From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 21 Apr 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 04:41:48 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 21 Apr 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: The Calvin Kleiner Remembers Us... Correction; thanx Matt!; privacy Tony Williams? Re: Tony Williams? Enough RE:'s, here's the Foo Fighters Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 19 Apr 1997 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 19 Apr 1997 Scusa!!! Fwd: Tony Williams? Re: chris bowling give me details and dream of those moments so few... sub pop 200 ------------------------------------------------------------ From: RoseeMisst Subject: The Calvin Kleiner Remembers Us... You know what, guys? Forget the rest of the band. KIM THAYIL IS THE TRUE GOD! With his Charles-Manson-like countenance, the truly sexual relationship between man and guitar, I shiver with anticipation, just waiting for him to.... hehehehe...this whole Who-Is-The-Greatest-SG-member is pretty silly. This response to the 'Matt post' is probably pretty late, since I get the digest version, but I was definitely excited to read the post from Matt(and you hoped he wouldn't be reading our posts, Caryn :0} ) I had secretly hoped something like that would happen, but I thought, 'come on, if Matt posted directly to the list, no one would believe it was him.' Instead, he uses seth as his vessel. Smart move, Matt. There are times like these when I'm glad to be a sommster. Forget all that media shit. All I needed was consolation from an actual SG bandmember. Okay, enough sap. Here's a visual if you haven't read it already: > I was thinking about the "Chris is Soundgarden" thing. I couldn't help > but mind-jump to that No Doubt situation where all the band members are > upset because gwen gets all the attention. (please note, here, that i'm > no fan of no doubt). Then, I imagined Soundgarden in the "don't speak" video. > Kim, Matt, Ben mugging for the magazine camera. Chris wearing a tiara. > Matt doing that crazy juggle thing with the orange. > Then, to top it all off, Chris singing to Ben about their former relationship. > It gave me a good chuckle. > > Oh man, I'm gonna get unsubbed for this. > -- Ben Oh Ben, you joker :0} Smothering in Matt's 'big soul kiss' @~~^RoseeMisst^~~@ see you in #somms! ------------------------------ From: Fetal Bliss Subject: Correction; thanx Matt!; privacy I'd like to apologize about my post concerning Entertainment Weekly (the first one). Someone else posted a direct quote from it, which is better than my word (I didn't read it myself until after I posted). Also, I'd like to thank Matt (and seth, of course) for his message. No, it didn't tell us about anyone's future plans, but it let ME know, at least, that they're still out there. Again, many thanks. Finally, will people stop bitching about those of us who want to know about the band? Yeah, they have personal lives, they need privacy, but are we really intruding on either when we speculate about them? NO! We're fans; they've touched our lives with their music; we SHOULD want to know. What we may say on this list is quite different than facing Matt, Chris, Ben, or Kim and DEMANDING an answer! (Uh-oh, I didn't state their surnames!) ^_^;\ Eternal Soundgarden, Scott - -- On your breast I might lay my crowded head... In your mouth I might feel the serpent's kiss... In your eyes I might be your saving grace... I would feed your heart... But in your heart I'd freeze - C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: Tony Williams? Was does Tony Williams play on/play for/whatever? of course if he's good enuf for mc to be a fan, i wanna hear it! so someone help me out! the percussionist for the tea party is the only drummer i can listen to nowadays who doesn't sound weak...and there's also awesome lyrics, near the cc level, if anyone just has the hunger for more good words. (no, they don't pay me) laters. -j "Do you seek your soul's redemption under fervent skies?" -The Tea Party. ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: Tony Williams? Luck's Last Match wrote: > Was does Tony Williams play on/play for/whatever? Tony Williams was a jazz/rock fusion pioneer. He was Miles Davis' percussionist for 6 years before he pursued his own jazz fusion combo entitled "Tony William's Lifetime". I believe his most recent work appears (I could be wrong) on a Jimi Hendrix trubute album called "In From The Storm" in which he plays with such musicians as Carlos Santana and Steve Vai. Pearl Jam's ex-drummer, Dave Abbruzzese, also plays on the album though they don't play together on any of the tracks. I hope that helps... - -- Chris Mackenzie ------------------------------ From: "Ben \"Flea\" Burnsed" Subject: Enough RE:'s, here's the Foo Fighters I don't know Matt Cameron either, but I don't think he would consider himself too good, too cool, or too modern/post-modern to accept a serious offer from the Foo Fighters. I think he would be a tremendous advantage for the band and could help take them to new levels. If it were me, I wouldn't care who I'd played for previously, if I wasn't in a band I'd jump at the chance to play with Pat and Dave (who also has got to be one of the best drummers around, esp. for being a guitarist!) Who knows, the Foo fFighters may want to move beyond their "punk" sound but even if they didn't, I think Matt Cameron would be a tremendous improvement. Worse comes to worse, he could come and drum for me! :) Peace, Flea ****************************** Down in a hole Losin' my soul Down in a hole Feelin' so small... I'd like to fly But my wings have been so denied - J. Cantrell ------------------------------ From: ooyesiku@brynmawr.edu (Olukemi Oyesiku) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 19 Apr 1997 >From: Caryn Rose >Subject: Re: I agree > >On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Metkulu wrote: > >> I agree! I could care less about the other members. Chris is >> Soundgarden. > >i was going to go off on a patented tirade, but then thought better of >it: > >this is so stupid as to not even merit a response. > >- --caryn > > I do not think you have to call anyone or what anyone says and thinks stupid. This is uncalled for and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. You mustn't take these things as a personal offense. ------------------------------ From: ooyesiku@brynmawr.edu (Olukemi Oyesiku) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 19 Apr 1997 To Carol: You said, "you just don't get it do you?" in response to Metkulu's agreeing with what I said about not caring what the rest of the band does and only caring about Chris, etc. Well I am fucking tired of you and caryn or whatever her name is getting all pissy about this. What I am saying is that SG was a great band who will live in infamy, figuratively. The tunes, the lyrics, the music that Chris, Matt, Kim, Hiro and Ben made are truly fucking unbelievable and can never in all eternity be duplicated. However, IN MY OPINION Chris Cornell had a pivotal role in SG. Without his vocals, lyrics and passions I honestly do not think SG would be remotely as perfect as they were. This may be harsh words to say and you may want to tell me too fuck off because I don't know what the fuck I am talking about but, WHATEVER!!!!! I cannot and will not apologize for thinking this or feeling as deep as I do for CC and I will not fucking tolerate you and others telling me or who ever agrees with me that our opinion on this matter is STUPID or that we just do not get it. Frankly, you just do not get it. What I get from Soundgarden is different from what you or anyone else might get. What you see I do not, what you feel I do not, what you want I do not!!!!! I do not want to argue, I do not want to cause a ruckus but I did not join Somms to have my opinions denounced and stepped on. Say what you have to say in response to my opinions or thoughts or anyone elses but you do not have to rude and name-calling about it. I joined Somms so I can have people to talk to who share my interest in this great bound called SG because others just do not undderstand their impact. Again, I do not want to argue. I just want to state my opinions in a hostile free environment. ...don't come over here piss on my grave... KEEP IT OFF MY WAVE - --kemi ------------------------------ From: ooyesiku@brynmawr.edu (Olukemi Oyesiku) Subject: Scusa!!! To all who replied and hated my comment of CC being SG and CC being a God, IGNORE IT and read this: You all are absolutely right about CC not being SG. You are right that CC is NOT a GOD. You are right, right, right!! I apologize for my ignorance. I cannot explain what I meant just like you will never understand what I emant to say. I guess when I turn on SG cd's and lie down on my bed, close my eyes and sink deep into that semi-unconscious world my ears and mind turn down the music and listen to the lyrics and the passion in the voice. The sound settles me in a most unimagineable way. I realize I am tired of unpassionate voices blaring out of my radio, stupid marketable lyrics screaming or bitching to me. I look for what I hear in CC's voice because I cannot find it anywhere else. I am not a musician but a poet. Of course I love the music, the sounds, the tunes behind the voice but most of the time the only thing that sooths or hurts or stings is the words FOR ME anyway. Some of you like the guitars, the drums, the bass, etc. Some of you like the harmony brought together by them all. I understand that and respect that as i sometimes feel the same way. But, I cannot understand why any of you would think that I do not understand their harmony. I understand the harmony of Aerosmith (my favorite all-time band) I understand the harmony of AIC and NIN and STP. But, I cannot help but feel compelled to listen to the words, lyrics and passion of voice and its harmony alone. There is something about CC's particular voice that gets to me, and yes the rest of the band does help a tremendous deal in bringing it all together, but, still, there is something that cannot be explained in CC's voice/lyrics that is remarkable and distinguishable from all the bands I know and/or love. So no one can tell me that I am not aware of CC's music, and his love for his music and lyrics and band members, etc. I am sure he is into the harmony of the music and his lyrics, voice and passion. That is all fine and dandy. I suppose I then do not belong on this mailing list because I do not think of SG as one group. I have the right to single out one voice and drown out the rest. It is not God's voice, you are right. It is not the only voice, you are right. But it is the voice and everything that comes with it that I choose to hear when I am upset, when I am happy, when I am depressed, when I am sad. Trent Reznor to most people can be his own band sometimes because he can play every instrument probably known to man. He is a musical genius but he has a band. He and his band is NIN. But TR is TR. Just as CC is CC and CC and Matt, Kim, BEN are SG. CC is a human, he feels, talks, hurts, bleeds,etc. In no way superior, but I what he DOES is transcendant of the norm. So, in closing if I have upset you, I apologize. Ignore what I said in my previous e-mails, ignorance was bliss. "The words you say never seem to live up to the ones inside your head..." --cc --kemi ------------------------------ From: FrkShow911@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Tony Williams? - --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: Tony Williams? Date: 97-04-20 18:21:40 EDT From: FrkShow911 To: toybox@email.unc.edu Tony Williams was and will always be, a legendary jazz drummer/composer. The drumming community was at a major loss over a key figure in modern drumming when he passed away much too early, about a month ago, as Matt pointed out. His latest effort before his early departure was a beautiful collection of songs on an album entitled "Wilderness". The disc features Williams along with Pat Metheny on guitar, Michael Brecker on tenor saxophone, Herbie Hancock on piano, and Stanley Clarke on bass. You can find it at just about any major retailer (i.e. Best Buy, Circuit City) and I strongly urge everybody to go out and give it a spin. ---Al ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: Re: chris bowling >I am looking for any one with a copy of the MTV's headbangers ball with >rikk r. When they all went bowling and chris came out with his short >hair......................it was the release of >Superunknown...........please someone help obtain a copy > > MAHALO, > KIM I am also looking for this, so if any one has it contact me also. Thanks, Marie ------------------------------ From: jmh271@psu.edu (Jeff That Psu Guy!!!!) Subject: give me details Alright, i heard that this breakup was a rumor about a week ago, then i here Friday on my local radio station that Soundgarden broke up. Today i finally here MTV announce it. What happen that caused this breakup to occur. Need details...... ------------------------------ From: justin nicholls Subject: and dream of those moments so few... On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Dave wrote: > I wonder if there was any tracks recorded for the proposed new album. > Also was Christi ever recorded.? somewhere there exists a full studio version of 'christi'. matt talks about it in his interview with drum! magazine (sept. 96). I'm not sure that sessions for what would have been the next soundgarden album were ever planned, scheduled or begun. in addition to that, any songs that were left over or discarded from the dotu sessions probably wouldn't have made it onto the next record. > the seperate publishing companys. On Screaming life and up to Louder than > Love, they had one publishing comapany entitled Loud Love music, or > something like that, so why did they all decide to have their own > publishing companies? Why do artists do this? perhaps because it is fairer to all four members of the band? if you write something, you should get the credit. while they were a close and largely democratic band, they were still four distinct and unique people, deserving of individual credit for their work. besides, I doubt that ownership of material was really a major concern in their early history. perhaps they were more interested in *making* the music than owning the music. > And who is Greg Gillmore? > The inpsiration for Never the Machine forever. greg gilmore is a close friend of kim's and former drummer of mother love bone. the inspiration for 'ntmf' came from a jam session with gilmore some time before the dotu sessions. matt subsequently heard the riff, changed the drum beat and then left kim to rearrange the parts and write the lyrics. ----------------------------------------------- in your real life, treat it like it's special in your real life, try to be more kind in your real life, think of those that love you in this real life, try to be less blind words by vernon reid ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Nicky Taylor Subject: sub pop 200 Hi everyone, havn't posted for a while, I've been in the asylum(j/k), Anyway, I just bought Sub Pop 200 and I was wondering is this worth anything. It sjust out of curiosity mind you. Nicky ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 97] ***************************************