From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 7 Apr 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 02:49:33 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 7 Apr 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Black Hole Sun: It has risen!!!! 665/X-mas The great 9/8 debate BadMotorFinger/SOMMS Double CD for Sale or Trade Re: one quick request Soundgarden On The Brain!!! one quick request SG on Love Line?? very alternately tuned as well... Re: Vocals and Uncontrolable Spending Doors movie Black Hole Sun: It has risen!!!! Re: very alternately tuned as well... Road Rash 3 Video??? I think I just whizzed my pants Re: The great 9/8 debate ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Jason S. Lewis" Subject: Re: Black Hole Sun: It has risen!!!! At 10:18 PM 4/6/97 -0400, you wrote: >Something very strange happened to me today, and i decided to share with >you all since it is soundgarden related. i was sitting around waiting for >the basketball game to start and to kill time i popped soundgarden into >the cd player (big suprise eh?). i decided on superunknown, figuring i'd >give badmotorfinger a break before it snaps in half due to over >use (i know that can't *really* happen, relax!) and really, i was just in >like suicide-let me drown-head down sort of mood ;-) now that i let you >all in on the boring details of my sunday afternoon, i will get to the point. > >i had the cd on a shuffle, and i sat back and let the music penetrate my >brain...then black hole sun came on. usually when i hear the spooky >little sound at beginning of the song (i am not a musician alright! i >don't know what that thing is called) i turn it off because, frankly, i >had just had it with that song. however today, i was stuck to my sofa and >did not want to get up to change it...so i let go. now, i have not >listened to this song from beginning to end in at least 2 years because it >just became unbearable since it was PLAYED TO DEATH a few years ago. today >though, as soon as i heard "in my eyes, indisposed..." i just got this >chill, like i was hearing it for the first time, and i have realized i >have forgotten what a truly magnificent song this is. and i felt kind of >sad that is was almost ruined for me. radio/mtv/muchmusic tend to do that >to good songs... > >anyway, has anyone else ever had this sort of black hole sun reawakening >expierence? it is really a wonderful thing. and might i even suggest to >the bhs haters (and believe me i used to be one) to take a listen to it >and see if you realize it too? > >radio can be a very evil entity... > >thanks for listening children! >-----Rita > Actually, I'm trying to invoke a like-new experience for the entire superunknown album by not listening to it until summer. I can't say I've been loyal to this though... Just this week I listened to Limo Wreck once and Head Down twice. Anyways, I think it will be worth it. - -jason ------------------------------ From: Anders B-N Nergaard Subject: 665/X-mas On the 5th of April pencapchew wrote: >a while ago, SOMEONE on the list posted how they had used their computer to >play 665->667 backwards and discovered a secret 'satanic' message. > >I didn't see anyone mention this before, in the recent issue of that Guitar >World magazine, there is a small section about 665-667 where two people named >Matt Brown and Tommy Smith had used their computer to discover the hidden >backward lyrics. I am first of all wondering if the two people that got >published in the magazine are the same that are on the somms list???? > >and also, Kim replied to their letter, pretty neat-o eh.. >well this is what he said: >"The song was a total spoof on the whole backmasking thing. Since we were >teenagers, we knoew about backward masking on Led Zeppelin and Beatles >albums. We just flipped the tape over and recorded Chris singing backward. >"My sweet Santa, oh my sweet Santa. I miss you. What are you bringing me >this year? The Grinch tried to spoil things for you, but you showed him!' > It's an ode to Santa, not Satan." > >so who posted about this originally? and how exactly did u do it again in >case i decide to listen to it someday.. > >- -pencapchew If you ment 'a while ago' like on the 16th of May, it was me. This is what I wrote: >Since I've had no luck finding the COMPLETE lyrics to 665 (UMOK), I'm trying to figure them out myself, but alas I need help. >This is what I've already got: > >------------------------------- >It's creeping in >In so slow >Trapping it, nobody's home > >"This is where I need help"-part And I still do... >It's creeping in >In so slow >Trapping it, nobody's home >------------------------------- > >Then you've got the backwards-song, the right channel is best to use while >trying to figure out the lyrics. (is there a name for this song, or should I >just call it Santa, X-mas or something?): > >------------------------------------------------ >Oh baby, hail Santa, we don't sleep, >I'll never sleep with somebody >I love you Santa, I love you >You got my things Santa baby, help me >Yeah you know what I need >Santa is key, Santa is key. >Hail Santa, I love you baby, hail Santa >You've got what I need >Help, help, my Christmas key >Santa is my key, help >I love you Santa baby, >got what I need >------------------------------------------------ > >Is it just me, or is this song sort of hilarious? >Please E-mail me corrections/suggestions. IF, this was the mail you were refering to I've got this to say. I thought it was a well known fact, the whole thing about 665 (it's definetly not a satanic message, just a Santa vs. Satan thing ;) ), but obviously I was mistaking. I am NOT one of the persons who were in the magazine (maybe I could have been though). As for the lyrics qouted from Kim, I can't seem to find them on the song... To the part of how I played the song backwards, it's really simple if you have it on vinyl. I didn't, so I sampled it on my computer (CD quality, 16bits, 44kHz). You'll need some 20MB for this. Then I revesered the song using WaveTable (it's not that advanced at all). Andy "Fill your head with crazy sounds" ------------------------------ From: cornell Subject: The great 9/8 debate In regards to who's responsible for odd time sigs: Whoever writes the song is the man behind the weird sigs. It seems that all of SG is into weird time signatures when they write a song, except for Matt. (all of his songs are in 4/4, no?) However, much admiration to Mr. Cameron for his beats that he comes up with and his ability to maintain time. Two days ago our bassist presented me with a line in 13/8 time. Sometimes drummers just aren't appreciated! Anyway, it's refreshing to see such inventiveness with 3 chord, 4/4 wonders like Bush and No Doubt ruling the airwaves. Here's to many more happy 15/16 Soundgarden years! Gregg - -- d i s i l l u s i o n http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 "bring it down and under-in" ------------------------------ From: Andrew Christensen Subject: BadMotorFinger/SOMMS Double CD for Sale or Trade Hello there everyone. i have one of the coveted BMF/SOMMS double cds and i would REALLY like to trade it for the Hater "Circles/Gen-O-Cide" 7" on SubPop. if anyone has this and would like to trade, please email me privately. i will also consider selling it if anyone is interested in purchasing it for cash. kthanks a lot bye. andrew ------------------------------ From: "Stella Rogers" Subject: Re: one quick request Hey guys, they were NEVER on loveline. I remember back on the radio show, David Spade was on it and he was talking about guests that were on SNL and he said something like "Well, we just had a little band from Seattle called Soundgarden on..." and then Adam Corolla went on this tyraid(?) about how Sg keeps declining to do their show. So if they don't want to do that radio show, I doubt they'll ever do the tv show. ( I hope they never do the tv show though. I don't know about any Loveline fans out there but the tv show sucks! If Sg ever did decide to be on loveline, I'd much rather it be on the radio.) stella > If anyone out there has a copy of the loveline show, when SG was on, please > e-mail me. To think just weeks ago I was wishing that they would be on...and > look at what has happened! > > The original pretty noose > (the outkast) > > ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: Soundgarden On The Brain!!! I know that someone was talking about how all they listen to is SG and that their other cd's don't seem to pacify them for very long and that they always went back to SG. Well, it's the same way for me.I have a wide variety of cd's but I always tire of them quickly, but SG, well, I never do get tired of any cd of theirs. Yea, I have my favs which switch from the Flower single to DOTUS but I always love hearing it for the umpteenth time. But not only have I noticed that SG is in my cd player all the time, it's all around me. On 3 occasions (that I can think of now) I've heard something that is SG related. !st: this radio station that plays a variety of groups form R&B to Nirvana (but they NEVER play SG and I don't have a clue why) announced that they had a request for a SG song. Well, I was excited!!! So I waited to see what song it was and it was BHS (I know, I know) but after the song was over the DJ said, "Isn't that a great song from their album before their most recent one....uhh...it's a great song." Well, I was both disgraced and not surprised that the guy couldn't even get the names of 2 albums out of his mouth. Oh well!!! Sorry about that but I had to vent on someone!!! 2nd: my brother and I were playing a hockey game on his nitendo (which is a really cool game btw) and my brother knocked someone flat on there ass and yelled, "TAKE THAT BADMOTORFINGER!!!!!!" Well, immediatly I busted out laughing. Don't asked me why he chose those particular words. 3rd and finally: I caught the last 2 min. of a show, I think it was called Dr. Jekyll and Ms. Hyde, and the song that was playing over the credits was Devo's Girl U Want. Well, I have never heard them sing it and I thought it was cool, but I'll pick SG's Girl U Want anyday!!! All I'm saying is that even if someone wanted to kick their SG habit cold turkey or join some sort of Soundgarden Anonymous group (I have NO idea why anyone would do that though) there is a lot of things out there that would remind them, "Hey, I haven't had my SG today and I miss it!!!" Well, sorry for the stupid, babbling post but I thought I would share!!! Take care and be sweet!!! Stay Cool, Kelly :) ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: one quick request I know almost all of you out there in sommsland a tired of hearing the same old question, but.... If anyone out there has a copy of the loveline show, when SG was on, please e-mail me. To think just weeks ago I was wishing that they would be on...and look at what has happened! The original pretty noose (the outkast) ------------------------------ From: Wednesdayj@aol.com Subject: SG on Love Line?? Lorraine wrote: << first off i wanna know... Sg was on 'Love Line'? no, it can't be! is this for real... somebody out there must know... >> Yes, Yes... Has anyone else known about this to verify? I'm very curious about this. :) >>not one day goes by that i don't listen to Sg incessantly. Anyone else goin' through this?<< Yes, me too... Not a day goes by that I don't listen to Soundgarden. But that's what makes us obsessed, um, dedicated fans. ;-) >>"so i drink in the shadows of an evening sky....."<< Hey... David Bowie! One of my favorite musicians! :) ~ Wednesday ~ I think I know the answer I stumbled on and all the world Fell down And all the sky went silent Cracked like glass and slowly Tumbled to the ground... ~ Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: very alternately tuned as well... okay guys, i was in the car listening to SU when this thought hit me: all these odd tunings that SG uses, did they just happen to make these up, or are the actual real tunings and they just stumbled onto them? i don't know, i really have no idea. i'd never even known CGCGGE tuning exsisted before SG. nor the tuning for 4th of july (it slips my mind right now) and i'd never imagined something like FCFACF (seasons) could have exsisted. it's so strange... but i digress. so, um, did the boys make some of these up, or are they just capitalizing on alternate tunings? mind riot ____ someone said my words are out of balance... ------------------------------ From: Ali@Worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: Vocals and Uncontrolable Spending Jason S. Lewis wrote: > > On a slightly different note, has anyone > else gone through a phase where you must buy every SG related Item that > passes through you range of sight? I wen't out today to a store like to > Wal-mart planning to buy shoes and Batteries, but as I was heading for the > check out I see a rack of shirts, one of which was a SG shirt I didn't have. > I picked it up and headed for the counter. There was nothin to think about. > If i didnt have enough money for the shoes, too bad. > I realize this could be dangerous, but I don't see an end to this > obsession. Can anyone else ralate to this? > > - Jason > 'Keep your chin up and your head down' - the ultimate paradox Yes..... And hang in there you'll get to see them one day. But at this point Chris needs to take care of that voice of his. Its funny how I was think about that this morning when I was listening to BMF (what an amazing album to F*!k to)how if he keeps it up he may permanently damage his voice, I hope not. Also, can anyone recommend a good school or program for someone who is interested in becoming a recording engineer. Anywhere but where I live preferrably, I dont care if its on the other side of the country (I live near Wash. DC, I need out.) more later..... ali........... ------------------------------ From: Ali@Worldnet.att.net Subject: Doors movie Yes I have seen the movie. And now that you bring it up, it does seem uncanny how alot of things from that movie do seem similar to alot of things that SG do. But it is a very good movie. And if you get chance check out the picture of Chris on the cover of the book Noise(I think thats the whole name, forgive me if I'm mistaken). Jim loved to pose in the same fashion, head down, eyes up. Not to freaky...... ali......... ------------------------------ From: Rita Subject: Black Hole Sun: It has risen!!!! Something very strange happened to me today, and i decided to share with you all since it is soundgarden related. i was sitting around waiting for the basketball game to start and to kill time i popped soundgarden into the cd player (big suprise eh?). i decided on superunknown, figuring i'd give badmotorfinger a break before it snaps in half due to over use (i know that can't *really* happen, relax!) and really, i was just in like suicide-let me drown-head down sort of mood ;-) now that i let you all in on the boring details of my sunday afternoon, i will get to the point. i had the cd on a shuffle, and i sat back and let the music penetrate my brain...then black hole sun came on. usually when i hear the spooky little sound at beginning of the song (i am not a musician alright! i don't know what that thing is called) i turn it off because, frankly, i had just had it with that song. however today, i was stuck to my sofa and did not want to get up to change it...so i let go. now, i have not listened to this song from beginning to end in at least 2 years because it just became unbearable since it was PLAYED TO DEATH a few years ago. today though, as soon as i heard "in my eyes, indisposed..." i just got this chill, like i was hearing it for the first time, and i have realized i have forgotten what a truly magnificent song this is. and i felt kind of sad that is was almost ruined for me. radio/mtv/muchmusic tend to do that to good songs... anyway, has anyone else ever had this sort of black hole sun reawakening expierence? it is really a wonderful thing. and might i even suggest to the bhs haters (and believe me i used to be one) to take a listen to it and see if you realize it too? radio can be a very evil entity... thanks for listening children! - -----Rita ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: Re: very alternately tuned as well... Hi everyone. I'm glad to see mind riot ask this. My friends say I'm an alternate tunings junkie. I just *like* alternate tunings, alot! The following information is from the book "Alternate Tunings for Guitar" by Mark Hanson (1991, US-ISBN:0.8256.1251.9, UK-ISBN:0.7119.1658.6): Actually, alternate tunings have been around a long time. They can be traced back to 16th century Renaissance Europe. The guitarlike instruments of the time were the lute and the vihuela. They were most often tuned G C F A D G (low to high). Many classical guitarist of today use this tuning or variations. Bluesmen like Son House, Rober Johnson and Muddy Waters often use alternate tunings to facilitate powerful styles. Alternate guitar tunings are everywhere. In contempory times John Denver(Rocky Mountain High), Doobie Brothers(Black Water), Led Zeppelin(Bron-Y-Aur Stomp), James Taylor(Sugar Trade), Crosby, Stills and Nash(Suite:Judy Blue Eyes), Neil Young(Cinnamon Girl), The Beatles(Dear Prudence), Nirvana(name it), the Melvins(name it), Tad(name it), Afghan Whigs, etc, etc. Jazz guitarists love to use alternate tunings. GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: > > okay guys, i was in the car listening to SU when this thought hit me: > all these odd tunings that SG uses, did they just happen to make > these up, or are the actual real tunings and they just stumbled onto > them? i don't know, i really have no idea. i'd never even known > CGCGGE tuning exsisted before SG. nor the tuning for 4th of july (it > slips my mind right now) and i'd never imagined something like FCFACF > (seasons) could have exsisted. it's so strange... but i digress. so, > um, did the boys make some of these up, or are they just capitalizing > on alternate tunings? > > mind riot > > ____ > someone said my words are out of balance... - -- gene ------------------------------ From: JesusCPose@aol.com Subject: Road Rash 3 Video??? Hello Sommsters--- I was just looking at games to rent on Sony Playstation, sorry some of us never grow up, and I came across the game Road Rash 3. The back of the box said that the background music was provided by the *hottest* A&M bands around such as...Soundgarden, Monster Magnet, Swervedriver and two others I cant seem to remember. Then it said that two of these bands had full-length videos along with the game. Total coolness, listen to the band while bashing others off motorcycles with crowbars at 150 mph!!!! Just wondering if anyone else has seen this and know which song and/or video is played on the game. Would have rented it but it was already taken, damndarn!!!! Jesus ------------------------------ From: giuseppe@thenexus.com Subject: I think I just whizzed my pants and I dont have time to go to use the provider with the inet address with which Im subscribed to the list (el266071@hvcc.edu), so Im mailing you here. I am watching 120 minutes right now, and they just showed Flower, well, about 20 seconds of it. :D They did a flashback thingy and they said that in 1989, Flower debuted on the show, and they were showing it and im just sitting here thinking fuck! SHOW THE WHOLE THING! :> oh well, thats the biggest soundgarden event that has happened in my life lately. :D what i did see of the vid looks really cool..i wana see the whole thing now..damnit ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_And=E9r?= Subject: Re: The great 9/8 debate On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, cornell wrote: > In regards to who's responsible for odd time sigs: > Whoever writes the song is the man behind the weird sigs. It > seems that all of SG is into weird time signatures when they write > a song, except for Matt. (all of his songs are in 4/4, no?) MAILMAN!!!!!! (The verse is in 4/4 for two bars then one 7/8 and then one 3/4...) /martin. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 80] ***************************************