From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 6 Apr 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 03:40:34 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 6 Apr 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Vocals and Uncontrolable Spending This is for the Chris hootchies :-) ROLE MODELS????? Definitively Maybe Definitive Soundgarden Credits Re: Hidden Message Re: 665->667 HIDDEN MESSAGE Re: !!!Hey All! Great To Be Back!!!!! reply to soundagrden and nuttin else Soundgarden/The Doors Re: No Subject Re: Vocals and Uncontrolable Spending ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Jason S. Lewis" Subject: Vocals and Uncontrolable Spending What makes me sad is that I've never seen SG live, and by the time I do Chris may not be able to pull off some of his trademark high notes from songs like outshined, head Injury, and I Awake (it's just a fantasy of mine that I will get to see I Awake performed live someday. I know It probobly won't happen). If chris is forced to quit someday, I won't leave SG, but you know it will never be the same. On a slightly different note, has anyone else gone through a phase where you must buy every SG related Item that passes through you range of sight? I wen't out today to a store like to Wal-mart planning to buy shoes and Batteries, but as I was heading for the check out I see a rack of shirts, one of which was a SG shirt I didn't have. I picked it up and headed for the counter. There was nothin to think about. If i didnt have enough money for the shoes, too bad. I realize this could be dangerous, but I don't see an end to this obsession. Can anyone else ralate to this? - - Jason 'Keep your chin up and your head down' - the ultimate paradox ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: This is for the Chris hootchies :-) I recently emailed Morat (Kerrang journalist who interviewd Chris in Oz) and asked if he had any info on the tattoo. (Obsessed, moi?)I didn't really expect him to reply but he did - and he also offered to send me more Chris info. Morat, you are a prince among men :-) >Deb. > > Sorry, it's taken so long to get back to you, but I've been >away/drunk/lazy (delete as appropriate). Anyway, as far as I can remember >(it was late and much drinking had taken place) Chris said he designed the >tattoo himself and it was something to do with the Chinese horoscope. >Wherever it came from he definitely said it was his lovely wife's date of >birth and it's definitely his first tattoo. > Glad you liked the interview and I hope that sort of answers your >questions. There were a bunch of other questions from the full interview, >such as how he ended up writing lyrics for Flotsam and Jetsam (dodgy Bay >Area thrash band). Let me know if you're interested and I'll dig them out. >Please allow at least one month for drunken incompetence. See ya. > >M=F6RAT ------------------------------ From: "McMahon Potvin" Subject: ROLE MODELS????? ROLE MODELS???? Am i the only one out there that thinks that musicians should make music, not try to raise everybodys' kids? Just let them be, and ask yourself: do i need a role model? why?....... Anyway, I promissed to all that i would post my review of SOUNDGARDENs' concert at Lollapalooza 96 in Quebec city last summer.... Yes, i know i'm way late... but i just got here. Trust me, if i would have found this cool place earlier, you guys would have had a review the next day.... Here goes..... They played a set that lasted about 70 minutes or so... They played late in the evening, just before Metallica closed the day... At that time, there was about 30000 fans goin' wild.....it was crazy.... Anyway, what really surprised me was the fact that they didn't play a whole lot of songs from Down on the Upside, leaving way to songs from Ultramega-OK and Louder than Love.....which was way cool.... Chris also did a solo version of BLACK HOLE SUN which was also pretty cool... Of course, they also played classics like SPOONMAN, JESUS CHRIST POSE... Before they started, the sky really got clouded and it was bound to start raining, which prompted Chris to say hi to the croud this way: "This weather makes us feel right at home... even though we're miles away..." Anyway, BEN started the show being as pissed as i ever saw someone being pissed. I'm not sure what happened, but we weren't gettin' any bass for about the first 10 minutes of the show... and Ben realised it soon enough!!! He just threw his bass in the back of stage, as he was visibly VERY mad at some technicians... Moments later, everything was in order and "the show went on".... but the damage was done... Ben looked real pissed throughout the whole set... you know, like he just didn't want to be there... But that's not what i want you guys to remember.....just remember it was the best damn show i had seen in quite some time!!!! As ya'll probably noticed, i don't write reviews everyday... so sorry if it's not very detailed and complete... if you have any questions, e-mail me. As Rachel knows, i really like gettin' mail..... See you guys later!!!! ....God knows i'm gone....and i just want you to come on down......come on down....-Mad Season (yeah, i know its not a Soundgarden lyric... variety never hurt anybody....) Marc ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Definitively Maybe Is there a definitive Soundgarden song? Not for me, there isn't. I haven't even got an all time *favourite* Sg song - they change all the time. That's what I love about Soundgarden. They are virtually impossible to label. When people ask me, 'So what are they like then?' I either say (lamely) "they rock!" or I lend 'em a tape! Of course I can't know for sure, but I can't imagine the band wanting to be linked to one song. Especially BHS :-) As for JCP, Chris once said he he considered it to be completely atypical of Soundgarden. Ben says it's fast funk! So there you go :-) Incidentally, is any one else totally in love with Soundgarden's version of Thank You Falletin Me Be Mice Elf? I can't stop playing it. It's everything rock should be (*now* who's talking 'definitive', Deb? ;-)- great guitar, grinding rhythym, amazing vocals. And every great rock song should include lyrics about the devil and making lurrrrrve! The only thing wrong with it is Soundgarden didn't write it! UKDeb ------------------------------ From: Anders B-N Nergaard Subject: Definitive Soundgarden My opinion of some definitive SG-things: Best all-round song(s): BIMH/BHS Best guitar-riff: Tie between JCP and Mood for trouble Best guitarsolo: Tighter & tighter Best bass-riff: Hiro: Entering Ben: BIMH Best drumplay or whatever: Like suicide Best vocals: 4th of July Best lyrics: The day I tried to live Best use of an "unusual" instrument: Fresh Tendrils (Natasha Shneider on clavinet) Coolest cover: SU Funniest song: 665 reversed Feel free to flame me and come with different categories and "winners". Andy "Fill your head with crazy sounds" ------------------------------ From: "Farsi" Subject: Credits It's also been a issue that I've thought about, but I think when the song say that Lyric:Cornell means that the song's lyrics is written by Chris not that it's also sang by Chris. I think this is logical. But I'm still not sure about the music bit. By the way tonight I just bought a bootleg from SG called The Garden Grows, it's double CD it kicks ass. Farsi - -And I'm lost, behind - -The words I'll never find - -And I'm left behind ------------------------------ From: "Farsi" Subject: Re: Hidden Message Pencapchew wrote: >a while ago, SOMEONE on the list posted how they had used their computer to >play 665->667 backwards and discovered a secret 'satanic' message. ...... >so who posted about this originally? and how exactly did u do it again in >case I decide to listen to it someday.. I didn't post the original message but I went and tried it immediately, I didn't make about anything from the backward recording but it does sound stannic but the song does sound stannic anyway. About how to do this, if you have a Creative Sound Blaster (original) with the software installed it's going to be easy, using the Wave Studio, this isn't the place to explain this if you want more info email me. Farsi - -And I'm lost, behind - -The words I'll never find - -And I'm left behind - -As seasons roll on by --Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: 665->667 HIDDEN MESSAGE If I'm not mistaken, the backward version can be found on the website. Geoff ------------------------------ From: Fiona Thiessen Subject: Re: Whilst backstage at Ben Harper, I met the man who helped bring out SG to Australia, he's the guy who takes them to great places to crazy stuff, anyway maybe you guys already know this but he took SG base jumping. He said Matt was like "gimme, gimme, gimmme" in regards to doing adrenalin pumping stuff, which was great to hear b/c i too am an adrenalin freak :) I asked him whether Ben's occasional stage craziness was the true him. he just looked at me and said "yeah, he's nuts, but an excellent musician" ..how true!! I also asked about Chris's tattoo, he said "yeah, very secretive. Chris doesn't talk much but i know it was his own design" Sorry to anyone who finds this extremely boring and very non-music related but I just had to get it out!! fiona ------------------------------ From: #1 Brat Subject: !!!Hey All! Great To Be Back!!!!! hey everybody --- first off i wanna know... Sg was on 'Love Line'? no, it can't be! is this for real... somebody out there must know... >what does "Music: Shepherd; Lyrics: Cornell" mean exactly? well, it just means that Ben wrote the music & Chris wrote the lyrics. and if someone else sang the song or had vocals on it, that would be indicated somewhere. "lyrics" means that they wrote them, not that they sang. >not one day goes by that i don't listen to Sg incessantly. Anyone >else goin' through this? yep, me. i listen to Sg everyday, mostly stuff off DOTU or SU. i don't think i could get thru the day w/out listening to "Ty Cobb" in the morning before going to school. ;-) well i really want to write more, i've got *LOTS* to say but i've got a pretty bad headache right now, so... more later. :-) ciao... ~Lorraine "so i drink in the shadows of an evening sky....." ------------------------------ From: ooyesiku@brynmawr.edu (Olukemi Oyesiku) Subject: reply to soundagrden and nuttin else Responding to KAISERVRBL@aol.com Hey, I am a new subscriber. I have been listening to Soundagden only since SU. However, I am now a great fan of Soundagrden and think they are the best band. Lately, for the pat few months I have been listening to SG everyday also. I do not go one day without hearing SG or Temple of the Dog. I cannot get enough of Chris' voice. I listen to Alice in Chains often too but not as often and as concentrated as I listening to SG. I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with it. I used to think there wa something wrong with it and I thought I was obsessed. But, I realized that SG just kicks serious ass with Chris' and the rest of the bands musical talents. I am especially fond of Chris' voice because he sounds like he is not even trying. Alot of other bands SOUND like they try to hard and you can hear it because it is so obvious. Every lyric uttered from that man's vocal cords, through his mouth and from his lips sound like the words themselves. There is so much feeling in his voice it is amazing!! I am blown away everytime!!! Oh, and, I like your e-mail address, Kaiser Soze: Verbal Kint, very cool!! I love that movie!! ------------------------------ From: SUSAN@crystl.ucsb.edu Hi there sommspeople, I've been lurking around this webpage for awhile and only now do I have the courage to brave the flamefest in search of knowledge. I have a few questions which I hope some of you guys can answer. Please don't thrash me too hard if the answers are available somewhere on Seth's page...you gotta admit, there's a huge amount of info there and I haven't been able to look at it all in the 6 months or so I've been checking it out. There has been a lot of discussion about the unusual time signatures of certain songs by all you drummers out there. What I want to know is, which member of the band do you think is responsible for coming up with rhythms such as 15/8 (limo wreck) and 9/8 (never the machine forever). I read somewhere that Matt is the only one who knows music theory and when presented with a song like NTMF, is pretty surprised. Lucky for us, Mr. Cameron is not fazed by such intricate rhythms. I was wondering if it was Kim who writes a lot of the strange time signature music, perhaps due to his Eastern heritage. 9/8 is a very common rhythm in the middle east, for example, but most "western" people are more accustomed to 3/4 and 4/4. Any opinions? Another hot topic on the list is Chris' voice. I know that cigarettes and booze take their toll, but here's a question for you trained singers out there. Is Chris shredding his vocal cords by making them emit that unearthly trumpet-like howl (which is...I guess I have to say its THE coolest sound I have ever heard)? Or is this a normal, stress-free sound for him? Even if he quit smoking today, are his vocal cords still toast in the future? As for the effects of smoking and drinking, I think a tough-love approach is called for. The other members of the band should obtain a Keith Richards record, or a Stones record that features Keith singing. Preferably one that has not been doctored up in the studio. Strap Chris into a chair, rig the Stones record to play in a constant loop, and make him listen to the thing for a whole damn day. Hey Chris... keep smoking and drinking, and your voice might be as good as Keith's someday!!! <<>>. I have some more questions, but I think you've heard enough from me today. ....and I sharpened my wits on a dead man's skull.... Susan L. susan@sbxray.ucsb.edu ------------------------------ From: ooyesiku@brynmawr.edu (Olukemi Oyesiku) Subject: Soundgarden/The Doors It was uncanny!! Has anyone ever seen the movie The Doors starring Val Kilmer? Well, let me tell you the lyrics and the things that went on in thaa movie reminded me so much of Soundgarden. The following are a few examples: - --in some of the songs Morrison mentions "snake" which is a very popular word for Chris!! - --there is a desert scene in the movie that reminds me of "Burden in My Hand" video. - --Jim is wearing black as Chris does but only for a few seconds. - --In "Burden" Chris sings "oh no, there she goes, out in the sunshine, sun is mine, sun is mine". In this desert scene Jim's girlfriend is dancing in the sun while he is following a naked indian into a red background. - --Jim mentions liar in his songs as does Chris You just have to rent this movie and tell me if I am wrong.For those who have seen it, What do you think? Has The Doors influenced Soundgarden or just Chris, or what? This is freaky if I am wrong!! ------------------------------ From: CORNELLSG@aol.com Subject: Re: No Subject even if chris stops smoking his vocal cords will be in bad condishon. he tore them once before i think. and i dont think somking or drinking will effect his singing. if u listen to the earlyer albums u can hear how he is straning his voice, and thats y if he keeps on screaming that hard when he sings ( not that i dont love the way he sings ) he will tare them again and before u know it he will not be able to sing. ------------------------------ From: CORNELLSG@aol.com Subject: Re: Vocals and Uncontrolable Spending yeah i can releate if i see somthing that has to do with SG i have to buy it , and i also hope i get to see SG live before Chris has another vocal prob. and cant sing anymore ( that would be the most horrible thing in the world ). ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 79] ***************************************