From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 25 Apr 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 02:43:34 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 25 Apr 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Okokok... the REAL reason that SG broke up. Re: Ty Cobb single Ty Cobb single JCP on recovery it's a dream we in OZ have. Re: allstarmag article Comments from the Seattle Community daydream nation Re: Comments from the Seattle Community Soundgarden's videos Lyrics for Cold Bitch Re:green revolution Stuff!!! (C: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 24 Apr 1997 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 24 Apr 1997 Re: _The Rocket_ article on the breakup Re: daydream nation The big change UK BiMH release (it was so much fun the first time...let's milk the cow) another rumor shot down Re: wellwater conspiracy Re: wellwater conspiracy Re: JCP on recovery - MTV New Rolling Stone Article! ------------------------------------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Okokok... the REAL reason that SG broke up. It seems like fifteen million people have written to me and asked just WHY Soundgarden has broken up. It's like everyone thinks that Chris and I play bingo together every Wednesday night, or something. So I'm here to let you people know the TRUTH. It's all my fault. =( You might hate me by the end of this post, but at least you'll be able to sleep better at night for knowng. This is why our favorite band decided to split sheets: It all started on a cold, late November night in Austin, Texas. I had gone to watch Soundgarden play, and just happened to make my way into their dressing room after the show. (Thanks again, Mark!) I munched my fill from their massively laden catered food table... and after listening to Ben's war stories from the previous months Hater show for about ten minutes... I decided to do some exploring. I made my way down the long hallway that ran behind the stage, and after a few twists and turns, I found myself standing in front of a slightly opened door. Initially finding nothing interesting about it, I began to turn around and make my way back to the dressing room to hang out with Jim Rose and his freaky friends (oh yeah, and Ben too). I had taken no more than three steps, when I heard some rather curious noises emerging from behind the door. I stopped to watch it for a moment, and saw some flashes going off rather quickly... and then stop. As soon as the light ended... the noises ended, too. For some reason I found this a bit more interesting than yet another story about the infamous Hater show (even if it WAS from the rockstar perspective)... so I called upon all my learned detective powers (Nancy Drew, baybeee), and decided to investigate. I slowly pushed the door open, and what horrific sight greeted my eyes?? Chris Cornell and Matt Cameron, dressed in matching grass skirts... and you will NEVER in a MILLION BILLION years guess what they were doing!!! They were... *gasp*... hula-hooping. Yes, that's right kiddies... I'm sorry to shock you with the terrifying thought of it... but two of our favorite rockstars were giggling and wiggling their hips while trying to keep a large round hoop from hitting the floor for longer than the other... and they had set up a camera to record this ultramega personal moment for their private 'rockstar-bonding' scrapbook. I swear, I would have fainted dead on the spot from shock... but Matt happened to notice me peeking in the doorway... and he gave out a rather high squeal that scared Chris so badly, he took a step backwards and tripped over his hula hoop... and he fell onto his butt next to the camera. What a scene this was, kiddies. I was mortified to discover Chris and Matt to be closet-Hawaiian-babe-dressing-retro-acting-weenies!! Oh woe was this poor hootchie! We all just stared at each other for a rather uncomfortable minute, and then Chris immediately reverted to his 'macho-rockstar-publicity-handling-I-know-you-want-my-sexy-body' self... and began to try and coerce a promise of silence from me. (Matt was sitting on the couch during this exchange, nervously biting his nails and watching the two of us.) Of course, I wasn't buying the whole deal. I mean c'mon... what was in it for ME? Oh, he offered alot of tempting things... free tickets for life, backstage passes for all my friends, tapes of never-before-heard demo songs... hell, the guy even whipped out some naked pictures of Eddie Vedder playing the flute... but this hootchie isn't stupid. I wanted three things: a piggyback ride back to my car (cuz I was so freaking tired from standing for the last 6 hours), the coconut bra that Matt was currently wearing, and a solemn promise (in writing) that Soundgarden would never break up. Chris argued and raged and then begged and pleaded (on his knees... now doesn't THAT paint a pretty picture?)... but I held firm to my demands, and eventually he caved in. We quickly drew up the paperwork and signed it all... Matt & Chris changed back into their regular clothes... Matt reluctantly gave me his coconut bra... and I hopped on Chris' back. I pulled his blue baseball cap off his head, and waving it around wildly I shouted "Giddyup, rockboy!! My car is at least 4 blocks from this building, and if I wanna make it home before sunrise... you better get yer butt in gear and get me back to my ride!!" Then I leaned back, smacked him on said butt... and he started walking towards the nearest exit. I whapped him on the head, and told him to trot... which to his credit, he did. The ride back to my car was magical, and I guarantee that when we arrived he was sweating ALOT more than he ever had during a show. We again exchanged promises of my never breathing a word about SG and hula hoops... and in return, SG would never break up. Unfortunately, I was only able to hold out for a little over three months before telling someone. That someone told someone else... and before I knew it, the sordid tale got back to Susan. She immediately freaked out, because although she was already aware of Chris & Matt's little Hawaiian-hula trysts that had been going on for YEARS (not to mention Matt's coconut bra fetish)... she didn't understand how one slightly-psychotic hootchie could have found out such exact details about it. Chris and Matt both blamed one another, and then blamed me... and I could spell out the whole sad story here, but I've written too much already. Needless to say, they were furious at me for not keeping up my end of the deal... so they broke up the band just to spite me. *sigh* Oh damn my eyes!!! Anyway... that's the REAL reason that Soundgarden broke up. I hope that it didn't scare any of y'all, and that your dreams aren't haunted by thoughts of hoops and grass skirts tonight. I also hope that none of you hold this against me and hate me forever. (But can you really blame me for having to tell someone? ;-) And on a final note... Chris has refused to play bingo with me anymore, because he said that I slapped his butt too hard when he was giving me a ride back to my car. Some people just hold grudges waaaay too long, y'know? :-p Shroom Girl, Mistress of the Soundgarden Hootchies. - - Ummm... just kidding or something. Heheheheh... ;-) Sorry this was so poorly written... I'm sleep deprived, and leaving for NOLA in a few hours. *smooches* ------------------------------ From: tendrils Subject: Re: Ty Cobb single > >When did the ty cobb single come out. Is Big Dumb Sex, the old version or > is Ben Sheppard playing the bass.. > Jeffrey Michael Harrison > to my knowledge: a few days ago and only in Australia. Its the same Big Dumb Sex as on Louder thatn Love. ------------------------------ From: "wyn" Subject: Ty Cobb single This afternoon I was in town and got the Ty Cobb single. It's interesting, the Rhinosaur remix - THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE RHINO'S BACK REMIX (cute title). It sounds just the same as the LP version order wise (what I mean is that the song is the same, not like Dusty were the order is changed) the major change is there is a zzzz effect to Chris's vocals, the whole song seems to have it but it's really evident in the vocals. The whole effect has changed it from a song which sounds like it's sung effortlessly to one with more of a sound of strained vocals (I don't mean overly strained, there is a difference) and just overall a heavier song. I hope some of that made sense keep in mind I am completely music illiterate so maybe there is a name for the zzzzz effect over the top. While I was in there I also picked up Motorvision I had been eyeing it off for a while and knew it was in two shops there today one of them no longer had it so I decided to buy it now rather than miss out, I have no idea to it's difficulty to get but after seeing a Hater Cd and not getting it then and having never seen one again I just thought I should get it. Another thing I came home with was the Noise book simple because there was a bookshop closing down the road and I knew that it was unlikely that I could get it cheaper. I was going to get a hair cut on Saturday but I don't think I cane afford to now. Sorry for waffling once again but I hope someone makes sense of what I said about the remix and gets something from it. Bronwyn wyn@powerup.com.au & Wyn ------------------------------ From: "wyn" Subject: JCP on recovery it's a dream we in OZ have. Hello all Well some of us here in Australia (Fiona and myself at least) would like to see some Soundgarden videos on Recovery since the only one they play when they do is Burden in my Hand which is really good but we want some different ones too so would it be possible for at least some of you out there in Sommsland to go to the Recovery site and vote for Jesus Christ Pose for starters. The URL is http://www.abc.net.au/recovery/home.htm If at least some people out there could do this then we would be very much grateful for it. Bronwyn wyn@powerup.com.au & Wyn ------------------------------ From: "Farsi" Subject: Re: allstarmag article Steven Russell Jr. wrote: >The picture was used in >Seattle- based American Music News as a joke contest that was along the >lines of "identify these people and win a fancy American Music water >bottle." I can imagine what the picture was, but could you describe the picture? Farsi ------------------------------ From: "ANDRI NADZRI" Subject: Comments from the Seattle Community Hi SOMMsters.... I've kinda been missing the digest for quite a while right now due to my school's heavy workload...but i noticed someone mentioning bout Matt posting to the list??i know this is old news and forgive me for that..but if anyone would kindly email me privately and tell me where can i find it?thanx.. BTW,is there any comments from the Seattle community bout the breakup....i would really like to know what the other bands think bout the breakup..especially PJ,AIC,the 'Trees,Mudhoney,etc...i mean. these bands obviously have close links with each other..it might be interesting if we could get some of their insight bout this.. anyone out there could tell me exactly how may versions of "Christi"that is floating around?as far as i know..i've heard it on the Reading Festival boot...is there any other versions around? and...does anyone have the tabs for that song?? Peace.... Andri - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: daydream nation Got the new Rolling Stone yesterday. In it, they had "the definitive library of the 200 best albums ever made". So here I am, pretty much agreeing with their selections as they go decade by decade. So far so good. Then I turn the page to see the 90's. So here I am, gettin' excited thinking that Superunknown would be a lock to be on it. So I look through it and see PJ's "Ten" and "Live Through This" by Hole as well as Nirvana and others. And then the article ends. No Superunknown. No Soundgarden. I simply cannot understand why Superunknown was left out. Did Chris's diatribes against RS have a part to play in this? Perhaps, but who knows. I would hate to think so. But the fact that it was left out is such a glaring omission on their part. I don't get it. That album changed me and a lot of other people. It was a great fucking album. It should have been on that list. - -vince ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Comments from the Seattle Community On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, ANDRI NADZRI wrote: > BTW,is there any comments from the Seattle community bout the breakup....i would > really like to know what the other bands think > bout the breakup..especially PJ,AIC,the 'Trees,Mudhoney,etc...i mean. > these bands obviously have close links with each other..it might > be interesting if we could get some of their insight bout this.. as many of these band members have said in the past, it's not like they hang out with each other every night. i think someone in here posted some comments from mc cready... i mean, i don't know what someone in another band can tell me about what goes on in soundgarden? i mean, i work for a software company in seattle, does that automatically mean i can give you the inside scoop on what goes on at microsoft? no, it doesn't. i'm sure those musicians who were fans of sg are as bummed about the breakup as we are. but i'm not quite sure what kind of insight someone who wasn't actually in soundgarden could give us, nor do i think any of these bands would engage in idle gossip or chit chat about one another. i think we need to listen to the band's words in their statement and not look to other people to explain it to us. matt confirmed this in his statement to us (sorry that you missed it) that there is nothing more than what was said in the original 32-word "terse" (hiya andrea!) statement. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Giacomo Arteconi Subject: Soundgarden's videos I would like to know the address of sites where I can find Soundgarden's Video clips, live records, singles,bootlegs and other items. I would also make Soundgarden's E-mailers know to contact me if they've got and want to seel or change this Soundgarden's item. Thank you! Giacomo Arteconi ------------------------------ From: DustyGrrl@aol.com Subject: Lyrics for Cold Bitch Hiya, Can anyone please send me or post the lyrics to this excellent song? I apologize if its on the front page of Seth's site, but I cant access that right now. If anyone will do this for me, I will, I will.....I will think of some cool way to pay you back! If you also know the Fresh Deadly Roses lyrics, that would be way cool too. In your heart, I freeze.... Carol (formerly slave4cc) ------------------------------ From: Fiona Thiessen Subject: Re:green revolution Well i apologise...i said that i would post to SOMMS the writing that comes w/Hunted Down and I haven't....sorry I'm a board member of our University Environment group and have been really busy saving the planet!! (don't laugh, we *are* going to do it!!) Here it is..... Soundgarden will soak your sheets and make you sweat. They own your love. They are HEAVY. You have been waiting all your life for excitement and now it is here: SOUNDGARDEN. Put it on and slip it IN. Soundgarden discography: PYRRHIC VICTORY cassette: INCESSANT MACE DEEP SIX COMPILATION: HERETIC TEARS TO FORGET ALL YOUR LIES Hunted Down/Nothing to Say is a limited edition (500) promo 45 containing alternate mixes of songs that will appear on their upcoming six-song EP. *** Also in regards to Ty Cobb being released in Australia...i asked a few record stores, about a week ago, and none of them knew anything about it, despite it being reviewed in Victorian music street papers. Wednesday (23rd) was the first day that I saw it advertised (in a different record store to the ones I asked)...it's weird that some stores knew nothing about it though. Fiona ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: Stuff!!! (C: Okay, I've gotten some stuff over the past month or so and I'm excited. I got a limited edition numbered green vinyl BUTOW. It's really cool and if all goes right I'll be getting the Louder Than Live CD and a red vinyl Louder Than Love. Also I got Stone Free with Hey Baby on it and I got Crown Of Thorns and 2 other bootlegs (but I'm still looking for FDR and Stolen Prayers or the cd's with these songs on them) Just thought I would share. Oh, I was wondering if anyone could help me out: I'm looking for the Flower video because for some stupid-ass reason the one on Seth's site won't work on my computer. It really sucks. Please e-mail me if you can help and I'll pay you for your troubles. That's really all for now!! Over and out!! Take care and be sweet!! Stay Cool, Kelly (C: ------------------------------ From: ooyesiku@brynmawr.edu (Olukemi Oyesiku) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 24 Apr 1997 I doubt that CC will do a solo thing! I think that he will join another band and Ben, Matt, and Kim will join other bands as well. I really cannot see CC as a solo artist. But I can see Kim maybe as a lead in a band playing his guitar like crazy, you know like Slash from G 'N R. Hey you never know! Does anyone know if Ben, Matt or Kim know how to sing (well enough to be a lead singer or whatever)? I wonder..... I think CC should learn how to play more instruments if he does a solo thing. I was reading an article about Trent Reznor (NIN) and it was saying how he knows how to play many instruments, even the weird ones you'd think would never be heard on a Metal album. I guess that is why NIN's music is so unique. Anyway, I think knowing how to play different instruments if you only know one and learning or maybe trying to learn to sing if you have never tried, if you are in a band, can help you to expand your horizons. IT IS SO FUCKING FRUSTRATED SITTING HERE WITH MY TAIL BETWEEN MY LEGS WAITING TO HERE FROM SG MEMBERS, ESP. CC. IS ANYONE ELSE GOING CRAZY? - --Kemi ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 24 Apr 1997 On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Olukemi Oyesiku wrote: > I doubt that CC will do a solo thing! I think that he will join another > band and Ben, Matt, and Kim will join other bands as well. I really cannot > see CC as a solo artist. so, "seasons" was a fluke, huh? > are in a band, can help you to expand your horizons. IT IS SO FUCKING > FRUSTRATED SITTING HERE WITH MY TAIL BETWEEN MY LEGS WAITING TO HERE FROM > SG MEMBERS, ESP. CC. IS ANYONE ELSE GOING CRAZY? what do you EXPECT to hear? you want to have a solo album out in 10 days? devilhead is playing all over the place. hater is playing all over the place. what MORE do you want to hear from the band members?????? give them a chance to breathe, maybe? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: "Phelan, Kate" Subject: Re: _The Rocket_ article on the breakup I just go done reading Caryn's posting of the Rocket's latest attempt at dirt. I'm sorry, but ANYTHING written after the words: "After numerous off-the-record interviews with individuals close to the band, ..." is basically throwaway stuff, imho. *I* could've been a source fer cripes sake. *I* was close to the band, one cold night in November. I was close enough to get some autographs! : ) Katester ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Re: daydream nation Date sent: 24-APR-1997 16:10:51 >Got the new Rolling Stone yesterday. In it, they had "the definitive >library of the 200 best albums ever made". So here I am, pretty much >agreeing with their selections as they go decade by decade. So far so >good. Then I turn the page to see the 90's. So here I am, gettin' excited >thinking that Superunknown would be a lock to be on it. So I look through it >and see PJ's "Ten" and "Live Through This" by Hole as well as Nirvana and >others. And then the article ends. No Superunknown. No Soundgarden. >I simply cannot understand why Superunknown was left out. Did Chris's >diatribes against RS have a part to play in this? Perhaps, but who knows. >I would hate to think so. But the fact that it was left out is such a >glaring omission on their part. I don't get it. That album changed me and >a lot of other people. It was a great fucking album. It should have been >on that list. That's because Rolling Stone is a piece of shit mag. Of course, they wouldn't include Superunknown. It's probably not "hip" at the moment to like Soundgarden, in public circles. To them, it doesn't matter that Soundgarden's music has completely changed rock music as we know it. Does anyone remember the Rolling Stone interview with Alice In Chains, where the interviewer falsely announced that he saw needle marks on Layne Staley's arms? That pretty much destroyed as credibility the magazine had right there. Later, Michael Apple ************************************************** Pale in the flare light The scared light cracks and disappears And leads the scorched ones here And everywhere, no one cares the fire is spreading And no one wants to speak about it. - "4th Of July", Soundgarden ************************************************** ------------------------------ Subject: The big change From: seth Well, it's been 13 months since I first started talking about how great it would be if this list ran under Listserv, and today I find out that MIT has Listserv (running on a *mainframe*, of all things). All I had to do was ask if I could use it. There will be some changes in procedure - you'll be able to sub/unsub yourself and switch between digests and individual messages at will - and some small things, like message headers and parts of the digest, may look slightly different, but that's about it. Service should be more reliable, especially for digest subscribers, since the daily digests will be compiled and distributed automatically, regardless of whether or not I'm around. Additionally, posting will be restricted to subscribers only, so we won't have to deal with people who aren't on the list. Anyway, I hope to get the list set up in Listserv over the weekend and have it running by early next week sometime, so I'll be sending out more messages with all the new info you'll need in the next few days. seth ------------------------------ From: ian_bush@VNET.IBM.COM o.k. I have not really followed up on soundgarden. I really did not hear anything about them breaking up or anything about anything for that matter. I think they are a wicked good band. Puleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez somebody give me more info. ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: UK BiMH release (it was so much fun the first time...let's milk the cow) Hey List I just received IGG's preorder list and these two items were included. SOUNDGARDEN BURDEN IN MY HAND FORMAT 2 CD-5 (UK) 04/28/97 [$10] $8.99 AUSTRALIAN. 4 tracks SOUNDGARDEN BURDEN IN MY HAND POSTER PACK CD-5 (UK) 04/28/97 [$12.5] $11.25 AUSTRALIAN. Poster and AUSTRALIAN EXCLUSIVE TRACKS UK Sommsters please check your fave record stores on Monday for this release and check back to the list with the info :-) steve - - goo goo ga joob ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: another rumor shot down (boy, i enjoy laying to rest pointless rumors =) ) having said that, this *is* from the pearl jam rumor pit, which has been wrong as often as it's been right: >Q: Will Chris Cornell or Mark Lanegan be doing the vocals on the Mad >Season album? > A: No. (now, don't ask me WHO is doing the vocals, this is a soundgarden list, remember =) ) the full text of the rumor pit is available on alt.music.pearl-jam if you want it. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: java4u@sos.net Subject: Re: wellwater conspiracy What is on this album? I'd really like to know. Peace Love Empathy Rachel ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: wellwater conspiracy On Thu, 24 Apr 1997 java4u@sos.net wrote: > What is on this album? I'd really like to know. music by the wellwater conspiracy. =) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: JCP on recovery - MTV At 21:50 24/04/97 +1000, wyn wrote: >Well some of us here in Australia (Fiona and myself at least) would like to >see some Soundgarden videos on Recovery since the only one they play when >they do is Burden in my Hand... I don't know how relevant this is to most out there, but MTV in Australia did play a spot of Soundgarden on their "Collections" program earlier in the week - we saw JCP, Outshined, Blackhole Sun, Spoonman, Burden in My Hand and Pretty Noose (not in that order, but something like that)...it will be replayed for those with Optus Vision Cable TV this Sunday morning... More importantly, does anybody know of Rage here in Australia putting together a Soundgarden special some time in the future? It would seem fitting at the closure of the band for them to play all Soundgarden videos as a tribute to the band, and they certainly have done it for other bands... Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: New Rolling Stone Article! Date sent: 24-APR-1997 21:49:55 Hey all, I just read this in Rolling Stone, so I thought you all might like to take a look at it. :) Rolling Stone: "Soundgarden Spiced: Info on the Break-up from a Reliable Source" By I. M. Fullashit Soundgarden, the metal-edged grunge rockers who led Seattle into the grunge revolution, shocked the world on April 9th by suddenly and inexplicably breaking up. Even though a terse 32 word note from A&M records, their record company, described the split as mutual and amicable, rumors began to surface that perhaps the break-up had been instigated by other matters. This reporter has recently interviewed a reliable source close to the band and discovered something that will SHOCK you, if not HORRIFY you. It has been revealed that Soundgarden's break-up actually arose from: THE SPICE GIRLS! "It all started when they were on a layover in London, coming back from the Australian tour," Said the source close to the band, "Kim and Ben have been getting in barfights a lot, ever since the Japanese leg of the Superunknown tour, and this night, at first, seemed no different." The difference was that Kim and Ben chose the wrong target for their attack: The Spice Girls. Within moments, both musicians were laid out on the barroom floor, unconscious. Chris and Matt immediately came to their rescue. "It was horrible," Says the source close to the band, "Chris jumped in the save them and was knocked for a loop when the Spice Girls bounced their tits on his head. Matt tried to throw a chair at them, but they started singing that stupid "If you wanna be my lover" song and it incapacitated him as well." Within minutes, all the members of Soundgarden were knocked cold, and thrown out the backdoor of the pub by their victorious enemies. When they awoke, they turned on each other, blaming each other for the awful, humiliating defeat. Apparently, this disagreement resulted in their disbandment. "It's really a shame," The source close to the band said, with a sad frown, "I've been a roadie for them on tour since 'Ultramega OK' and I never thought this could happen to them. The only thing I can say is to warn other bands: Avoid the Spice Girls at all costs! They'll get you too, if you aren't careful!" Silver Management and A&M Records declined to comment. We'll keep you updated as this story develops. (Hee hee. Just kidding. :) Later, Michael Apple ************************************************** Pale in the flare light The scared light cracks and disappears And leads the scorched ones here And everywhere, no one cares the fire is spreading And no one wants to speak about it. - "4th Of July", Soundgarden ************************************************** ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 101] ****************************************