From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 15 Apr 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:54:13 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 15 Apr 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Fresh Tendrils Ty Cobb single Re: Hey Sommsters.......remember this: Soundgarden BBS I just noticed.... Thousand email addresses Re: I just noticed.... summer nights, and long warm days Graceful Goodbye The Roots do BHS posters on walls Spread the music YES AH YES... Re: A day in the life Kim Would Be Proud Time magazine a vigil idea Re: a vigil idea Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 12 Apr 1997 Rethinking come to #somms opinion please sorry..... Am I too young? a picture The Wreck Is Going Down - The roots, rise, peak, and fall of grunge (Essay) Re: ...the garden of sound is silent today... St. Pete Times Re: come to #somms Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 14 Apr 1997 Re: Hey Sommsters.......remember this: ------------------------------------------------------------ From: sknauf@ibm.net Subject: Re: Fresh Tendrils At 01:11 PM 4/13/97 -0700, Dave wrote: >A while back some one suggested that 4th of July was never played live, >and that was proved wrong. What I want to know is if Fresh Tendrils was >ever played live. Fresh Tendrils was played live at the Armory (NY) 1994. An excellent version with Natasha on keyboards. sabrina ------------------------------ From: sknauf@ibm.net Subject: Ty Cobb single Could someone please tell me why Ty Cobb has just been released as a single in Australia??? There are 3 b-sides (incl BDS and Rhinosaur)... ?????????? Aussie sommsters... it's up to you again ;-) sabrina ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: Hey Sommsters.......remember this: Carolyn, thanks for saying something I already started to say on Friday!!! Listers, remember that no one has died--we should be thankful for that! A member of a fave band of mine died a few years ago and it's a shocking thing to go thru! WE STILL HAVE THEIR MUSIC! Also, we still live audio and video, we have stuff off of MTV and MuchMusic and some stuff from Japan tv. This band will be remembered, and as someone else today hinted, you never know--maybe they'll reunite in the future. Maybe they are burnt out right now. Get a grip, chin up! Who knows what'll happen...and mark my words, Chris has something in the offing! later....deb >Yes, a great band has broken up. >Sure, that means we'll never have a chance to see them in concert again. >And yes, sadly, they'll never produce another new album. >But THEIR MUSIC HASN'T DIED! > >We still have the music, folks. That's BETTER than just having memories when someone or something we loved has died. Not only do we have memories (I'll never forget the two times I recently saw them in concert).......we actually have something concrete that can never be taken away! MUSIC! :-) > >No band will go on forever. But their music, to their fans, will. Don't forget that. >Thinking of you all, >Carolyn the Mostly-optimistic Fan >I awoke just the same as any other day.......... > > ------------------------------ From: Alice Childress Subject: Soundgarden BBS Is anyone else having trouble posting on the Soundgarden bbs thinger? It won't let me...I musta tried it ten times..hopefully, it didnt mess up and post thesame thing ten times when I thought it wasnt posting..i HATE when that happens. "Give me my money back, you bitch." - Ben Folds Five Mostly Harmless (bbs.cowland.com/giuseppe) ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: I just noticed.... I just noticed something popping up on the list that I've experienced with other bands--yes, in being a music fan since 82, I have actually liked other bands besides Sgarden!!;) and unfortunately it's a sentiment I never understood. I'm noticing a few of us thinking and saying that Sgarden OWES us as fans SOMETHING. Sorry, no they don't. No band OWES its fans anything besides the best music they can write, and if Sgarden felt it would be compromising their integrity to continue as a band, who are we to question them??? Or to demand that they owe us anything? If it's an explanation you feel we are owed, that may come in time, but again, do bands explain every move they make to their fans? I feel it's safe to say the guys were getting burnt out to the point of no return. And I also agree w/ Seth that we chouldn't conjecture it had anything to do with Ben. My guess is it was just alot of stuff all piling up. Remember all the list talk about how thin and sickly Chris looked? I'd much rather have him healthy and happy in Seattle than getting sick trying to meet all the demands of the road. They've never been real happy about touring anyway. No one knows everything that's going on in their lives, so we really should just be patient with them and see how their own psyches respond to this break-up. later....deb ------------------------------ From: ebora87@eelab.newpaltz.edu (Alexander E. Ebora) Subject: Thousand email addresses As I checked my inbox today, I found there are more than a thousand messages. I said to myself, ooh this is some major reading task. It turns out that I was wrong. I got all the headers of a thousand Sommsters and nothing more. So I have to delete a thousand messages and wait for new ones to come. This was made possible by a power outage during the weekend which screwed the Network. Sorry if this off topic. ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: Re: I just noticed.... Your so right Deb, Soundgarden doesnt *owe* us a dam thing! They gave and gave and gave to us...look at how Chris is just screaming his heart out on jcp on motorvision! or any friggin song he sings, bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeed your heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeart out! It takes some friggin energy to do that!.....all the guys poured their hearts and souls into it.....you cant do that forever. The first thing I noticed on the week in rock review, was Chris's eyes. He looked soooooo tired and burnt, yet sooooo handsome in his tux! (I didnt see Susan, where was she?) Yea, you are right. why cant those fans be thankful for what they gave instead of being resentful for what they cant give anymore. We should love & respect them now more than ever!! Carol In a message dated 97-04-14 11:48:01 EDT, you write: << Subj: I just noticed.... Date: 97-04-14 11:48:01 EDT From: mercylib@erie.net (Mercyhurst Prep Library) To: somms@MIT.EDU I just noticed something popping up on the list that I've experienced with other bands--yes, in being a music fan since 82, I have actually liked other bands besides Sgarden!!;) and unfortunately it's a sentiment I never understood. I'm noticing a few of us thinking and saying that Sgarden OWES us as fans SOMETHING. Sorry, no they don't. No band OWES its fans anything besides the best music they can write, and if Sgarden felt it would be compromising their integrity to continue as a band, who are we to question them??? Or to demand that they owe us anything? If it's an explanation you feel we are owed, that may come in time, but again, do bands explain every move they make to their fans? I feel it's safe to say the guys were getting burnt out to the point of no return. And I also agree w/ Seth that we chouldn't conjecture it had anything to do with Ben. My guess is it was just alot of stuff all piling up. Remember all the list talk about how thin and sickly Chris looked? I'd much rather have him healthy and happy in Seattle than getting sick trying to meet all the demands of the road. They've never been real happy about touring anyway. No one knows everything that's going on in their lives, so we really should just be patient with them and see how their own psyches respond to this break-up. later....deb ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: summer nights, and long warm days What more can I say. I have a million different thoughts running through my head over last week's news. Right now, I am ok. I still feel extremely disappointed and feel a sense of loss over this but I am doing surprisingly well. I have moved on. Either I am stronger than I thought or I am in serious fucking denial. I had always thought that whenever SG would break up, that I would be depressed for weeks and that I would never be the same. But that isn't the case. What does that say about me as a fan? Soundgarden literally changed the entire way I looked at music. With Superunknown, my eyes were opened. I related to Chris Cornell. Here was a guy who tended to be a loner, has depressed thoughts, just like us all. For the first time in my life, here was a man who was just like me or you. I think we can all relate to him and his music. He was one of us. He didn't give a fuck about the money or any of the that. Although some people thrusted the mantle of a rock star on him, he never seemed comfortable with it. Anyway, although I am saddened by the breakup of the greatest rock and roll band in the modern era, my immense respect for the guys has grown more because of it. This obviously was not an easy decision for them to make. But I guess it was something they had to do. When people look at the history of rock and roll 10 or 20 years from now, how will Soundgarden fit into that picture? Will they be appreciated for their great work or will people dismiss them as just another band who broke up? Although Soundgarden had respect from their musical peers, they were never widely accepted by the mainstream for better or for worse. However, I have a feeling that the great bands that will emerge in the next decade will all list Soundgarden as one of their biggest influences. People will speak of them in reverence. About the future of Chris, Kim, Ben and Matt: Who knows. A lot of speculation has generated about a solo record, Devilhead etc. I think it would be best for all of us to simply be patient and wait for something official to come forth. I don't think we want our hearts broken again. The musical landscape currently looks incredibly barren with SG out of the picture doesn't it? Damn. They gave me something to believe in. - -vince ------------------------------ From: Cathy Hoyle Subject: Graceful Goodbye So I guess I was one of the lucky ones....I saw the bands many times (5 times on the last tour) including hanging out with them at two of the shows in Phoenix and Los Angeles; And I worked with them professionally. They are great guys and I can't really understand the reason to be sad to the point of (to quote another) 'throwing up'. You know they will all do solo stuff. What is the alternative? them turning into The Eagles and giving knowing when to retire - I say props to them for knowing when to say goodbye...gracefully... ------------------------------ From: "Anna Mehrer" Subject: The Roots do BHS Hello all in Soundgardenland, In light of the pain we've all been experiencing, I thought I would share = with you a humorous anecdote. This weekend at the Beck show at University of Chicago, a group named "The Roots" had one member do a solo of sorts. This man did some amazing vocal manipulation, with which he was able to recreate the sound of a DJ sampling various distorted voices, sounds, scratching (vinyl), etc. (at least that's what = he was telling the audience--that he was purely solo). At any rate, in this medley of his he did a one minute rendition of "Black Hole Sun" which, of = course, had me cheering. Although instead of singing "wash away the rain," he was singing "wipe away the rain" :) Of course, before he did this, he announced the name Soundgarden (woohoo!). heh. It was all very entertaining stuff. 'til next time: Anna p.s. If anyone is interested in getting together in Chicago, please let = me know by Wednesday. ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: posters on walls I know the it's over thread is getting kinda long (it is deserved, though, no matter how short the popular attention span is--i mean, twelve years comes to an end, and people get tired of talking about it in less than a week. sheesh.) but i wanted to say something about posters. my posters will stay on my walls--in fact, i may even buy more. i think jimi hendrix put it best: "the smiling portrait of you is still hanging on my frowning wall" take it upon yourself to see if you can connect the poster thing w/ the rest of the verse: "it really doesn't bother me that much at all it's just the ever falling dust that makes it so hard for me to see (and i can't remember the rest!)" And for all tea party fans, i just joined the tea party list, and the first digest i got had a discussion about save me being about hamlet. quite interesting. All these dying days.... laters. -j "Why settle for the spark when you can set the whole world on fire?" - -Sonny Corinthos, General Hospital. ------------------------------ From: DunWei@aol.com Subject: Spread the music Hi guys, When I first heard, I was hoping it was a very belated April Fool's Day joke...But when it was confirmed, I informed all my co-workers and one of them actually made fun of me! This kid has the SOMMS CD, all the albums, etc., and he was laughing cuz the guys broke up! Then the fat moron had the balls to quip: "Hey Dun, I'll come down at lunch and make sure you haven't hung yourself, ha ha ha!". What a stupid flying jizz-lapper!! I told my girlfriend, and she was more sympathetic, but not by much. (sigh)...I at least find solace in my fellow SG-ites... It will never be the same, but we can look forward to solo projects, side projects, etc. Better Kim on a Pigeonhed CD, or Chris on a soundtrack, or Matt on a Prodigy or whoever sample (yechhh...maybe not...) and Ben in Devilhead than NOTHING AT ALL. Ya know? Well, we'll always have their music to remember them by. In that area, how about we start a tape tree? I was thinking about it this way; Since SG broke up (sigh...), there obviously won't be any more SG concerts/albums/songs (at least in the near future) to sustain us. So, I propose we develop a SG database. Kinda a library of everything they ever did. Most people have the studio albums, but not everyone has the rarer stuff (Songs from the Superunknown EP, b-sides,etc.) and I don't know anyone who has ALL their concerts on tape. So I was thinking we could develop this tape tree/database thing where we can all eventually have all, or most, of their stuff. Sort of a concert library, etc. I dunno, if I'm being stupid just flame me. I'm still in shock... In a totally different category, I was pondering this: SG fell prey to the teeny-bopper locusts that always swarm onto a band when they become famous. This happened with SuperUnknown. Having a buff/super-fly frontman who ran around with his shirt off didn't exactly dispel them either. So all these little makeup-caked 15 year old girls who only knew SG for BHS or Spoonman would clamor about the band : "Oh yeah--Soundgarden...They have that hot singer, right? Yeah, I love Black hole sun, and that "Alive" song, and that "come as you are" song too! I heard that the singer and Kurt Cobain are brothers, is that true?"--this is an actual quote said to yours truly by a "woo!" girl. I usually don't look upon hitting females favorably, but in this case... Anyways, my question is this: Seeing as teeny boppers loved SG for 1) Chris and 2) BHS, do you think that having Chris do BHS solo at concerts worsened the problem? I dunno, but maybe. I get really pissed at trendies (tenny boppers and preppies who suddenly switched from khakis to thrift-store flannel when they saw it on MTV) buy all or most of the tix to a concert, and the real fans get shafted out of a show. Just thinkin.... Well, reply/flame away if it's yer pleasure. Dun-Wei ------------------------------ From: Fender Subject: YES AH YES... Well, I can't say that I'm not pissed bu the splitting of SG, but the music will always be with us and so will the memories. RIGHT FANS!! I think I'm one of the biggest SG fans to ever graze upon this earth and my "friends" laughed when they heard the news about SG so kicked the shit outta them. DONE AND DONE! HEH HEH HEH. Well, I wanna get the CD BADMOTORFINGER, I still havn't got it!! CURSE ME!! C-YA L*ter! Right now I'm Down on the Upside, But soon I'll be Ultramega OK. Although the future is Superunknown, They'll always be Louder Than Love You get so much Fopp In this Screaming Life, All you can do is show everyone your Badmotorfinger. ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Re: A day in the life >Eliza wrote: > like everything else in life, we want >things to stay the way they were, for it to be the way it was...and it the >hardest thing in the world to accept that it can't and won't... Eliza is right on this point and I think it is an important point to make. We all our saddened by the fact that there will not longer be a band called Soundgarden. BUTT there are four talented musicians who are not gone and I hope return to thrill us with their music once again. I am old enough to have lived through many many band breakups. The worse was John Bonham dying. I knew that was the end of Led Zeppelin. And I, like some of you had tickets to a LZ show that was a makeup show(the last show Zep did in Chicago they only got through 1/4 of it before Jimmy Page got sick. Bad ribs they said...bad heroin I say) After Zep broke up(and I went through depression and withdrawal) I went to see Jimmy Page on every solo outing and/or with the ill fated bands he toured with. And I went to see every solo tour by Robert Plant. No, they were not the almighty Led Zeppelin but you know what? I enjoyed the hell out of every one of those shows. I was still seeing Jimmy Page play the guitar and Robert Plant could still wail and make my heart flutter. And in 1995 when Plant/Page toured together it was terrific. No, Jimmy can't play as fast as he once could and maybe Robert is keeping his shirt buttoned and not hitting all the high notes but I did hear the thunder and glory of Led Zeppelin songs being played by the masters themselves! And it was satisfying and wonderful. What I am trying to say is that if you are a fan of Soundgarden than you are a fan of Kim,Chris, Ben and Matt and you will keep your ears and your minds open to what they are going to offer us hopefully in the near future. No, they won't be Soundgarden BUTT someday, somewhere you will hear Rusty Cage again or Fell on Black Days played by Chris or Kim or even hear Matt play JCP. For things to stay exactly the same is to become stagnate. Soundgarden has always been like a rushing powerful river and instead of their music and creative energy being damned up and becoming stagnate.....they have branched off into four streams traveling new paths. Maybe they will join together again down the way or maybe whatever they choose to do will become itself another great river. Wherever the path leads I hope it is fresh and invigorating to them as musicians and to us as fans. W.O.O flying away, Sabrina!! toni ------------------------------ From: "Aaron \"McCheese\" Beyer" Subject: Kim Would Be Proud To relieve depression: READ "RHYTHM AND NOISE" by Theodore Gracyk (Duke University press). The book is an interesting look at rock from a philosophical perspective. It will bring together your thoughts wonderfully by focusing on music*** (as opposed to lyrics). Unlike other books on music/pop culture, this puts forth the notion that rock's (and it's predessor rock-n-roll) primary medium is recording. Also, rock has it's foundation in Timbre (ie. Noise). Other music has focused on the volume(amps), pitch(frequency), and time(duration); whereas rock as we know it has a large focus on Timbre(Wave Forms). That is exactly what Soundgarden is to me, beyond all the *pretty* melodies, Soundgarden was the ***masters*** of Timbre. Literally, the sounds (beyond the songs) will forever have a impact on rock as we know it. With all of the means of studio production, they crafted sounds that were truly inspired, a true Garden of Sound. No one can point out one peticular Soundgarden "sound". Tracks like "Applebite", "4th of July", "Flower" . . . will NEVER become as boring. We'll always remember the tune and the lyrics, but our brain can't remember the Timbre . . . and it's one thing that lives on . . . and keeps us coming back. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 1010011010 ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Time magazine In this week's Time Magazine. The one with "The Most Influential People In America 1997" as it's cover. BTW, Trent Reznor is one of those< In the people section there is a small article and picture about Soundgarden breaking up. =20 "Maybe some of them started to feel cheerful"- Belinda Luscombe It hasn't been a happy year for grunge fams. First Courtney Love gets herself all glammed up, and now this. The seminal Seattle rockers SOUNDGARDEN, one of the first bands to break out of the Northwest, have split up. The terse announcement from their record company gave no reason, not even the usual pat of 'creative differences,' While never as high-profile as Nirvana or Pearl Jam, the Grammy-winning band sold more than 20 million records. Down on the upside, their last album, reached number 2 on the charts. The band which had recently finished touring, hasn't taken a summer off from one another since 1988. 'I heard they were having heavy arguments and stuff at their (last) show, but I didn't believe it,' Joey Ramone, no stranger to band-member infighting, told online service Addicted to noise,'I thought they'd have to be nuts to break up now.' Or just tired of the angst. For want it's worth....which isn't much.=20 One more thing. In the local Chicago paper (Sun Times) on last Thursday there on the top of the front page was a picture of CC with the news of the breakup with details inside. I was surprised that it was so prominently displayed. How was the media treatment where you all live??? toni ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: a vigil idea Hey I wonder if we can all get berevement air fare to fly to Seattle to hold a Sommster vigil maybe at the Sound Garden sculpture. When the airline asks for the death certificate, we can just show them any article in a paper or magazine!! ;) I wanna be in a vigil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (hope I spelled that right) Carol ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: a vigil idea On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 Slave4cc@aol.com wrote: > Hey I wonder if we can all get berevement air fare to fly to Seattle to hold > a Sommster vigil maybe at the Sound Garden sculpture. When the airline asks > for the death certificate, we can just show them any article in a paper or > magazine!! ;) this is the most ludicrous thing i've ever heard of. kurt's vigil at seattle center turned into a media circus; the vigil held there when jerry garcia died was also invaded by the media. thank god we can mourn in peace, and with each other. hold your own vigil. on saturday, when everything finally became just too much for me, i recorded some songs on a tape and drove down to the beach and played "seasons" and the acoustic "like suicide" over and over and over again and finally got it out of my system. and said goodbye to soundgarden. point being: you don't need to go anywhere in particular to hold a vigil. hold your own, in your room, with candles and incense and really really really LOUD music. the point is the same. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Carlo Medina Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 12 Apr 1997 To the guy who said that SG broke up because they couldn't stand to be around each other: that's sort of right. But to say that they weren't "together" as a aband based on album pictures, that's where you are wrong. First of all, just as you say Pearl Jam are close together in their album photos is probably just an act, distance in photos can be an act as well. You can't even tell who the guys are (well, almost, but true fans could tell) in the Superunknown CD. Yet they were still together then for sure. And you don't make an album like Down on the Upside unless your all firing on the same cylinders. Sure one or two of the guys gets writing credit on a song, but that's for the sake of how they will split up the revenue. Truth is: ALL MUSICIANS contribute, and even if Cornell writes a killer riff and lyrics like he did in Blow Up...Cameron and Shepherd still come up with their own stuff and it all adds up. I think Billy Corgan is the only one who does almost EVERYTHING on his bands' albums... Yes, towards the end they were having personal problems. But hey, can you imagine working with the same people for 12 years? I can count the number of people on ONE HAND that I still talk to after 12 years. Hell, I can count 'em on two fingers. And I didn't have to see 'em very often, unlike bandmembers. The fact that they were together for so long (yes, I realize Hiro was there for 1/2 the time, and Ben the other 1/2, but still) is a testament to lasting camaraderie that produced excellent music. A band in dissent cannot produce great music, so there is a somewhat silver lining on an otherwise dreary cloud. Better that they go out in style rather than beat a dead horse... Soundgarden is dead. LONG LIVE SOUNDGARDEN! LONG LIVE SOUNDGARDEN! LONG LIVE SOUNDGARDEN! ------------------------------ From: Kathie and David Subject: Rethinking Jen wrote: > It's one thing to not > understand someone else's grief experience, to not be able to feel the > same way they do. It's quite another altogether to be deliberately > cruel, to belittle someone, to kick them when they're down. I don't > care what the issue is, a band breakup, the death of a pet, the loss of > a friend, anything that causes a person pain. I'm no pollyanna and I > never have been. I'm at least as cynical as anybody, but it's a sad > commentary on human nature isn't it. We should all learn from this to > be very careful with others' emotional attachments, even if they seem > stupid or blown out of proportion to us. I think this was a very important statement, Jen. Grief puts people in an altered state and sometimes (many times) they say and do things that may seem irrational. It seemed like people on the list were very tolerant for the first few days, but then some started getting a little testy. If someone says something in their grief that rubs you the wrong way just try to understand that it was probably said in the heat of emotion. We need to support each other now more than ever, especially since it sounds like alot of people have virtually nowhere else to turn for support. That said, I wanted to clarify something I said the other day. I've been thinking and thinking about my statements about the band *owing* us an explanation and I have decided *owing* is not the right concept. They certainly don't literally owe us anything (thanks deb;)), but I can't help but think we do *deserve* at least a short press conference or something, even if only to say "Yeah, we had some problems that we would rather not elaborate on..." To me its an issue of personal responsibility for ones actions. Even if they hated their position "in the public eye" the fact is, that's where they were. This decision didn't just affect them and their families and their place of employment like it would if you or I quit our jobs; their decision affected millions of people. And judging from some of the posts here it has affected some people quite profoundly. I worked as a therapist and people depended on me to be there. If I had a client who had been seeing me for years and I just up and quit and had someone else tell that client I wouldn't be coming back it would be considered unethical in my line of work. Now granted, being a musician is a totally different thing, but it seems to me like they took the easy way out, like they chose to avoid dealing with the emotions their decision was sure to generate. And if you use the analogy that someone else mentioned of looking at it like a divorce involving children you would have to come to the same conclusion. If the divorce involved children in the age range represented here you better believe there would be some explaining to do. I don't think its asking too much to want to hear something from them. I imagine they are struggling with their own grief right now, but I'm hoping that eventually they will decide to talk to us in some way. I guess this is beating a dead horse at this point, but I just needed to vent some more. I have this thing about *personal responsibility* (I used to be an addictions counselor, maybe thats why). Anyway....whatever. Kathie ------------------------------ From: "Matt Cameron" Subject: come to #somms #somms is open for buisness come join me my nick is chris_cornell - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------ BEWARE: You have just been e-mail from Matt Cameron You may Replay this mail to:stimpy1@netvision.net.il - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------ ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: opinion please well now that it is all over, i am thinking about all the SG things that i didn't get yet that i want...so here is the question...is New Metal Crown worth getting? i know we probably talked about this eons ago, but everything prior to Wednesday is a blur...*sigh*... if anyone who has it could let me know, i would appreciate it thanks eliza ****************************************** I walk these streets alone, shadows hide my face My sins are etched in stone, never to erase My fears unshakeable, if I could believe I'd trade these wings of gold, for what I really need - --CC ------------------------------ From: "ARIE ELMALEH" Subject: sorry..... Hi everyone, Sorry for bothering the list with this, but I made a careless mistake. Heather, I accidentally erased the message you sent me with your address. Could you please send it again? Again, sorry for the inconvenience everybody. - -Michelle ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: Am I too young? I've been thinking. Most of the people on this list are adults, some married with kids. I'm only 13 years old, and I don't know if I 've ever mentioned this before. Am I the youngest one on the list? And if meet fellow SOMMSters in NY, I think I'm gonna be the youngest one, which maked me feel pretty stupid. But, whatever. I'm just so fuckin hurt by the breakup, I just need people of any age to relate to. even though I'm not as old as the others, I've been listening to SG for a good number of years, I think 4 years, I can't remember. I'm just as heartbroken as everyone else. I remeber my friends and family giving me SG CD's and stuff for my birthday and X-mas and stuff. Well, I just wanted to know. - -antonia ------------------------------ From: Larry Grover Subject: a picture The April issue of Hit Parader (Cobain cover) has a nice, color, full-page pic of the guys toward the back. Jen Grover ------------------------------ From: Moon Druid Subject: The Wreck Is Going Down - The roots, rise, peak, and fall of grunge (Essay) Well... that's the working title right there. The Wreck Is Going Down. An essay on grunge. I won't send it here, because I don't want to clog your mailboxes with my stuff involuntarily. But if you're interested in the essay, email me. It's worth a read. ------------------------------ From: JesusCPose@aol.com Subject: Re: ...the garden of sound is silent today... Call me crazy but I saw Soundgarden with rocket from the crypt and tenderloin at the aragon ballroom in chicago on November 9, 1996, the second to last time I will probably ever see them play. Jesus ------------------------------ From: DodeRoad@aol.com Subject: St. Pete Times I have a great article on SG, if anybody wants me to type it up, and i'd gladly do it for you. :) It doesn't blame Ben for the breakup, it just says that members walked off stage. It names Rusty Cage and JCP as classic songs, and overall it was a pretty good article... anybody want it? ~Kelly ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: Re: come to #somms Hello ;), sorry I cant go to somms# because I am a total computer IDIOT and the undernet is like....heck if i know! I would love to talk to you people in really really real, but im stuck with dip-shititis. maybe its easier than i think, like, well im here anyways. somebody help me, Im mental ~!! ;)~ carol *sigh* >>Subj: come to #somms >>Date: 97-04-14 22:00:57 EDT >>From: stimpy1@netvision.net.il (Matt Cameron) >>To: somms@MIT.EDU >>#somms is open for buisness come join me my nick is chris_cornell - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- ------------------------------ From: Fiona Thiessen Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 14 Apr 1997 Somebody wrote something about boycotting Hole's music b/c they read in Spin that she is getting Billy Corgan to write all her stuff. Hello? you honestly believe everything you read? Shit, many magazines that are in the same vein as Spin will write anything as long as it will get the reader into thinking that they have a "scoop" on an artist/band etc and thus you will think it is an informative mag and buy it. Notice how the front cover will use dramatic words, exclaimation marks etc. to get you all excited about what's inside. Unless a band member of Hole stated it or BC himself, I wouldn't even begin to give it any weight. (sorry this was not done personally) Fiona ------------------------------ From: urbano Subject: Re: Hey Sommsters.......remember this: At 06:55 PM 13/04/97 +0930, you wrote: >..........WE STILL HAVE THE MUSIC!!!! Yeah... we will have their music forever... but I've been thinking that every album (at least the last 3) have represented a very important stage in my life... Like for example Badmotorfinger has always been like my crazy nonsense youth's icon (mentally I'm an old man, remember)... ... and that feeling of having an album for each step in my life is over... of course I can always try to remember what I felt when I heard those songs, those incredible moments... but that's it... no more album per phase of life... ... and I guess that's what hurts me more of this matter... well... just my dumb ideas :) urbano ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 91] ***************************************