well while I'm here i'll ask a question: 1. what BEN SHEPERD is on prodigy: the fat of the land? Is it true? 2. When does the great expectations sndtrk. come out? do you think the rest of the sndtrk. is gonna be all soft and mushy? 3.YOU WILL ALL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT I WILL BE LEAVING FOR A WEEK ( especially Seth- just kidding!!!!)TO MY HOMETOWN IN RICHLAND, WA. 4. Inform of anything else you want me to know. 5. Richard horner do you hate collective soul because they are sorta SG rip-offs? the wreck is going down... Gary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:09:39 -0400 From: Alissa Corsi Subject: Shroom, Bonnie, Caryn, Eliza etc keep me going =) Well..... so to speak..... ;o)~ In a message dated 7/27/97 7:30:16 PM, Bonnie wrote: <> I know this is a little late.... but I was away for college orientation. I just wanted to comment saying, Bonnie is very lucky, and this above statement is so true. For my experiences, my parents thought I was always too young to go to a Soundgarden concert. Then at last year's Lollapalooza, my big chance.... they were even a mere half an hour away from me.... my mom decided that the Lollapalooza festival was too "dangerous", "wild", and other such crap for a 17 year old to go. I cried and cried for days, especially after this was my last chance at going, the first chance dashed by a backstabber who promised tickets, then kept them for herself. To this day, especially after the break up, my mom is probably reminded of the whole ordeal once a week. And I can tell she feels guilty. I try not to be bitchy about it and completely mean, b/c I see her standpoint as a concerned parent and that she loves me, but it's so hard for me sometimes, especially listening to Down on the Upside. Songs like Blow Up the Outside World and Overfloater only make me depressed. I used to wish for about two months after the break up for Soundgarden to miraculously get back together, but I finally realized it was over, and I was never going to see them perform live. I can only hope to maybe someday see Hater, and Chris play, and whatever the Kimster decides to do. I buy a lot of boots b/c of this. It's my way of having my own private Soundgarden concert. They may not all be quality boots, but it's the only thing I have. I stick in a video boot like Mesa, Arizona and I practically freak out in front of the screen. But, like I said, it's all I have. I've always dreamed of meeting the guys and seeing them perform, the latter I know will never happen. But I guess the point of this post is... go read the archives Bonnie mentioned and others. At least for me, they help a lot. I love to hear about people's experiences at concerts and how they met the band. I can not even explain my joy and entertainment when Shroom relayed to me for two hours her experience hanging w/ the band. I made sure she boasted every detail to me, and even though the jealousy was there (hell, wouldn't you be? ;o), her excitement jumpstarted mine. So the moral to this post is: Go and read the archives to keep yourselves in touch even more w/ how Soundgarden was during that HEAVENLY period of time that was their's. At least for me, these experiences keep me going. =) Thanks for your time, sorry for the looooong post, and have a SOUNDGARDELICIOUS day!!!!!! =)~ Birthdays to watch for in September: Kim's, mine (hint hint ;o), and Ben's. Maybe SOMMS should throw us a huge, massive party? I'd share my party w/ those boys ANYTIME!!!! *kiss* "Remember I love you, love you" love, lissa =) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:43:27 -0500 From: Gary Rees Subject: HEY WHERE IS EVERYBODY? Where is everybody c'mon no messages in the last 5 hours? what's the deal? C'mon We need a good topic... Gary Richard, you're right I heard A live version of " precious declaration" (I think its thats it) and the singer sounds like shit. Also the drummer sounds REALLY BAD, it almost sounds as if it's sampled or something. My radio station plays shit like this all the time new STP, Collective soul, and they all think its great. They hardly play soundgarden and I've called them up mto request something and they don't play it. it's like a really fucking awesome song( The day I tried to live) and they don't PLAY IT! i finally called them up and told them " your music sucks shit and you never play my fucking song ." I heard a loud " what?" and then I hung up. Later on I turned on the radio to see if they said anything about it and they did. the announcer said " jesus that was a really Rude message, but up next Lryrnrd Skynrd and Sammy Hagar." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:47:13 +1000 From: justin nicholls Subject: this place of cold decay... On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Richard E Horner wrote: > I jsut saw the video for Johnny Cash's cover of Rusty Cage, and boy did > it suck. Johnny is no Chris Cornell. The song just isn't the same when > you can understand the lyrics. The worst part has to be that Jazzmaster > that his guitarist is playing. What a piece of shit. That thing has the > worst tone I've heard in a while. I think Johnny should've at least > tried to scream like Chris. sorry richard, but I think you may have missed the point. johnny cash didn't record 'rusty cage' so that he could sound like chris, he covered it because it is a good song, a song worthy of reinterpretation (the key concept you seemed to have overlooked). I haven't seen the video, so I can't comment on whether it is a good one or not. I *do* know, however, that johnny cash is an extremely talented and respected musician, with a long and varied musical career. in light of both artist's own histories and accomplishments, attempting to compare chris cornell to johnny cash or vice versa ("johnny is no chris cornell") is fruitless. asking one to sound like the other (ie. wishing johnny would "scream like chris") is senseless. I can appreciate that you may not like this version of 'rusty cage'. I'll even agree that it is not as good as the original (although I don't think hearing/understanding the lyrics is a negative, especially in this case). just keep in mind that when an artist is covering someone else's work, the last thing they want to do is sound the same. to do otherwise would be pointless and certainly irrelevant, don't you think? btw, kim used a jazzmaster on a number of the songs from _down on the upside_. justin ----- what's in the way we've been that's left my love paper thin was it there to begin with? words by stone gossard ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 31 Jul 1997 to 1 Aug 1997 ***********************************************