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                                It's over...
                            Soundgarden 1985-1997
                   whatsoever i've feared has come to life
                                   #somms
                       Thank you... but it's not over
                                     =(
                         one more thought..........
            No, this isn't happpening. No, this isn't happeneing
                            Another horrible day
                            what more can i say?
                              AiC/SG Final Tour
                                Re: Pull thru
                                rolling stone
                                  Pull thru
             SOUNDGARDEN TRIBUTE BAND (SUPERUNKNOWN-From Canada)
                           south florida sommsters
                Please Read these and make me feel better. :)
                        too numb to think of a title
                               Re: fugue state
                              Re: rolling stone
                                   Flower
                              more online stuff
                         Re: Soundgarden's diffusion
                                   the end
                               My Heart Weeps
                                 What else?
                           after some thought....
                 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 7 Apr 1997
                        Off the current bad subject..
                        Sommsters of New York City...

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Subject: It's over...
From: "Shawn David Kennedy" <kenned79@pilot.msu.edu>

Since the age of 13, Soundgarden has been a huge part of my life.  One of the
truly constant things, you know?  I am 20 now, and it's over.  I did not think
it would end now, with the guys being so young still.  I guess it is just time.
I am just thankful for all the great music and memories.  From the very first
song I ever heard from them (Hands all Over) to the very last I will hear (Boot
Camp), it has been great. I will always be greatful that I have their records
and have had the priveledge of seeing them live.   Thank you, Soundgarden, for
all the good times.

                                -Shawn Kennedy

P.S.  I wish all the guys luck in their future pursuits



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Subject: Soundgarden 1985-1997
From: valhalla7@juno.com (Jonathan W Parsons)

Hey List,
	I've been hiding in the corner reading the digest for a little
over a year. I've been reading all the posts from yesterday, and it makes
me feel sorry for most of the people writing. People are screaming that
they can't go on. People are screaming that "we can't give up on
Soundgarden even if they gave up on themselves." Don't get me wrong...I
love Soundgarden. They have significantly effected my life. But
guys...listen up, this isn't the end of the world. It's not the end of
mine or yours. It's especially not the end of Chris, Kim, Ben, or Matt's.
And, no, they didn't give up on themselves or each other or their fans.
They are still friends; they are just pursuing their other interests.
People were screaming about getting together a mob and doing something.
It is very selfish of us to want to try to make them stay together. And I
firmly stand by Caryn in saying that if they stayed together while not
wanting to be together it wouldn't be Soundgarden. It would be product
for the music industry. I for one will always keep the music in my heart
and alive on my stereo. And this list will have many more wonderful
discussions about the guys we all know and love. Soundgarden isn't dead.
Soundgarden isn't just music. A great man once said, "Soundgarden is a
state of mind" [Chris Cornell, Motorvision...very good video]. And just
because the guys are not currently playing their beautiful music
together, it doesn't mean that Soundgarden is dead. Soundgarden is very
much alive...and will remain that way.

OK, I'll sit back down now,
Jonathan Parsons

"On the road that I have taken,
one day, walking, I awaken,
amazed to see where I have come,
where I'm going, where I'm from."
- --The Book of Counted Sorrows

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From: CL Miller <clmiller@usachoice.net>
Subject: whatsoever i've feared has come to life

us not understanding is human nature

them not caring is inhuman nature

tell those who don't understand our pain to go to hell

chris

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From: gene <sunishun@pe.net>
Subject: #somms

Hi all.

For all who need an IRC program, point your web browswer to
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/6000/get.html
and download mIRC 5.0. It's free to try.
- --
gene <sunishun@pe.net>


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From: Fetal Bliss <Spoonman@www.megahits.com>
Subject: Thank you... but it's not over

Well...
I found out yesterday afternoon. I experienced pretty much what all of
us had... shock, denial, etc... And I'd like to thank everyone for
feeling as I do.
So it's true about Ben. A shame HIS PERSONALITY got in the way of being
an amazing bassist and an additional songwriter. And it's too late now,
but I don't think an "official" split was neccessary. And I think (well,
mostly hope, but it's quite possible) all that nees be done is a hiatus,
Chris doing some solo work, Kim on Pigeonhed, Matt and... him... on
Hater, whatever... THEN they continue the whole of Soundgarden at their
leisure.
And yes, there is a lot to say, and I'll regret not posting further once
I think of the words, but, as true Soundgarden fans, I think we know...
yeah...
One day at a time, we'll learn more, we'll deal with it.
Scott Goss
- -- 
On your breast I might lay my crowded head...
In your mouth I might feel the serpent's kiss...
In your eyes I might be your saving grace...
I would feed your heart... But in your heart I'd freeze
					- C. Cornell


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From: Alba <al589314@campus.cegs.itesm.mx>
Subject: =(

OK. I told myself I was not going to do this, but I can't help it... I'm
going to join all of you people crying for SG.... Can't believe it
happened... I always thought that they would be the last ones to disband...
and even when I think that the albums are there, I know is not going to be
the same... Fuck! I want to cry right now... but I know I mustn't... I'm
sure they never wanted all of us to cry... or at least I want to think
that... It feel better to write to all of you and to know that I'm not alone... 
Thank for listening... 

                                                                  Alba
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*********************
Es imposible que seamos capaces de amar presisamente por que deseamos ser
amados, por que queremos que el otro nos de algo (amor), en lugar de
aproximarnos a el sin exigencias y querer solo su mera presencia.
(It's imposible for us to love, presisely because we want to be loved,
because we want the other to gives us something (love), instead of getting
close to him without asking for something and want only him presence).

                                                         ---Milan Kundera
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**********************


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From: SndGrdn45@aol.com
Subject:  one more thought..........


- ---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj:    one more thought..........
Date:    97-04-09 19:44:07 EDT
From:    SndGrdn45
To:      SOMMS@mit.edu

Yes, I still fell sick about this breakup.  I just wanted to thatnk everyone
on this wonderful list for letting me know more about the band and it's
music.  Thank you for all this infromation that at one time I might've not
know.  Thank you for teaching me.  I'd especially like to thank Shroomy for
the pictues, and Seth for the website, and all his knowledge of this amazing
group of people.  You're a good man Seth.  This sounds like I'm not gonna be
on SOMMS anymore, but I cant leave!!  Soundgarden will always be the best
band (they're more than a band.  I don't know what they are. Geniuses.)
 They'll always be in our hearts.  We'll always going to love them and listen
to them forever, right?  Besides, there's no way that my shrine is gonna get
moved or put away.  But I still haven't heard about it on the radio (92.3
KROCK)  Kurt Loder said it was official from A&M.  Well,  I have to go cry
again now.


- -antonia

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From: SndGrdn45@aol.com
Subject:  No, this isn't happpening. No, this isn't happeneing


- ---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj:    No, this isn't happpening. No, this isn't happeneing
Date:    97-04-09 19:18:49 EDT
From:    SndGrdn45
To:      SOMMS@mit.edu

No.  My life is over.  How could the greatest band ever break up?  I just
heard in MTV news.  When my friend called me and told me, I just broke down.
 I'm still breaking down.  I'm still crying hysterically, asking why this
happened.  Even though I have a good idea why, but my life is Soundgarden.  I
have not seen them yet (b/c they sell out in a matter of seconds, and the
club sent me the special phone number too late.)  I feel so sick  and I have
that horrible feeling in my stomach.  I cannot believe that they broke up
after all these years, all the amazing music.  I cant describe this feeling
of emptyness in words.  A piece of my life is gone.  All that time that I
spent listening, watching, or doing whatever with this band seems like it's
been taken away.  I cannot believe that I can never see Soundgaden play
together ever again in my whole life.  I've been waiting till they came
around, started recording.  Just being able to see this remarkable group with
my very own naked eye.  To see Chris sing, to see Kim, Ben, and Matt.  But I
can't, which will leave me depressed for the rest of my already shitty life,
which will be even worse now.  I don't want or feel like  talking  to  my
parents, friends, or people around me because this feeling is unbearable.  A
big chunk  of my heart and life is, or was SG.  But they'll always be amazing
to me.  I was just listening to BMF this afternoon, then this happens.  My
last time of listening to Soundgarden not knowing that they were broken up.
 Well, I have to go lie down or something.  I think I'm going to be sick.

- -antonia

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From: SndGrdn45@aol.com
Subject: Another horrible day

My life sucks.  everything sicks.  First, the 8th was the 3 year anneversay
of KC's death.  Then on the 9th, the breakup.  I still can't get it thorough
my head.  Yeah, I can say they broke up.  But when you really think about it,
the thought and fact just fuckin rips out your heart, throws it on the floor,
and stomps on it, over and over and over again.  Forever.  all day yesterday
after I heard the news, I was absolutely hysterical.  I would not stop
crying, and when I did, it would start again.  I was screaming and crying and
throwing things.  Today my throat hurt like a bitch, I couldn't talk.  When
my mother got home last night, I told her and cried hysterically again.  She
comforted me and it sort of helped.  But she kept on saying,"It's ok.
 They'll get back together.  All of the other bands do it, so they will."
 How does she know?  Well, I don't either.  I was up till 2:30 this morning
writing.  Writing my feelings, and my poems about this tragedy.  I listened
to DOTU, but I had to stop it.  What am I listening to?  The sounds are
there, but it's too hard for me to accept the fact that the 4 men who made
this amazing music no longer exsist as a group.  Theyr'e gone.  There's no
more Soundgarden.  It's nothingness.  I will still always love the band, but
for the rest of my life I can never be toatally happy. Never.  
              Today I was so sick.  I couldn't talk because my thrat hurt too
much.  My eyes were extremely puffy, I had a runny and stuffy nose at the
same time, and I almost puked 3 times.   In the middle of my Science exam, I
almost ran out of the room to puke.  This is all because of the breakup, and
It's only one of the few ways that this has affected me.  When I heard the
news yesterday, I was nauseus.  I couldn't take it.  Soundgarden physically,
mentally, and spiritually affaects us all.  And then when some of the
assholes found out that I was depressed and didn't say more than 6 words the
whole day because of the breakup, they made fun of me.  MADE FUN OF ME?   I
coludn't believe how immature these 2 people were, but they just don't
understand.  They never will understand how this is affecting me for the rest
of my life.  April 9, 1997 was the absolute worst day of my whole entire life
so far.  Then one of my teachers found out.  He sort of knew how important
this band was to me, and he told my to relax, and that they have to get back
together because they make too much money.  MONEY?  I couldn't believe it.  I
couldn't give 2 flying shits about money, and I'm  sure SG's career isn't
about money, and drastic changes like this wouldn't be only about money. An
dwhat also sux, is that I don't know one single person in my life (except for
all of you wonderful people who feel about the band as I do) that loves SG
with a passion like me and all of you.  Who loves these men and their music
from the bottom of our hearts.  Who is a die hard SG fan. I have to get out
of here.
        I have to go get a tissue now.

- -antonia 

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From: "Matt Cameron" <stimpy1@netvision.net.il>
Subject: what more can i say?

12 years of greatness 12 years of amazingness 12 years of "rockness" 
i think we sad it all theres nothing more to say exept that it`s over and
it`s the end and i know that if we could have done something we would have
done it yestuday but as you see we didnt do anything wich means there was
nothing we could have done.
so now after concluding the last 2 days i think it`s time to say goodbye or
maybe c`ya later because now "Soundgarden" is just a word to discribe what
was the greatest band in the world so i wish you the begining of a new and
Soundgardenless life wich i think will be a very hard time so pull yourself
together and let soundgarden be with you all the way!
"Goodbye Soundgarden"!
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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BEWARE: You have just been e-mail from Matt Cameron
You may Replay this mail to:stimpy1@netvision.net.il
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From: RustyWave6@aol.com
Subject: AiC/SG Final Tour

i know these past few days have been really bad, but if this ever
materializes, this would be good news.  about  a week ago, i think it was lou
brutus on rock103.5 that said although Alice in Chains weren't going to
produce any more albums, they are considering a final tour before they ended
completely.  now after the disbandment of soundgarden, do you think there's a
possibility that they could tour together for one last time before leaving
altogether?  please tell me what you think.

kevin

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From: alisa brozena <lee@frontier.wilpaterson.edu>
Subject: Re: Pull thru

Well, I will try not to make this post long.  I just am crushed that
the band that inspired me to go out there and do what i truely love,
writing and singing, has "died."  I got the strength in myself and
through them to make a career out of singing and writing and now they no
longer exisit. I can't believe it!  This won't make me stop what I am 
doing.
Actually, the anger makes me want to go and do even even, even better.  I
am writing  a song about "The Day the Garden Died."  If anyone is
interested in hearing it please email me and I will email ya a copy.
Otherwise, thanks to all of you and to Seth for everything these couple of
years. .
lee

*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*

Heal my wound without a trace and seal my tomb without my face,
I'm going to the only place...
                                                           -C. Cornell

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From: SndGrdn45@aol.com
Subject: rolling stone

There's an article in RSOnline about this whole breakup thing, if anyone
wants to read it.
        I need a new box of tissues,

- -antonia

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From: u1002740@host.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Mlinscek)
Subject: Pull thru

        I didn't post yesterday because I was too depressed.  I stared at
that opening for Seth's page for 16 minutes contemplating what was
happening. I just wanted to say thanks to SOUNDGARDEN for all the years of
joy they brang me.  I hope EVERYONE pulls thru and gets by this tradegy.
Everyone please take care, we still have there 12 years of magic for us to
listen to for the rest of our lives.

I sure don't mind a change....
        ----Fell On Black Days----

                 Sean



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From: glenn king <688120@ican.net>
Subject: SOUNDGARDEN TRIBUTE BAND (SUPERUNKNOWN-From Canada) 


  Superunknown has been working in Canada as a tribute for about 6
  months now? Now what do we do?  We want your input on this/ What do
  all of you think? Please help us make up our minds to continue or not?
   How about helping us design a killer SG set give me 12 tunes that you
  all want to see a Soundgarden tribute do?  Mail me please!  Love
  SUPERUNKNOWN    CANADA




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From: "Lori S. Bingel" <Lori.S.Bingel@students.Miami.EDU>
Subject: south florida sommsters

In light of SG's breakup south florida's 94.9 ZETA is hosting a 
Soundgarden Tribute Weekend this weekend, any of you guys who happen to 
me from Miami like me (or Lauderdale, Boca, or any other place where you 
can tune into Zeta), should tune in this weekend to see what they spin.

I'm sitting home tonight listening to all of my SG in chronological order 
and drinking many beers in my own tribute to Kim - the MAN.

Just thought I'd let y'all know....

~Lori

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From: cornell <melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net>
Subject: Please Read these and make me feel better. :)

Hey guys...I am in day two of coping with SG, and have put something
up that you guys will hopefully relate to.  Please just take 5 minutes
to check out the stuff I put up, and drop me a line if it pleases
you.  To get there goto either:

http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2/boots/back.htm

or

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/4334/

or

http://members.tripod.com/~aenema

If you go to the Tripod or Geocities site, click the Lassen ad on
the right to access the main page....have fun.  Long live SG.

Gregg
- -- 
       
                     d  i  s  i  l  l  u  s  i  o  n
                    http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2

                      "bring it down and under-in"

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From: eliza <epolly@one.net>
Subject: too numb to think of a title

as horribly morbid as this is, i have spent a great deal of time today
thinking about the difference between this and a death...

many of us have said that we feel like someone has died....and last night
in IRC we held a very long and intense wake for Soundgarden.....

i haven't come up with much, except one main thing keeps crossing my
mind...when  someone you love dies, your heart is broken from the deep
personal love you felt for someone......with this, i feel more like my
soul is broken.....

there is a slight but significant difference in the feeling, and i bet a
bunch of you can understand...

lost without my focus,
eliza


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From: Andrea <andrea@avantasoft.com>
Subject: Re: fugue state

Hi Susan,

I too have been reading through all the SOMMS posts finding comfort in
the fact that I'm not alone and that at least there are some people on
this planet who share my utter sorrow at the loss of what I consider to
be a great friend. Your post was, literally, almost word for word how I
felt and reacted.

My emotion also went through a strange "phases of grief" kind of
rollercoaster yesterday (and still are today). I also experienced anger
as I listened to the radio on my way home from work, waiting to hear
ANYTHING by Soundgarden (left my tapes at home yesterday, DAMN!) and got
an earful of Dishwalla and Hootie and The Eagles and on and on but
NOTHING by SG. Not even a mention. I then forced myself to watch MTV,
hoping that one of the positive results of the breakup might be a video
marathon (too much to hope for, I know) and I get Singled Out and
Madonna's new song for the rainforest on the news. Whatever.

I piled all my CD's, tapes, videos, magazines and books together and
watched, listened and read until a fell asleep on top of the Motorvision
video box. I just wanted to soak them up and make them a part of me
forever. I know that sounds so dramatic but I just didn't want to let
them go. I thought about some of the posts I read and I felt a pit in my
stomach. I wanted to talk to someone who cared about this like I did
(drats! no e-mail account at home!).

I screamed along to the entire second half of Superunknown on the way to
work this morning and felt better, even though I was crying. I look
forward to anything that the guys want to give us in the future and have
no anger toward them--just thankfulness, for sharing their talents with
us for as long as they did. And for touching the lives (and some cases,
changing the lives) of so many people. I always thought Soundgarden was
going to be a band that stood the test of time, and I believe the music
they left us with will. I just really wish their desire to make it
together would have as well. 

Andrea

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From: eliza <epolly@one.net>
Subject: Re: rolling stone

does anyone else find the picture on this article very telling and
intense?   if you print it, you will really see what i mean...

matt looks pissed (not uncommon for his poses), but kim looks really tired
and unhappy - it is in his eyes....and most interesting, Ben is looking
away...he hardly looks part of the band...looks like he would kill to be
anywhere else...

i know it is only a pic, but it just really hit me...

eliza
- --when the whole thing comes crashing down, don't ask me why



On Thu, 10 Apr 1997 SndGrdn45@aol.com wrote:

> There's an article in RSOnline about this whole breakup thing, if anyone
> wants to read it.
>         I need a new box of tissues,
> 
> -antonia
> 


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From: Candy <haun@ionet.net>
Subject: Flower

Every time I sit down to type something to post, my mind goes blank.=20
What can I say that hasn=92t already been said?  Nothing, really.  But
then today when I downloaded my email and sat there staring at the long
list of messages, I saw in my mind=92s eye (as melodramatic as this may
sound) a line of people slowing filing by, each one placing a flower on
a grave.  I realized that even if no one reads this, it is a symbolic
gesture that I feel I must make.  Thank God, that a person hasn=92t died,
but something has died.  We can all feel it.  I wonder how they
feel--Kim, Chris, Matt and Ben.  Do they feel as sad as we do or had it
gotten so bad that they are relieved or, God forbid, actually glad?=20
Probably they feel a mixture of many emotions.  So here=92s my flower, an=
d
along with all my fellow sommsters, I thank the band for the joy and
solace that their music has brought me through the years.=20

Candy

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From: Caryn Rose <clr@nwlink.com>
Subject: more online stuff


kisw, local seattle rock station (the other listenable station is KNDD,
known locally as "the end") has a decent page (and a great web site, even
if it is U-G-L-Y) with a nice pic (very nice) at :
http://www.kisw.com/kiswmusic_soundgarden.html

if they  had linked to seth's page, things would have been wonderful.

- --c.


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From: epowerb@ALPHA2.CURTIN.EDU.AU
Subject: Re: Soundgarden's diffusion

While it is a great shame that such an influential and wonderful band 
have disbanded, there must be a silver lining somewhere. Soundgarden had 
so much music to give us, and somuch to teach, because they were four 
talented artists who were together in the one band. We can only hope that 
if any of them form new bands, they will bring that light of 
understanding to that band, and they can teach us anew. Soundgarden has 
not died, for it lives in whoever can keep it alive. We will not forget.
They gave us everything they owned. All good things must come to an end.

this bodes strange eruptions to our state...

It is a sad day, but the past has been great, and the future can still be 
bright.

brad.

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From: "CALUM HAMILTON" <calum@BBF_COMPONENTS.BBF.COM.AU>
Subject: the  end

I just want to say why didn't they play there last gig in 
Seattle,instead of Honolulu.It doesn't make sense!!!!!!.
*****************
CALUM HAMILTON

*****************
<< EAT THE FRUIT AND KISS THE SNAKE GOODNIGHT>>

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From: Kathie and David <oponfam@cnsnet.com>
Subject: My Heart Weeps

This is so damned hard! Last night it all seemed so easy (shock I
guess). I felt numb and kept saying, well at least nobody died, and I
didn't feel too bad. Throughout today, though, my functioning has just
kept deteriorating. I can barely think of anything else. And I feel
stupid for the intensity of these feelings. I have a beautiful family
and its true, all four of our guys are still alive and kicking. I'm a
grown woman for christ's sake, but the pain washes over me in waves -
and I haven't even been able to cry yet because of the kids (Hey, what
did you do to mom? Nothing! You didn't hit her over the head with that
"Ten Ton Tonka" again did you?) They get too freaked out. But now I
fight the tears. Why? I'm afraid if they start they won't stop. and Why?
They aren't dead, they'll probably each still record. But it won't be
the glory that was Soundgarden. The only band in almost a decade to
prick through the fog of shitty music that has innundated us for as
long. My favorite. I thought they would last for so much longer. And the
whole thing was like a huge punch in the stomach after all the "No the
rumors of troubles in the band are being blown out of proportion". I am
furious that we were lied to. How cruel to leave us so trustingly open
to this pain.

My wonderful husband, knowing how this would affect me, surprised me
with two more import singles last night, and you know what, I couldn't
even listen to them. In fact the only reason I listened to them this
morning was so I wouldn't hurt his feelings. I have to set aside a
special time, all alone, where I can listen to the music, because I know
that that is when I will spill forth all my grief and cry and cry and
cry. But I'm like Chris - I like to hold on to my pain - and I'm not
ready to let go yet. 

I thank God that I fell in love with Soundgarden the first time I saw
them, so I've had over 7 years of joy from them. I'm thankful that I've
seen them in concert many times, and I thank the Soundgarden Gods for
getting to meet them in Chicago, as well as spend time with some of you
wonderful sommsters. God it feels good to write. I could go on and on.
Better move on to private email now. Take care everyone.

Oh, and Seth, thank you so much for thinking of us poor digesters.
Having all these extra digests is so helpful. Thank you, thank you ,
thank you. I feel much more a part of things than I expected to.

Kathie

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From: Heather Aston <aston@eden.rutgers.edu>
Subject: What else?

It seems like someone has died. You know how you get really bad news and you
just can't accept that it's true? That is what this is like. I feel like a
friend has died. The finality is what seems worse. When someone dies, knowing
that I can never, ever see them again, that is what is worst. That is what
this seems like. And I never even got to see them, not even once. I had a
ticket to one of the New York City shows this past winter. It would have been
my *first* SG concert. And it was cancelled. I held out hope they would
reschedule, then hear there would be no more shows after Hawaii. Fine, I
said. I can wait until next year, or later. But now...I'll never get to see
SG in concert. Never. *Why*? Does anyone know why?

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From: Caryn Rose <clr@nwlink.com>
Subject: after some thought....

i've been thinking about a lot of things, stuff we have all been talking
about... 

o i don't think they lied.  i know lots of us do, and it's completely
understandable.  but i don't think they did.  i think that they were telling
us the truth as they believed it at the time.

o i think we will hear about it.  not now, not soon, but eventually i would
hope that there will be an interview where they talk to us.  now is not the
right time.    not that they owe us an explanation, but i think they will
want to talk to us.  someday.

o i don't think it had anything to do with ben.  i think, rather, that ben's
temper flares recently were a *symptom*, not the cause of the situation.  i
just think they were *unhappy* and just didn't know it.  sometimes you don't
know until you sit down to t hink about it.  sometimes you avoid thinking
about it because you know you're unhappy, because it's just too big and too
scary and too huge to deal with.  

what do i think happened?  i think they were in the studiom, or about to go
into the studio, and i think they suddenly realized that they maybe didn't
have anything to say any more as *soundgarden*.  that they still have a lot
of music in them, but perhaps that this entity had come to an end.  i know
we disagree with that, and can give compelling testimony to the opposite.
but it's like a job, where one day  you walk in and you just want to throw up.  

chris mansfield said last night that his impression is that chris just was
not happy over this past year.  the drinking, the weight loss.. the man was
*not* happy on stage.  and as much as this hurts me, and hurts us all, i
*know* that none of us want chris, or kim, or ben, or matt, to not be happy.
(happy for chris, that is.  happiness is relative ;->)   even if it meant
soundgarden coming to an end.

i admire t hem for calling it quits.  a lesser band would have gone on.
(lesser bands *have* gone on even when they no longer have anything relevant
or interesting to say, as many of us have pointed out.)  but this is not a
lesser band, this is *soundgarden* we're talking about.  

and yes, this is like someone has died.  because for each of us, a little
bit of us has died right now.  a part of our lives is over.  for some of us,
a VERY significant part of our lives is over.  and there's no way that it's
not going to cause us deep pain.

do i think that the band knows this?  yes, i do.  and i think that the band
is also hurting right now.  this is hardly a decision they came to lightly.
i am most sure they knew what pain this would cause us.  but there was
nothing they could do about that.  

i read a post in another forum last night that described a phone call
someone made to susan silver yesterday.  susan was crying, but confirmed
that it was completely amicable.  there is no hidden tale here.  it would
almost be easier for some of us if the band were fighting, or if there was a
tangible "reason".  but there isn't.

this will take some time to come to grips with.  at least we have this
forum, and each other, despite everything we've been through.  i'm grateful,
i'm sure we're all grateful.  and most of all, at the end of it, i am still
eternally grateful to soundgarden for letting me, and us, be a part of the
magic that they created.

- --caryn


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From: RAINYDAY13@aol.com
Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 7 Apr 1997

hey everyone. In response to the entry on 665 backwards, I'm the SOMEONE that
mentioned this to the list sometime last year, maybe even in late '95. A
couple of people on the list thought it was funny and noone mentioned it
anymore. I saw the clip on the homepage of 665 in reverse, but I didn't know
people were actually claiming they were the first to do it. They took the
idea from me. I guess this really doesn't matter now that SG is history. At
least, let the truth be known about whose idea this was.       


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From: Stephen Frantz <Stephen.Frantz@jcu.edu.au>
Subject: Off the current bad subject..


I'm chasing any sort of soundgarden stuff on video from 1995 onwards,
whether it be interviews, guest appearances or whatever.  Also if anyone
has a bootleg copy of any of the shows on video from the last tour.
This would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks everyone.


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From: Awesmeyes@aol.com
Subject: Sommsters of New York City...

Hey Everyone, 

       I was wondering if any of the New York City-area sommsters wanted to
get together this weekend.(or soon)  It might be good to congregate with
fellow fanatics and indulge in commiseration and heavy drinking.  A lot of us
got together before the Roseland shows, perhaps we can share both the high
and the low times??  I know there are alot of us out there....lurking....

There must be something else, there must be something good......far away,

Heather
(a.k.a. "The Heater")

P.S.  92.3  will be running a "Look back on SOUNDGARDEN'S career" Sunday
night at midnight.  Is it really over??  

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