From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 8 Apr 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 01:54:31 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 8 Apr 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Definitive Soundgarden Re: very alternately tuned as well... Re:Black Hole Sun:It has risen!!!! Flower video Re : very alternately tuned as well... Chris will be singing to his grand kids ;) hmmmmmmm Re: Vocals and uncontrollable spending my top ten favorite re: Road Rash 3 Video??? My remedy when i'm feelin' down and out... Re: feed your head with somms Re: Soundgarden/The Doors Re: Definitive Soundgarden Re: Road Rash 3 Video??? Road Rash 3 Video??? Word for word Re: Road Rash 3 Video??? What I did on my spring vacation! Brandeis U Live Soundgarden Touring dates making of SU Re-Awakening, BHS style Re: Word for word Re: Road Rash 3 Video??? Re: The great 9/8 debate uncontrolable spending/obsessive listening/120 Min. re: very alternately tuned as well... Re: Chris will be singing to his grand kids ;) ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Vasant Ramamurthy Subject: Re: Definitive Soundgarden Best all-round song(s): Jesus Christ Pose, Loud Love Best guitar-riff: JCP and Birth Ritual Best guitarsolo: ? Best bass-riff: Pretty Noose Best drumplay or whatever: Jesus Christ Pose, Never the Machine Forever Best vocals: 4th of July Best lyrics: Like Suicide Best use of an "unusual" instrument: Ty Cobb Coolest cover: Screaming Life/Fopp vasant Vasant Ramamurthy vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html ------------------------------ From: tendrils Subject: Re: very alternately tuned as well... > Hi everyone. I'm glad to see mind riot ask this. My friends say I'm an > alternate tunings junkie. I just *like* alternate tunings, alot! The yup, i'm with you on that one. just can't get enough of Sg's CGCGGE... The two G strings of the same octave just give sound the *best*.... The head down riff really does... well, i guess I'm reborn every time i hear it. Half is great too. And the giant power chord tuning EEBBBB in My Wave just gives you more power in a one finger chord than should be possible. But its not just the tunings, its the brilliant way Sg can use the tunings to their full potential, and really get original stuff from them like : harmonics in Limo Wreck riff Rhythm part under Like Suicide solo Fresh Tendrils & My Wave chorus rhythm parts Anyone else got any they really think are noteworthy? (hey, there are just *so* many.... :) ) ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: Re:Black Hole Sun:It has risen!!!! The exact thing happened to me this week. For the past week I've been listening to SU about 2 or 3 times a day. I was so into the album, more than I've ever been before. It was so amazing, because I guess I never realized how great the album is (I mean, I knew it was great, but I guess I was just really into it for the past few days.) And when the time came for BHS, I would skip it. I was just so terribly sick of the song (thanks to MTV and the radio) that I just didn't feel like hearing it again. But last night it was on the radio and I was too lazy to change the station so I kept it on. Then I realized what an amazing song it was (even though I knew that too, but, you know!) Also, they're sarting to play Rhinosaur on the radio. But I played that song out myself by listening to it too much, but it's still one of my fave songs. I could listen to it forever. - -sndgrdn45 ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Flower video You can download the entire Flower video off of Seth's page. :) I'm telling this to the list for the person who emailed the list about it because I'm not sure which email address to email that person. :) <~ Try to figure that one out! May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: "Farsi" Subject: Re : very alternately tuned as well... mind riot wrote: >um, did the boys make some of these up, or are they just capitalizing >on alternate tunings? No, these aren't standard guitar tunes, these are the guitar tuned in a major or minor scale. it's kinda like tuning the guitar into a certain chord form so if you strike all strings open it gives you that chord. I'm not an expert on this stuff, but I asked a pro and that what he told me. FCFACF is also used in blues (I think) Farsi - -And I'm lost, behind - -The words I'll never find - -And I'm left behind - -As seasons roll on by --Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: Chris will be singing to his grand kids ;) Hiya! Ali writes..... >>Its funny how I was >>think about that this morning when I was listening to BMF (what an >>amazing album to F*!k to) hee hee. Sounds like fun. Kinda like Chris' neighbors way back when ;). I wish my hubby would let me play it I would probably be a wild woman! >>how if he keeps it up he may permanently damage >>his voice, I hope not. Lemme say two words in response to this whole "were scared Chris is gonna ruin his voice" thing: Steven Tyler. ;) >>And if you get chance check out the picture of Chris on the cover of the >>book Noise(I think thats the whole name, forgive me if I'm mistaken). What book is this? As a collecteur of too much stuff, incl. SG stuff, is this a SG book? Or is only his pic on the cover if some other book? Also, am having a hard time finding "The making of Superunknown". If anybody knows of a store that has it, please lemme know. You guys are so cool! Thanks Carol "Let your motor race......pick it up.....and get this mother gone" ------------------------------ From: "McMahon Potvin" Subject: hmmmmmmm I didn't know we could use the word BADMOTORFINGER to curse someone... oh well. I just got a copy of the ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN cd-rom, and i'm wonderin' how the hell i lived without it for the past 2 years. It's a really cool cd... those who own it defenitly know what i'm talkin' about. I mean, for 15$, you get a whole lot... talk about your $ worth!!!! Later... Marc ------------------------------ From: Mark Miller Subject: Re: Vocals and uncontrollable spending I guess I am really lucky. I heard Chris do I Awake on the 94 tour in Rochester, NY. I didnt think he could hit those high notes anymore back then. Let me tell you he was right on and he was full of power. A friend of mine is a classical singer. She says Chris is destroying his voice because he doesnt know how to sing properly.. She says you can tell by the stress in his neck when he sings that he sings too much with his throat and not enough with his diaphram. That is why he goes flat so often. Anyway it puts way too much stress on his vocal chords so serious damage is inevitable. Mark ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Harrison (PennState U.)!!!!!" Subject: my top ten favorite my favorite songs from soundgarden's albums 1. Pretty Noose 2. ty cobb 3. Birth Ritual 4. Limo Wreck 5. Drawing Flies 6. Fell On Black Days 7. Jesus Christ Pose 8. Head Down 9. an unkind 10. The Day I Tried To Live These are the best Jeffrey Michael Harrison ------------------------------ From: Andrea Pinto Subject: re: Road Rash 3 Video??? I do recall Chris & gang discussing this project on an old episode of Headbanger's ball. I think maybe july '94???? They made an appearance after the bowling episode & talked about how they came to be a part of this video game & went into all the music details. >> From: JesusCPose@aol.com >> Subject: Road Rash 3 Video??? > >> Hello Sommsters--- >> I was just looking at games to rent on Sony Playstation, sorry some of us >> never grow up, and I came across the game Road Rash 3. The back of the box >> said that the background music was provided by the *hottest* A&M bands >>around >> such as...Soundgarden, Monster Magnet, Swervedriver and two others I cant >> seem to remember. Then it said that two of these bands had full-length >> videos along with the game. Total coolness, listen to the band while >> bashing others off motorcycles with crowbars at 150 mph!!!! > >> Just wondering if anyone else has seen this and know which song and/or >>video >> is played on the game. Would have rented it but it was already taken, >> damndarn!!!! > >Jesus ------------------------------ From: "McMahon Potvin" Subject: My remedy when i'm feelin' down and out... As the subject says, here's the ULTIMATE remedy for people feelin' down and out. Take notice that the remedy only works if you're a soundgarden fan... Just take a copy of the BADMOTORFINGER cd, and crank up the fifth track... FACE POLLUTION... If it doesn't get rid of yo blues... i don't know what will.... Marc I don't feel like feelin'....feelin' like you.... ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: Re: feed your head with somms On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, Jaime Gonzalez wrote: > "Music: Shepherd; this means that Ben wrote the music for the song called > "Switch Opens". > "Lyrics: Cornell" this means that Chris penned the lyrics to the song called > "Switch Opens" Yeah, this is what I thought originally. Thanks for confirming it. > In Soundgarden,Chris is the main Vocalist for the band.He is the > front man.Chris sings all the songs except for the occasionally one. > for example;On Superunknown Ben sings on Half,and on UltraMega OK,Hiro > sang on Power trip. Um..thanks. I already knew this but hey, it's all good. - -vince (who suddenly feels like a newbie all over again) ------------------------------ From: Vasant Ramamurthy Subject: Re: Soundgarden/The Doors >From: ooyesiku@brynmawr.edu (Olukemi Oyesiku) >It was uncanny!! Has anyone ever seen the movie The Doors starring Val >Kilmer? Well, let me tell you the lyrics and the things that went on in >thaa movie >reminded me so much of Soundgarden. The following are a few examples: >- --in some of the songs Morrison mentions "snake" which is a very popular >word for Chris!! that would be "the end", right? "ride the snake, to the lake, the snake is long, seven miles..." >- --there is a desert scene in the movie that reminds me of "Burden in My >Hand" video. >- --In "Burden" Chris sings "oh no, there she goes, out in the sunshine, sun >is mine, sun is mine". In this desert scene Jim's girlfriend is dancing in >the sun while he is following a naked indian into a red background. hey, aren't you talking about wayne's world 2? ;-) but seriously, they did play "waiting for the sun" at lollapalooza last year. so i guess they're fans. vasant Vasant Ramamurthy vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: Definitive Soundgarden Best all-round song(s): Jesus Christ Pose, Flower, Beyond the Wheel Best guitar-riff: Jesus Christ Pose, Flower, Beyond the Wheel Best guitarsolo: Slaves and Bulldozer's Best bass-riff: Dazed and Confused Best drumplay or whatever: Jesus Christ Pose Best vocals: Beyond the Wheel Best lyrics: Head Down, Mind Riot, I Awake Best use of an "unusual" instrument: Ty Cobb (mandolin and computer generated voice) Coolest cover: Badmotorfinger Coolest cover song: Cop Killer Coolest special guest: stephanie barber Coolest band covering a SG song: Cibo Mato (BHS) Best Remix: Dusty (Moby Remix) Best word to describe your first SG concert: Spiritual Best Sandwich: Turkey on Rye w/French Dressing or Spicy Mustard Best Dessert: plain cheesecake Favourite Colour: Forest Green How do you order your coffee?: triple grande skim latte If you were a flower...what kind would you be? a blue rose steve - - Heavy Rotation: Chemical brothers - "setting sun", prodigy - "voodoo people (chemical brothers remix)", u2 - "discotheque (hexidecimal mix)", u2 - "desire (hollywood tonight remix)", Tricky - "christiansands", the Who - "who are you", Soundgarden - "Beyond the Wheel (live)", spice girls - "we suck (tipton-foster kicked off the list mix)", the cult - "the witch" ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: Road Rash 3 Video??? Are you sure about that? As far as I understood, Kickstand was on it. I don't remember hearing about RC or Outshined though. There may be a difference between the PC version and the game-system versions. I'd like to hear what exactly is on the game though. I'll probably have to buy it to find out for sure... Geoff GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: > > as far as i know, rusty cage and outshined are two sg songs, but i > believe there's a third too... if not more. and i didn't ever hear of > a SG video on the game, but i know for sure of those songs. > > mind riot > > ____ > someone said my words are out of balance... ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Road Rash 3 Video??? um, "jesus" wrote: > Just wondering if anyone else has seen this and know which song and/or video is played on the game. < as far as i know, rusty cage and outshined are two sg songs, but i believe there's a third too... if not more. and i didn't ever hear of a SG video on the game, but i know for sure of those songs. mind riot ____ someone said my words are out of balance... ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Word for word Hey people, I found something the other day which is kinda funny. Muchmusic has this segment they show every once in a while called Word for Word, in which they ask artists who have been interviewed what they read or are reading, or what their favorite book is. I haven't seen any segments with anybody from SG, but I'm using up a AOL free trial, and I found that they did indeed ask Kim what he reads. I'll quote the excerpt from AOL: Soundgarden Superhero comic books --Kim Thayil Does that surprise anyone? I wonder what Chris reads, and what, if any influence what he reads has on his lyrics. That's all for now. Geoff ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Road Rash 3 Video??? From: seth > Are you sure about that? As far as I understood, Kickstand was on it. > I don't remember hearing about RC or Outshined though. There may be a > difference between the PC version and the game-system versions. I'd > like to hear what exactly is on the game though. I'll probably have to > buy it to find out for sure... Road Rash includes: Rusty Cage Outshined Superunknown Kickstand seth ------------------------------ From: "Toni M. Roark" Subject: What I did on my spring vacation! Hello all, don't worry I won't bore you with details of my ultra boring...mega frustrating vacation I had with various family members....it's all too horrible. Why Oh Why am I the "good" daughter??? Anyway, I was stuck in Indianapolis at one point and picked up their free local paper, NUVO and there was an interview with a band called Sexpod. Anyone know much about them?? They are called a "female power trio" out of NYC and one of the questions put to them was; "All the press bio stuff compares you guys to Patti Smith and Soundgarden?" The answer back was standard, "I think that's record company hype. People get compared in order for other people to get what they're saying. I was doing an interview the other day and this guy compared us to another band from NYC. I loved the band but I don't see the comparison. I don't even own a Soundgarden record." What's up with that woman...no taste...... she doesn't even own a SG record!!!!!!!! I was just curious about them so let me know if you have an info or have heard them.=20 Susan wrote: >I think a tough-love approach is >called for. The other members of the band should obtain a Keith >Richards record, or a Stones record that features Keith singing.=20 >Preferably one that has not been doctored up in the studio. Strap >Chris into a chair, rig the Stones record to play in a constant loop, >and make him listen to the thing for a whole damn day. Hey Chris... >keep smoking and drinking, and your voice might be as good as=20 >Keith's someday!!! <<<<<>>. Now wait a minute there Susan, now you are walking on scared ground! It wasn't the smoking or drinkin that "matured" Keith's voice! It was the 20 some odd years of doing smack and than a nasty blood transfusion(must of received some non -singers blood) :) Also back in the BT(before Tipton) days. Someone mentioned being a Kim hootchie. Now I am also a Kim fan and I'm sorry but those of us that are Kim fans are not hootchies!! More like Kim's Trollops or Courtesans!! Not so common as a hootchie! We got us more class and culture and a dictionary....Kim would want us that way!! OUCH!! The hootchies are throwing copies of the CC pix of the day and nose rings at me!! toni=09 ------------------------------ From: mstefanova@clarku.edu Subject: Brandeis U Live Hello everybody, I assume you already discussed the cancelled (postponed?) SG concert in Waltham that was originally scheduled for November'96, so I apologize for bringing up the topic again. It's just that I am a new member of the list and even though I searched the archive I couldn't find any info on whether and when will Soundgarden play in Massachusetts (or, for that matter, any place close around). So I will appreciate if any of you would take the pains to update my knowledge on this issue. I'm a big fan from Southeastern Europe where Soundgarden don't seem to visit often, and I really don't wanna miss the chance to see the band while I'm in the States. Thank you ------------------------------ From: "Martin Andersson" Subject: Soundgarden Touring dates Hello ! Do annyone know of the SG touring dates for Europe. If so please send me them. I have only seen Soundgarden Live ones and it was amzing. But I thought they where a little stiff and ben was spitting at the crowd all the time and actet relly strange. I dont think they bin like this all the time. Is it just in thepast years. Are they getting old or something. Please send me a Mail @: Riddler@swipnet.se ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: making of SU >Slave4cc@aol.com wrote: >Also, I am having a hard time finding "The making of Superunknown". If anybody knows >of a store that has it, please lemme know. > I bought it at Tower Records, but I have also seen it at best buy. Marie ------------------------------ From: cornell Subject: Re-Awakening, BHS style Rita wrote about her BHS reawakening, and it definitely struck a nerve in my brain, which I am constantly saturating in music. I have had a BHS reawakening too!!! I AM A BELIEVER!!! JOIN US, CHILDREN!!! All joking aside, it's a really cool feeling. When you feel like there's nothing in your music collection to satisfy your yearning, you wind up popping in some old favorite and discovering (or rediscovering) new realms of depth and beauty in the music. As a matter of fact, I had a Superunknown awakening some time ago. I was really pissed for a while, and superunknown seemed played out, both from the radio and me spinning the disc constantly. I listened to lots of other music, from Tom Petty to Tool, but no SG. Then, one day I popped in Superunknown. It was like being renewed. It was fucking great. Gregg - -- d i s i l l u s i o n http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 "bring it down and under-in" ------------------------------ From: Rita Subject: Re: Word for word > I found something the other day which is kinda funny. Muchmusic has > this segment they show every once in a while called Word for Word, in > which they ask artists who have been interviewed what they read or are > reading, or what their favorite book is. I haven't seen any segments > with anybody from SG, but I'm using up a AOL free trial, and I found > that they did indeed ask Kim what he reads. I'll quote the excerpt from > AOL: Soundgarden Superhero comic books --Kim Thayil i actually saw the live clip of this on muchmusic. chris and kim were being interviewed by sook-yin (mm v.j.) at lolla and kim said that he reads comic books on the tour bus mostly. he said he can't get into "real books" on the bus because he is constantly having to put it down for some reason or another....sure kim, sure. just admit it! there is no shame in reading comic books, even if you are an intelligent, philosopher, guitar playing rock god ;) by the way, sook-yin asked them both the question and chris just sat there staring at the jar of strange candy (?) that she brought them. he didn't answer the question, but he did take a piece of candy and mentioned that they looked like "controlled substances", he smirked something like "you swallow it, cross the border and thats how you get your controlled substance passed customs." did chris like have some bad expierence at the canadian-us border? he is always full of border cop smart ass remarks...like the one he yelled out in toronto last november in concert, something about hiding a 22" color tv in his asshole, hey he said it, not me!! oh chris, does that well of wit and charm in your head ever empty? ;) *rita* "matt's my big man, everyone needs a big man...[turns to audience] do you want a big man?" ---> Chris Cornell, in Toronto on November 13, 1996(where's shroom when you need her?!?!!) ------------------------------ From: u1002740@host.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Mlinscek) Subject: Re: Road Rash 3 Video??? I have this game and SOUNDGARDEN is heard on it, but they don't have a video. The 2 videos are Swervedriver playing Duel and Paw playing Dragline. The SOUNDGARDEN songs that are in the game are Kickstand, Outshined, Rusty Cage, and Superunknown. Come stand me up. Come stand me up. ----Kickstand---- Sean ------------------------------ From: taylor@stratos.net (Taylor) Subject: Re: The great 9/8 debate > On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, cornell wrote: > > > In regards to who's responsible for odd time sigs: > > Whoever writes the song is the man behind the weird sigs. It > > seems that all of SG is into weird time signatures when they write > > a song, except for Matt. (all of his songs are in 4/4, no?) > > MAILMAN!!!!!! > (The verse is in 4/4 for two bars then one 7/8 and then one 3/4...) > > /martin. > And Limo Wreck. Modern Drummer, June 1994: "Limo Wreck," verse section "Ah, the majesty of rock. This is just your basic, slow, curdling, 15/8 groove. A friend of Kim's says Mozart wrote things in this rhythm. Amadeus rocks!" ---------Matt Cameron Taylor K. - -- "Holy devil in the flesh Some might believe" ------------------------------ From: Larry Grover Subject: uncontrolable spending/obsessive listening/120 Min. If something Soundgarden related doesn't present itself to me for buying, I go FIND something. That's how bad it is. It keeps me broke, but happy. As to why we feel compelled to listen to our daily dose of Soundgarden, I know why, and I know why we don't tire of it. It's because their music works so well on so many different levels and the lyrics are both beautiful at face value and thought provoking. There's enough diversity of material that there is something there for me regardless of what mood I'm in. How many bands can you honestly say that about? And the energy level, even in the slower songs-- well, no cup of coffee ever did that for me!! I saw that snippet of Flower on 120 Min., too and thought the same thing--Damn it! Play all of it!! Then later in the show Henry Rollins was talking about how cool he thinks it is that people are discovering DEVO because of Soundgarden's endorsement of them. I was in the middle of doing something else at the time, but of course hearing the magic word "Soundgarden" I pricked up my ears. Jen Grover ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: re: very alternately tuned as well... regarding the tunings and whether SG makes them up or just stumbled onto them . . . I think a little bit of both . .. if you look at FCFACF, it's just an open F chord, you could play it by just tuning to open E (EBEG#BE) and sticking a capo on the 1st fret . . . and CGCGGE is just a twisted open C tuning (normally I think that third G would be a C or something...) . . . but things like Fourth of July I think are pretty original . . . and I'm sure Like Suice (DGDGBC) is original . . . when you really think about it, SG's tunings aren't really that twisted after all . . . . . . oh, and regarding who comes up with the odd timings, I think Kim is responsible for most (though I think all band members have had some influence on at least one odd timing), though I don't think it has anything to do with his heredity . . . and don't forget Matt on Mailman, which has 4/4, 2/4, and 3/4 all in the same riff! . . . and I can't recall Kim using 9/8 on any other songs besides NTMF...? The Guitarist-2001 "Without you everything falls apart Without you it's not as much fun to pick up the pieces" - The Perfect Drug, Nine Inch Nails ------------------------------ From: Ali@Worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: Chris will be singing to his grand kids ;) Slave4cc@aol.com wrote: > > Hiya! > > Ali writes..... > > >>Its funny how I was > >>think about that this morning when I was listening to BMF (what an > >>amazing album to F*!k to) > > hee hee. Sounds like fun. Kinda like Chris' neighbors way back when ;). I > wish my hubby would let me play it I would probably be a wild woman! > > >>how if he keeps it up he may permanently damage > >>his voice, I hope not. > > Lemme say two words in response to this whole "were scared Chris is gonna > ruin his voice" thing: > > Steven Tyler. ;) > > >>And if you get chance check out the picture of Chris on the cover of the > >>book Noise(I think thats the whole name, forgive me if I'm mistaken). > > What book is this? As a collecteur of too much stuff, incl. SG stuff, is > this a SG book? Or is only his pic on the cover if some other book? Also, am > having a hard time finding "The making of Superunknown". If anybody knows of > a store that has it, please lemme know. > > You guys are so cool! > > Thanks > > Carol > "Let your motor race......pick it up.....and get this mother gone" Sorry about that one C, the full name of the book is Noise from the undergroud: A secret history of alternative rock. You can find more info about it on the Unofficial SG Homepage. Look under miscellany. And.... Just slap on BMF in shuffle mode with some other CD's, and I DOUBT very seriously that he will know the difference. Do we take this band seriously or what?? Oh what obsession can do to you. later....... ali........ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 81] ***************************************