From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 12 Apr 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 01:55:10 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 12 Apr 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: ...Alice In Chains dead too !!... ...hurry up... my last day with soundgarden I woke the same as any other day What kind of CD's am I going to buy now? Please read, it's not that long blow up the outside world Re: had a taste so sour..had to think of something sweet ....and I'm crying long upon the loss rolling stone article ben joined devilhead It sucks I graze among the graves... The garden of sound will sing no more. yes, but.... Light a candle The wreck is going down... Re: after some thought.... please dissolve me In addition... Turn it up!!! Re: please dissolve me Learning Experience/ A small mercy tombstone And life goes on....... RE: *waaaaahhhhhhhhh* attention NY sommsters Another radio station honoring SG. Pic No More Nothing to Say and Thank Yous thank you soundgarden mourning Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 7 Apr 1997 Creation...expansion.... Re: Sommsters of New York City... close the door and pull the shades and climb the walls I need Prozac expressions of a tragedy News... i fell on black days Re: Another official word anytime soon? 120 minutes etc. Garden some laughter The End of Everything Re: some laughter Optimism AIC DEAD? Expected more from MTV? Another official word anytime soon? Rolling Stone must die... MTV as if you needed more crap... Re: regrets so, this is it Leave Ben alone. :P Re: some laughter [Fwd: MELVINS (soundgarden)] What can I say? zero chance of ever turning this around #somms Lost in the Past ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Nicolas" Subject: ...Alice In Chains dead too !!... Hi all, I just read in the last list a message of a guy named Kevin, who said that Alice In Chains was stopping too : that they're not gonna make records anymore . I think it is just too much in 2 days : Soundgarden was my favorite band for 4-5 years now. Alice In Chains was the one just after. This 2 bands are/were so important to me : I can't believe it is over for them...It would mean that "grunge is definitly dead". I know that a lot of you must think :"damn ! this fucker understood nothing !" I know that Soundgarden never wanted to be considered as "grunge" but inspite of their will, they became a symbol of this wave, as much as Nirvana or Pearl Jam. When Kurt died, a lot of people said : grunge is dead. I didn't agree b/c their was still a lot of Seattleans good bands. But now, if Soundgarden and Alice In Chains are gone too, I don't believe that the "grunge" adjective makes any sense now. I AM NOW SURE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST ... Please tell me what you're thinking... Nicolas. ------------------------------ From: "Nicolas" Subject: ...hurry up... hi all, I just read another message of a former list that says it would be cool if Soundgarden one day just give a look on the list so that they'll know how much they really meant to us. I was thinking, in case that they'll ever do it -I mean, give a look at the list- , I could maybe tell them a few words : "please let us now really-really fast how your personnal music projects sound like"...and..."a break isn't too good when TOO long". ------------------------------ From: THE SPOONMAN Subject: my last day with soundgarden they r really breaking up! this time this is final! I live in Israel, so while they were breaking up, I was asleep. when I got home the next day I checked up my mail. as I was reading my mail I suddenly saw a message about SG breaking up. I didnt believe it at first, but than I got more and more letters and I understood it was final. suddenly, everything seemed so unimportant, all the chats about pics, celenders and chris's weight seem so stupid. I'm only sorry I have never saw them on live preformence. I saw how u guys feel and suddenly I felt so close to u all, although I dont know anyone around here. I wish I had a friend to really share my feelings. some people said: "they broke up to improve their career" or stuff like that BULLSHIT! they broke up because they r sick of one another, I was never intrested in their personal life, only in their music, but I know that such a successful band will break up only because they just dont want to be together anymore. I'm also not sure about their solo career. to make such a wonderful music like soundgarden did the whole band must work as one. as telanted as they r, I'm not sure anyone could make such music on his own. I looked at some soundgarden pics. and I noticed something. they r never seem close in their pictures! they dont have a friendly group shots like PJ have (I know that those shots r probably just an act, but still...) and on DOTU cover they actually look like complete strangers! this is scary. I tried to listen to SG today but I couldnt handle it I broke up after temple of the dog. It will be hard for me to hear their music for a long time. "I still have their music" I say to myself, and all I can feel is pain in my chest "they have been together for 12 years, that's a lot" I say, and still feel the pain "they will have solo careers" I say, still in pain. "there r other bands" pain, pain, pain I think this pain is called love. the words of mad season wrap it up pretty well: "wake up young man, it's time to wake up your love affair has got to go" love to u all the spoonman btw, we should send Email from somms to soundgarden and add the last day's diegest, to let them know how we feel ------------------------------ From: Matt Woosley Subject: I woke the same as any other day ...you know I should have stayed in bed. Being a lurker, I'll just throw this in before I dissappear back into the void. I have to say something regarding the breakup of the most influential band in my life. SG was something solid that I could hold onto in this hell of a world. That rock is now gone. I can't even begin to imagine anything that could come close to replacing the music they made. It has too much meaning for me. I must say, however, that I still find comfort in listening to my CD's and I always will enjoy what they have brought to me and to all those on this list. I curse myself for not being able to see them live, but the experiences of those here on SOMMS made me feel as though I had gone to a concert. The posts I read the last two days made my cry but also helped me through this emptiness. I am glad everyone here has the same feeling. So, in my last words on this list: Thank you Seth for the wonderful Page and list, thank you SOMMS for sharing your experiences, thank you Caryn, Shroom, Dena, Aaron, (any significant list contributer I left out, my apologies), and thank you Soundgarden. Your music has brought me direction, help, and joy. Love to all, Matt Woosley ------------------------------ From: Gimpilater@aol.com Subject: What kind of CD's am I going to buy now? This sucks shit does'nt it? I have been waiting and hoping for a new SG CD to come out and now it never will. Sound Garden has slowly but surely becoming my favorite band. I was even going to go to the next concert they have here in Seattle but I guess the hell with that. I should have gone to the last one when I had the chance. When I first heard the news yesterday I didn't believe it but after the third time they said it I screamed FUCK!!!!!! and started punching the inside of my car. How did all you people react when you first heard the news? I don't cry very often. It had been about a year since the last time I did it but yesterday I was filled with such sorrow realizing I would never get to see my favorite band in concert that I broke down and sobbed. Sound Garden has had a big positive impact on my life and they will be greatly missed. Will this list keep going even after they are gone? I hope so. It kicks ass. Adam ------------------------------ From: java4u@sos.net Subject: Please read, it's not that long Today I had to go to school even though I still felt like puking my heart out. I walked around in a daze listening to Soundgarden on my discman. Last night I had cried my eyes out, I just wanted to get the crying over with so I wouldn't be on the verge of tears the next day at school. But oh no, when I saw my friend we hugged, and started spilling our guts about it and before you know it I was crying. Everyone thought I was tired, stoned, & angry. Fuck them, they don't understand. Why don't people get off of your case, if they can tell your sad, or depressed about something? You sommsters are the coolest, I wish that there was some way that we could all get together, and just give eachother hugs and talk about SG in person, instead of though corrsepondece. you guys are of the few that understand my love for SG and are the only ones I feel I can share my feelings with. Sure I may get flamed a few times every once in a while, but a majority of my friends are SG fans. Did this SG news come unexpected for everyone else? I mean it was total shock. I had kind of heard stuff about it, but this was definately last thing I'd expect. Thanks for Listening Rachel Peace Love Empathy ------------------------------ From: Larry Grover Subject: blow up the outside world Is it true, as I read, that the last song they played together before Ben left the stage was Blow Up the Outside World? Does anyone else see the irony in this? Jen Grover ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: had a taste so sour..had to think of something sweet >A spokeswoman for Soundgarden's management company said ''there was no drama >attached'' to the breakup, but she declined to elaborate on why the group >should split at the peak of its career. No drama attached, huh? I thought I'd be able to go into work today and just get on with things, but I'm reading the zillionth extra digest (thanx Seth) and the hearfelt posts have set me off crying all over again! Imagine how the guys themselves must be feeling! Even though it was their decision, and even *if* they had some tough times with each other in recent months, I'm sure they must be feeling sad/confused/angry and a million other things - perhaps including one emotion we certainly don't share or even understand just yet - a sense of relief. It cannot have been an easy decision to make. It's certainly not easy to take. >then they started in on the "took the money and run" thing. the >fuckers. after i write this i'm calling to give them a piece of my >mind. Hey, maybe the deejay is as mad as hell at them for breaking up too! He jsut had achance to vent his anger and confusion on air. Just a suggestion. Well I'm going to play BMF on my walkman as I travel into work. I haven't been able to play any Soundgarden since I heard the news. This could be an uncomfortable experience for my fellow commuters! :-) UKDeb ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: ....and I'm crying long upon the loss What can I say that hasnt already been said? What can I feel that you all dont already feel? I am not as gifted in the art of writting as some of you on this list... So it is very hard for me to put to words what I am feeling. I am truly sadened by the news. I know that there will never be a band that reaches out and grabs me the way that Soundgarden has reached out and grabbed me. They have touched my life in so many ways its unbelievable . They have given me so much that I am sure its going to last me a life time.Yes, I will always have the music, videos, magazine articals and other assorted items..... but *best* of all I will have all the great memories! and those babies cant be replaced!!! Thank you to all the SOMMSters who in one way or another have been a BIG part of those memories...I hope that we continue to build on them. A HUGE-- more than words can express -- Thank you to Seth, who had the vision to create SOMMS and the unoffical page..... because with out you none of this would be possible... ( you truly are the RULIEST!!! ) and a specail Thank You to my SiCA Shroom. Soundgarden was what brought us together...( it was fate. the end ) we will always have the great memories and the *wild* stories and nothing can take that away!! ! You are my Sister in Crime and you always will be....no matter if we are stalking rock stars or not ... I Love ya babe.. your the greatest friend!!! Last but not least........Thank you to SOUNDGARDEN!! Matt Cameron, Kim Thayil, Chris Cornell and Ben Shepherd!!! Thank you for completley rocking my world for the last 8 years, for making music that completely touches every once of my soul and for sharing your incredibly talented musical gifts with me. I will miss the band called SOUNDGARDEN ( in more ways that I can express here )....for there is no other band that can come close to what you had or accomplished. I wish you all the very best in whatever you do.. and happiness to you all! It so unbelivable to think that it has some what come to an end....I am still really shocked by it all!!WWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! " Hey Shroom..... Can ya pass me the prozak... like NOW!!!!!" " Whatsoever I've feared has come to life............. " ~~Fell On Black Days " I'm thinking of your highness and crying long upon the loss......." ~~Zero Chance "...Close your eyes and bow your head... " ~~ Burden in my Hand A very sad and forlorn Blessed SOMMS Goddess Dena =(~ ------------------------------ From: RachelMak@aol.com Subject: rolling stone article on this very very sad day, its most important 2 remember the enjoyment Soundgarden has brought all of us over the years. Still, I feel like my best friend died. I can't believe I'll never see Soundgarden live ever again. well, here is the most info I found. It comes from the rolling stone AOL site (yeah i know chris would be disappointed) but it has some quotes and refers to Ben being a big part of the break-up. rachel :( :( :( :( Soundgarden Splits : Grunge pioneers call it quits to pursue other projects After 12 years and five albums, Soundgarden formally called it quits this morning in a statement issued by their label, A&M Records. Although the statement said the group was disbanding to "pursue other interests," sources have speculated that frustration with touring, artistic differences and tension with bassist Ben Shepherd also contributed to the breakup. "Kim [Thayil] and Chris [Cornell] sat down the other day....and they said, 'Look, we've accomplished everything we've wanted to do, there's a lot of pressure for us to be Soundgarden, people's jobs depend on us, but we've done it all, we've been to the mountain and back, maybe it's time for us to try something different for a while," says a source close to the band. Another reason for the split was Shepherd, Soundgarden's third bassist, who reportedly walked offstage during the middle of the band's February 9 performance at the Neal Blaisdell Arena in Honolulu. The show turned out to be the band's last. Shepherd also irritated his bandmates by saying he was going to leave Soundgarden to devote all his time to his side project Devilhead, according to Shelly Gossard of Loosegroove Records, Devilhead's label. "Kim told me this had been coming for a while," says the source. "They had actually been considering it since Ben's little temper tantrums in Australia and Hawaii. The very end of the last tour, the writing was on the wall for them. They had not been happy for a very long time." The entire statement reads: "After twelve years, the members of Soundgarden have amicably and mutually decided to disband to pursue other interests. There is no word at this time on any of the members' future plans." Members of Soundgarden have long been involved in various side projects. Cameron and Shepherd formed the band Hater with friends in 1993 and released an album on A&M. More recently, guitarist Thayil and drummer Matt Cameron played on the new album from Pigeonhed, a side project formed by Screaming Trees producer Steve Fisk and Satchel singer Shawn Smith. ROBERT LEVINE with TOM ------------------------------ From: "ARIE ELMALEH" Subject: ben joined devilhead Hey guys, I have some good news for you. I just heard on 102.1 The Edge in Toronto that Ben has joined Devilhead. See? They all are still going to stay in the music biz, or at least a couple of them will. Let's not dwell on what might've been. Just focus on now. I know that everyone is still greiving about our loss of, in my opinion, the greatest band of the '80's and '90's. I'm still in great shock. But I realized that I have to face the truth, and I have to beleive that the ex-members of Soundgarden will move onto other projects, maybe even re-unite someday. All you have to do is beleive. Talk to ya later, Michelle ------------------------------ From: Dave Subject: It sucks Well I'm back, my comp has been down for about 2 weeks now, and Wednsday was a bad day to not be able to communicate with you guys. Seth's site was mentioned on the radio yesterday, by the the Kevin and Bean morning show on the world famous KROQ out here in southern California. Well I got to sift through my 489 e-mail messages, I'll digress more on the Soundgarden breakup, later. Dave ------------------------------ From: "wyn" Subject: I graze among the graves... Since tonight everyone at home went out or was away for the weekend I decided to play all my soundgarden CDs in craniological order (yeah I know, what's new?) I hadn't been able to since I read my mail Thursday morning as all the posts were coming in from the US about the break up. So tonight I also got out the tape that my brother taped Recovery on, where Matt Cameron was on (amazingly I have been able to prevent him from taping over it). So I was watching this and I just couldn't believe it in retrospect. Wouldn't they have to have known in January that they weren't going to stay together and persue new directions as Matt Cameron says that they are, or perhaps they had decided that if they continued anything forthcoming would be stale? When he said that "...it's just all part of growing as a band..." I know that I assumed that they were going to grow together as a band not apart. *******"A lot of times if you just keep you know on the same track that you've been going for years and years it'll get old and stale. So we try to stretch it as much as we can and we can go a lot farther too. So.. I think in the future we'll do experimenting and hopefully it'll keep rocking and it'll contain all the elements that people know us for but yeah it's just all part of growing as a band to do that."*********** The full transcript at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/misc/tv_3-15-97.html Bronwyn E-mail : wyn@powerup.com.au & Wyn ------------------------------ From: Peter Taylor Subject: The garden of sound will sing no more. I could tell you all how shit my day was, but there's already to much depression, but just today when I was so depressed, my best freind told me (and only me) she was leaving my school. I miss her, I miss them. I just wanted to express my thanks to the really nice guy at quality records who gave me a free gigantic soundgarden poster to cheer me up. It susually worth $20 dollars. He gave it to me when I bought DOTU on vinal, I already have it on cd. I want to thank you all for being her. Its really hard becasue none of my freinds give one, and some even laughed. I wanted to strangle them. I want to thank soundgarden for all the great music, and expree my appreciation to them for coming to Melbourne australia just 12 weeks ago. I saw them twice in two days. It was the best weekend of my life. I'm finding it hard to still get the ful essence of the music, but at least it will still live on, and the ledgend will live on. Enen if there band dosn't. Thankyou soundgarden. Nicky. Today felt like a dream. It was so not real, but it was a nightmare. Seth, please don't let this list end. ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: yes, but.... Ok, so everybody is in mourning. I for one am not exactly taken by surprise, for some reason. I'm in the league of Sgarden folks who are glad they called it quits while they had some integrity and were still friends and all that. Yes, it's sad the band we're so fond of broke up, BUT....we need to remember a couple fo things--they're all still alive AND they all have outside projects. We will hear music from these guys again. Chris has something up his sleeve, even if it's producing his brother Peter's new band....mark my words. ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: Light a candle I needed to change my user name. I decided to do it on Wednesday. No e-mail that day. Then came Thursday. A guy at work phoned me and asked how I was, and was surprised when I said "great". He told me there was a broadcast on JJJ. I didn't believe him. I itched desperately to get home and check my mail. I did. And as my first message, this from Toni: > Hi Georgia, I got to thinking that with your name change coming today you >might be not getting your mail correctly and might not get the digest. >There was an official announcement that Soundgarden is breaking up. Aaron called SM and talked to Erin and it is true not a rumor. What does one say on hearing this kind of news about something that has been so influential in your life for so long? To say that I am devestated is an understatement. I lit a candle last night. And I joked half heartedly today about wearing a black arm band to work. The carnival is over. And although I am shocked and incredibly sad that I will never hear something new, beautiful and inspiring from that collective known as Soundgarden, I revel in the knowledge that those four people going their own seperate ways will now begin the creation process again as individuals, and again perhaps give me four new wonders to behold. And my memory is amazing... I await. georgia ------------------------------ Subject: The wreck is going down... From: seth Many people are wondering what the breakup means for the site and this mailing list. In a word, nothing. Soundgarden's music doesn't die because they won't be giving us more, and I hope that the website will continue to stand as a tribute to their 12 years of achievement. There is more than enough work to do based on the band's existing recorded output, and I will continue to do it as long as I am able. To those who feel in some way cheated by the band's decision, remember that a wise woman once said if there were one thing they did owe the fans, it's to be true to themselves, and if disbanding is what they need to do to satisfy that, then so be it. If you are upset that there will be no more new music from Soundgarden, I urge you to listen to Badmotorfinger again. Listen to it through a different stereo, or through headphones, and I promise you will hear new music. The band has given us something that will always be fresh, always new, and always exciting, and it will last forever. Cherish that gift and don't let the music die. seth ------------------------------ From: Andrea Subject: Re: after some thought.... clr@nwlink.com wrote: i > just think they were *unhappy* and just didn't know it. sometimes you don't > know until you sit down to t hink about it. sometimes you avoid thinking > about it because you know you're unhappy, because it's just too big and too > scary and too huge to deal with. I couldn't agree more. I have no doubt that this was an incredibly difficult thing for them to come to terms with and, like most people, they put off having to deal with it until they absolutely couldn't avoid it any longer. > > i admire t hem for calling it quits. a lesser band would have gone on. > (lesser bands *have* gone on even when they no longer have anything relevant > or interesting to say, as many of us have pointed out.) but this is not a > lesser band, this is *soundgarden* we're talking about. God, I shudder to think of them putting out some mediocre album just because they felt like they had some sort of obligation to their fans or their label or whoever. Now, we can always remember them with a deep sense of pride and admiration for being true to THEMSELVES. > > and yes, this is like someone has died. because for each of us, a little > bit of us has died right now. a part of our lives is over. for some of us, > a VERY significant part of our lives is over. and there's no way that it's > not going to cause us deep pain. > > do i think that the band knows this? yes, i do. and i think that the band > is also hurting right now. this is hardly a decision they came to lightly. > i am most sure they knew what pain this would cause us. but there was > nothing they could do about that. Last night a friend of mine likened it to a divorce with children involved. He said most of the time it's better for the kids if the parents are apart and can give them what they need separately than if they stay together and can't even think about the kids because they're too busy fighting with each. (The kids, in this case, I think, would be the music--not the fans.) I'm sure the guys loved their band and the music they made together just as much as we did and I'm sure everyone involved with this from the band to the management to the fans are all in great pain. On a personal note, I just want to say that I know I don't post much, but I read my digest everyday (often skipping over the infantile in-fighting;-)) and have been very grateful that Seth has made us digesters a part of this discussion. I have never felt more a part of this group than I have during the last two days. I guess these kinds of things bring people closer together and when we're all feeling such a similar since of loss, all the fighting seems quite unecessary. I'm just really glad to be a part of SOMMS right now and to have all of you to turn to and to listen to and to share this with. Andrea ------------------------------ From: Andrea Pinto Subject: please dissolve me I feel like I just got kicked in the stomach, as I'm sure you all feel. Bonnie compared this to a death, and she was right. I'm not angry, just confused. My problem in dealing with this is that it seems so premature to me. I still turn on the radio, and am hearing cuts from DOTU played frequently. I never thought that they were tired of making music with each other. For most bands 12 years is a long time, but they still seemed to be so fresh and vital. I guess this was not the case, and I feel a tad naive for not seeing this coming. Of course if they were not happy, I don't want them to be together. But I don't want to think of them like that. That's one of the things I loved about following this band-not just their music, but the camaraderie between them. I'll miss that. I will support them in all their future endeavors and I respect their decision. Thanks SG. *sigh* -Andrea. ------------------------------ From: Alice Childress Subject: In addition... All in the space of two days, I've lost both my favorite band and my best friend. I told him I feel like the world is coming to an end, and he didn't care. I needed his help and what did he do? He told me to go and buy some Midol. Fucking insensitive bastard. Then, *I* apologized to HIM! AND HE WON'T ACCEPT MY APOLOGY! What the hell! I'm the one who should be mad at HIM! I gave out a cry for help, and he's telling me to take Midol..asshole...ugh I want to take the stupid monitor right now and find him and throw it at him. Sorry this is going to the list, but I'm sure you're all going through a lot of pain, and so am I, and since people who I THOUGHT were my friends don't give a damn, maybe people who can relate to me in some way WILL. I don't even know how I'm FUNCTIONING right now. If anyone listened, thanks. "Born without a friend and bound to die alone" Zero Chance. ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Turn it up!!! Hello all, I guess the initial shock has worn off I have listened to just about every Soundgarden CD and tape I own and tonight Rita and I are going to drink beer and watch Soundgarden Videos. Yes, I feel like I have been in mourning but tonight it is going to be an Irish wake. We have all been eulogizing are beloved band for three days now. I have felt like absolute dog shit for 3 days. I have read every post and nodded my head in agreement or wiped a tear in empathy. And now for me it is time to use my memories and the music to begin to enjoy Soundgarden once again. I think some of us are having a rough time because Soundgarden's music was something that helped us get through bad periods in our lives. I know more than once listening to the words, Chris's voice, Kim's wail, Matt's heartbeat and Ben's riffs have pulled me out of my doldrums. But for the last few days the music made us more sad...it didn't cure our blues it made them bluer! But you have to rediscover what it was that made you love Soundgarden in the first place. And that means the sadness has to be put aside. Not forgotten just moved a little to stage left so that the music that is Soundgarden can come back center stage and thrill you once again. Be well my friends and have your own Irish wake this weekend. toni ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: please dissolve me >I never thought that they were tired of making music with each other. For most bands 12 years is a long time, but they still seemed to be so fresh and vital. i think that is one of the toughest things for me too....12 years is so long, and we have been so lucky for that (of course not thinking about it much till it is over..), but... I AM NOT READY YET....IT IS TOO SOON....i know my feelings mean nothing in the scheme of things, but that is how i feel....i am not ready for this to end...i need it now more than ever....i need to have them continue and i need to stay focused on it...and now i can't.... it is also hard for me to think about how weird this must be for them....Chris was a teenager when this all began - he grew up as Soundgarden...he has done little else...sure that may be a reason why it is time for them to move on, but i just can't imagine Chris and Kim = Soundgarden no longer... ugh...i am glad i can vent here...but i am so damn worn out from it all....i never would have guessed that i would like to toss it all in and go hang out with 700 total strangers (well about 675 of you are strangers ;-) hang in everyone... eliza ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: Learning Experience/ A small mercy Growing up, I was taught that the experiences we learn the most from, are those which are most painful. Even though the news is still fresh, I'd like to ask everyone what they have learned from this so far? It has taught me to live a little more. I never got to see SG, and of course I'm kicking myself for it. The first opportunity I had was Lollapalooza. They were really the only band I *really* wanted to see, so it didn't seem worth paying $30 and standing out in the hot sun all day. Then I got a ticket for their last date in New York City. It was cancelled. I tried to get tickets to Philadelphia or Washington, and found somone offered me a ticket to the Philly show. One of my faults is that I tend to be too rational and controlled at times. Throwing caution to the wind and just doing something is not something I do often. I balked at paying $65 for the ticket, I'd just spent hundreds of dollars on medication, and had really nothing to spare. So It didn't go. :-( What a fool I was. I held out hope they would reschedule the New York date. Of course, I was disappointed that they didn't but I could wait a year, or two to see them. And now this. So I've learned that sometimes perhaps I should do things that may seem imprudent, I may regret it later if I don't. After being in shock and not believing the news, I thought "Thank heaven for small mercies." Someone, perhaps caryn mentioned how much she regrets not having gone to see Nirvana. It made me think I should be grateful- that the band could have been broken up because of death. This way, we do have the future projects of each member to look forward to. It's not the same, but a tiny bit of salve for the wound. ------------------------------ From: Werewolf from Soundallot Subject: tombstone For the bands tombstone you can visit my site. www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/alley/7296/soundgarden.html there is also a link from seths ArtGallery (thanks seth) - -the Werewolf of Soundallot "a troubled world in toubled times, gives no rest to a worried mind, but these are where the devil play's and they will be his undoing someday." - -song I wrote ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: And life goes on....... Hello I sure hope you are all recovering somewhat from the initial shock of the bad news. Its like losing a good friend. A long but hopefully cheery post. >>From: SUSAN@crystl.ucsb.edu >>Subject: fugue state >>SG, HOW COULD YOU LEAVE US MIRED IN AND SURROUNDED BY ALL THIS SHITTY, MEDIOCRE MUSIC, WITH NO HOPE OF RESPITE?<< No doubt! I so agree with you. But I had to look up "respite and fugue" in the dictonary. ;) I was m, buzzed last nite during a 6 hour Sdg-athon. And while watching Motorvision for the 3rd time, I could suddenly understand everything, every word. Have you ever noticed: Chris messes up on mind riot and sings "somebodys talkin four world wall" <----hee hee ;). Chris says at the end, in his deep, sexy voice, "Im willing to bet you, JP dug us". Bens bass on the fill in "Jesus, hes my friend..doesnt sound right and it really stands out. I could follow the entire conversations in the van... The two main ones on dentistry and steering wheels, which were spliced apart, and fill in the missing parts myself ;). Ever heard of bands breaking up to get out of contractual agreements? It happens, but I cant say thats what they did, or would do. Carol Slave4CC... "Im a search light soul they say, but I cant see it in the night" Its so true. I wish Chris would have devoted an entire song to him and his "search light" soul. ------------------------------ From: "Jamal O. Johnson" Subject: RE: *waaaaahhhhhhhhh* - ---------- I tried to refrain from needless posts during this whole period of = intense sadness, thinking a silent tribute better than a 3 page long = post on the who's whats whens and why's of their breakup. But just had = to check out Shrooms page one last time. If you haven't visited it, go = NOW. It nearly broke my heart...and that aint easy. - -Looking towards the future... (with my good eye closed, of course) - -J - ---------- From: Caryn Rose[SMTP:clr@nwlink.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 1997 11:20 AM To: somms@MIT.EDU Cc: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com; Andrea Pinto; geekgirl@aol.com; bonnie cochran Subject: *waaaaahhhhhhhhh* i went to shroom's page today... i was cleaning out my bookmarks at work and i had the 'you know you're obsessed with soundgarden' page marked, = so i thought i'd go see what was there... *cry**cry**cry**cry**cry* http://members.aol.com/shroomgrlz/index.html this just says it *all*. {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}} shroomy - --c. ------------------------------ From: janet adams Subject: I just want to thank Soundgarden for inspiring me to pick up a guitar in the first place and do something that I never thought was possible. Write music. I never got to see you live but the image will always be in my head and it's awesome. Thanks for creating songs like Fell On Black Days, Blow Up the Outside World and Tighter & Tighter to help me through the tough times and writing songs like My Wave, Hunted Down, and Flower that always pump me up and make me smile. Your music always caused some sort of emotion to flow through me and that's why your music will always be special. Thank You. WES ADAMS ------------------------------ From: "Soundgarden Girl" Subject: attention NY sommsters Hey Guys, I saw on the last list that someone said that there was going to be a radio special on Soundgarden. Would someone be kind enough to tape a copy to me? I'll pay for postage and the tape. Let me know if you'll do it. Thanx, Michelle - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Another radio station honoring SG. 103.3 KDF in Nashville is having a Soundgarden weekend. All day Saturday and Sunday they will be giving away SG catalogues. May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Pic This is straying way off the subject of SG's breakup, but this is not near as depressing. It's actually quite humorous yet annoying. The RIP 4/94 pic of Chris. I have saved this pic 3 times, but it keeps doing the same thing. His head is in the right place, but right under that is some distortion and there is just his mouth and his body is way to the right of his head. It looks absolutely ridiculous. I love this pic and I can't seem to get it with Chris and all his parts in the right place. Can anybody help me with this? May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: mstefanova@clarku.edu Subject: No More I am perhaps the newest sommster, I only joined a few days ago to get the "privilege" to learn the sad news as early as possible. Too bad my second post here has to be a Soundgarden mourning. Still I'm glad I have a place to vent, even though I'm a perfect stranger to all of you guys. Around 1991, Soundgarden music somehow made it to Bulgaria (where I come from). I came across Badmotorfinger pretty much by accident (to admit, the cover looked intriguing) and fell in love with that band. I went on looking for other SG stuff (not that easy a job in my country) and, to cut the long story short, it ended up being my favorite band. Not surprising... When I came here, I only hoped for a chance to see them. They cancelled the live I planned to attend but I was confident I'll be able to see then sooner or later. Didn't work out. What should I say, I cried for Soundgarden, I will miss Soundgarden, and I will treasure the heavenly music they gave us. And I do hope they won't call quits to doing music, because then it will become a real disaster. Anyone there living in central Massachusetts? I would love to hear from you and share our post-SG grief. Miss them like hell Maria ------------------------------ From: Anders B-N Nergaard My reaction to the SG break-up, I went and bought something I should've done a long time ago. I went and bought Truly's "Fast Stories...From Kid Coma". After having listened to it a couple of times, I thought: -Hey, this really kicks ass... Well, if Hiro can pull of something like this, imagine what the rest of the guys will. Now I'm even looking forward to the new releases from the guys. Instead of one band (+ sideprojects) to follow, I'll now get at least four. So if you haven't bought or listened to Truly, I highly recommend it while were waiting for new releases. Andy "Fill your head with crazy sounds" - -I'm looking forward to it :) ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: Nothing to Say and Thank Yous I can not say anything that hasn't been said. I feel like everyone else on the list. I thought, being as I feel so crappy, maybe some thank yous will cheer me up. I thank Soundgarden for the 12 years they gave us and their wonderful catalogue of music. I thank Seth for getting this list together and enabling people from all corners of the earth, who were total strangers to meet and become friends. I'm thankful for the fellow SOMMSters whoom I've met online and in person for being such cool humans. I am extremely grateful for this list and #somms so that I can "be" with people who feel like I do at this crazy time. Sometimes our "friends" can be so in-sensitive. My friends are like that. They say, "What's the big deal? It's only a band." Jerks. As long as we have each other, we will make it through these times of trouble. - -- gene ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: thank you soundgarden this is my 3rd post since the sadness overcame us. and it's just to let you know that i work at a card store and searched the Thank you section for an hour until i came across the perfect card. outside: flower in a pot "beautiful people..." inside: plain, tan colored, "cause beautiful things to happen." so i wrote a short thank you and signed it Somms@mit.edu. do you all mind? do you all care? because i am going to mail this card out, it will make me feel better even if the four we love never read it, or even susan. god this is such shit. i have this weird mask over my face the past few days. i've walked around in what my friend called "a strange daze. " and today i broke again, because my locker wouldn't open and it frustrated me to the point that somehow SG got involved. and someone stole something from my locker a few days ago. and my job half closed itself down and cut my hours by more than half. bad things happen in threes, i've always realized. but number three is not always as bone numbing and heart wrenching as this past one. eliza said something about the image with the RS article... frankly, i think that if you look at the cover of spin from july, i believe, and the photos of cc and the one of matt and ben and the one of kim... they all look so sad and not all quite there. i've been worried about chris for a long time now, and i guess i can see now where his drinking and weight loss spurned from: stress over something he loved very much. but i will not write any more. i can barely stand reading all the hundreds of posts, it breaks my heart and makes me cry everytime. shroom, your page is really a tear-jerker. i don't know what to say to you. or anyone else for that matter. yes, i feel a bit betrayed, but i'd rather have them not betraying themselves. and so i cried again today, for real and the hardest i've done so far. it was such a jar, it sent me into total shock and the tears never really came out that much. and i'm a crier too. = ) and you know what? i got a message yesterday from the mailing list (US mail) that congratulated me on being added to their mailing list, and that they sent out updates about 3 or 4 times a year. what fucking pain i was in after i read that. it was the saddest thing in the world. and i never joined KOTS for real, i only somehow recieved the christmas package. would it be wise to do so now, or is it just a lost cause and i missed the boat ? and now i'm done. i love this list, i love these people, i love you silver managements, i love this music but most of all... Soundgarden... please.... remember, i love you, love you.... mind riot ____ candle's burning yesterday, like somebody's best friend died... ------------------------------ From: "Wilson Vanessa Faye" Subject: mourning Fellow mourners, I'm back on this list now, because I had faith that there would be you guys out there who feel the same way as me. I just did not have the time to read the previous ones from the touring season. I have to say, I am damn lucky to have seen them twice in less than one year. I went to Lollapalooza this year, mainly because of them, and I'm from North Carolina and my friend and I drove to Atlanta on November 23rd to see them because they did not show in NC. Both their shows were equally awesome, both shows started out with Spoonman, Chris also played Black Hole Sun solo, and ended with Jesus Christ Pose. Those of you out there who were privileged to see them like I was, we will always have the memories in our hearts and our minds. Those of you who did not see them, the same!!!!! I just know that we all love them very much, and their music will never die! At least they ARE going to stay in the music business, and we will be able to hear Chris Cornell's voice again someday. I have to admit, after my piano lesson, my best friend told me and I cried and screamed, which was exactly what I did when 3 years and 1 day exactly after that, I was doing the same thing after finding out Kurt Cobain was found dead. So I guess my last words for right now are you end up being able to deal with it, and it may be hard at first, but it can be dealt with. alternachic ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 7 Apr 1997 This message REALLY irritated me: RAINYDAY13@aol.com wrote: > hey everyone. In response to the entry on 665 backwards, I'm the SOMEONE that > mentioned this to the list sometime last year, maybe even in late '95. A > couple of people on the list thought it was funny and noone mentioned it > anymore. I saw the clip on the homepage of 665 in reverse, but I didn't know > people were actually claiming they were the first to do it. Well, you can add yourself to that list. I just did a chronological order search on the Mailing List Archives and "low and behold" Little Joe was the first to mention this on the list. T'was Wednesday August the 8th 1995. Congrats to Little Joe. > They took the idea from me. WOW! What a great idea! Playing a song with backwards messages in reverse to see what it really says? WOW! I would have never thought of that!!! Pat yourself on the back! Wait a sec. What about 'Motorcycle Loop'?? Hey, it has some backwards stuff in it too! I could play it backwards and say that I was the first to do it! Then I'd be just as cool as you! >At least, let the truth be known about whose idea this was. No problem. Like I said, it was Little Joe. BIG FUCKING DEAL. - -- Chris Mackenzie ------------------------------ From: cornell Subject: Creation...expansion.... Soundgarden...i'm past the grief and pain, and still carry these boys in my heart. I was afraid of losing them till I realized that the men will still be there. Perhaps the SG chapter of our lives IS over, but I don't expect any of them to drop off the face of the earth. These men are creators. They have a need to create and to express themselves. I know when I deny myself the time to create, either out of apathy or stupidity, I become miserable until I finally sit down and do what I 've been thinking about. I doubt the boys from SG are unlike that...they will create. Which is good. And how are we to find out? Perhaps that is what the list will evolve to...something where we can ask "have you heard that Matt's joining the Butthosers? I can't wait to check it out!" Due to the extensiveness of the membership, we were always the first ones to know about some single or release or t-shirt that would take months for an individual to find out about. That's pretty damn cool. Maybe Soundgarden was taken away from us, but we still have plenty to say. Fuck unsubscribe. I'm staying on this list till the final hour. Gregg - -- d i s i l l u s i o n http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 "bring it down and under-in" ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: Re: Sommsters of New York City... Hey. That sounds like a good idea. Finally, people I can relate to about the the most important thing in (was in I guess) my life. Nobody I know (not including this list) loves, Soundgarden ,and hardly like them. I can't talk about this to anyone except you wonderful people. Also, thanks for the KROCK info, I be sure to record it on Sunday. I've also talked to Matt from the station a few times. I actually explained the whole incedent in Hawaii to him, because he wasn't sure what happened. Then after he thanked me, he asked,"Do you think they're gonna break up?" I said, "No! They can't. It's Soundgarden." Just my fuckin luck. - -antonia ------------------------------ From: Cornell32@aol.com Subject: close the door and pull the shades and climb the walls Hey y'all, I know that some of you probably won't agree w/ what I have to say, but these thoughts have helped me through this hellish pain, and maybe by sharing them, they will help someone else. It's fucking over, and it's fucking horrible, and nobody saw it coming. It hit like a Philip's head into our brains. None of us wants to deal w/ it, including me. I too, didn't want to hear anyone say, "Well, there will be solo projects, other bands, etc." We want SG, not some reasonable facsimile of! But y'all, I'm coming to realize that this isn't just a bad dream, and as much as it hurts to think, all we have left (besides many years of memories) are hopes that we will see new projects from the guys in the future. No, of course it's not going to be the same, or as good. But I was thinking last night that I know I'm gonna be wigged-out-groovin when I hear that any of the guys is coming out w/ new material, or especially, coming to Atlanta!!! I'll be *almost* as excited as if it were SG. I know it's not as good, but you know, we don't have anything else, and all the crying in the world won't bring them back to us =(. And about reunion tours: yeah, they're cheezy as hell. But the happiest day of this year was when I heard that the original Black Sabbath, my 2nd favorite band, was doing a reunion tour w/ Ozzy. Sure, it's for the $, but will I miss it? HELL FUCKIN NO!!! I'm flyin all the way to Dallas to catch that mother! Sometimes you have to settle for what you can get... All of my love and support goes out to each and every one of my fellow SOMMSters. And I think we all owe Seth a debt of gratitude for bringing us all together. Think how lonely this loss would be if we didn't have each other? w/ big Georgia girl hugs for everyone, Leslie "The hand of God's got a ring about the size of Texas" "...I feel like i'm tied to the railroad tracks..." "nothing's gonna pinch this nerve of mine..." "I think it's coming on the wind...and i'm gonna let it.." "This may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to..." ~tool ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: I need Prozac I'm never going to be completely be happy for the rest of my life. Now my chance to see the band is 0%. The tickets for Roseland sold out in seconds, I was away during Lolla. All I want to do (have to do) before I die is see them with my own eyes, hear them with my own ears, together. But that will never happen. Why does my life suck? Why haven't I seen them? Also, Ben is, and was always pissing me off. I hear about his tantrums. Why couldn't they just kick him out? Why break up? They had their own reasons for that. Why can't this all be a nightmare? I don't kow. I think God is punishing us. as the tears roll down, - -antonia ------------------------------ From: LoudLoveCC@aol.com Subject: expressions of a tragedy Once I flashed my smile, now I bite my lip. Once my eyes would shine, now they flood with tears. Once I felt energenic, now I just feel numb. Once the walls were covered, now they just are bare. Once I knew some talents, now they have "disbanded". Once I hear some music, now I hear only silence. Once I heard the laughter, now I hear the screams. Once I knew the remedy, now I just feel pain. Once I saw an angel, now he's lost his wings. Once I had a teacher, now he's retired his pen. Once I knew a family, now they've parted ways. Once I had an idol, now he's let me down. Once I knew a legend, now they've just left town. I don't normally write poetry, but hell... this is a "special" fucking occasion... yeah, right. All I have to say is: SOUNDGARDEN 1984-? This is my humble fucking opinion... my mind, my body, my heart won't accept that it's over. It's not even fathomable in my book. Zero chance, baby... zero chance... "Remember I love you, love you" love, lissa =( ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_And=E9r?= Subject: News... On Fri, 11 Apr 1997 Amass97@aol.com wrote: > This is the best news Ive heard about SG lately. My friend says Mtv and 92.3 > KROCK in NYC said that after this summer and fall they are going to regroup > and record something new so lets just hope THIS is true. I dont know if I > could go another year without new stuff! If they dont Ill have to go on a > search of tons and tons of boots! > > later, > allen > This just came from the Alice in Chains mailinglist. Does anyone know anything about it or is it 100% pure bull? Another email just dropped in saying that Alice in Chains has broken up too. Far from official though... (They have "broken up quite a few times...) /martin. ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: i fell on black days though soundgarden disbanded my heartfist emptyhanded left without any hope of clean sparking days but if anything to learn it's that everything turns and perhaps better on their separate ways ~in tribute to twelve years of soundgarden ~mourning in black sadness chris ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Another official word anytime soon? At 05:47 PM 4/11/97 -0700, Fetal Bliss wrote: >By now... I dunno... What I think we need now is another word from the >band, or its former members as the case may be. The announcement left us >to wonder what happened, and we've gotten scattered clues (mostly about >Ben). Now I think we deserve to know what they're all doing, or plan on >doing, or think's gonna happen. get it through your heads, gang... we "deserve" *NOTHING*. i hope they will choose to share with us when THEY think the time is right. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Dave Subject: 120 minutes etc. Well anyways despite this week's sudden snake, did any one catch 120 minutes last sunday?? They showed a flashback thingy saying that this week in 1989 flower debuted on 120 minutes, they then showed about 20 seconds of footage from teh video. Well maybe you guys have but I have yet to tackle all my e-mail that piled up while my comp was down. MTV really hasnt showed much on the break up, I havent seen the week in rock yet, but what they have been showing hasnt been that great. Hmm maybe if some one would have killed themself. Oh well I guess we can just move on, every band that I truely like anyways is broken up or have a a few dead members. For example Janes addiction, the Clash, etc. One thing that has crossed my mind what will Chris do? Maybe Temple of the Dog revisited?? Probably not, but it does seem like PJ aint doing mutch, a lackluster album and a tour marred with ticket hassels. I guess Matt will do a little Jazz drumming, that he mentioned in the july 96 spin article/short story. Oh well what else can I say that hasnt been said. ---------------------- | | | | | RIP | | SOUNDGARDEN | | 1984-1997 | | | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thats my makeshift headstone. DAVE... ------------------------------ From: #1 Brat Subject: Garden Walking in the garden I've survived the darkest hours now May's on it's way and I can't picture a day when there'll be no more flowers you've changed agony to ecstasy and now back again tell me what will I do without you I thought the it could never end if all the world's a dark night's sky then you're the brightest star and tonight I search for you desperately but I can't see you you're too far today's so cold and the sky is gray and I can't see the sun but in memory and reverie you will still be one ~Lorraine ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: some laughter if you haven't been to the "new and improved" (read: it STILL sucks) iMusic site, let me give you one of the funniest photos i have ever seen of the band: http://imusic.interserv.com/soundgarden/kiss.html caption i see: ben: "i don't wanna be here" matt: "hey, ma, look!" kim: "wow, COOOOOOL!!!" chris: "i'm not so sure about this" LOL ------------------------------ From: Andy Subject: The End of Everything Hey guys, I rarely post but I there is something I need to say. Let me explain my situation. I go to school here at Northwestern, where my life is miserable as hell. And I mean it sucks shit! Soundgarden was the only reason I stayed alive. My friends laugh at me, and make fun of this turn of events. What the fuck is up wiht that? Every afternoon I look forward to going to my room after class, playing Rusty Cage, Pretty Noose, and especially Zero Chance. Chris said in an interview once that he writes of melancholic themes because people can relate to them, and it makes people feel better to have company. Now the only company I give a damn about is dead. As I sit here and read about each of your personal griefs, it saddens me even further to realize that Chris was right on, and now many people have lost an important connection in their life. Cornell is a god, and as much as want to see Cameron an Thayil (and I guess fucking Shephard) behind him, I simply want to hear Cornell's passion again. I didn't listen to alternative when Cobain copped out, and now that I do I often reflect on what it must have felt like. I'm glad I didn't listen to it then, because I love Nirvana and I would've wanted to join him. And now Soundgarden is gone. I'm sorry, that's just too much. It's funny the band wants to thank all of us for our support. They supported me. Do they realize that they don't just entertain with their music, but they inspire and elevate us. They make me improve as a person. Soundgarden is number 1 forever. And my forever ends now. Bye. Andy ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: some laughter That is too funny. If that wasn't a sign of the end, I don't know what was... Geoff Caryn Rose wrote: > > if you haven't been to the "new and improved" (read: it STILL sucks) iMusic > site, let me give you one of the funniest photos i have ever seen of the band: > > http://imusic.interserv.com/soundgarden/kiss.html > > caption i see: > > ben: "i don't wanna be here" > matt: "hey, ma, look!" > kim: "wow, COOOOOOL!!!" > chris: "i'm not so sure about this" > > LOL ------------------------------ From: Andy Subject: Optimism Oh man, I thought a couple days would heal the pain. Not the case. Infact, just the reverse, because I know I couldn't have a nightmare that lasted this long. When Soundgarden died, EVERYTHING I am died too. My life fucking sucks. How the hell am I supposed to think or work when all that goes through my head is "they'll never make another album." And I lie down. My one thread of hope. A read a quote which said "pursue other interests for awhile." I don't know if those last 2 words were thrown in by someone else who can't keep living knowing SG is dead, but I'm hoping it's true. I'll remain optimistic that after some time apart, they're friendship will be stronger. At least 3 of them. Fuck Shephard. So I say, don't worry, give them some time. As for the rest of you, believe me, I know exactly how you feel. I too am sick of hearing people say "Get over it. It's just a band." I know how those of you feel who just had part of them die. Just remain optimistic for the future. SG will be back. Andy "I woke the same as any other day you know I should've stayed in bed (4/9/97)" ------------------------------ From: "Wilson Vanessa Faye" Subject: AIC DEAD? When will it be officially know that Alice in Chains is gonna break up too? I looked it up on the web, and it seems as though it's basically predicted, but who knows.... Mtv news did suck, I have to say- it's just the same old shit that was said on the radio, except for the fact that we were able to see them on a screen instead. We'll be okay!:) laters- alternachic ------------------------------ From: Fetal Bliss Subject: Expected more from MTV? I just saw the Week in Rock segment on MTV, and frankly, it sucked: a base rundown of their carrer: Yippie. But it's no surprise. It seems not enough people understand the significance of this, if not on the fan, but to the music world. Please email MTV for something more, something as simple as an hour of playing just Soundgarden, from "Loud Love" to "Blow Up The Outside World." Or tell them to do more. Just bug 'em. They're pricks. (Hell, blame the disbanding ALL ON MTV!! Cut loose a bit. ^_^;;) Eternal Soundgarden, Scott Goss - -- On your breast I might lay my crowded head... In your mouth I might feel the serpent's kiss... In your eyes I might be your saving grace... I would feed your heart... But in your heart I'd freeze - C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Fetal Bliss Subject: Another official word anytime soon? By now... I dunno... What I think we need now is another word from the band, or its former members as the case may be. The announcement left us to wonder what happened, and we've gotten scattered clues (mostly about Ben). Now I think we deserve to know what they're all doing, or plan on doing, or think's gonna happen. Eternal Soundgarden, Scott Goss - -- On your breast I might lay my crowded head... In your mouth I might feel the serpent's kiss... In your eyes I might be your saving grace... I would feed your heart... But in your heart I'd freeze - C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Rolling Stone must die... Ugh, Everything you read in that online Rolling Stone article is absolute shit. They have nothing more than what the press release contained. This is an example of totally irresponsible journalism at it's very worst. If they can't confirm their sources, their sources are shit. Rolling Stone is shit. Ben did NOT torment the rest of the band members about being in Devilhead, in fact, the only one that knew is Kim. It's not even worth reading unless you feel like getting REALLY pissed off. The "writer's" responsible for that trash had better stay the fuck away from me, no wait, please, come sit down with me and let's have a little chat..... The PISSED List Thug and ANGRY AS HELL SOMMS Sheriff, Aaron ------------------------------ From: "Jamal O. Johnson" Subject: MTV Did anyone else catch the week in rock thingy on the band? As much as I = hate MTV, it wasn't too bad. They devoted a fair amount of time to it, = with some interview clips you may or may not have seen. My fave being = the one back in '89(?) before Chris cut his hair, and Kim, of course, is = downing a beer..... They didn't skimp on the video clips either. Footage was taken from = Flower, Outshined (live), Hands all over, ( I think) Black hole sun, = and a few others that escape my memory at the moment. If you've got = videotape to spare, snag this one, if only for the interview clips.=20 Ummmmm...if memory serves me right, Week in Rock should be back on at = 6:30 Saturday and Sunday.=20 - -J ------------------------------ From: sknauf@ibm.net Subject: as if you needed more crap... oh, I *really* like this one....=20 taken from "the Vibe" homepage: "IS GRUNGE REALLY DEAD? SOUNDGARDEN CALL IT A DAY=85= Multimillion-selling grunge rockers SOUNDGARDEN split up yesterday. The band's record label, A&M released the following brief statement yesterday, "After twelve years, the members of Soundgarden have amicably and mutually decided to disband to pursue other interests. Soundgarden would like to thank all their fans for support throughout the years." Their record company A&M claim the split is amicable, and will enable the Seattle, Washington, group to work on solo projects. The BLACK HOLE SUN stars formed 12 years ago and their five albums have together sold over 20 million copies, earning the group two Grammy Awards in the process. However, their latest offering, DOWN ON THE UPSIDE, released in May of 1996, was considered to be a commercial disappointment despite selling over 3 million copies and it seemed as though constant touring was taking it's toll. Guitarist KIM THAYIL was arrested for assaulting an overzealous fan who wanted his picture last year in North Carolina and bass player BEN SHEPERD had taken to giving the audience the finger and pulling stunts like storming off-stage in mid performance with no explanation to audience, prompting unfavorable live reviews with headlines such as (my favorite) "Soundgarden Blows In Windy City Set." There has been no further comment from the record label on future solo projects, but the Sleaze staff bets are on a (lead singer and guitarist) CHRIS CORNELL solo album surfacing in the not-so-distant future. In the meantime, we bid a fond farewell to a BADMOTHERFINGER-ing bunch of guys. Maybe now everybody will stop moving to Seattle and getting addicted to heroin and start listening to drum 'n bass like they should be=85" sabrina ------------------------------ From: Ali@Worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: regrets Caryn Rose wrote: > > we had this thread a while back, and i had kinda/sorta agreed with the > sentiment... when our intrepid toni cashed in her 401k to fly to seattle > and atlanta... some thought she was slightly nuts (not me ;-)), and then > someone posted about how she missed seeing her very favorite band play and > then the band broke up... and i had *vowed* that after a period of time > where i didn't go see some bands/tours i now regret (i NEVER got to see > nirvana, i was in the middle east, we were going to fly to england to see > them at reading and just didn't; i spent most of 92 trying to get to > europe to see pearl jam and i never got there; i didn't go see the > 'green' tour in london... etc etc etc etc)... > > anyway, i didn't go to chicago despite having TICKETS and everything, > the excuse at the time was that i spent my money flying down to san > francisco to see the bridge benefit concerts, the real reason was that i > was pissed at the sg, and NOW i am of course KICKING myself for not going! > > never, never, never EVER again will i pass up a chance to see a band i > love. they play> > > i just thank the goddess that i got to see the december shows... or i > would be slitting my wrists right now. ;-( > > this is a lesson... i'm trying to take it as a lesson.... > > --caryn GOOD GRIEF!!!! But Caryn, you and I share the same sentiment about Nirvana. I too had the opportunity to see them but my excuse was I had to get up and go to school the next morning and I would be to tired. Boy did I fuck up or what? And I VOWED!!!!!!!!! that the same thing would not happen with Sounggarden and thank god that it didnt. After years of listening to their music and nearly shitty two tons of bricks when someone sold me a Loll92' ticket and I inturn sold it to someone else (same excuse SCHOOL), I finally saw them in 94' I had absouletly no money what so ever but something keep telling me you better go and see them this maybe your only chance (Damn I jump for joy) and nearly getting fired from my job last year to see them on Lolla 96'. It may seem irrelevant to others , but if you feel like crying (and this is for everyone on the list) then do what makes YOU feel better. Unfortunately some people feel that music is the only true friend that they may ever had, and althought people may say that is absolutely ridiculous, it may not be that way for you. Wheter you are obsessed with SG or anyother band or entertainer for that fact, you deal with your pain the best way YOU know how. But we as fans have some clue as to how the members themselves feel about a variety of things, but were not going to know everything. And although some may feel that they owe us an explanation they really owe nothing to noone but themselves. Not even their spouses, girlfriends etc. etc. NO ONE OWES ANYONE ANYTHING!!!!!!!!! NOONE NOT EVEN CHRIS, KIM, MATT, OR BEN!!!!!!!!You may feel that because you support someone when they dont do something you want them to do, they have to explain theirselves.No they dont!!!!!!!!!!! Appreciate what they have given you and if they feel like thats all they had to give or even if it wasnt then what can we say. I just feel sorry for the fans that didnt get to see them, YOU MISSED ONE HELLUVA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm sorry a video will never ever be able to replace it. I've often wondered though how long this would last. It seems like when you have something as good as The big 4 (thats what I called Nirvana, PJ, AIC and SG) that soon or later it would come to a halt. Forbidden........Did we not post that long ago about what they would do should they decide to breakup. To depressing to think about. Although Ben seems to be taking his fair amount of blame here, we cant put the blame on anyone. If your tired your just tired, and for god sakes their only human. And I could be way off base here but, Chris just seems like the type of person who although he may love music and he mayeven be friendly to his fans, he just seems like the type who could really do better to not be around anyone at all, (read the Details article). Could this have possibly been his way of telling us that he was through with it all. And as someone who is also a loner, I truly understand where he is coming from. I know when I saw them in 96' he looked so sad and sullen (standing so close as to see the details on his face), Kim looked like (Not this again), Ben was just pissed off, and Matt seem like he didnt have a care in the world. I just wished that when I was offered the opportunity to meet them that I would have taken it and not assumed that they would be around again in the future. And coming around to what Caryn was saying, DONT EVER TAKE IT FOR GRANTED THAT YOU MAY GET TO SEE SOMEONE, BECAUSE YOU MAYNOT. If someone you want to see comes around by all means see them. Dont let it pass you by and stop living with regret caryn, take heart in knowing that you at least got to see them and for all the SOMMsters may still get to meet them, even if its not as Soundgarden. I often wonder though what really drives Chris to write the songs that he did. Emotions sometimes can get the best of you when you get older and start dealing with things that should have been taken care of when you may have been younger. I dont know but sometimes he seemed so sad. (Is this just my observation? or has anyone else seen this to). Let me stop!!!!!!!! I'll always have a love for SG no matter what. And it does seem like something is missing. All I ask of them is to PLEASE TAKE CARE OF THEIRSELVES. gone for awhile only to return unannounced.............. sorry so long......but I had to say something........I didnt mean to say so much but its kind of hard not to for a void that will never be filled. love and kisses..... ali............. P.S. It a hard lesson to learn sometimes............ ------------------------------ From: Vasant Ramamurthy Subject: so, this is it i don't know what exactly to say, but i'll try. as i type this, i am listening to all of soundgarden's albums in order, sort of as a mourning/tribute. needless to say, this is very shocking. it's just so weird picturing the band together, then realizing it's not this way anymore. i just can't picture them apart, not making music together anymore. i'm only 17, so i've only been through this once before, with nirvana. i think the endings of nirvana and soundgarden are similar, in that they were both so sudden. but i think this breakup hurts me more because i don't think it has a concrete reason, and i will forever be left wondering why. the death of a band member, like in nirvana, is different. they lost an irreplaceable member, and that's it, you don't question why they broke up, it's just over. to add to the hurt, i also feel guilty. i mean, i was perfectly fine at school today, not pissed off or anything, happy as usual. then i read about some of you guys crying and stuff. i feel i should be more upset than i am. it makes me feel like i don't love soundgarden enough. to me, soundgarden is a thing that has brought me much enjoyment. thankfully, i can relive the enjoyment anytime i want. i can't say they've changed my life or anything. but to some of you guys, soundgarden is like a family member or a good friend who has changed your life. and it hurts when they're gone. i think that's why soundgarden is so great: they mean different things to different people. i never got to see soundgarden live. it's a sad story why i wasn't able to (toni, if you're reading this, you know why). but still, i'm lucky to have the 6 great albums and b-sides. i've been on this list since the day it got started, and the experience since then has been unreal. i know we will continue on. it will be tough for a while, but we can get through this. there's no reason why we can't or shouldn't. "candles burning yesterday, somebody's best friend died." yes, our best friend "died" yesterday. vasant ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: Leave Ben alone. :P Andy wrote: (or something very close to this) Oh, please. None of this was Ben's fault - and if it was his, is was just as much everyone else's as well. And please people, even if for some reason you don't like the guy, at least have enough respect to glance at the sleeve inside of the album and spell his name right. I've seen lots of people who were mad at him doing it lately, and I'm trying to wonder if they're doing it on purpose or what. B(enlover) ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: Re: some laughter Kim looks like he was diggin' it the most! Thanks Caryn! I was once a flaming youth too. Caryn Rose wrote: > > let me give you one of the funniest photos i have ever seen of the > band: > > http://imusic.interserv.com/soundgarden/kiss.html > > caption i see: > > ben: "i don't wanna be here" > matt: "hey, ma, look!" > kim: "wow, COOOOOOL!!!" > chris: "i'm not so sure about this" > > LOL - -- gene ------------------------------ From: janet adams Subject: I just want to thank Soundgarden for inspiring me to pick up a guitar in the first place and do something that I never thought was possible. Create music. I never got to see you live but the image is in my head and it's awesome. Thanks for the songs like Blow Up the Outside World, Fell On Black Days and Tighter and Tighter that I play when times are tough. Thanks for the songs like Hunted Down, My Wave and Pretty Noose that always pump me up and make me smile. Your music brings out so many different emotions in me. Tears, laughter, joy and sadness. That's what made your music mean so much to me. Thank you. WES ADAMS ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: [Fwd: MELVINS (soundgarden)] From the Melvins list. - -- gene - --------------71F2351CF1B614038AACAB5D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from listmail.aol.com (listmail.aol.com [152.163.200.7]) by pe.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12354 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 19:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM by listmail.aol.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id 1B3D58A0 ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:31:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM by LISTSERV.AOL.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8c) with spool id 1789649 for MELVINS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:33:12 -0400 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mail.aol.com [152.163.125.22]) by listserv.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-3.0.0) with ESMTP id VAA00779 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA23562 for MELVINS-L@listserv.aol.com; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970411214002_250301686@emout07.mail.aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:40:03 -0400 Reply-To: Melvins Info/Discussion List Sender: Melvins Info/Discussion List From: Graham Stingley Subject: MELVINS (soundgarden) To: MELVINS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Posted to the MELVINS-L Information/Discussion List: that whole soundgarden thing really sucks huh? soundgarden kicked ass For information regarding subscription options, visit MELVINS LAND at http://melvins.home.ml.org - --------------71F2351CF1B614038AACAB5D-- ------------------------------ From: TracyN0603@aol.com Subject: What can I say? What can I add to what has already been said? I'm disappointed, but I know I will continue to support them all in anything they decide to do. I'm really glad I can turn to this list and read posts from others who feel the way I do. I could not concentrate at work for the past two days (gee, I wonder why) so I decided to wade through my email and play around on the Internet. I was visiting all of my Soundgarden-related bookmarks and stumbled onto the Tilt page with the Kozik posters that Caryn posted a while ago. I'm not sure if this has been posted, but there was a new Frank Kozik Soundgarden poster (at least I didn't see it when I ordered the other one). The address is: http://tiltpix.com/tilt/dist/kozik/sound2.html Tracy ------------------------------ From: Dan Murphy Subject: zero chance of ever turning this around well sommsters...pondering the future of the band's members, and i cannot help but think of the breakup of another amazing band about 12 years ago. of the Police, who made it big? of course it was sting, even if he was a marginal bass player at best tho a great lyricist. andy summers and copeland were really talented musicians but never went anywhere commercially, if that's how we want to judge them. copeland, like cameron, was a first rate drummer, easily one of the best ever. so i am thinking that chris is going to be the only one to "go anywhere" in a commercial sense. but he's only got so many "seasons" in him. i am pretty worried. i see ben going on with devilhead and doing okay locally and hater doing okay for a while. but what of the last of the longhairs? where will kim go, what will he do? i dunno, this seemed like one of the greatest, most cohesive and tightly knit groups ever. what now? worried in jet city, dan - -- ***************************************************************************** "The Universe is a big place, perhaps the biggest." - Kilgore Trout danno@wood.net/levitan@u.washington.edu 206-749-6136 ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: #somms The gathering is happening. - -- gene ------------------------------ From: Japner@aol.com Subject: Lost in the Past Look at this another big event in my life to remind me that I'm getting old. Hmm now looking back how long ago was Nirvana. I feel like I'm wasting my life. Two years from now I'll be sitting here going whoa Soundgarden broke up years ago. It won't matter to anybody cause it will have been two years ago, but It'll still rip me up inside. I can't let go of the past. I don't want to get old, but things like this are making me relise that these years are almost over. I know I'm only 16 but soon I'll be in college then be on my own. I can't go partying out with my friend like I do now. Or even goof off in school. I'll have to do everything for myself trying to live up to some stereotypes. ~~~Step ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 88] ***************************************