From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 9 Apr 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 02:31:52 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 9 Apr 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: ...my personnal stupid question... and crying long upon the loss... Re: and crying long upon the loss... ANSWER TO RITA ABOUT THAT CANADIAN BORDER STUFF... No drinks, no Booze Re: SV: No drinks, no Booze SV: No drinks, no Booze This favourit song thing... 120 mins and aussies, pls read. Re: SV: No drinks, no Booze Re: Sermon on Pop Music Re: Ben Shepherd watch Re: SV: No drinks, no Booze The Top Ten Ben Shepherd watch from television shepherds with living room sheep... Vinyl, Road Rash, and Girl U Want Re: SV: No drinks, no Booze edmonton,ab ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Nicolas" Subject: ...my personnal stupid question... Hi everybody, We can notice that there's on average one stupid question asked by a stupid person every day in this list...so let me be that person today...and like I'm not an average guy, I won't ask 1 stupid question, but 2. -First, When is the next soundgarden masterpiece be recorded -and will they ever do an M tv unplugged or something like that ? I'm sorry to ask such boring questions but I really need to know and I'll be on hunger strike* till I don't have an answer. I hope that I haven't done too many mistakes...I'm french. Here is my personal E-mail adress : Spoonman@worldnet.fr Bye... Nicolas. ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: and crying long upon the loss... On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Rita wrote: first off, I saw a little band called tool last night. not a bad outfit, really. maybe they could be "the next big thing", eh? > bad expierence at the canadian-us border? he is always full of border cop > smart ass remarks...like the one he yelled out in toronto last november in > concert, something about hiding a 22" color tv in his asshole, hey he said > it, not me!! this reminds me: I wonder if there is some underlying tension/anger/resentment when chris sings "korea or canada or maybe taiwan..." during 'wooden jesus'? I know that to many here in australia products originating in some asian countries are frowned upon (quality, means of production, etc.), but are things the same in north america? I don't want to start up any sort of regional debate here on the list (not that this little post could do that), but I think there is some sort of story behind it. ---------------------------------------------- welcome to the cruel world, hope you find your way it's a cruel world, try to enjoy your stay words by ben harper ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Rita Subject: Re: and crying long upon the loss... > > this reminds me: I wonder if there is some underlying > tension/anger/resentment when chris sings "korea or canada or maybe > taiwan..." during 'wooden jesus'? I know that to many here in australia > products originating in some asian countries are frowned upon (quality, > means of production, etc.), but are things the same in north america? I > don't want to start up any sort of regional debate here on the list (not > that this little post could do that), but I think there is some sort of > story behind it. HEY HEY HEY!! hold on, don't want a regional war either! ;) but in a magazine article (kerrang i think?) on seth's page, they ask chris, if you could live anywhere else besides seattle, where would it be and HE SAID that he had seriously thought of moving to canada because and i quote "its so big and there's almost nobody there, and that really appeals to me". off colored remark yes, (i mean *come on*, toronto has a bigger population than seattle!).. slightly sarcastic, just maybe. a little insulting, perhaps....but he *did* say it!! and he did say "seriously" and and and...damn it! just let me bask in the patriotic glow of this one ok? ;) lets see, today i first quoted a tv segment i saw once and don't have on tape, and now i am quoting from an article that i also saw once and don't even own...strange how all things soundgarden stick to my brain..now only if this technique can work for my exam next week. <<<<>>>>> today's the 8th and they found him :-( (couldn't resist) **please note, this was not meant to offend anyone, i typed it all half jokingly...i know i didn't need this little disclaimer, but sometimes...** ------------------------------ From: "McMahon Potvin" Subject: ANSWER TO RITA ABOUT THAT CANADIAN BORDER STUFF... hey..... About Chris doin' remarks on the US-Canadian border.... I read somewhere that when Chris and his buddies where teens, they would constantly cross the border to take full advantage of British-Columbias' lower legal drinkin' age.... Of course, customs being what they are, it's highly probable they had some misadventures... Marc (... i'm together with your plan...) ------------------------------ From: ooyesiku@brynmawr.edu (Olukemi Oyesiku) Subject: No drinks, no Booze A while back someone wrote that Chris' should not stop drinking and smoking. HELLO!! Have you not seen TOMBSTONE? Remember when the doctor asked Doc Holiday to quit smokin, drinking to stay alive for a few more years before TB takes his life, he in fact did not!! He dies at the end. Yes this is a movie and probably not a true story, however the same rules apply. If Chris quits smokin' and drinking, even just for a little while, I am sure his voice will improve. I so fucking tired of all these lead singers fucking up their careers because of liquid, smoke, or in some cases powder. It is so fucking not worth it!! Examples: Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Shannon Hoon, "Doc Holiday", etc. Yeah, someone is bound to respond that it is ONLY booze or it is ONLY cigarrettes, but those can KILL what is most important to him, his voice!!! They may also lead to more serious illnesses. Frankly, I would rather have him not sing at all for a while and take a temporary leave from the band for a year or so in order for him to come back with SG with even better (if at all possible) songs!! So many bands fuck up because their lead singers were to fucking stupid: Guns and Roses, Van Halen (although they are back but not as good as they were), Ugly Kid Joe (where the fuck are they?) and so on!! Chris Cornell and Soundgarden kick some serious ass and I would hate to seem them fuck up now since they are doing so well. I respect Chris' too much to condone (as if it were up to me) drinking and smoking in turn for his singing. Soundgarden is one of few bands (maybe the only one) where the lead singer does not get do drugs. (I do not know if he has in the past however) This in itself is a momentous thing!! I do not think I could live with out Chris Cornel's voice oozing out of my stereo system like smooth pudding. I have gotten too attach, as have others, to his melancholic but true spirit to let it go so soon in trade of liquid and smoke each and all of us can do with out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - --Kemi, SG fan for eternity!! - ----The words you say never seem to live up to the songs inside your head----- ------------------------------ From: "Stella Rogers" Subject: Re: SV: No drinks, no Booze > On a side note to those of you that own the Soundgarden 97 calander. Is > this month's picture not one of the worst of all four of them ever! Geez! > it was a bad rock star day on that one. See what smokin, drinkin and chasin > Hootchies will do to ya!! toni Actually I think its a pretty funny pic of them. From what I can tell of Kim's hair, it looks like it was a windy day, probably early in the morning. They probably have better things to do than to sit around and do a photo shoot. So the photographer is probably trying to motivate them and they are just humoring the guy, being the smug smart-asses that they tend to be. I mean, just look at Chris' face. It's saying "I *really* don't want to be here." I totally, absolutely love that look. I don't think the pic is that bad... stella ------------------------------ From: "Martin Andersson" Subject: SV: No drinks, no Booze - ---------- > Fr=E5n: Olukemi Oyesiku > Till: somms@MIT.EDU > =C4mne: No drinks, no Booze > Datum: den 8 april 1997 17:53 >=20 > A while back someone wrote that Chris' should not stop drinking and > smoking. HELLO!! Have you not seen TOMBSTONE? Remember when the doct= or > asked Doc Holiday to quit smokin, drinking to stay alive for a few more > years before TB takes his life, he in fact did not!! He dies at the en= d. > Yes this is a movie and probably not a true story, however the same rul= es > apply. If Chris quits smokin' and drinking, even just for a little while, > I am sure his voice will improve. I so fucking tired of all these lead > singers fucking up their careers because of liquid, smoke, or in some cases > powder. It is so fucking not worth it!! Examples: Kurt Cobain, Jim > Morrison, Shannon Hoon, "Doc Holiday", etc. Yeah, someone is bound to > respond that it is ONLY booze or it is ONLY cigarrettes, but those can KILL > what is most important to him, his voice!!! They may also lead to more > serious illnesses. Frankly, I would rather have him not sing at all for= a > while and take a temporary leave from the band for a year or so in orde= r > for him to come back with SG with even better (if at all possible) songs!! > So many bands fuck up because their lead singers were to fucking stupid= : > Guns and Roses, Van Halen (although they are back but not as good as th= ey > were), Ugly Kid Joe (where the fuck are they?) and so on!! Chris Corne= ll > and Soundgarden kick some serious ass and I would hate to seem them fuc= k up > now since they are doing so well. I respect Chris' too much to condone (as > if it were up to me) drinking and smoking in turn for his singing. > Soundgarden is one of few bands (maybe the only one) where the lead singer > does not get do drugs. (I do not know if he has in the past however)=20 This > in itself is a momentous thing!! I do not think I could live with out > Chris Cornel's voice oozing out of my stereo system like smooth pudding= .=20 I > have gotten too attach, as have others, to his melancholic but true spirit > to let it go so soon in trade of liquid and smoke each and all of us ca= n do > with out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >=20 > --Kemi, > SG fan for eternity!! >=20 >=20 > ----The words you say never seem to live up to the songs inside your head----- >=20 >=20 Is it that bad. Do the other guys in the band smoke and drink allso. You=B4re making me scared. Let SG be for ever !!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: gun Subject: This favourit song thing... > From: Deborah Baker > Subject: Definitively Maybe > > Is there a definitive Soundgarden song? Not for me, there isn't. I haven't > even got an all time *favourite* Sg song - they change all the time. That's > what I love about Soundgarden. They are virtually impossible to label. When > people ask me, 'So what are they like then?' I either say (lamely) "they > rock!" or I lend 'em a tape! > > Of course I can't know for sure, but I can't imagine the band wanting to be > linked to one song. Especially BHS :-) As for JCP, Chris once said he he > considered it to be completely atypical of Soundgarden. Ben says it's fast > funk! So there you go :-) > > UKDeb > > ------------------------------ > You might be right in saying that there isn't really one "all time best song" from SG, but still there is always one song to which you can relate as beeing your favorite. For me, it's "Mind Riot". It hasen't got the best chorus or the best riff but this tune manages to make me want to break down and cry every time. Listen to the song, the way Chris sings on it is really unique. It shows us all how much he mourns for Andy. And this should touch everyone's soul... Take care Swiss Chris ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: 120 mins and aussies, pls read. it was funny how someone mentioned about how they heard rollins say 'soundgarden' and it immediately caught their attention... i was taping the segment and brushing my teeth and i heard 'soundgarden' and then i had to wait until the end of rollins' segment so i could rewind and see what he said. i forgot that kim wrote the liner notes for those devo albums. need to check that out. also, did any australians catch stone gossard on triple j yesterday??! if so, and if you TAPED it (or know anyone who did), pls email me! email me even if you just heard it -- i need an accurate report. thanks, - --caryn ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Re: SV: No drinks, no Booze At 06:24 PM 4/8/97 +0200, you wrote: >Is it that bad. Do the other guys in the band smoke and drink allso. I think Kim might drink a "little" beer on occasion and smoke two or three packs a day!!! I am not an advocate of smoking, don't do it myself but I don't think our preaching to Chris and Kim and Ben(for that matter) is going to do much good. People only quit smoking when "they" want to quit! Not loved ones, friends or fans can make them! On a side note to those of you that own the Soundgarden 97 calander. Is this month's picture not one of the worst of all four of them ever! Geez! it was a bad rock star day on that one. See what smokin, drinkin and chasin Hootchies will do to ya!! toni ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: Re: Sermon on Pop Music Rita Bonofiglio wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Seth W. wrote: > > > will all happen a bazillion times. This "Pop Media" we bitch about is being > > dictated by the same fifth graders that had to re-do their wardrobe when the > > look of cool changed abruptly from Nirvana to 311. > > exactly right...this bandwagon is slowly emptying, but it does not bother > me...we may be fewer now, but we're definitley better...and going to see a > soundgarden show just becomes more bareable. no more having to put up > with some trendy asshole who just wakes up from his pot induced sleep > when black hole sun comes on. > > -----rita b. You are both exactly right, 311 is now the "cool" thing to listen to. a year ago it was Soundgarden. - Marie ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Ben Shepherd watch On Tue, 8 Apr 1997, Harris, Court V. wrote: > > Local activity of SG in Seattle hasn't leveled off since the end of tour. > Ben played with Devilhead last Friday night at Moe's. It was a good set. > He yelled, spit, trashed on his guitars, and narrowly missed kicking his > guitar tech in the head while kicking the shit out of a clock on the wall. i hope to hell you were sarcastic when you said "it was a good set". (Then again, the words "good set" and "Devilhead" together in the same sentance are by themselves a contradiction in terms.) that clock has been there through more violent bands, and it gets destroyed by BEN playing with sorry-ass DEVILHEAD???? jeez louise. > I guess he didn't want to end his set after forty minutes, so he killed > time instead and kept on playing. Among other songs, AC DC's Dirty Deeds > was well covered, with Ben panting and screaming. The other acts were good > too, with members of Satchel getting together with some locals as Meth Lab > and riding a Pantera sounding groove. Anyway, Ben is still alive and > playing, vintage pissed off and dark as always.... and boy am i glad i stayed home and wrote some code instead. not even worth walking down the street for. i mean, i can't stand devilhead, and i'm not going to support ben's tantrums by only going to watch *them*. i am going to stand in the very back corner when i go to see hater. or at least on the opposite side of the stage from ben. i've got the show written on my white board in the kitchen and during ktms week (ktms = kim thayil mercenary squad), various people added "bring football helmet" as well as "and hockey mask". (thank you, andrea and -- thug? i think?) [now, if i could only figure out who sorted out the magnetic words on the fridge to read 'i/still/crave/sex'... hrmmmmmm..... /me looks at various hootchie types] ben shepherd is a spoiled brat. he is not cool. he's a kickass bass player, and for that i love him, but i'm not going to admire his tantrums. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Jaime Gonzalez Subject: Re: SV: No drinks, no Booze Yes it is,They all look like they didn't get any sleep,especially,matt and Kim,what really bites,is that is probably the only month with a picture of the rest of the bands,There may be a second month with the whole band.I cannot remember. Gonzo At 03:40 PM 4/8/97 -0500, you wrote: > On a side note to those of you that own the Soundgarden 97 calander. Is >this month's picture not one of the worst of all four of them ever! Geez! >it was a bad rock star day on that one. See what smokin, drinkin and chasin >Hootchies will do to ya!! toni > > jgg@pilot.msu.edu - ------------------------------------------------ Forgot my women,lost my friends things I've done , and where I've been sleep in sweat,the mirrors cold see my face it's growing old. - ------------------------------------------------ Head down hide that smile head high got to smile head high like a song you like - ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: #1 Brat Subject: The Top Ten T o p T e n M o s t A m a z i n g S o u n d g a r d e n S o n g s __________________________________________________ 10. "Outshined" 9. "Apple Bite" 8. "Limo Wreck" 7. "Boot Camp" 6. "Burden in My Hand" 5. "Pretty Noose" 4. "Head Down" 3. "Black Hole Sun" 2. "Ty Cobb" and, the #1 most amazing Sg song, imo, is. . . "Blow Up The Outside World" let me just tell you all this was *very* hard! there's lots of other songs by Sg that i *love* and that almost made it -- "Rusty Cage," "Mailman," "Superunknown"... the list goes on & on. but those r my all-time favorites, the ones that r the most personal to me & that have done so much for me. how about top 10 favorites by anyone? that's even harder. i'd be real interested to hear... where does Sg rate on all of yours? and i also just want to say to all those ppl who're having "BHS re-awakenings"... that makes me really happy, b/c it truly is such an incredibly brilliant, beautiful song, and it means so much to me. it's the song that made me discover Sg... and i know i've said this before, but no matter how many times the video is played, no matter how many times you hear it on the top 40 stations, no matter who covers it, and no matter how many bandwagon-ers there are as a result of it, it's still the same song. that'll never change, and neither will the fact that it's one of my very, very favorites. :) ciao... ~Lorraine "so i drink in the shadows of an evening sky..." "steal the warm wind tired friend..." ------------------------------ From: "Harris, Court V." <14789harri@tacoma.bv.com> Subject: Ben Shepherd watch Local activity of SG in Seattle hasn't leveled off since the end of tour. Ben played with Devilhead last Friday night at Moe's. It was a good set. He yelled, spit, trashed on his guitars, and narrowly missed kicking his guitar tech in the head while kicking the shit out of a clock on the wall. I guess he didn't want to end his set after forty minutes, so he killed time instead and kept on playing. Among other songs, AC DC's Dirty Deeds was well covered, with Ben panting and screaming. The other acts were good too, with members of Satchel getting together with some locals as Meth Lab and riding a Pantera sounding groove. Anyway, Ben is still alive and playing, vintage pissed off and dark as always.... Court ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: from television shepherds with living room sheep... hi list- (first i guess i should say, i am back on the list for now ....so thanks to all of my good friends for staying in touch in the meanwhile, you know who you are :) second, in reference to some of the Wooden Jesus talk (/me waves towards Oz), i remembered that the other night while flipping channels, i passed some show about Televangelists...normally i would have just kept on surfing, but the blaring background music was Wooden Jesus!! Nope, it wasn't on NBC ;-)...it was one of those trashy news shows...but it was cool to hear it, and of course I turned the volume way up and didn't watch the show... Most of you know how i feel about TOTD, so needless to say, i pissed off my neighbors for a few minutes ;-) latuh- eliza ****************************************** I walk these streets alone, shadows hide my face My sins are etched in stone, never to erase My fears unshakeable, if I could believe I'd trade these wings of gold, for what I really need - --CC ------------------------------ From: RustyWave6@aol.com Subject: Vinyl, Road Rash, and Girl U Want Hey how's everybody doin'? I just received my Until It Sleeps 10" in the mail today from Vinyl Records ( I would have gotten SG but everything is gone!!!). Does anybody else know where I can order some SG records? i just discovered vinyl and there cool(UIS is a tranparent red, it looks cool!)! About Road Rash, it's got i think Rusty Cage, Kickstand, and two others i think, i can't remember but there's nothing that's exclusive to it. you're not the only one that still plays games! and for Devo's Girl U Want, it's also played during the opening credits to Tank Girl. kevin ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: SV: No drinks, no Booze About the calender picture... I think it's pretty funny. Ben's actually smiling! Come on we all know that SG probably hate photos but have to do them for p.r. The picture is cool cause it seems like they are making fun of the stupid photographer and Chris is just like thinking of thoughts beyond the moment. Just my 2 cents. lee *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Heal my wound without a trace and seal my tomb without my face, I'm going to the only place... -C. Cornell *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* ------------------------------ From: Tino Rizzi Subject: edmonton,ab i was just wondering if there is anybody out there from edmonton,alberta.if there is maybe we can get together and talk about soundgarden and trade copys of soundgarden stuff.let me know tino ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 82] ***************************************