From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 30 Apr 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 02:33:14 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 30 Apr 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: The Really really real reason SG split Susan Silver Article Re: auction Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 29 Apr 1997 please let it not be true Wyatt Lilly SNL performance Rage and J Files RAGE Re: SNL performance Spotlight Rolling Stone article chris vs. gavin contest Soundgarden Tribute Matt news Re: a lifetime searching for something... Rage this Saturday ------------------------------------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_And=E9r?= Subject: Re: The Really really real reason SG split On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Ben "Flea" Burnsed wrote: > > Billy Corgan cries. > > ....as opposed to...???? Weeping. /martin. ------------------------------ From: ooyesiku@brynmawr.edu (Olukemi Oyesiku) Subject: Susan Silver Article Hey there Somms people, I also tried accessing the Susan Silver article from the Suntimes and I did not get through, the FILE was NO FOUND. Does anyone have it? Maybe someone printed it? If so, sould anyone maybe put it on the Digest? Thanks!! - --Kemi ------------------------------ From: DustyGrrl@aol.com Subject: Re: auction Wow, theres like a TON of autographed guitars theyre auctioning off. Jeez, I WISH I was RICH!!!!!!!!!!! (incl signed guitars acdc, courtney, soundgarden, etc)... Any of you guys rich? You'll have to check out that web site! I wonder how much they'll sell for? Carol ;) >In a message dated 97-04-29 01:16:47 EDT, you write: >Subj: auction > Date: 97-04-29 01:16:47 EDT > From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (Lee Christensen) >> To: somms@MIT.EDU > OK got to: http://www.streammedia.com/auctionline/ > and you get big on a SG guitar signed by the band...it's for a cancer > research fund or something..so it goes to a good cause if you win. > Just thought I would throw it in anway. > umm that's it for me and my once a year posting :) > seeya > Lee ***** >> ------------------------------ From: al589314@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Alba) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 29 Apr 1997 >> You are right. Besides, Chris Cornell is mine, all mine! Come here= >,=20 >>Chris you stud! :) Hee hee. Just kidding. >> Really, I'll bet Chris gets tired of this kind of crap all the time= >. =20 >>Who are these people trying to impress anyway? > >>Later, > >>Michael Apple > >- ---Dam you Mike! Me and fetal girl dont need your competition!!! =20 > >(disclaimer---Im not lusting for Chris, that poor guys over-lusted for) > >Carol ;) =20 wow, I thought Chris was possesed by Shroom... ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: please let it not be true ben goes to devilhead. brian wood goes to mad season. i know the seattle music scene is incestuous, but this is getting out of hand... not to mention the fact that brian wood's voice is just... NOTHING, can't hold a candle to layne or mark lanegan. there are a zillion lead vocalists out there that would be more interesting... and not that i'm saying that it's going to happen, but hey, CHRIS could sing for mad season (though i bet he won't). =20 personally, i'd rather hear mc cready sing (and yes, i have heard him sing). - ----------------- from Microsoft Music Central: [snip] Meanwhile, Mike McCready still hasn't given up his side project Mad=20 Season (but we do hear he longs to change the name), and we understand=20 he's still auditioning singers but is already quite enamored of Brian=20 Wood, the lead singer of Devilhead and brother of the legendary Andy=20 Wood, lead singer of Mother Love Bone, who tragically died of a heroin=20 overdose in 1990. Mother Love Bone also featured PJ bassist Jeff Ament=20 and guitarist Stone Gossard =97 and was the precursor of Pearl Jam.=20 http://musiccentral.msn.com/MCGen/ReEntry?theurl=3Dhttp%3A//musiccentral.ms n.com/TotallyLive - --------- - --caryn ------------------------------ From: "mcinturff, dylan" Subject: Wyatt Lilly This isn't really important, but I thought I'd share it with everybody anyway. We have a local record store called Cheap Thrills Records. The guy who owns it, Wyatt Lilly, has been tooling around on the guitar for a few years, and has recently started playing at a local club on open mic night. He plays Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan covers. Last Saturday night he opened for a local band at that same club, and after playing Delia and Ring of Fire, broke into RUSTY CAGE, Johnny Cash-style!! He told me later it was for me! Well, I thought it was nice! Dylan ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: SNL performance Hello. Sorry if this was mentioned before already, but when SG was on SNL, did anyone else notice that on Matt's bass drum, it said "Go Sonics" on it? I noticed it a few days ago, and I thought that it was very cute. Thanks. - -antonia ------------------------------ From: "Saskia Becher" Subject: Rage and J Files I just want to pick up on Bronwyns thread about requesting JCP on Recovery.... while you are there I think that it is high time that there was a J File on Soundgarden so that we can mourn in a proper fashion.. on the lower half of the page there is a feedback box to make comments and that is where I have been pleading our case, so to speak (I think that they are gonna get sick of me soon.hehehehe) The URL for this is: www.abc.net.au/triplej/jfile.htm. Please help us out..... Sassy ------------------------------ From: Me Subject: RAGE This is my first post even though I've been on the list since last November, so please bear with me. In regards to the RAGE session with Chris, I believe the first vidoe to be played was Spoonman, then I think Outshined then JCP, I was too drunk to remember the rest of it, suffice to say that on that same night, there was also Pearl Jam, and Alice in Chains after Soundgarden. I do know that rage does sometimes REPLAY visiting bands doing the rage thing, so you never know! (they've done it with pearl Jam and Nirvana and AIC etc...) Considering the fact that I was paralitic I might be wrong, but the reason I remember was coz Chris had the HAIR CUT!, so if your gonna slam me, could you at least do it privately. Me ------------------------------ From: JesusCPose@aol.com Subject: Re: SNL performance Hello I remember noticing that "Go Sonics" sticker on his bass drum. Then the next day, I watched the Eastern Conference Finals, in the NBA, to watch the Bulls kick some. The Sonics played after the Bulls, and Bob Costas said something to the effect of, "I was watching SNL last night and I saw that the Sonics have fans even here in New York. I am talking about the Seattle based band Soundgarden, their drummer had a 'Go Sonics' decal on his drumkit". I also noticed that whenever I have watched Sonic games on national TV since the Superunknown era, the public address officials must like "My Wave" and "Spoonman", they play them whenever the Sonics are on a hot streak during a game. Also, at White Sox games they seem to rotate three songs for the Sox players to run out onto the field at the start of the game. The three songs are: Corduroy---Pearl Jam, the appropriately titled Come out and play by the Offspring, and Pretty Noose. Proof that Soundgarden and sports go hand in hand and that Soundgarden is arena rock, well I dont think but some do. Sorry if this post got off the subject a little for some. Adam(Jesus) ------------------------------ From: "ARIE ELMALEH" Subject: Spotlight To all the sommsters who get Muchmusic, There's going to be a Soundgarden spotlight (2 parts) on June 2 & 3. I've been waiting forever for this! Just thought I should let you all know! Later, Michelle ------------------------------ From: "ARIE ELMALEH" Subject: Rolling Stone article FELL ON BLACK DAYS By: James Rotondi When Soundgarden announced on April 9th that they were 'amicably' and 'mutually' disbanding, the bulletin board on their official website was immediately beseiged with messages from distraught fans. One lamented that 'my only ray of sunshine has been taken away from me.' Another distressed devotee suggested that the song 'Like Suicide,' the final track on the band's 'Superunknown,' might well contain the seeds of his own final solution. Choosing defiance over dismay, one poster simply raged, 'Soundgarden fucking rules!' That may be fan hyperbole, but there's no discounting Soundgarden's pivotal role in alternative rock or their savvy reimagining of the hard rock canon. Fusing Zep-approved gestures to a post-punk ethic, the group changed what we could expect from arena rock and inspired a tidal wave of imitators in its wake. If the grunge explosion fueled indie-rock's ascension into mainstream culture, then Soundgarden was its flying wedge. One of the first bands signed to Sub Pop, and the first grunge band to be sniffed out by the majors, Soundgarden became the genre's poster boys--scrappy, small-town underdogs forcing their way into a rock landscape then dominated by Guns 'N Roses, Metallica and Whitesnake. While Nirvana's 'Bleach' was only beginning to make waves at college radio in 1989, Chris Cornell's writhing mass of hair-- captured on the covers to 1987's 'Screaming Life' and 1989's 'Louder Than Love' -- was already becoming Seattle's new public image. Then, having presaged grunge's takeover of concert halls and fashion runways, Soundgarden waited patiently while Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains and Nirvana grasped the brass ring of commercial success. Though it's part of the indie ethic to disavow the trappings of rock star excess, the members of Soundgarden are among the only major acts who actually succeeded in doing so. Corgan, Cobain and Weiland all made a star-trip out of anti-publicity pretension, courting attention with their behavior. Cornell never let his band turn into a public soap opera. Soundgarden's focus-- even during interviews --was always on the music. But if an easily identifiable public image always escaped Soundgarden, a sense of musical direction never did. Their sonic vocabulary of streamlined power-chords, odd time signatures, quasi-Eastern tonalities and chesty vocals influenced Alice In Chains, Stone Temple Pilots, Tool, Helmet and countless baby bands, from Stompbox to My Sister's Machine. Cornell conveyed the force of 70's hard rock frontmen like Paul Rodgers, Ian Gillan and Robert Plant without pffending the indie world's preference for the more nuanced style of a Jonathan Richman or David Byrne. And even while reinventing hard rock, the band expanded on the possibilities of weirdo guitar tunings and experimented with dissonance in ways that wouldn't be lost on the avant-garde. It's hard to point out a single, crowning acheivement, but there are plenty of high points: the churning, proto-grunge grind of 'Lounder Than Love''s 'Hands All Over'; the horn-infused groove and pestilent lyrics of 'Badmotorfinger''s 'Drawing Flies'; the crooning, brooding majesty of 'Superunknown''s 'Fell On Black Days'; and the turbo charged Delta-pop of 'Down On The Upside''s 'Burden In My Hand.' There's something elegant, even stately, about 'Black Hole Sun' or Blow Up The Outside World' the still seems at odds with alt-rock convention-- an aesthetic considerably closer to Jeff Buckley than to Mudhoney; more Pink Floyd than Iggy Pop. With Indian-born guitarist Kim Thayil and Japanese-Amercian original bassist Hiro Yamamoto -- replaced by Ben Shepherd before 'Badmotorfinger' - -- Soundgarden also represented something of a multi-cultural breakthrough in a genre generally dominated by all-white line-ups. And though they were powered by a muscular, intensley male agression, they had the smarts to send up their own crotch-rock tendencies on 'Louder Than Love''s tongue-in-cheek 'Big Dumb Sex.' Of course, it's partly that bare-chested bravura and warrior soul that made the band so compelling in the first place. At a time when it seemed one had to make a choice between powerful guitar-rock and post-punk smarts, Soundgarden delivered both -- and better than many of the bands who did either. Having made their point that heavy rock need not translate into spandex, bogus goth imagery or thinly veiled right-wing provlivities, Soundgarden have every reason to be proud of a creative career unsullied by camp or cartoonization. And while you don't have to agree tjat Soundgarden rule, you shouldn't kill yourself about it either -- they've left plenty of great music behind. Amen. - - Michelle ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: chris vs. gavin contest If anyone saw the contest on the Muchmusic site for what they like better: facial hair (Chris Cornell) or clean shaven (Gavin Rossadale), Chris lost. No clue why, but it was 657, to 2157. Thought I would just let you know. Although, I don't know how 2157 people could vote for Gavin - --Marie ------------------------------ From: Werewolf from Soundallot Subject: Soundgarden Tribute Hello. Been a while since i last posted, but here goes. For my homepage, i'm doing a suggested tribute to Soundgarden. And I need your help. It would be unfair to just put my opinions up on the net. So i'm asking you sommsters to help me out. I've set up an email adress just for this. Your picks would be aprieciated. e-mail: moorrm@dionysus.lasierra.edu . Just the bands please. I will ask for the songs later. Ryan Moore. ------------------------------ From: Vasant Ramamurthy Subject: Matt news This just in from MTV News: Porno, Soundgarden Drummers Featured on Flyin' Traps April 29 [14:00 EST] -- Matt Cameron of the now-defunct Soundgarden is one of 19 drummers who will be appearing on "Flyin' Traps," an instrumental percussion record due this summer. The recording will also featuring Stephen Perkins from Porno for Pyros, Tim Herb Alexander from Primus, Josh Freese of the Vandals (and Paul Westerberg's band among others), and J. Mascis, the guitarist from Dinosaur Jr. who started out as a drummer. Vasant Vasant Ramamurthy vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: a lifetime searching for something... On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, justin nicholls wrote: > at 3:13 matt gives us a rare treat...a double kick drum! although a > self-acknowledged average double bass player, he has laid out seven of > them at the conclusion of kim's solo. As impossible as it sounds, he's only using one bass drum. Those 16th notes are played with his hands around the toms. His floor tom sounds like a bass drum on the recording, so I think that's what you're hearing. The same is true at the end of Kim's solo. It's a lot of fast notes with his hands and a bunch of bass drum kicks thrown in to spice things up. In short, brilliant drumming. Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And all the sky went silent Cracked like glass and slowly Tumbled to the ground --C. Cornell - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And be sure to check out http://www.indiana.edu/~drumline/home.html ------------------------------ From: "Saskia Becher" Subject: Rage this Saturday This is to the Aussies on the list (sorry everyone else ;P) In my local tv guide it says that on Saturdays Rage that there will be mainly Pearl Jam and Soundgarden clips featured, I have a feeling that it could be the PJ unplugged thing but hey, I could be wrong.... just thought you should know.... Sassy ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 106] ****************************************