Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 02:00:03 -0400 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 30 Jun 1997 to 1 Jul 1997 There are 24 messages totalling 651 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. alive CD+ 2. fuck (5) 3. Yet more look-a-likes! (2) 4. BHS and 4thofJuly/show me the gold/check the damned lyric sheets!! (2) 5. check the damned lyric sheet (2) 6. FW: fuck 7. Bowowow Yippie Yo 8. More Sg in SFW 9. I get it! 10. FUCK (3) 11. CD cases 12. Chris' lyrics 13. Rumors... 14. german imports, hater.... 15. Spoonman acoustic??? To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 02:07:46 -0500 From: Geoff Subject: Re: alive CD+ I believe the major problem with the CD+ is having the most current driver for your cdrom drive. Also, some older cdrom drives are unable to read CD+ discs. So if the most current driver does not allow you to read the disc, it is most likely that your drive simply cannot read it. Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 19:56:11 +1300 From: Stuart Appleby Subject: Re: fuck Steven Russell Jr. wrote: > > Warning: The following post contains material which may be unsuitable for > some readers. The unintended or unauthorized reproduction, sale or > distribution of this product is strictly prohibited. Failure to obey these > laws may result in fines or imprisonment. My employer is not responsible > for any of the views or opinions which are expressed in the following post. > And any similarity of person's portrayed to any actual person, living or > dead, is purely incidental. Viewing of this post is not recommended for any > person's who may be subject to the following conditions: Dizziness, nausea, > confusion or drowsiness caused by stroboscopic or other types of rapidly > flashing light; sleepless, agitation or aggression caused by the continuous > viewing of television for abnormally long periods of time, disorientation, > panic or memory loss caused by the involuntary reception of large quantities > of simultaneous external stimuli or any other type of abnormal physiological > behaviour which can be triggered by unexpected atmospheric or electrical > field anomalies. I recommend that in the event of accidental ingestion of > excess portions of this post..notify authorities immediately. Man that must have taken a long time to write, especially out of your head. Are you actually a person, or a robot? <> wow, that must be really funky. hasn't Kim got a really American voice, from what i hear - motorvision, one minute of silence - so i don't see that he could be much of a vocalist. Is he as good as Hiro? BTW what do they actually say on OMOS? does anyone know? from Graham:) ps my video machine recently chewed up Louder Than Live as well. I am considering repairing it. Boy is my face red! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 02:10:52 -0700 From: Tiffany Saint Subject: Re: Yet more look-a-likes! On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, NIKI FREER wrote: > Hey guys, i forgot all my Kim look-a-likes! i have seen tons of Kim's > wandering the parimeters of Pennsylvania! Your story reminded me of an alleged Kim sighting in northern california. My friend said she saw Kim Thayil in Wildwood Music (in Arcata CA) buying a guitar a few months ago. I really doubt it was the real Kim Thayil- I'm sure it must have been a look-alike. Tiffany /\/\^^/\/\ VC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:38:20 -0400 From: Joe Petersen Subject: BHS and 4thofJuly/show me the gold/check the damned lyric sheets!! i was listening to Superunknown [the album] yesterday and it was on black hole sun, and after it was over i skipped it to 4th of july really sort of without thinking about it and then i kind of had a realization. these two songs (BHS and 4th) share a connection. and i dont mean totally lyrically either, even though both kind of seem to connote some kind of apocalypse, imo. its hard to explain, but this is how it works in my head: 4th of July is the end of the world and Black Hole Sun is peoples' reactions to it. i mean, you dont even have to read the words, just listen to the music. the sheer ominousness of that 4th of July riff, and then the pleading, desperate melody of Black Hole Sun... they just sort of fit the roles. and not only the music, but the vocal melody. the bored (not boring) monotony in Chris' voice in Black Hole Sun shows the pleading apathy (kind of an oxymoron, but i know what i mean) of people. and the utter foreboding of the 4th of july melody just kind of seems like an event, like the gut-wrenching end of the planet, and as the song progresses, you hear the harmonizing vocals as a menacing scream in the background. these songs dont even have to have lyrics, and [what i assume to be] their meaning gets across. ok, ive read too much into this, but i like doing that. on a lighter note... people with the No Alternative compilation know the song "Show Me" in which Chris sings the Ben-penned lyrics: "show me, show me, show me the gold." okay, and were all familiar with the hollywood catch phrase of '96: "Show me the money!" from Jerry Maguire written and directed by Cameron Crowe. now im sure you are thinking what im thinking right now... switch "gold" and "money" and you have Soundgarden (namely Ben) creating the catch phrase of the year a few years beforehand. i know Mr. Crowe (a huge talent in his own right--my favorite writer/director) didnt "steal" the phrase, but maybe he was inspired by the lyric. we all know that he *at least* worked with Chris in the movie Singles in which Chris had a bit part. i also hear that Chris auditioned for Matt Dillons role (one of the leads), but didnt get it because he didnt have the box office draw (for non-sommsters) of Dillon. but i dont know how extensive the relationship goes, but i do know that Crowe was thanked in the liner notes of Louder than Love... speaking of liner notes... the whole shitting/shedding thing with Outshined was REALLY pissing me off, because the BMF album included the lyrics. WHY THE HELL CANT YOU CHECK THE LYRIC SHEET!?!?!?!?!?!? goddamn!! i needed to get that off my chest. and if you dont own a copy, you can check seths site, it has the lyrics for the less fortunate non-BMF owners. i was reading all the feedback really shaking my head. i know you people arent stupid, but think about it a minute: if you really want to know what someone is saying in a song, and you have a lyric sheet two feet away from you... HELLO!! PUT THE PUZZLE TOGETHER PANCHO! sorry i didnt mean to offend anyone, but it really got to me... ok, ive ranted enough... keep gardening, --LocoJoe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:08:41 -0700 From: Fetal Bliss Subject: Re: check the damned lyric sheet > really want to know what someone is saying in a song, and you have a lyric > sheet two feet away from you... Yes, in the LYRICS, it's "shedding," but the frontman doesn't ALWAYS follow what's written. It is getting tiresome; as previously suggested, interpret it for yourself. And actually, the sheet is in another room. ^_^ Scott Eyes to sun, she lays in peace Eyes bear complacence Brown, the meadow grows tall to the sun Seasons have come, they have gone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:08:09 -0400 From: "Lane, Karen" Subject: FW: fuck Kyle Petty also has "daddy told me don't you ever take no Fuckin Shit (double dirty words). Have you ever read some of the interviews with these guys. They are adults who use expletives as part of their life (like many of the rest of us). I don't think there's any question he is saying shitting. It makes sense. ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:48:31 -0400 From: Anna Mehrer Subject: Bowowow Yippie Yo Whilst we're on the topic of dogs.....would someone explain to me why = many Seattle bands make frequent references to dogs? You know: in that = one STP tune where/when the dogs find her; Temple of the Dog; where the = dogs are shedd-itting; and some others I cannot think of right now. Isn't = there a dog on one of PJ's album covers also? Sorry if this is an old thread, folks.... --anna __________________________________________________________________________= _____ >i think were all missing the point here sommsters! its not weather the = dog >is shiting or sheading. the real question is, "is the dog a die hard = fan?" yes, the doggie certainly is a die hard fan. he's got all 6 albums (vinyl = & CD), every single ever released, SOMMS, every boot, every side project, every soundtrack, every comp w/ a Sg song on it, "singles" on video, every vid on tape (including the unedited versions- don't ask me how he managed that!), every poster, every book, every article, every picture, = Sg dog dishes, a custom made collar w/ the UMOK "SG" embroidered on it, he knows every fact, knows what kind of car CC drives, he's seen them play 100 times, AND, whenever he's feeling sad, howls FOBD. "ow ow ow ooooooowwwwww ooww oooww ow ow ow ow ow owwwwwww ooooooowww!!!!!" now how's THAT for a die hard fan!!! ~Lorraine ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by telekomus.com with ADMIN;28 Jun 1997 20:27:05 -0400 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (206.241.12.19) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM = (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <5.D68B4F34@VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM>; = Sat, 28 Jun 1997 20:25:09 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV release 1.8c) = with NJE id 1017 for SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 20:24:41 = -0400 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with BSMTP id 9924; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 20:24:31 -0400 Received: from MIT.EDU (18.72.1.2) by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) = with TCP; Sat, 28 Jun 97 20:24:30 EDT Received: from mailsrv1.pcy.mci.net by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA22344; Sat, = 28 Jun 97 20:24:52 EDT Received: from PC_merlin.dwc.internetMCI.com (usr18-dialup7.mix2.Boston.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET = (PMDF V5.1-8 #10045) with SMTP id <01IKMAELWW9299EA9I@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for = somms@mit.edu; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 20:23:50 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; X-MAPIextension=3D.TXT; charset=3DUS-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Priority: Normal References: Conversation <970628054443_-259979042@emout17.mail.aol.com> = with last message <970628054443_-259979042@emout17.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: = Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 08:13:47 -0700 Reply-To: Raine From: Raine Subject: Re: outshined, covers To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: <970628054443_-259979042@emout17.mail.aol.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:05:04 -0400 From: Rachel Potter Subject: More Sg in SFW Also in SFW there is a short segment of JCP (video) playing on a tv!!! Check it out! -Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:50:59 -0500 From: Richard E Horner Subject: Re: Yet more look-a-likes! I could almost garauntee that this asn't Kim because he has a deal with FMIC who own Guild guitars and Fender. THey give him his stuff and he gets some pictures of him holding it. Pretty good deal, eh? Rich On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 02:10:52 -0700 Tiffany Saint writes: >On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, NIKI FREER wrote: >> Hey guys, i forgot all my Kim look-a-likes! i have seen tons of >Kim's >> wandering the parimeters of Pennsylvania! > > >Your story reminded me of an alleged Kim sighting in northern >california. >My friend said she saw Kim Thayil in Wildwood Music (in Arcata CA) >buying a guitar a few months ago. I really doubt it was the real Kim >Thayil- I'm sure it must have been a look-alike. > >Tiffany > > > >/\/\^^/\/\ > VC > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:38:28 -0600 From: Scott Brooks Subject: Re: check the damned lyric sheet >Yes, in the LYRICS, it's "shedding," but the frontman doesn't ALWAYS >follow what's written. > This whole thing is starting to bug me, so I thought I'd pit in my two bits. I have heard quite a few songs that have the lyrics changed in the liner. For example, on a Pearl Jam song (I can't remember which one), he says "get out of my fuckin' face" while in the lyrics, it says "get out of my lucky face." I could see Chris doing the same thing with "shedding" and "shitting." I'll bet it is "shitting," too. See ya, Scott ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOUNDGARDEN 1984-97 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:01:43 -0400 From: Anna Mehrer Subject: I get it! OK-no need to e-mail me nore messages--I have been adequately informed = from various sources that STP is not from Seattle. I apologize if this has inconvenienced anyone. Thanks for focusing on the heart of the message, though. Smiles everyone! Smiles! Anna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:25:15 -0400 From: Mike Smith Subject: Re: BHS and 4thofJuly/show me the gold/check the damned lyric sheets!! lyric sheets dont mean shit! for all of you out there who thought that the lyric sheet was the end all answer to lyrical questions, your wrong. so dont bash the people who arnt checking them. there are plenty of deveations between what is written and what is actually being sung on the album. im sure that each sg album can yeild us at "least" 1 or 2 examples of this. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:39:56 -0500 From: NIKI FREER Subject: Re: fuck Steve the bootleg god wrote: >Kim sings? about his penis in "Exit Stonehenge" i have always thought this was Chris singing... anyone else? cause i could swear to you it's CC, cause as soon as the "song" ends, you hear chris say something... "Is that it?" or something like that... hmmmm. mind riot ____ long time coming many served the few... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOUNDGARDEN 1984-1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:28:36 -0400 From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Re: fuck I think it's CC singing Exit Stonehenge too. It sounds like Chris. May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:24:37 -0400 From: Jentje Subject: Re: FUCK I always just assumed it was Chris. I mean sounds kinda different then he does on any other song. But in songs where his voice is ruff like that it does sound similar so I don't know..... But the spoken part at the end ("is that it?") sounds a lot like his voice. Toodles!! ~>Jenn "Stomach's burning alcohol I must've burned a bottle full And you ain't got a chance In fucking hell tonight!!!!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 19:49:26 -0400 From: Elric&Dagny Subject: Re: FUCK Jentje wrote: > > I always just assumed it was Chris. I mean sounds kinda different then > he does on any other song. But in songs where his voice is ruff like that > it does sound similar so I don't know..... But the spoken part at the end > ("is that it?") sounds a lot like his voice. Hi Guys! I was just wondering the same thing the day before this thread started! IMO, it does not sound like Chris, although I would definitely say that it's him at the end. I assumed it was Kim, only because I've heard everyone else's voices, and it doesn't sound like the other 3. You can tell that this is a Kim-inspired song just by the way the music sounds, so I figured he got the "honor" of doing the vocals. :) Come on, all you veteran Sommsters! Has this been discussed before? Someone with some knowledge needs to enlighten us. Life Rules! Dagny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:13:52 -0400 From: Mike Smith Subject: Re: fuck it is chris. he says it himself the last time they were on rockline. some guy called in and asked "who does vocals on exit stonehenge"? and chris says it was him, then goes on to joke about how thats the new direction the band is going with there music. mike __________________________ only bending when you break __________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 19:36:46 -0700 From: Fetal Bliss Subject: CD cases OK, CD jewel cases are easy to come by, but what can I do for damaged double-cases or digipacks? Anyone know where I can get them replaced, and if so, for what? Thanks & later, Scott Eyes to sun, she lays in peace Eyes bear complacence Brown, the meadow grows tall to the sun Seasons have come, they have gone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:38:05 -0500 From: NIKI FREER Subject: Re: FUCK you wrote: >Come on, all you veteran Sommsters! Has this >been discussed before? Someone with some >knowledge needs to enlighten us. i *am* a vetern sommster. and i think it's Chris Cornell singing the words to Exit Stonehenge. how's that for knowledge? mind riot (what is this place coming to?) ____ long time coming many served the few... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOUNDGARDEN 1984-1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:38:39 -0400 From: Adam Nowinski Subject: Re: Chris' lyrics hello--- Well in "Kyle Petty, Son of Richard" there is the line, "...faster than a fucking flash of light". jesus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:07:26 -0600 From: Vasant Ramamurthy Subject: Re: fuck >chris sings at least one of the 7 dirty words on.... > >Gun - "fuck it up" >Big Dumb Sex - um...."fuck you" >Kyle Petty, Son of Richard - "daddy didn't raise no fucking fool" >Ty Cobb - "fuck you all" i've always wondered, what are the 7 words you can't say on TV? i've never seen that george carlin sketch (it is his, right?) vasant ------------ vr1@ix.netcom.com "Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals...except the weasel." - Homer Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 19:20:49 -0700 From: "V. Anselmo" Subject: Rumors... On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Joe Petersen wrote: > i also hear that Chris auditioned for Matt Dillon's role (one of the > leads), but didn't get it because he didn't have the box office draw > (for non-sommsters) of Dillon. This is the 2nd time I've read this nonsense on this list. This never happened. -Vikki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:47:12 -0400 From: Brian Mozingo Subject: german imports, hater.... hey, i've been silent on the list for a long time...probably due to the fact that i know half of the stuff that you guys know about soundgarden. anyway, i was in a local record store last weekend, and i saw a cool german import cd from soundgarden. it was the "nosebleed" cd that consists of a live recording from san francisco in 1988. the set list is: hunted down, all your lies, mood for trouble, gun, thank you, flower, i love you, something on you, head injury, circle of power, incessant mace, earache my eye. unfortunately, i had already spent out when i had found it, so i'm letting the list know in case someone out there wants to get it for what it costs at the store. the dude doesn't know anything about bootlegs...my luck! the cd is only $13.95. if someone wants to pay me that for it, i will go back and pick it up before someone else does. just let me know.. also, he had 3 copies of the "spoonman" cd single that include a few live tracks on them. the coolest thing, though, is that he had a german import cd that was released on subpop records. it is a 6 song cd that contains some songs from the subpop 200 release. in it are songs from tad, nirvana, mudhoney, green river, the fastbacks, and soundgarden's "sub pop rock city", which wasn't released on anything else except for the subpop 200 comp., right?? anyway, i thought that was cool and i had to have it, so i got it for the low price of only $5.99!!!! also, x-tra props go out to everybody on SOMMS for letting my ignorant ass know about hater. i finally checked out one of their cds....i think it's their first....and i have it on hold. thanks for letting me in on another cool band out there. later..... "six miles six miles high, ten feet wide and fit to die, fit to die, a damned good buy, a damn goodbye..." - A. Epley (Shiner).... Brian34295@aol.com dead to the world ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:59:28 EST From: Saskia Becher Subject: Spoonman acoustic??? Hey I've been listening to Stolen Prayers a lot lately and I really dig the version of Spoonman on it and it got me thinking (shock horror!) does anyone know of an acoustic version of Spoonman, thats if SG ever did one... any ideas??? Sassy sbecher@selenite.agso.gov.au ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We are born with our eyes closed and our mouths open, and we spend our whole lives trying to reverse that mistake of nature - Dale Turner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 30 Jun 1997 to 1 Jul 1997 ***********************************************