From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 17 Apr 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:26:22 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 17 Apr 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 14 Apr 1997 soundgarden facts Somewhere in my dreams don't wanna be your monkeywrench... Kerrang report From CMJ Re: Blowing smoke and talking wind. . . RE:Ty Cobb single More Cornells SG Tour 1994 Dats Re: don't wanna be your monkeywrench... SPREADING THE MUSIC Devilhead Show Re: Devilhead Show Re: spread the music Re: Devilhead Show Re: Devilhead Show RE: More Cornells Re: spread the music The Dis-Banded BAND Re: I know it is long, sorry. Re: I know it is long, sorry. LISTEN UP!! Proposed new album and ... where'd it go?? Sales figures Corrosion of the Outside World Re: Sales figures Re: spread the music Soundgarden Gifts Re: Soundgarden Gifts Re: Sales figures Re: Hunted Down ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Moon Druid Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 14 Apr 1997 > From: cornell > Subject: DisographY? > > Where's the SG discographY? Why the hell are people taking > their soundgarden shit dowN? What, the band is broken up, > so now we have to give up on remembering them and providing > info? I'm sorry , but i'm a little cheesed off. I didn't > think dedicated fans would be this willing to quit. There's a fine line between giving up and fighting it. The true fans are going to be right on that line. We all deal with it in different ways, but we have to keep in mind that they needed to do what was right for them. I just read this in Time, but Joey Ramone was saying that the band was having their problems at Lollapalooza. They were arguing and fighting. He also said he would never envision them quitting. That's originally from ATN, BTW. We need to remember that this is still the band whose music we love, or even like a hell of a lot. We need to remember the memories. I read this on one of those quote a day calenders... A man is only old when regrets take place of dreams Sorry it's not PC and all, nor is it complete because I forgot some of it already, but I think you get the idea. Let's not become a bunch of old men. Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: cornell > Subject: Possible futures > > Kim spends the early months tormenting Billy Corgan and making him > cry on a regular basis. He'll get a column in some music magazine, > preferably entitled "I'm Kim. You're not." If the whole AIC thing Not only could I see that happening, but I also think that kicks ass. But still, I'm trying to dig up the interview where he said that he thinks it's cool to sit around in a bar and make fun of people as they walk in. > Chris - the much talked about "solo" album? Hmm...I see him > disappearing from the big music scene for awhile...maybe having One thing I'd love to hear of his are his solo demos. It'd be cool to have a studio recorded bunch of only Chris music. Nowhere But You, Fluttergirl, etc. Moon Druid - ----------------------------- > From: UnknownGrl@aol.com > Subject: Biographies and Break ups > > breaking up the best band in the world. But you never know... they > might be > back (Like the Ramones) or they could even do a reunion tour in a > few > years... I'd never miss seeing that one! When I first heard about > the break Fuck this reunion tour thing. That's probably the one thing I don't want them to do. Although, I can't see them falling into the rock cliche of that. If anything, I could see something like "Through A&M, Soundgarden issued this statement, 'We fucked up. But we're going back into the studio this fall.'" Of course, don't expect that for another year or two. You get the idea... and that's also tentative on IF they're interested in getting back together ever. But right now, I'd say that's the last thing on their minds. Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: "Ben \"Flea\" Burnsed" > Subject: What about the future of rock? > > evidence"), does the music I've written, which has a lot of > Soundgarden > and Alice in Chains influence, even stand a chance of becoming > popular? > This is supposing, of course, that I ever find a band and record it. Excuse me for going crazy on you for just a moment, but... (close your ears, kids) Go fuck yourself. If you even have to ask that question, then you shouldn't be a musician. Now, the civilized answer... (you can open them again) If it feels good, then go with it. If that's what you wrote, then keep it. If that's what you like, then it's good. Don't let trends and fads drive your choices. > I figure, maybe punk rock needs to get outta the spotlight for a few > years > so we can refocus as musicians instead of trying to be popular and > trendy. How do you think I feel? I live in Chicago where every major label is looking for "that band" to break out of the scene. Who will it be... Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: "GOOD PAUL" Subject: soundgarden facts If someone knows any obscure facts about soundgarden. Please e-mail them to me at Goodp@hotmail.com. I am making a trivia home page about soundgarden, and I need some more facts. Thanks Paul ------------------------------ From: Moon Druid Subject: Somewhere in my dreams > At 01:11 PM 4/13/97 -0700, Dave wrote: > >A while back some one suggested that 4th of July was never played > live, > >and that was proved wrong. What I want to know is if Fresh Tendrils > was > >ever played live. > > Fresh Tendrils was played live at the Armory (NY) 1994. An excellent > > version with Natasha on keyboards. That's cool. Has anybody ever heard Full On Kevin's Mom done live? I've not. I'd assume that everything on Screaming Life and Fopp have been done at shows because that was their starting material and you pretty much play all of that at a show when you start. THEN you record it. Actually, I'll bet that neither Tighter & Tighter nor Overfloater were ever played at live shows. Those are two of my favorites. Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: Vince Varkey > Subject: summer nights, and long warm days > > The musical landscape currently looks incredibly barren with SG out > of > the picture doesn't it? Damn. > > They gave me something to believe in. I still fail to see what has changed. Sure, they've broken up. But when you listen the CDs, are you listening to the four guys or are you listening to the music that they've made? Moon Druid - ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Time magazine > One more thing. In the local Chicago paper (Sun Times) on last > Thursday there on the top of the front page was a picture of CC with > the Damn... I didn't see the Sun Times. Did you see any coverage in the Trib, though? I checked it each day, and I also looked in A&E on Sunday. No luck. And also, this is really to Anna and all of us Chicagoans, but what do we think of a SOMMSfest '97? I know it's a little early, but I think it would be cool if we could get some people together and just go to some restauraunt near the Loop or something to that effect. Spend a day walking the streets 'n' stuff. Find a place to hang out and talk about the band. We can do it now, though it might still be a little cold. I dunno. Moon Druid. - ------------------------------ > From: eliza > Subject: opinion please > > well now that it is all over, i am thinking about all the SG things > that i > didn't get yet that i want...so here is the question...is New Metal > Crown > worth getting? i know we probably talked about this eons ago, but > everything prior to Wednesday is a blur...*sigh*... It's a cool book. It gives you a really good view of how the whole scene worked more than anything else. He takes a long time to break into Soundgarden. But it's cool pre-history. It also only up to a little past the Superunknown period. It's up to you. The book is very cool, in my opinion, but it also hypes up the scene a little bit. You can't blame it, though... it was a sign of the times. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: justin nicholls Subject: don't wanna be your monkeywrench... On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Deborah Baker wrote: just a couple of thoughts on the nme "story". > their record company A&M. It said: "After twelve years, the members of > Soundgarden have amicably and mutually decided to disband to pursue other > interests. There is no word at this time on any of the members' future > plans. Soundgarden would like to thank all their fans for their support > throughout the years." after reading this official statement a couple of times now, it really strikes me as concise. no, maybe that is the wrong word. I'm not sure what the right word for it is, but it will probably come to me in time. I just think those three sentences really sum everything up. the band have broken up, the future is uncertain and they thank their audience. I know that we all would like to know a little more of the band's final days, but I think this statement is (for now) a satisfying conclusion to what has happened so far. of course, we all want more. that much is obvious from what has been said here on the list. and it would be sad if this is all we ever know. but I don't think that will be the case. not that there is any deep mystery here imho, but one day we'll get some answers. anyone follow that? > Sources close to the band suggest that singer Chris Cornell will now pursue > a solo career. Drummer Matt Cameron and bassist Ben Shepherd will continue > to work in side project Hater and will release their second LP in the summer. as much as I dislike talking about what will come next, I have to say this. my feelings on the future don't include hater. from what I know (from what some of you have told me), the second hater record is done. it has been finished or near complete for a long time. whether it will come out now, who knows? as for matt and ben working together again...no, I don't think that will happen. as nice as it would be, I'm not sure that either of them would be interested. certainly not in the short term. it would be just a little bit close to the wound in most respects. that probably includes the wwc too; if only because ben is now involved with mcbain and those other guys in devilhead and wouldn't need both outlets (I'm assuming that he'll soon be writing and sharing lead vocal duties). > Guitarist Kim Thayil's plans are unclear although he did recently > collaborate with Shawn Smith and Steve Fisk on the second Pigeonhed album. while chris may come up with some sort of solo record (see 2.something of 'the ugly truth' in relation to solo work), I don't think kim will become just some sort gun-for-hire. sure, he has worked on tonnes of one-off stuff. but I don't feel that that is really any indication in terms of future plans. hopefully he will put his talents to something a little more enduring than perpetual guest appearances. once we all get past the heartache, we'll see some positives come from this. the breakup has opened new doors for matt, kim, chris and ben. I know it sounds hokey, but it is important to me that they do what feels right. it took a long time to find that special group of people and ignite that creative spark that was soundgarden, so I wouldn't expect anything substantial from any of them too soon. as much as it pains us all, I think that's true. but I *do* plan to hear more magnificent music from these four remarkable men. sorry if that sounded disjointed. my head feels a little screwy today. I just read over what I wrote; it sounds more like a stream of consciousness than a real post . thanks to those who have contacted me personally. I'll definitely get back to you when I next log on. ---------------------------------------------- welcome to the cruel world, hope you find your way it's a cruel world, try to enjoy your stay words by ben harper ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Kerrang report From Kerrang, April 19th 1997 SOUNDGARDEN SPLIT It's official - the Seattle grunge heroes decide to call it quits plus how the sad news broke Soundgarden have made the shock announcement that they have split up. A statement was issued last week, amid growing rumours of friction within the band. The statement, issued by the band's label, A&M, simply states: "After 12 years, the members of Soundgarden have amicably and mutually decided to disband to pursue other interests. There is no word at this time on any of the members' future plans." However, sources close to the band believe the tensions between bassist Ben Shepherd and the rest of the band - as well as artistic differences - might have played a part in the grunge legends' decision to call it quits. A source close to the foursome said: "Kim said this had been coming for a while. They had actually been considering it since they were on tour earlier this year. They have not been happy for a long time." Shepherd - it is claimed - walked offstage during the band's show on February 9 at the Neal Blaisdell Arena in Hawaii, which will now go down in history as their last ever performance. The bassist is also said to have angered Soundgarden when, during a recent gigi with side project band Hater in Seattle, he is alleged to have been involved in a fight with a member of the audience. But frontman Chris Cornell's mum Karen denies there was trouble in the ranks. "It was all amicable," she says of the split. "They just needed to do something fun again." Kerrang spent time on the road with Soundgarden in the last few weeks before they broke up, and saw no evidence of any major friction between the band members. In fact, they seemed very happy with their lot, which makes this decision even more surprising. As for future plans, Cornell is likely to pursue a solo career, whilst Shepherd and drummer Matt Cameron will record a second album with Hater for release on A&M later this year. The pair have also contributed to the debut album from local band Wellwater Conspiracy, which will be released shortly in the US on Third Gear. Shepherd will also spend time working with another one of his side projects, Devilhead, who are signed to Loosegroove Records, owned by Pearl Jam's Stone Gossard. So far there is no news on Thayil's plans. THE SHOCK SPLIT: how the news broke * There have been rumours for months that Soundgarden were about to split up, but they've always been strongly denied * Earlier this year, stories began to circulate that the Seattle superstars would call it quits after they finished the world tour for the album DOTU * However, a spokesman for the band told Kerrang at the time that there were no plans for a split * At 9am local time on April 9, Seattle radio station KNDD The End read the brief statement from the band, announcing they were going to split up. Within minutes, Kerrang recieved a copy of the official press release. * KNDD devoted the rest of the day to playing Soundgarden records and replaying old interviews with the band. UKDeb ------------------------------ From: sknauf@ibm.net Subject: From CMJ A very short and sober report: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- SOUNDGARDEN BREAKS UP 11 April 1997 After forming in 1984 and recording four albums for A&M Records (Louder Than Love, Badmotorfinger, Super Unknown and Down On The Upside) one for SST (Ultramega OK), and one EP compilation (Screaming Life/Fopp), the four members of Seattle grunge pioneers Soundgarden recently announced that they were breaking up to pursue other interests. The band's label had issued a press statement that announced the group's decision to disband and that there was not yet any word on future plans. The band, which named itself after a pipe sculpture in Seattle's Sand Point, has been performing out of the country in recent months and played their last concert on February 9 in Honolulu, Hawaii. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------- well, at least they don't blame anyone... sabrina ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_And=E9r?= Subject: Re: Blowing smoke and talking wind. . . On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Ross Filipek wrote: > For those of you who haven't seen it, there's an interview with Chris, > Kim, and Ben on Mesa Boogie's page. It's from a while back, so it has > nothing to do with breaking up. It does, however, provide some > potentially interesting information about the gear they use. If you're > interested, http://www.mesaboogie.com/US/Artists/sg/ is the URL. Enjoy. > > Ross > It can also be found on the unofficial site: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/articles/mesaboogie.html It's a lot faster than the Mesa/Boogie site. /martin. ------------------------------ From: "wyn" Subject: RE:Ty Cobb single I read yesterday about the Ty Cobb single being released here but couldn't look today (Uni) but tomorrow arvo, I'm going to town to check it out, I'm not bothering with the suburbs. I don't care that I have a Statistics Group Assignment that we have to work on, well I do care enough that straight after we're finished with that I'm going to go and look for/order it. By the way last week in my hour of mourning (well it's been more than an hour but after seeing stuff about the single, I'll go back to mourning after a while {I'm still in denial}). Back to last Thursday I found out after reading my e-mail at 5:30am too early to be up really but as it turns out that's when it was happening over there so the news was less than an hour old. I actually had a thought during the day that I might be the only person in Australia at that point to know, which was really scary that no one else was sharing my grief at least here (please Oz people inform me if I'm right or wrong I'd like to know it was 5:30 EST). Sidetracked once again but last week I went and got the Australian "Burden in my hand" Single with the miss print of "Birth Ritual" as "Birth control" simply for the miss print really. Is this really silly or dumb or perhaps in years to come my $6.50 will have been well spent not that I would sell it if it were worth something? Actually the only person I was able to tell about the break up then was the guy who sold me the Cd although he didn't believe me, before that I'd been only able to point at the computer screen and tell people to read the subject headings I couldn't actually say the sentence "Soundgarden has broken up" though the people who I did tell to read the screen had a go at me anyway so I'm not sure if it was really worth it but it was such an easy shot to take so the opportunity was taken although they went no further in their harassment. I really, really think I have waffled enough. Bronwyn wyn@powerup.com.au & Wyn ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: More Cornells A few people have been coming to me about Inflatable Soule, the band CC's brother Peter and 2 sisters Katy and Suzy are/were in. I don't know if there's any real corellation yet, but word is that I.S. has also broken up, tho I know for a fact this all began back in October when the guitarist left. For anyone who is curious about their music, here's a mailing addie so you can send for one or both CDs currently available: Inflatable Soule PO Box 61132 Seattle WA 98121 CD titles are So Sad (1994) and Golden Boy (1996). $12 each covers the CD and first class postage. These are both self-pay projects the band has put out. If anyone wants any of the older stuff email me--I have permission to dub it for new fans. A word of caution to Sgarden fans--just b/c there are 3 Cornells in this band, please be aware that the music sounds NOTHING like Sgarden! But Peter is an incredibly charismatic performer, so that does run in the family! :) I also have 2 email addies if anyone is game to try, however Peter hasn't been replying to email since at least September! :( later.....deb ------------------------------ From: willard robinson Subject: SG Tour 1994 Dats Hello all; I was wondering if anyone could point me to a list of the 1994 tour dates. tx Will willr@star.net ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: don't wanna be your monkeywrench... I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Matt pursues a career in jazz drumming. He's really into that, you know. Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Deborah Baker wrote: > > > a solo career. Drummer Matt Cameron and bassist Ben Shepherd will continue > > to work in side project Hater and will release their second LP in the summer. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And all the sky went silent Cracked like glass and slowly Tumbled to the ground --C. Cornell - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And be sure to check out http://www.indiana.edu/~drumline/home.html ------------------------------ From: MEXUM@email.usps.gov Subject: SPREADING THE MUSIC Hey all. Soundgarden parting ways has been hard for me to swallow, but I've been "in the business" at various levels long enough to understand how most groups just can't stay together. The ones who do end up doing the same old crap over and over (like Aerosmith, Rush, The Stones, etc.), so it's usually for the best musically speaking when the members of good groups go out and mingle with other good musicians-- keeps the juices flowing. I'd expect the SG to wind up in other great bands soon. Anyway. If anyone is interested in trading Soundgarden boots and "spreading" the music that will ALWAYS be very alive, here is my bootlist page: http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~cschmid/ExumGarden.html Later, Eride ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: Devilhead Show Heard on KNDD this morning that Devilhead will be playing at the Crocodile Cafe (Seattle), featuring all new songs, on Tuesday, April 29. They said it would be the last time to see them, at least until June, because Mike Stone's side project, Tuatara, will begin touring. Their first shows will be May 1 & 2, also at the Croc. Bonnie ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Devilhead Show bonnie told us: > Heard on KNDD this morning that Devilhead will be playing at the > Crocodile Cafe (Seattle), featuring all new songs, on Tuesday, April 29. > > They said it would be the last time to see them, at least until June, > because Mike Stone's side project, Tuatara, will begin touring. Their > first shows will be May 1 & 2, also at the Croc. am i the only one on the planet who think devilhead suck eggs??? and i couldn't think of a band less worthy of ben's talent? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: SUSAN@crystl.ucsb.edu Subject: Re: spread the music Hey Dun-wei and other sommspeople, About the teeny-bopper thing...I tend to agree with your general statement, but I would say the Chris-craze began even earlier than SuperUnknown. I think one of my earliest exposures to SG was seeing a Spin magazine in my local 7-11, after Badmotorfinger had been released and the Grunge thing was becoming big media. On the cover of said Spin was Chris, shirtless, with long hair. The words on the cover said.."GRUNGE. Chris Cornell has it. Madonna wants it." Looking at the picture and being a teenage girl of normal hormone levels, my response was..."hmmm, Madonna wants it. Now there's a big surprise." (Being a teenage girl of above-average intelligence, I spotted the wedding ring and refused to start drooling.) The Madonna comment referred to the fact that she had just started her Maverick record label and was trying to sign some grunge-type bands. I think she got Candlebox or something, and also had some discussions with Courtney Love (which evidently got nowhere). I would say that a lot of girls probably became interested in Chris at that phase of their careers, although the number of these lustful lassies probably increased exponentially with the release of Superunknown. This discussion reminds me of a question I had. I heard that Chris cut off his hair on stage. Was there a reason for such a dramatic gesture? I was thinking of that Spin magazine cover and wondering if it was meant as a flipping of the bird to people who were buying SG stuff because of his good looks....sort of cutting off his hair to spite his face. "Oh yeah? You're at this concert just to see a good looking guy with long hair and no shirt? You don't know our music at all? TAKE THIS!!!" Clip, clip. Was anybody at that particular show? Was anything said? Maybe he was just tired of having long hair. Its my birthday today....and the one-week anniversary of Soundgarden's breakup. Happy Birthday to me....not. I sharpened my wits on a dead man's skull... Susan L. ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: Devilhead Show On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, clr wrote: > am i the only one on the planet who think devilhead suck eggs??? and i > couldn't think of a band less worthy of ben's talent? I agree....i personally cannot stand everything i have heard from Devilhead...i just dont get it....very interesting career choice for mr. shepherd... eliza ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: Re: Devilhead Show Caryn wrote: am i the only one on the planet who think devilhead suck eggs??? and i couldn't think of a band less worthy of ben's talent? - ---- I basically know nothing of Devilhead. I've only heard them once, when they opened for SG at the Showbox in June. In my review of SG's show, I mentioned how basically lousy I thought they were. That they didn't seem into it at all, like it was such a drag being there. I didn't know if that was just their stage persona or what. The singer from Green Apple Quick Step joined them for a couple songs, and he really seemed to pump some energy into them. Plus, for those couple songs, I was liking it a whole lot better. In fairness, I was also feeling sorry for them (for all bands) in that position. They were opening up for SG in Seattle in a small club. Pretty safe to say no one was at the show just to see them. I thought, well maybe they felt negative energy from the crowd, knowing most of us were just biding our time until SG took the stage, thus their "can't wait to get out of here" attitude. I dunno, just my observations at the time. So, I thought they pretty much sucked, but really know nothing of the band or music, other than that night. If someone singing a couple songs could greatly improve their sound, adding Ben could totally change Devilhead. And even more so if he did lead vocals, as someone posted earlier. That would be my hope and interest in wanting to see them. And, of course, to see Ben play. Bonnie ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: RE: More Cornells Deb wrote: A few people have been coming to me about Inflatable Soule, the band CC's brother Peter and 2 sisters Katy and Suzy are/were in. I don't know if there's any real corellation yet, but word is that I.S. has also broken up, tho I know for a fact this all began back in October when the guitarist left. - ------ I had sort of thought something was up with IS, aside from when the guitarist left. Peter has done a few shows alone in the recent past. But I also saw that they were scheduled to have played the Fenix, I believe last Saturday. I don't know if they actually performed, but if so, would it still have been Peter with Suzy, Katy, et al., or a restructuring of the former band? Any word on what they are/will be doing separately, if they have/will part ways? Wow, seems like the season for new beginnings this Spring. And it's not just with the Cornells, or even bands in general, but the whole world seems to be turning upside down, from what I've observed. Strange days indeed... I also meant to include this bit earlier: Truly will be playing at Moe's this Saturday with Green Apple Quick Step and Sport O (if that info is still correct). This for anyone in the Seattle area AND to keep folks updated on what's going on with the endeavors of the former members of our beloved SG. Bonnie ------------------------------ From: Cornell32@aol.com Subject: Re: spread the music In a message dated 97-04-16 14:13:25 EDT, you write: << Chris cut off his hair on stage >> No, Chris didn't do this onstage. If I'm not mistaken, he did it at home during one of his reclusive periods, while Susan was away on business. I believe he mailed his hair to her...yikes.. Leslie ------------------------------ From: AntiDog@aol.com Subject: The Dis-Banded BAND A number of folks have written me privately asking what I thought about the disastrous news of the ninth, and though I really should be neck deep in studying human behavior (the deranged profile interests of a die-hard SG fan), I thought I'd pen a few things to our list. For my part, I was quite surprised with the news, having heard it over our local radio 105.3. I'm always on the road for important rock announcements, like the news about Kurt Cobain over K-ROQ. I greatly miss the fact that seeing SG perform live again is out of the question. Though, I look forward to hearing great individual music from the guys. I mean who wouldn't appreciate more songs as evocative and perfect as Cornells Seasons? Or the Hater material, or the obvious Thayil rifts on the Presidents album? I deeply regret the break-up of the band, but artists transition, and frankly, I'm glad the fellas are alive and capable of making new sounds for us to listen to. Here's what I wish - that I'd seen SG perform MORE, and that I'd known the last time would in fact be the last time. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would have flown to Chicago if I'd known it was the last gasp - I mean, exhaltation! And for Seth, thanks so much for the list and the cool folks I've met because of it. That is all. ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: Re: I know it is long, sorry. TMinor2112@aol.com wrote: > > One last thing, I really think that SG could have done things different like > toured more. I have only seen them once, they hardly ever touched their > whole fan base like other bands do . I think that touring was their biggest > down fall, especially after analyzing the fact that Superunknown was a Number > One Album and Down on the Upside did very poorly comparatively. > > Depressed and still Dedicated-- > Tina Actually Soundgarden toured a lot I thought. Just about every summer in a row the last eight years I believe. Does anyone know if 8 years is right? All I know is that they have toured in the past a lot. --Marie ------------------------------ From: Dave Subject: Re: I know it is long, sorry. Betty Anne Redson wrote: > > TMinor2112@aol.com wrote: > > > > > One last thing, I really think that SG could have done things different like > > toured more. I have only seen them once, they hardly ever touched their > > whole fan base like other bands do . I think that touring was their biggest > > down fall, especially after analyzing the fact that Superunknown was a Number > > One Album and Down on the Upside did very poorly comparatively. > > > > Depressed and still Dedicated-- > > Tina > > Actually Soundgarden toured a lot I thought. Just about every summer in > a row the last eight years I believe. Does anyone know if 8 years is > right? All I know is that they have toured in the past a lot. --Marie After Lolla 92 I think they took some time off. They did a brief tour with Neil Young and pearl Jam in 93 I think. After that they toured for SU, but that lasted into early 95. They did the reading festival in 95 also. So they did tour alot. ------------------------------ Subject: LISTEN UP!! From: valhalla7@juno.com (Jonathan W Parsons) How many times does Seth have to tell you boneheads? 1. Do NOT send any mail to SOMMS-DIGEST!! 2. Do NOT send copies of anything to SOMMS-DIGEST!! 3. ONLY Seth can send things to SOMMS-DIGEST!! I have gotten at least 6 extra messages outside the digest since the breakup. How hard is it to understand? I get the digest because I want all the messages in one email, hence the idea of a digest. Get it right! Soundgarden content: Did anyone see SG on MTV's the Week in Rock? If it was a good segment, then I'd like to get a hold of a copy. Can anybody help me out? Jonathan "On the road that I have taken, one day, walking, I awaken, amazed to see where I have come, where I'm going, where I'm from." - --The Book of Counted Sorrows ------------------------------ From: Dave Subject: Proposed new album and ... I wonder if there was any tracks recorded for the proposed new album. Also was Christi ever recorded.? This also reminds me of something else, the seperate publishing companys. On Screaming life and up to Louder than Love, they had one publishing comapany entitled Loud Love music, or something like that, so why did they all decide to have their own publishing companies? Why do artists do this? And who is Greg Gillmore? The inpsiration for Never the Machine forever. Is he like a poet or something? On more thing before I go, where can you buy Monkeys? I really want one they seem cool, I dont want on of those big hairy ones, I want one of those small ones. Thank You good night. ------------------------------ From: Audio Visual Production Unit Subject: where'd it go?? Hey guys....where did the radio station go? I was happily listening to it yesterday, voting for my fave songs, etc.....get to work today and go straight to the radio station and it's a no go WHERE DID IT GO???? Jo ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: Sales figures Does anyone know offhand how many copies Superunknown sold? In several of the article on the breakup, the sales of DOTU (3 million) were called "disappointing", which seems a bit odd. ------------------------------ From: Cornell32@aol.com Subject: Corrosion of the Outside World Hey y'all, This freak that I work with actually bought a magazine called Hit Parader Presents the Year of Marilyn Manson. Yes, I work w/ this weirdo (he's actually a nice guy w/ a wife and kids). Anyway, it had a section entitled Celebrity Rate-a-Video, and this month's reviewer was Woody Weatherman of C.O.C. Low and behold, Woody was given BUTOW to review! I will now reproduce his stellar review for all you non-followers of the Rev. Manson (let's hope that's all of you) to enjoy. Blow Up the Outside World "I haven't seen this one before. I love this song. I'm a huge fan. This song gets a 12 out of 10. Chris Cornell is one of the best songwriters around these days, not to mention one of the coolest guys. A little Clockwork Orange going on there. This is just big rock; they are one of the few bands around these days. I like the video; it has some of the images that Black Hole Sun had, like the big project (?) behind them, which is cool. This is excellent, I'm into it. Big thumbs up. " And here's his review of Johnny Cash's Rusty Cage: "Oh man, it's Cash! Man! I'm a huge fan of Johnny Cash. I've got this record. I'm sure the SG guys are excited about this 'cause they're fans too. I've been a Cash fan since I was a little kid. My old man turned me onto him. I like it when he pumps it up at the end, when it goes a little faster, chugging along. He's looking old though. My God. It's a slow-paced video, kinda typical, but it's Johnny Cash, so I can't say anything bad about it" There ya go. Hope my fellow COC fans enjoyed it. Leslie ------------------------------ From: Dave Subject: Re: Sales figures Heather Aston wrote: > > Does anyone know offhand how many copies Superunknown sold? In several of the > article on the breakup, the sales of DOTU (3 million) were called > "disappointing", which seems a bit odd. Hey 3 mill is alot, anyways Super debuted at 1 and I think it went on to sell 5 or 6 million world wide or something like that. Down debuted at 2 but thats good considering that 96 was the year of friendly power pop. IE No Doubt. I'm not putting down pearl jam but anything they put out goes numero uno, hell I bet they can put out an album of nothing but silent air, and it would go #1. Although they did fall off the charts rahter quickly. Oh well I guess Soundgarden wasnt every ones cup of tea but hey least we still got SavageGarden! ; > ------------------------------ From: RitA Subject: Re: spread the music > > << Chris cut off his hair on stage >> > > No, Chris didn't do this onstage. If I'm not mistaken, he did it at home > during one of his reclusive periods, while Susan was away on business. I > believe he mailed his hair to her...yikes.. > > Leslie > yikes? i always thought it was a sorta, kinda sweet gesture...who says chris isn't romantic? ;) <---could this be the first smiley face on somms since wednesday april 9, 1997? umm, its been 7 days, 9 hours and 8 minutes since i first heard soundgarden broke up...it seems like an eternity. i can just picture the next 70 years of my life...91 years old and still mourning soundgarden! someone asked who greg gilmore was. he's the drummer (or was) for mother love bone. well thats my pointless post o' the day. hope it was enjoyed and loved by all, ///// RitA \\\\\ ------------------------------ From: Kathie and David Subject: Soundgarden Gifts I have an idea for a thread. What *specific* gift has Soundgarden or one or more of its members given you. I don't mean the gift of wonderful music, I mean something specific. For me the gift came from Chris. I have a personality very much like his and I've always felt guilty about my reluctance to be a "social butterfly". My mother criticized me for wanting to spend time alone in my room reading and my husband has accused me in the past of being antisocial when I didn't want to go to parties or something with a bunch of people I didn't know (his friends or work buddies). I used to think there must be something wrong with me because I really have no desire to be buddy-buddy with all my neighbors. Then I got into Soundgarden and started learning about Chris and his acceptance of his reclusiveness. And the more I learned about him, the more I came to accept my own introverted personality. I realized that I'm not anti-social, but have a need for space and solitude. Now when I feel pressured to do something that just doesn't feel right I remind myself of Chris and it helps me feel OK about being the way I am. So in many ways Soundgarden has really helped me like myself better. Anybody else want to share a Soundgarden *gift*? Kathie ------------------------------ From: Dave Subject: Re: Soundgarden Gifts I wouldnt say this was a guft or anything but it was nice finding that a guy like Chris was somewhat like myself. We are alike in many ways I guess. I am an introvert and proud of it!! I hate being social it sucks. I have been known to stay indoors for weeks at a time. Why doesnt anyone belive in loneliness? I do. Chris also made me look at writing in a different style too. Write about how you feel. Not so much about your surrounding but what is inside. Thats all the gifts I can think of right now. ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: Re: Sales figures Superunknown sold 5 million copies (worldwide I assume). Down on the Upside has sold 3 million worldwide but a little over a million here in the US. I would say that they did quite well. - -vince ------------------------------ From: Fiona Thiessen Subject: Re: Hunted Down I just picked up the Hunted Down single the other night.....wooo hoooo!!! is all I can say. You got to love it when the record store owner knows you're music psycho/obsessed/addicted...you name it! and rings you when rare stuff he knows you would want comes in. Bless kind people! Especially those who own cool record stores that stock loads of vinyl, a very eclectic range of music and heaps of local artists!! It's lovely :) I've had a bit of a browse through seth's site to see if the infomation that was on a bit of paper included in the release is anywhere but cannot find it. If no one can advise me of it's whereabouts on other sites or I can't find it I will write what it says in SOMMS tomorrow. fi ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 93] ***************************************