From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 27 Mar 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 01:19:04 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 27 Mar 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: you make me sick, I make music Re: A thread? About SG's music? Anyone? Re: Chris' ASCAP Listing Keep your head down! Re: Awwww Poor Baby GARDEN OF SOUND Audio bootlegs. Hello Sommsters... the singles/b-sides issue Into the Upside UNCOVERED RE: Keep your head down! KOZIK Re: A thread? About SG's music? Anyone? Re: SOMMS t-shirt Boot trading page is back I HAVE RETURNED! Re: Keep your head down! KCMU performance RE: KCMU performance RE:RE: Say Anything... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Jason S. Lewis" Subject: you make me sick, I make music > >>i have always wondered what this means exactly. "you make me >>hate i make music." > >i think it means the basically the same thing "you make me sick i >make music" does - it's chris' sarcastic side showing. i really think >it's very funny - and maybe he meant it to be, or maybe it really is >serious. you can take it either way - and *i* think he meant it to be >taken both ways. if you do take it seriously, it think he's directing it >at society and saying that his hatred and disgust inspire some of his >music, or that he uses music to help him escape his feelings of hate >and disgust, or escape the people who make him feel those things. On interview, Chris said (jokingly) that it was a humor contest between his "you make me sick, I make music" and Kim's "in one ear and out your mother" ------------------------------ From: "Jason S. Lewis" Subject: Re: A thread? About SG's music? Anyone? At 02:10 PM 3/26/97 -0600, you wrote: >Lori asked: >> >> What work of Hiro's (including songwriting, bass lines, etc.) do you >> think was most significant during the time he was with SG? >> >> His style is so different from Ben's, I'm wondering if any of you pre-BMF >> loyals have any ideas on this. As a bassist I'm curious. I really like >> a lot of the Screaming Life stuff. > >I think the music during Hiro's time was much more heavy, almost droning >(as my husband has described it). There is a definite "dirge-like" >quality to alot of the Hiro stuff. I'm not saying that's bad - I love >this old stuff. But the feel is alot different than SG music now. I >agree with whoever said all his work is significant, especially because >the sound and feel are so different. I really think Ben's style has been >part of what has made the band so popular in recent years. Apparently >his sound is more marketable, and that's not bad either since I think >their stuff just gets better and better. Since I'm not a musician I >can't really compare them musically, this is just what I think. > >Kathie > IMO, the greatest mark left by Hiro was the song "I Awake". His songs had the dark sound coupled with chris's vocals which made for a great combo. In particular, "I Awake"(track #8 from Louder than Love) is probobly the song that gets the most play out of my regular SG rotation. The lyrics, which could just have easily been a love poem, go strangely well with the dark riffs. Id urge you to give this song another listen if you've been skipping it. Anyone else like this song? Another is the song right after it "No wrong No right" (track #9 from Louder than Love) I love matt's intro solo, and I love how chris carries the word "dead" for the length he does over from the first verse to the chorus. This is another good song wrtten by Hiro, not one you'd want ot skip when browsing your Louder than Love CD. I might as well say that I just picked up the Burden single and I must say thay "she's a politician" is some five star work (GREAT song). ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: Chris' ASCAP Listing vasant wrote: > Hey everybody. I was just looking through Chris' registered songs on the ASCAP web site, and I found this song I've never heard of before. It's called "SINGLES CUES." Anybody know where it's from or what it is? < Actually, i think this may be referring to those little song snippets they played inbetween scenes. ya know, like when steve would be thinking to himself? i think that that could be it, but i may be wrong. that's what it seems like to me. mind riot ____ we see you cry turn your head then we slap your face we see you try see you fail some things never change... ------------------------------ From: Toni M Roark Subject: Keep your head down! Hello all, I finally played the Launch CD I had with SG on it yesterday. And Chris was talking about stealing Beatle albums and my first reaction was he shouldn't say stuff like that someone might think that is a cool thing to do and steal a CD or something. Than I thought to myself. Are rock stars(for lack of a better word) role models?? Does anyone feel that Kim, Chris ,Matt or Ben are role models for them either as a musician or in a personal way? If they are.... how so??? and if they aren't does anyone think they should or shouldn't be? I really don't think most musicians care to be anyone's role model. When I was younger I loved Keith Richard but I never wanted to emulate him in any way. Well, maybe once or twice at a party I might of tried to get as toasted as he use to be. I admire the men in Soundgarden for their talent. Since I have no musical talent at all I can't be as eloquent as Blind dog's comments about Matt's drumming. BUTT I also admire i.e. Kim as a person. I like his sense of humor and his habit of saying what he thinks even if it is not necessarily the "right" thing to say or what someone might want to hear. And Matt's good judgement to read Somms or as it has come to be called, Unholy War mailing list. toni ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Awwww Poor Baby On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: > yep, if this isn't apple, then shroom isn't running around seattle > with a camera around her neck dodging police and ankle biting poms in > a valiant attempt to snap pics of chris in the shower through the > bathroom window. = ) well, having just come back from lunch with the Hootchie patrol, i can tell you that this is not at all the scope and range of shroom's activities. ;-> running around seattle buying everything with the word 'soundgarden' on it, forcing seth to watch 'singles' (hey, he'd never seen it! could you believe it! ), and rescuing dogs from the middle of aurora ave., maybe.... cool charles peterson posters of sg available at subpop, $15. go visit the web site. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: SOMMStress@aol.com Subject: GARDEN OF SOUND HEY IM 13 AND A BIG FAN OF THE GARDEN . THEY ARE THE BEST BAND EVER. I WENT TO THEIR CONCERT LAST NOVEMBER IN MICHIGAN AND IT WAS THE BEST CONCERT I HAVE EVER SEEN. CORNELL'S VOICE WAS PERFECT EVENTHOUGH THE WEEKEND BE4 HE WAS SICK. I PERSONALLY LIKE BEYOND THE WHEEL, GIRL U WANT ( ORIGINALLY DEVO) , 4TH OF JULY, DEMO VERSION OF F.O.B.D ( FELL ON BLACK DAYS), AND JESUS CHRIST POSE BEST OF ALL THEIR SONGS ( EVENTHOUGH THEY ALLL ROCK). WELL ROCK ON ALL SOUNDGARDEN FANS AND IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO SEE THEM LIVE DO IT!!!! BELIEVE ME YOU WONT REGRET IT!! $oMm$trEs$ ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Audio bootlegs. I have NO audio bootlegs alright? Somebody please help me out. I am so pathetic. I've been searching high and low for boots and I don't want to buy. I have seen the prices for some and it took me a while to breathe consistently again afterwards. :) I only want SG and I have nothing by any other bands. I have all of their standard releases, but I want the b-sides and rarities. Please! I need something fresh that I've never heard before by them! I need something to hold me over until they release their next album. All of you are just as obsessed as me so you KNOW that it is a NEED! :) I've got to have something. Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty please with a cherry on top?? Help me get started. :) May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: java4u@sos.net Subject: Hello Sommsters... Hello Everyone! I love this list so much, whenever I want to check up on new SG info I click into the post and it automatically puts a smile on my face. But lately my smile has turned to a frown all it seems we are doing is putting people down. And even flaming people for reasons that don't even seem relevant. I've even noticed people are unsigning from the list because of all these cold wars. Which is very disappointing to me considering they and we are all here for SG. We support the band and love them. I believe that alot of people are being burned for their opinions and I feel that is wrong. The Somms list is a good source of info for sg and people to send in ideas and opinions. Lately it doesn't seem even pointless to mail in threads or ideas, in fear that we will be flamed. And if you disagree with someone, you can send it to the list if you want for everyone to read, but don't you think if you want to bitch someone out you should do it privately. Hope I didn't burst anyone's bubble. And I hope that everyone that plans on flaming me thinks about it before they do so, for it's only an opinion. Since this is a SG list so I think this post is in dire need of related info! On to much better things has anyone heard anything new on when SG are getting back in the studio to put together there new album. As long as they keep them coming I'll be happy! Thanx, Rachel Peace, Love Empathy P.S. Caryn cool web pages, read through them this weekend. Really like the PJ one! I'll write you later about it! I'm sure I could be a great source of info! ------------------------------ From: Larry Grover Subject: the singles/b-sides issue I read an interview with Chris Cornell recently (don't ask me where or which one) in which he said that they really don't like the idea of releasing import singles with extra b-sides. He said that they do not consider themselves a singles band anyway, but that the European label insists on this from its artists and says that it is necessary for its marketing. Jen Grover ------------------------------ From: Tess444 Subject: Into the Upside Hi everyone :) I read somewhere yesterday that in the Into the Upside interview with Eleven, they guys talk about some of the songs from DOTU. On my copy of ITU (which is copied of TV) they don't even mention the songs. They perform Pretty Noose in the studio and talk about chris' voice, song ideas, Matt's drumming etc. But nothing about songs... Is it just me or was I lied too? (the FULL AND UNEDITED SOUNDGARDEN INTERVIEW, TODAY AT 4) Tessa. ------------------------------ From: Cornell32@aol.com Subject: UNCOVERED Hey kids! Guess what? I know you were all hangin on the edge of your seat, wondering WHO on Earth was the lucky man/woman/hermaphrodite to win my lovely NAME THAT SG TUNE contest. Well, my friends and enemas, we have ourselves a weiner: SPOONMAN1! Yes, it's Guitarist-2001 (whatever the fuck that means), and yes, 42 is the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything! Congrats, Mr. 2001! Send me your address and your prize selection and I'll get that out to you ASAP, my brotha! "Naked and cold, mumbling and crying knowing everything's been discovered..." Leslie ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: RE: Keep your head down! >Toni wrote: Are rock stars(for lack of a better word) role models?? Does anyone feel that Kim, Chris ,Matt or Ben are role models for them either as a musician or in a personal way? If they are.... how so??? and if they aren't does anyone think they should or shouldn't be?> IMO, in a musical way, "rock stars" should be an inspiration rather than a role model to anyone. Music is an art form, and should be treated as such. Inspiration from music (or musicians) that you love should breed creativity in yourself, not imitation. Karaoke, anyone? But as far as personally goes, NO, NO, NO! I hate to generalise so much, but unfortunately, often with younger people, we try to emulate people in bands or on tv, etc, when we're forgetting the point: they're really only people at the end of the day, just like you or I. I'm sure that all the members of SG (and any other band) have bad days, fuck up sometimes and make mistakes and get hurt. Just like me. Just like anyone else. And especially with SG, they seem to be just fairly regular guys, and would like to be treated as such by everyone. The only thing that sets them apart from the norm is that they have better jobs than a lot of us do! georgia ------------------------------ From: "Anna Mehrer" Subject: KOZIK I, too, received the excellent quality Soundgarden poster (Mercer Arena). $10--woohoo! I was very impressed with how Tilt had placed such care in shipping the poster as well. I also ordered a Kyuss poster for $10 ("Dahlia" or something like that) which also exhibits beautiful and vibrant colors of the lithos. (Beware that there is a major German grammatical mistake on the Kyuss/Melvins poster!) I was slightly bummed about the cost of getting the SG poster framed-- dry mount, matted, glass and ready-made frame--$80!!!! Maybe I was ripped off. Who knows. But the framed poster sure looks impressive. Ahhh, an investment to protect the beloved work of art. Anyway, I highly recommend ordering from Tilt. They have a website which was originally mentioned in one of Caryn's posts, I believe: http://tiltpix.com/tilt/dist Well, I'm off to order more before the folks in San Fran run out of supplies! - --Anna ------------------------------ From: Kathie and David Subject: Re: A thread? About SG's music? Anyone? Lori asked: > > What work of Hiro's (including songwriting, bass lines, etc.) do you > think was most significant during the time he was with SG? > > His style is so different from Ben's, I'm wondering if any of you pre-BMF > loyals have any ideas on this. As a bassist I'm curious. I really like > a lot of the Screaming Life stuff. I think the music during Hiro's time was much more heavy, almost droning (as my husband has described it). There is a definite "dirge-like" quality to alot of the Hiro stuff. I'm not saying that's bad - I love this old stuff. But the feel is alot different than SG music now. I agree with whoever said all his work is significant, especially because the sound and feel are so different. I really think Ben's style has been part of what has made the band so popular in recent years. Apparently his sound is more marketable, and that's not bad either since I think their stuff just gets better and better. Since I'm not a musician I can't really compare them musically, this is just what I think. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Fiona Thiessen Subject: Re: SOMMS t-shirt Like someone else on this list, I would love to know about the SOMMS t-shirt (w/the "posting w/my good eye closed" on it). Fiona :) ------------------------------ From: "Jason Thompson" Subject: Boot trading page is back The trading page is back up. Information about the tape tree should be there as soon as I here from Steve. Later, J http://members.tripod.com/~Sgrdn/index.html ****************************************************** You did one thing wrong, you woke up You looked better before... ..Don't look at me I'm ugly in the morning - M. Patton ------------------------------ From: LoudLoveCC@aol.com Subject: I HAVE RETURNED! Boy, guys! You'll never guess the reason I've been gone so long (uh, like ya even care!)!!!! Well, here goes.... Well, b/c I've been so lucky as to have never seen a SG concert, I decided to go to Seattle and make a plea for a SOMMS fest, just for us SOMMSters and no one else, but like.... *really* soon! I know they just finished touring but I thought maybe I'd start begging now... weeeeellll, I, the sneaky sleuth that I am, found my way to the Cornell's door. Where I was greeted by a bunch of dogs. Well, I love dogs! And these dogs loved me, I played w/ them for awhile, and then I rang the doorbell. Well nobody answered, so I started to leave... depressed as I was. Then I heard noise coming from inside, so I went around and looked through a lower level window. You'll never guess what I saw! Cancera the witch and Chris, Susan and Eddie! But, Susan and Eddie weren't very happy! They were yelling and telling Chris no... I listened closer.... "Chris!" hissed Cancera. "You can never smoke your Camels again! That is unless you give me your voice! Do not listen to these imbecils! You NEED the ciggarettes, you WANT the ciggarettes, you--" "Alright! Alright! You can have my voice... I need those Camels.... to hell w/ my singing career! Take my voice, Cancera." sighed Chris, frustrated. "No, honey no! You don't need to smoke! You can do w/o it! Please!" cried Susan, terrified. "Listen to her! You can be the BETTER MAN, and ignore this witch!" said Eddie. "Silence, you fools!" cried Cancera. "Chrisssss, are you ready?" "I-I-I gue---" "Good! Then sing!" Chris opened his mouth and sang.... "Mooooootheeeeeeeeerrrr wwwhhhooooo'sssss your maaaaaaaaan? Is he doooooooing aaalllllllllll heeeeeee caaaaaaaaaaan?" Chris kept singing. Cancera cried, "Siiinnng to meeee! Siiinnng to meee, Chrrriiissss! Siiinnnng, my angel of music (whoops wrong line!)!" And as she said this she started pulling his voice away from him.... now, hell! I couldn't just stand there and watch this happen! What did I do? Well, dammit, I went crashing through that window, right on top of Cancera the witch. Well, then the spell was broken, and she shriveled up into the shape of a blackened lung. Blech. We threw her out, and the four of us celebrated over dinner! They were all so happy, that they didn't want me to go home! But, of course, I said I couldn't stay, and thanked them for their hospitality. Then, I went home! Well, guess what! In all the confusion I never took any pictures, nor got any autographs; I didn't even ask about the SOMMS fest! Silly me! I'm sooooo forgetful.... ;-) Oh, and if you don't believe that one, I suppose I could lie and tell you how I was really sick w/ mono and haven't gone online in a looooong time! Ha, like you'd believe that one! One more thing guys! Didn't I invent this word? SOUNDGARDELICIOUS!!!!!!! I'm so proud that people have started using this! Ha! I'm famous! Wellll... it IS a cool word, isn't it? "Remember I love you, love you" love, lissa aka the one who used to be MIA =) ps. the reason for my silly little story, is b/c well, I've never minded smokers or smoking. I even let my friends smoke in the car, but, eh... if it's gonna interfere w/ THE MAN'S voice, then hell! I sure hope he cuts down! You guys have gotten me worried! ------------------------------ From: Candy Subject: Re: Keep your head down! > Are rock stars(for lack of a better word) role models?? Does anyone feel that Kim, > Chris ,Matt or Ben are role models for them either as a musician or in a > personal way? If they are.... how so??? and if they aren't does anyone > think they should or shouldn't be? I really don't think most musicians care > to be anyone's role model. No, I don't consider them to be role models, nor do I think they should try to be. BUTT that doesn't mean that it makes no difference to me what kind of people they are. Maybe I should only care about the music in spite of their beliefs or personal behavior. However, I think I would find it difficult to remain a fan if I found out that any of the members of Soundgarden were Neo-Nazis or wife beaters, for instance. I don't expect them to be god-like, perfect people. I suppose though, that I do want to feel that they are basically decent people. It would be hard for me to continue to invest so much of my time and money in a band that I think are a bunch of jerks. ------------------------------ From: Sgardengrl@aol.com Subject: KCMU performance I was wondering if anyone could help me. I have a video boot from soundgarden's KCMU performance. I wanted to find out the year of it and what songs they played. The video that I have has two songs. When each song starts it says soundgarden in white. I can't tell what either of the songs are. In the first song it doesn't say KCMU anywhere so maybe it isn't part of the same performance. The second song has a huge KCMU sign behind them and I don't think that the drummer is Matt. It is probably Scott. I was just wondering if anyone has ever heard of this or knows what it is. Thanks, Lisa ------------------------------ From: "Jamal O. Johnson" Subject: RE: KCMU performance >The second song has a huge KCMU sign behind them and I >don't think that the drummer is Matt. It is probably Scott. Forgive my Ignorance, but who the hell is Scott??? " The Wreck is going Down....Get out before you Drown." - ---------- From: Sgardengrl@aol.com[SMTP:Sgardengrl@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 1997 5:56 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: KCMU performance I was wondering if anyone could help me. I have a video boot from soundgarden's KCMU performance. I wanted to find out the year of it and what songs they played. The video that I have has two songs. When each song starts it says soundgarden in white. I can't tell what either of the songs are. In the first song it doesn't say KCMU anywhere so maybe it isn't part of the same performance. I was just wondering if anyone has ever heard of this or knows what it is. Thanks, Lisa ------------------------------ From: Wyn Subject: RE:RE: Say Anything... Well you may be wondering what what this may be about since I think the post I 'm writing in reply to was made I think on the 17/3/97 actually it was made by me in reply to a post by Brydon I can remember exactly. Well just to clarify even more it was in reference to say anything.. the movie. Which happened to have Soundgarden on the soudtrack but it wasn't in the discography. I ended up finding the cd soundtrack yesterday. I hadn't been looking for it but was just flicking through the Sountrack section and saw it there and the tracks are as follows: Say Anything.. All for Love - Nancy wilson cult of personality- Living colour One big rush- joe satriani You want it -cheap trick Taste the pain- chilli peppers In your eyes -peter gabriel Stripped -depeche mode Shakin to the beat -fishbone Within your reach -the replacements Keeping the dream alive -Freiheit Well as you can see SG don't make an appearance but as I have heard they do in the movie (i havn't seen it). I wont say anymore b/c my lecture started 10 minutes ago, BYE. Bronwyn ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 76] ***************************************